Donald Trump wins 2016 US presidential election

I don't know do you know about this page where they collecting money for mobilization at all 50 state Capitols on December 19 to try to stop the fascism and bigotry of Donald Trump.

I presume that this is just small organization for collecting money among others big players, but I found this very interesting because of the fact that STS usually is great in organizing things.

In 17 days they collect 47,756 dollars and they already have enough to make it happen.

On this page people can see information for each state and how to apply to event.

They need funds to:
(1) Assemble an army of organizers to coordinate state capitol protests, provide trainings, and support volunteers across the country.
(2) Create a state-of-the-art website and viral social media content to spread the word to millions of people.
(3) Support the state capitol protests with signs, shirts, and other visuals that will tell the media and the American public that this is about defending democracy.
(4) Facilitate transportation to the protests and provide communications support to maximize media coverage.

They also say on the end say:
These actions will be peaceful, patriotic, nonviolent, and family-friendly. Everyone taking part must agree to the following terms of participation. By choosing to attend this event, you are acknowledging the risks involved, and you are committing to participate non-violently and in accordance with the law, and to work to de-escalate confrontations with Trump supporters or others. You agree (i) not to engage in any act of violence or violation of any applicable law and (ii) to obey the orders of authorized event marshals and law enforcement authorities.
 
Hi Dakota, It looks like the same format Soros uses. If he isn't behind it, or his associates then its being copied well. Its even being called "Democracy Spring".

Democracy Spring is a 501(c)(4) organization. Donations are not deductible as charitable contributions for Federal income tax purposes.

In my occasional encounters with a few people, I see this fear of a Trump presidency and the beliefs the MSM has pounded into them for the entire election (and post election). So many people are strongly believing in lies propagated by the negative propaganda and they seem to be going a bit nuts. Its a interesting phenomenon and disturbing. I wonder what has made them particularly susceptible to being manipulated in this way. Is it, they have a over-all pattern of living in lies in their daily life from various sources, religion etc. This makes them more susceptible to being manipulated like this. Plus the lack of being informed as to how the MSM works and whose behind it. There seems to be a serious lack of discernment, an inability to recognize truth and even common sense.

:shock:
 
OK, I am having some cognitive dissonance. I could use some input...

Recap -
"who's behind the Podesta e-mail leaks that are making Hillary Clinton look very bad?
A: Clinton insider.
A: Revenge for personal slights.
A: Dementia.
Q: (Joe) …They're assuming that she's going to be okay to be president with dementia?
A: No. Part of reason to bring her down."

So I am wondering:
Was this attempt to "bring her down" merely a 3D STS insider play or was it 4D STS inspired and planned?

Given Hillary's dementia,

A. Is Trump a wildcard outsider who they will try to turn to the dark side?
B. Was Trump winning the plan all along once Hillary’s dementia became an issue?

In other words, are we being 'played' again? Or are there unforeseen and unplanned things happening here?
Was the Russian Hack meme planned earlier in process or did they just make it up on the fly?
Don’t forget about time travel and how that plays in.

“Q: (Joe) Did they give her the popular vote in an attempt to secure a win for her?
A: They are trying to foment revolution.”

Could this mean they were playing the Trump winning situation all along?

“(Chu) Was this a real miscalculation?
A: Indeed!
Q: (Chu) They really did want Hillary?
A: Yes”

This is what I don’t get: 'They' (who exactly?) wanted Hillary BUT 'they' "took her down"?

So was the miscalculation Hillary’s dementia or was it the landslide victory for Trump?

“(Joe) What are the chances of success of fomenting a revolution on this Hillary business?
A: Fair, but will likely fizzle.”
“Plus the drivers of 4D STS agency to establish total control before changes of a cosmic nature.”

Drivers of 4D STS agency: very interesting term. I think the agency is the 3D “human” face of 4D STS but the drivers of this agency could be the lizzies or even higher up? I wonder just how high up the food chain this reference goes? Sounds to me like upper levels of 4D STS itself and not the 3D players. Maybe even Orion STS? If Orion STS are getting involved, it must be late in the game.

I realize I am not being too clear here and am wandering around a bit. It just feels like some conflicting information - puzzle pieces that don't quite fit.

Ideas?
 
In regards to Hillary's "dementia", I sense there is a lot more going on there? If you get a chance, check out the photo in this link that was Posted earlier, of Hillary sitting in the backseat of a SUV and the striking "deer-in-headlights" expression on her face, as they were arriving for a private party that she was hosting. She looks a little paranoid in that photo and then - only gave a short speech before the dinner. But then again, these are individuals who invested $Millions into her campaign and she lost! Mentally, she's probably incoherent most of the time and the only way to control her, is heavy sedation? Her brief appearances in public are exactly that - brief.

Given her behavior prior to the election, and VP Biden and Obama campaigning in her place, she might have suffered a complete melt down? When the election was called in Trump's favor - she didn't even show up to be with her campaign staff and volunteers but sent Podesta out in her place. I'm under the impression, her handlers can no longer control her and they realized that "just before" the election? But never had a Plan B - so after the fact - they have organized demonstrations against Trump and trying to demote him in every way possible, hoping to slip in another Democrat, to take her place? At the same time, they are blaming the Russians, so they can stir up more chaos and blame Trump.

My biggest concern is that they will nullify Trump in some way and slip in Joe Biden? Biden has made some waves lately that he might run for 2020?
Publically, Biden has played the class clown, in many incidences but I feel that's very deceiving. He wields a lot of power, behind the scenes, especially in the military arena. While O is out playing golf, Biden has been behind closed doors. When Biden visits the Middle East, things always escalate after he leaves. Like when he made a visit to Turkey and two days later, Erdogan and his military were crossing the border into Syria. Biden might be VP but I often get the impression, he's the main one calling the shots and O and Hillary were only window dressing? For me, Hillary is a non-issue at this point. I'm more concerned on who they might replace her with? As for Trump, I see him as the "lesser evil" and I willing to give him a chance in reversing the damage in this Country.

Hillary Clinton hosted a holiday party for her millionaire donors in New York (Photos)
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4039350/Hillary-Clinton-arrives-holiday-party-New-York-s-famed-Plaza-Hotel.html
 
In regards to whether "they" wanted Trump, I think this excerpt expresses that.
Session161112 said:
Q: (Pierre) Something that was bugging me during this election was the flip-flopping of this FBI guy Comey. He reopened the already closed case eleven days before the election, then two days before the election he said there was nothing to indict and it was closed again. What is the main cause of this flip-flopping in the FBI?

A: Pressure within the agency.

Q: (L) So in other words, it was actually what we thought at a certain shallow level of analysis: he was under pressure to reopen, so he did. Then he came under even greater pressure to close?

A: Yes

Q: (L) So sometimes, things are a little simple.

(Pierre) It's not monolithic. There are factions.

(L) Yes.

(Niall) What could have happened was similar to the leaks about Hillary's nomination for the Democratic party. An insider could have revealed these FBI docs and left the higher ups to...

A: Yes
It's not monolithic; there is a power struggle going on between the "schizoidal psychopath" faction and the "imperial pride" faction (and perhaps others). The difference between faction A and faction B is that the neoliberals in faction A believe they can legislate reality from a solipsistic bubble, while faction B understands that there is a fundamental reality out there which must be carefully directed to serve your own interests. The neoliberals have been bouncing superfluous words off of their nihilistic echo chamber for so long that their perspective has contracted into complete subjectivity and their whole world order is about to implode. I think some of them are so far gone that they think that if gravity disproportionately discriminates against fat people, they will issue a petition asking the scientific establishment to somehow mathematically remove gravity from their theories so that their twisted conception of equality of outcome can be preserved. Gravity then becomes a "fake news" item, and everyone who wishes to belong to their society must fervently denounce gravity and pretend they don't see it until they become true believers themselves. It is complete destruction of consciousness, and I think 4D must be behind it. It seems a pretty sure way into "soul smashing," and it would appear to be a delectable treat to feast on the energy released when a soul shatters. It's all part of the overall plan to create total chaos and prepare the ground for the 4D STS harvest.

Trump really does want to make America great again, but his definition of great and ours may differ. Trump wants to create an America that makes things again, with a stable law and order, and military might that is prominently displayed but seldom exercised. He does not believe he can legislate the world from a vapid philosophical perch, but he believes he can make deals and America can win, by becoming the biggest, baddest business around that will undercut and outmaneuver all of the competition and dominate the marketplace. While this is a step back from what Hillary would do and is better for Americans than what exists now, it is really just a kinder gentler form of American Exceptionalism that relies on persuasion rather than force. In Donald Trump's world, I don't think there is any mission for America or ideological purpose other than making money. America's consumerist, narcissistic hollowness will remain, and will even be encouraged a bit by his leadership. Whatever revitalization he is able to do will hit a wall unless another aim comes into play and builds on the momentum that he initiated. Furthermore, if he is serious about this Iran thing, he can still be made to serve within the aims of the broader 4D STS agenda. According to the Cassiopaeans, this constant meddling in the middle east to create some kind of biblical war which establishes Greater Israel and the new "Kingdom of Heaven" is actually cosmic COINTELPRO to propagandize the west into eliminating certain bloodlines which have a greater propensity to resist 4D STS domination. While Hillary would've been more controllable and a safer bet, both sides can be molded to accomplish the same objective...maybe. I find myself wanting to believe in Trump, especially after the Cassiopaeans gave him a sort of quasi-endorsement, but I just can't quite bring myself to do it, given how little insight I personally have into his true motivations and beliefs at the moment.

There is probably a small minority of people in the deep state who like Trump because he's not a total nutzoid, and quite a few more who see Hillary as damaged goods and want to distance themselves from her sinking ship. Then there are her diehard supporters trying to steal the election for her. I think the most easily observed fracture point in the factional infighting is flip-flopping Comey. It greatly amuses me to see him support this side for awhile, and then that side for awhile, I guess based on which group appears to be the strongest at the time. He is truly a stooge who is trying to be an influence peddler for his masters, and I would love to see Trump destroy the pathetic little traitor; what a worthless puppet. I think the miscalculation has to do with Trump potentially coming off the rails and doing something which reveals to the masses how this planet really functions. I don't think it will be a threat to 4D STS initially, but may move in that direction as more curious truthseekers are motivated by the drama to try and find out just what the heck is going on.
BHelmet said:
Drivers of 4D STS agency: very interesting term. I think the agency is the 3D “human” face of 4D STS but the drivers of this agency could be the lizzies or even higher up? I wonder just how high up the food chain this reference goes? Sounds to me like upper levels of 4D STS itself and not the 3D players. Maybe even Orion STS? If Orion STS are getting involved, it must be late in the game.
I was under the impression that there were always a handful of Orions around sitting on the board of directors for the "Earth Project" to make sure everything is proceeding as it should. Since they are the ruling class they are like CEOs, and don't do much individually besides give orders, whereas the Lizzies are tasked with the actual execution. However there was supposed to be a "fleet" arriving with the realm border when things get really interesting from those early sessions, so maybe there are more than there used to be. I think that they were just reminding us that the seemingly mindless psychopathic chaos going on everywhere in the world is being coordinated at some higher level of reality for a very precisely engineered purpose and that the field of politics is actually encompassed within the UFO field at some deep and semi-incomprehensible level.
 
Exclusive: As the Electoral College assembles, U.S. intelligence agencies are stepping up a campaign to delegitimize Donald Trump as a Russian stooge, raising concerns about a spy coup in America, reports Robert Parry.

A Spy Coup in America?
https://consortiumnews.com/2016/12/18/a-spy-coup-in-america/

Sunday December 18, 2016 - As Official Washington’s latest “group think” solidifies into certainty – that Russia used hacked Democratic emails to help elect Donald Trump – something entirely different may be afoot: a months-long effort by elements of the U.S. intelligence community to determine who becomes the next president.

I was told by a well-placed intelligence source some months ago that senior leaders of the Obama administration’s intelligence agencies – from the CIA to the FBI – were deeply concerned about either Hillary Clinton or Donald Trump ascending to the presidency. And, it’s true that intelligence officials often come to see themselves as the stewards of America’s fundamental interests, sometimes needing to protect the country from dangerous passions of the public or from inept or corrupt political leaders.

It was, after all, a senior FBI official, Mark Felt, who – as “Deep Throat” – guided The Washington Post’s Bob Woodward and Carl Bernstein in their Watergate investigation into the criminality of President Richard Nixon. And, I was told by former U.S. intelligence officers that they wanted to block President Jimmy Carter’s reelection in 1980 because they viewed him as ineffectual and thus not protecting American global interests.

It’s also true that intelligence community sources frequently plant stories in major mainstream publications that serve propaganda or political goals, including stories that can be misleading or entirely false.

What’s Going On? - So, what to make of what we have seen over the past several months when there have been a series of leaks and investigations that have damaged both Clinton and Trump — with some major disclosures coming, overtly and covertly, from the U.S. intelligence community led by CIA Director John Brennan and FBI Director James Comey?

Some sources of damaging disclosures remain mysterious. Clinton’s campaign was hobbled by leaked emails from the Democratic National Committee – showing it undercutting Clinton’s chief rival, Sen. Bernie Sanders – and from her campaign chairman John Podesta – exposing the content of her speeches to Wall Street banks that she had tried to hide from the voters and revealing the Clinton Foundation’s questionable contacts with foreign governments.

Clinton – already burdened with a reputation for secrecy and dishonesty – suffered from the drip, drip, drip of releases from WikiLeaks of the DNC and Podesta emails although it remains unclear who gave the emails to WikiLeaks. Still, the combination of the two email batches added to public suspicions about Clinton and reminded people why they didn’t trust her.

But the most crippling blow to Clinton came from FBI Director Comey in the last week of the campaign when he reopened and then re-closed the investigation into whether she broke the law with her sloppy handling of classified material in her State Department emails funneled through a home server.

Following Comey’s last-minute revival of the Clinton email controversy, her poll numbers fell far enough to enable Trump to grab three normally Democratic states – Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin – enough to give him a victory in the Electoral College.

Taking Down Trump - However, over the past few weeks, the U.S. intelligence community, led by CIA Director Brennan and seconded by FBI Director Comey, has tried to delegitimize Trump by using leaks to the mainstream U.S. news media to pin the release of the DNC and Podesta emails on Russia and claiming that Russian President Vladimir Putin was personally trying to put Trump into the White House.

This remarkable series of assessments from the CIA – now endorsed by the leadership of the FBI – come on the eve of the Electoral College members assembling to cast their formal votes to determine who becomes the new U.S. president. Although the Electoral College process is usually simply a formality, the Russian-hacking claims made by the U.S. intelligence community have raised the possibility that enough electors might withhold their votes from Trump to deny him the presidency.

If on Monday enough Trump electors decide to cast their votes for someone else – possibly another Republican – the presidential selection could go to the House of Representatives where, conceivably, the Republican-controlled chamber could choose someone other than Trump.

In other words, there is an arguable scenario in which the U.S. intelligence community first undercut Clinton and, secondly, Trump, seeking — however unlikely — to get someone installed in the White House considered more suitable to the CIA’s and the FBI’s views of what’s good for the country.

Who Did the Leaking? - At the center of this controversy is the question of who leaked or hacked the DNC and Podesta emails. The CIA has planted the story in The Washington Post, The New York Times and other mainstream outlets that it was Russia that hacked both the DNC and Podesta emails and slipped the material to WikiLeaks with the goal of assisting the Trump campaign. The suggestion is that Trump is Putin’s “puppet,” just as Hillary Clinton alleged during the third presidential debate.

But WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange has publicly denied that Russia was the source of the leaks and one of his associates, former British Ambassador to Uzbekistan Craig Murray, has suggested that the DNC leak came from a “disgruntled” Democrat upset with the DNC’s sandbagging of the Sanders campaign and that the Podesta leak came from the U.S. intelligence community.

Although Assange recently has sought to muzzle Murray’s public comments – out of apparent concern for protecting the identity of sources – Murray offered possibly his most expansive account of the sourcing during a podcast interview with Scott Horton on Dec. 13.

Murray, who became a whistleblower himself when he protested Britain’s tolerance of human rights abuses in Uzbekistan, explained that he consults with Assange and cooperates with WikiLeaks “without being a formal member of the structure.”

But he appears to have undertaken a mission for WikiLeaks to contact one of the sources (or a representative) during a Sept. 25 visit to Washington where he says he met with a person in a wooded area of American University. At the time, Murray was at American University participating in an awards ceremony for former CIA officer John Kiriakou who was being honored by a group of former Western intelligence officials, the Sam Adams Associates, named for the late Vietnam War-era CIA analyst and whistleblower Sam Adams.

Former CIA analyst Ray McGovern, a founder of the Sam Adams group, told me that Murray was “m-c-ing” the event but then slipped away, skipping a reception that followed the award ceremony.

Reading Between LInes - Though Murray has declined to say exactly what the meeting in the woods was about, he may have been passing along messages about ways to protect the source from possible retaliation, maybe even an extraction plan if the source was in some legal or physical danger.

Murray has disputed a report in London’s Daily Mail that he was receiving a batch of the leaked Democratic emails. “The material, I think, was already safely with WikiLeaks before I got there in September,” Murray said in the interview with Scott Horton. “I had a small role to play.”

Murray also suggested that the DNC leak and the Podesta leak came from two different sources, neither of them the Russian government.

The Podesta emails and the DNC emails are, of course, two separate things and we shouldn’t conclude that they both have the same source,” Murray said. “In both cases we’re talking of a leak, not a hack, in that the person who was responsible for getting that information out had legal access to that information.”

Reading between the lines of the interview, one could interpret Murray’s comments as suggesting that the DNC leak came from a Democratic source and that the Podesta leak came from someone inside the U.S. intelligence community, which may have been monitoring John Podesta’s emails because the Podesta Group, which he founded with his brother Tony, served as a registered “foreign agent” for Saudi Arabia.

“John Podesta was a paid lobbyist for the Saudi government,” Murray noted. “If the American security services were not watching the communications of the Saudi government’s paid lobbyist in Washington, then the American security services would not be doing their job. … His communications are going to be of interest to a great number of other security services as well.”

Leak by Americans - Scott Horton then asked, “Is it fair to say that you’re saying that the Podesta leak came from inside the intelligence services, NSA [the electronic spying National Security Agency] or another agency?” “I think what I said was certainly compatible with that kind of interpretation, yeah,” Murray responded. “In both cases they are leaks by Americans.”

In reference to the leak of the DNC emails, Murray noted that “Julian Assange took very close interest in the death of Seth Rich, the Democratic staff member” who had worked for the DNC on voter databases and was shot and killed on July 10 near his Washington, D.C., home.

Murray continued, “WikiLeaks offered a $20,000 reward for information leading to the capture of his killers. So, obviously there are suspicions there about what’s happening and things are somewhat murky. I’m not saying – don’t get me wrong – I’m not saying that he was the source of the [DNC] leaks. What I’m saying is that it’s probably not an unfair indication to draw that WikiLeaks believes that he may have been killed by someone who thought he was the source of the leaks … whether correctly or incorrectly.”

Though acknowledging that such killings can become grist for conspiracy buffs, Murray added: “But people do die over this sort of stuff. There were billions of dollars – literally billions of dollars – behind Hillary Clinton’s election campaign and those people have lost their money.

“You have also to remember that there’s a big financial interest – particularly in the armaments industry – in a bad American relationship with Russia and the worse the relationship with Russia is the larger contracts the armaments industry can expect especially in the most high-tech high-profit side of fighter jets and missiles and that kind of thing.

“And Trump has actually already indicated he’s looking to make savings on the defense budget particularly in things like fighter [jet] projects. So, there are people standing to lose billions of dollars and anybody who thinks in that situation bad things don’t happen to people is very naïve.”

An Intelligence Coup? - There’s another possibility in play here: that the U.S. intelligence community is felling a number of birds with one stone. If indeed U.S. intelligence bigwigs deemed both Clinton and Trump unfit to serve as President – albeit for different reasons – they could have become involved in leaking at least the Podesta emails to weaken Clinton’s campaign, setting the candidate up for the more severe blow from FBI Director Comey in the last week of the campaign.

Then, by blaming the leaks on Russian President Putin, the U.S. intelligence leadership could set the stage for Trump’s defeat in the Electoral College, opening the door to the elevation of a more traditional Republican. However, even if that unlikely event – defeating Trump in the Electoral College – proves impossible, Trump would at least be weakened as he enters the White House and thus might not be able to move very aggressively toward a détente with Russia.

Further, the Russia-bashing that is all the rage in the mainstream U.S. media will surely encourage the Congress to escalate the New Cold War, regardless of Trump’s desires, and thus ensure plenty more money for both the intelligence agencies and the military contractors.

Official Washington’s “group think” holding Russia responsible for the Clinton leaks does draw some logical support from the near certainty that Russian intelligence has sought to penetrate information sources around both Clinton and Trump. But the gap between the likely Russian hacking efforts and the question of who gave the email information to WikiLeaks is where mainstream assumptions may fall down.

As ex-Ambassador Murray has said, U.S. intelligence was almost surely keeping tabs on Podesta’s communications because of his ties to Saudi Arabia and other foreign governments. So, the U.S. intelligence community represents another suspect in the case of who leaked those emails to WikiLeaks. It would be a smart play, reminiscent of the convoluted spy tales of John LeCarré, if U.S. intelligence officials sought to cover their own tracks by shifting suspicions onto the Russians.

But just the suspicion of the CIA joining the FBI and possibly other U.S. intelligence agencies to intervene in the American people’s choice of a president would cause President Harry Truman, who launched the CIA with prohibitions against it engaging in domestic activities, and Sen. Frank Church, who investigated the CIA’s abuses, to spin in their graves.
 
Laura said:
This is most interesting and worth watching:

Victor Davis Hanson - The Mythologies of the 2016 Election

Hanson speaks about the 2016 election and the myths surrounding it at the David Horowitz Freedom Center

https://www.youtube.com/embed/z7pQdqPzozc

Interesting indeed! I like the guy and I laughed when he said “All the people you don’t like, don’t like Trump. That’s a fact.” :D
 
It was, after all, a senior FBI official, Mark Felt, who – as “Deep Throat” – guided The Washington Post’s Bob Woodward and Carl Bernstein in their Watergate investigation into the criminality of President Richard Nixon.
Sometime in the past I came across material that alledged that Nixon was starting to wise up to the extent of Jewish control in this country and so Watergate was the means used to take Nixon down. Seems plausible.
But just the suspicion of the CIA joining the FBI and possibly other U.S. intelligence agencies to intervene in the American people’s choice of a president would cause President Harry Truman, who launched the CIA with prohibitions against it engaging in domestic activities, and Sen. Frank Church, who investigated the CIA’s abuses, to spin in their graves.
And Kennedy, too, as he wanted to do away w/ the CIA altogether.
 
Well, today's Monday - the big day for the Electors Vote. For what I have read, this is the second part of the election process and is more "of a confirmation" of the peoples vote. Up to this point, the voting of "faithless" electors has never influenced the final presidential-election results. With that in mind, I've been trying to figure out, what all the media hoopla is all about with "Russian interference - etc" .... unless a Coup of some kind is really in the process?

"Faithless" electors are Electoral College members who do not vote for their party’s victorious candidate.
https://sputniknews.com/us/201612191048725885-faithless-electors-us-electoral-college/

The lineup of the Electoral College and the procedure of its work are determined by Article One of the United States Constitution and the 12th Amendment to it.

The Electoral College consists of specially chosen people responsible for electing the president and vice president of the United States during the second stage of the two-stage election process.

The number of electors from each state is equal to the number of Senators and members of the House of Representatives representing any given state. The District of Columbia has the right to choose three electors. Electors should be experienced and influential in order to represent the interests of the residents of their state. Each state decides independently who will represent its interests in the Electoral College during any specific election. The members of the Electoral College gather on the first Monday after the second Wednesday of December following the presidential election. (Under the US Constitution, the presidential election is held on the first Tuesday after the first Monday of November in a leap year.) No general meeting of electors is held because they vote in their home states. As a rule, they support the candidates of their party. The US Constitution and federal legislation do not define the duties of electors in any way.

Twenty-nine states and the District of Columbia have passed legislation obliging electors to vote in line with election results in their home states. The electors may otherwise be fined or disqualified.

The legislation of other states stipulates no voting restrictions. Since its inception, the Electoral College has had 157 "faithless" electors. Seventy-one of them changed their mind because the initial candidate had died prior to the Electoral College vote (63 electors in 1872 and eight in 1912). Electors abstained from voting for any candidate three times (two electors in 1832 and one in 2000). Eighty-three electors voted differently on their own initiative (one elector in 1796, six electors in 1808, three electors in 1812, one elector in 1820, seven electors in 1828, 30 electors in 1832, 23 electors in 1836, four electors in 1896 and one elector each in 1948, 1956, 1960, 1968, 1972, 1976, 1988 and 2004).

At the same time, the voting of "faithless" electors has never influenced the final presidential-election results.


Photos of Trump's final 'Thank You' tour in Mobile, Alabama on Saturday afternoon. This is only one stop but the large crowd is typical of the other recent Thank You tours. If some kind of Coup is being planned, could you imagine the chaos that would follow?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4045430/How-South-charmed-Incredible-crowd-pictures-Trump-s-Thank-tour-adoring-female-fan-base-thousands-praying-seats-bible-belt-Alabama.html
 
If you guys want to follow how the electors are voting (have voted) you can follow the developments here:

_http://www.270towin.com/live-2016-presidential-election-vote-of-electors/

The 'Other' column will show the amount of "faithless electors" who've changed their vote - so far it's zero!
 
Aragorn said:
If you guys want to follow how the electors are voting (have voted) you can follow the developments here:

_http://www.270towin.com/live-2016-presidential-election-vote-of-electors/
Thanks Aragorn, I been looking for this.
 
Thank you Aragorn for the link to that site. In addition, people can also watch the CSPAN TV version on the following link as well. Just in case anyone is interested.

https://www.c-span.org/video/?420386-1/electoral-college-meets-vote-president-united-states
 
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