Earthquake in Chile: Are you all OK?
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We really hope you, your families and your friends are safe!
Oh, thank god! I'm glad you are OK. Thanks for replying so fast. It must have been pretty shocking even if nothing bad happened to you. Take care.
There are at least three other members in the forum who come from Chile. Hopefully they'll be OK too.
There are at least three other members in the forum who come from Chile. Hopefully they'll be OK too.
alphonse
Jedi Master
Manuel, I am very glad to hear you are OK, I thought of you when I saw this.
This must be very shocking for you and an awful experience
I have very many friends in Chile, from South to North as I am there about twice a year for work.
Currently I can't get through to any one in Santiago, Vinya, or La Serena -
I am hoping it is just a communications thing, so Manuel, if you have a chance to update us, I would be grateful
good luck amigo
al
This must be very shocking for you and an awful experience
I have very many friends in Chile, from South to North as I am there about twice a year for work.
Currently I can't get through to any one in Santiago, Vinya, or La Serena -
I am hoping it is just a communications thing, so Manuel, if you have a chance to update us, I would be grateful
good luck amigo
al
Japan had a 7.0 unreported in the states
7.0
Date-Time Friday, February 26, 2010 at 20:31:27 UTC
Saturday, February 27, 2010 at 05:31:27 AM at epicenter
Time of Earthquake in other Time Zones
Location 25.902°N, 128.417°E
Depth 22 km (13.7 miles) set by location program
Region RYUKYU ISLANDS, JAPAN
Distances 80 km (50 miles) ESE of Naha, Okinawa, Japan
455 km (285 miles) ENE of Ishigaki-jima, Ryukyu Islands, Japan
665 km (415 miles) SSW of Kagoshima, Kyushu, Japan
1530 km (950 miles) SW of TOKYO, Japan
Location Uncertainty horizontal +/- 4.4 km (2.7 miles); depth fixed by location program
Parameters NST=281, Nph=281, Dmin=104 km, Rmss=1.16 sec, Gp= 14°,
M-type=teleseismic moment magnitude (Mw), Version=A
Source USGS NEIC (WDCS-D)
Event ID us2010teb2
7.0
Date-Time Friday, February 26, 2010 at 20:31:27 UTC
Saturday, February 27, 2010 at 05:31:27 AM at epicenter
Time of Earthquake in other Time Zones
Location 25.902°N, 128.417°E
Depth 22 km (13.7 miles) set by location program
Region RYUKYU ISLANDS, JAPAN
Distances 80 km (50 miles) ESE of Naha, Okinawa, Japan
455 km (285 miles) ENE of Ishigaki-jima, Ryukyu Islands, Japan
665 km (415 miles) SSW of Kagoshima, Kyushu, Japan
1530 km (950 miles) SW of TOKYO, Japan
Location Uncertainty horizontal +/- 4.4 km (2.7 miles); depth fixed by location program
Parameters NST=281, Nph=281, Dmin=104 km, Rmss=1.16 sec, Gp= 14°,
M-type=teleseismic moment magnitude (Mw), Version=A
Source USGS NEIC (WDCS-D)
Event ID us2010teb2
So, in fairly rapid succession, a big one in Haiti, Japan, and now Chili...
If earthquakes are going off, that means that stuff is happening under the ocean, too. And that stuff - oozing of many cubic miles of magma - can heat the oceans which then heat the lower atmosphere giving the false impression of warming. Because, meanwhile the upper atmosphere, being loaded with dust, as we know from noctilucent clouds and other upper atmospheric formations, is getting colder. That means more precipitation and, depending on where it is, it can be in the form of more snow... which means lots of ice forming...
If earthquakes are going off, that means that stuff is happening under the ocean, too. And that stuff - oozing of many cubic miles of magma - can heat the oceans which then heat the lower atmosphere giving the false impression of warming. Because, meanwhile the upper atmosphere, being loaded with dust, as we know from noctilucent clouds and other upper atmospheric formations, is getting colder. That means more precipitation and, depending on where it is, it can be in the form of more snow... which means lots of ice forming...
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Thanks Al! I hope you can get in touch with your friends!
Yesterday in the night I wasn't too affraid. I just runned to the doorway of my house where they say it's safe, yelling to my mother and her boyfriend to come down. There were some flashes in the darkness, I think from the power lines, but it immediatley made think in metorites..so that scared me a little and then during the rest of the night and early in the morning there were tremors and I would just listen, waiting for the sound of explosions, fearing that it could be meteorites...Now I'm seeing the news and watching the scenes of destruction make want to cry a little. It's sad. Fortunately no one I know is harmed, but I feel sad for the people who lost their loved ones or their work source.
I wonder the same...I've found this concerning the depth of the earthquakes of today in Chile (from here: http://neic.usgs.gov/neis/bulletin/bulletin_esp.html):
Every single one ocurred at depth of exactly 35 kms!! :O Does this mean something?
Hello all,
I am in La Serena, but if you have any relatives you want to contact just PM me. The ineternet connection is unstable so if I do not respond do not worry.
The succession of big earthquakes is indeed a sign something is happening underground.
I am in La Serena, but if you have any relatives you want to contact just PM me. The ineternet connection is unstable so if I do not respond do not worry.
The succession of big earthquakes is indeed a sign something is happening underground.
A friend sent this to me a couple weeks ago.
WORTH THE READ!!
Boy! Is this ever an eye opener. Directly opposite of what we've been
taught over the years! I can remember in school being told to, "duck
and cover" or stand in a doorway during an earthquake. This guy's
findings are absolutely amazing. I hope we all remember his survival
method if we are ever in an earthquake!!!
EXTRACT FROM DOUG COPP'S ARTICLE ON THE: "TRIANGLE OF LIFE"
My name is Doug Copp. I am the Rescue Chief and Disaster Manager of
the American Rescue Team International (ARTI), the world's most
experienced rescue team. The information in this article will save
lives in an earthquake.
I have crawled inside 875 collapsed buildings, worked with rescue
teams from 60 countries, founded rescue teams in several countries,
and I am a member of many rescue teams from many countries...
I was the United Nations expert in Disaster Mitigation for two years.
I have worked at every major disaster in the world since 1985, except
for simultaneous disasters.
The first building I ever crawled inside of was a school in Mexico
City during the 1985 earthquake. Every child was under its desk. Every
child was crushed to the thickness of their bones. They could have
survived by lying down next to their desks in the aisles. It was
obscene, unnecessary and I wondered why the children were not in the
aisles. I didn't at the time know that the children were told to hide
under something.
Simply stated, when buildings collapse, the weight of the ceilings
falling upon the objects or furniture inside crushes these objects,
leaving a space or void next to them. This space is what I call the
"triangle of life".
The larger the object, the stronger, the less it will compact. The
less the object compacts, the larger the void, the greater the
probability that the person who is using this void for safety will not
be injured. The next time you watch collapsed buildings, on
television, count the "triangles" you see formed. They are everywhere.
It is the most common shape, you will see, in a collapsed building.
TIPS FOR EARTHQUAKE SAFETY
1) Most everyone who simply "ducks and covers" WHEN BUILDINGS COLLAPSE
are crushed to death. People who get under objects, like desks or
cars, are crushed.
2) Cats, dogs and babies often naturally curl up in the fetal
position. You should too in an earthquake... It is a natural
safety/survival instinct. You can survive in a smaller void. Get next
to an object, next to a sofa, next to a large bulky object that will
compress slightly but leave a void next to it.
3) Wooden buildings are the safest type of construction to be in
during an earthquake. Wood is flexible and moves with the force of the
earthquake. If the wooden building does collapse, large survival
voids are created. Also, the wooden building has less concentrated,
crushing weight.
Brick buildings will break into individual bricks. Bricks will cause
many injuries but less squashed bodies than concrete slabs.
4) If you are in bed during the night and an earthquake occurs, simply
roll off the bed. A safe void will exist around the bed. Hotels can
achieve a much greater survival rate in earthquakes, simply by posting
a sign on The back of the door of every room telling occupants to lie
down on the floor, next to the bottom of the bed during an earthquake.
5) If an earthquake happens and you cannot easily escape by getting
out the door or window, then lie down and curl up in the fetal
position next to a sofa, or large chair.
6) Most everyone who gets under a doorway when buildings collapse is
killed. How? If you stand under a doorway and the doorjamb falls
forward or backward you will be crushed by the ceiling above. If the
door jam falls sideways you will be cut in half by the doorway. In
either case, you will be killed!
7) Never go to the stairs. The stairs have a different "moment of
frequency" (they swing separately from the main part of the building).
The stairs and remainder of the building continuously bump into each other
until structural failure of the stairs takes place. The people who get
on stairs before they fail are chopped up by the stair treads -
horribly mutilated.
Even if the building doesn't collapse, stay away from the stairs. The
stairs are a likely part of the building to be damaged. Even if the
stairs are not collapsed by the earthquake, they may collapse later
when overloaded by fleeing people. They should always be checked for
safety, even when the rest of the building is not damaged.
8) Get Near the Outer Walls Of Buildings Or Outside Of Them If
Possible - It is much better to be near the outside of the building
rather than the interior. The farther inside you are from the outside
perimeter of the building the greater the probability that your escape
route will be blocked.
9) People inside of their vehicles are crushed when the road above
falls in an earthquake and crushes their vehicles; which is exactly
what happened with the slabs between the decks of the Nimitz
Freeway... The victims of the San Francisco earthquake all stayed
inside of their vehicles.
They were all killed. They could have easily survived by getting out
and sitting or lying next to their vehicles. Everyone killed would
have survived if they had been able to get out of their cars and sit
or lie next to them.
All the crushed cars had voids 3 feet high next to them, except for
the cars that had columns fall directly across them.
10) I discovered, while crawling inside of collapsed newspaper offices
and other offices with a lot of paper, that paper does not compact.
Large voids are found surrounding stacks of paper.
Spread the word and save someone's life... The Entire world is
experiencing natural calamities so be prepared!
"We are but angels with one wing, it takes two to fly".
In 1996 we made a film, which proved my survival methodology to be
correct. The Turkish Federal Government, City of Istanbul, University
of Istanbul Case Productions and ARTI cooperated to film this
practical, scientific test. We collapsed a school and a home with 20
mannequins inside.
Ten mannequins did "duck and cover," and ten mannequins I used in my
"triangle of life" survival method. After the simulated earthquake
collapse we crawled through the rubble and entered the building to
film and document the results. The film, in which I practiced my
survival techniques under directly observable, scientific conditions,
relevant to building collapse, showed there would have been zero
percent survival for those doing duck and cover.
There would likely have been 100 percent survivability for people
using my method of the "triangle of life." This film has been seen by
millions of viewers on television in Turkey and the rest of Europe,
and it was seen in the USA , Canada and Latin America on the TV
program Real TV.
WORTH THE READ!!
Boy! Is this ever an eye opener. Directly opposite of what we've been
taught over the years! I can remember in school being told to, "duck
and cover" or stand in a doorway during an earthquake. This guy's
findings are absolutely amazing. I hope we all remember his survival
method if we are ever in an earthquake!!!
EXTRACT FROM DOUG COPP'S ARTICLE ON THE: "TRIANGLE OF LIFE"
My name is Doug Copp. I am the Rescue Chief and Disaster Manager of
the American Rescue Team International (ARTI), the world's most
experienced rescue team. The information in this article will save
lives in an earthquake.
I have crawled inside 875 collapsed buildings, worked with rescue
teams from 60 countries, founded rescue teams in several countries,
and I am a member of many rescue teams from many countries...
I was the United Nations expert in Disaster Mitigation for two years.
I have worked at every major disaster in the world since 1985, except
for simultaneous disasters.
The first building I ever crawled inside of was a school in Mexico
City during the 1985 earthquake. Every child was under its desk. Every
child was crushed to the thickness of their bones. They could have
survived by lying down next to their desks in the aisles. It was
obscene, unnecessary and I wondered why the children were not in the
aisles. I didn't at the time know that the children were told to hide
under something.
Simply stated, when buildings collapse, the weight of the ceilings
falling upon the objects or furniture inside crushes these objects,
leaving a space or void next to them. This space is what I call the
"triangle of life".
The larger the object, the stronger, the less it will compact. The
less the object compacts, the larger the void, the greater the
probability that the person who is using this void for safety will not
be injured. The next time you watch collapsed buildings, on
television, count the "triangles" you see formed. They are everywhere.
It is the most common shape, you will see, in a collapsed building.
TIPS FOR EARTHQUAKE SAFETY
1) Most everyone who simply "ducks and covers" WHEN BUILDINGS COLLAPSE
are crushed to death. People who get under objects, like desks or
cars, are crushed.
2) Cats, dogs and babies often naturally curl up in the fetal
position. You should too in an earthquake... It is a natural
safety/survival instinct. You can survive in a smaller void. Get next
to an object, next to a sofa, next to a large bulky object that will
compress slightly but leave a void next to it.
3) Wooden buildings are the safest type of construction to be in
during an earthquake. Wood is flexible and moves with the force of the
earthquake. If the wooden building does collapse, large survival
voids are created. Also, the wooden building has less concentrated,
crushing weight.
Brick buildings will break into individual bricks. Bricks will cause
many injuries but less squashed bodies than concrete slabs.
4) If you are in bed during the night and an earthquake occurs, simply
roll off the bed. A safe void will exist around the bed. Hotels can
achieve a much greater survival rate in earthquakes, simply by posting
a sign on The back of the door of every room telling occupants to lie
down on the floor, next to the bottom of the bed during an earthquake.
5) If an earthquake happens and you cannot easily escape by getting
out the door or window, then lie down and curl up in the fetal
position next to a sofa, or large chair.
6) Most everyone who gets under a doorway when buildings collapse is
killed. How? If you stand under a doorway and the doorjamb falls
forward or backward you will be crushed by the ceiling above. If the
door jam falls sideways you will be cut in half by the doorway. In
either case, you will be killed!
7) Never go to the stairs. The stairs have a different "moment of
frequency" (they swing separately from the main part of the building).
The stairs and remainder of the building continuously bump into each other
until structural failure of the stairs takes place. The people who get
on stairs before they fail are chopped up by the stair treads -
horribly mutilated.
Even if the building doesn't collapse, stay away from the stairs. The
stairs are a likely part of the building to be damaged. Even if the
stairs are not collapsed by the earthquake, they may collapse later
when overloaded by fleeing people. They should always be checked for
safety, even when the rest of the building is not damaged.
8) Get Near the Outer Walls Of Buildings Or Outside Of Them If
Possible - It is much better to be near the outside of the building
rather than the interior. The farther inside you are from the outside
perimeter of the building the greater the probability that your escape
route will be blocked.
9) People inside of their vehicles are crushed when the road above
falls in an earthquake and crushes their vehicles; which is exactly
what happened with the slabs between the decks of the Nimitz
Freeway... The victims of the San Francisco earthquake all stayed
inside of their vehicles.
They were all killed. They could have easily survived by getting out
and sitting or lying next to their vehicles. Everyone killed would
have survived if they had been able to get out of their cars and sit
or lie next to them.
All the crushed cars had voids 3 feet high next to them, except for
the cars that had columns fall directly across them.
10) I discovered, while crawling inside of collapsed newspaper offices
and other offices with a lot of paper, that paper does not compact.
Large voids are found surrounding stacks of paper.
Spread the word and save someone's life... The Entire world is
experiencing natural calamities so be prepared!
"We are but angels with one wing, it takes two to fly".
In 1996 we made a film, which proved my survival methodology to be
correct. The Turkish Federal Government, City of Istanbul, University
of Istanbul Case Productions and ARTI cooperated to film this
practical, scientific test. We collapsed a school and a home with 20
mannequins inside.
Ten mannequins did "duck and cover," and ten mannequins I used in my
"triangle of life" survival method. After the simulated earthquake
collapse we crawled through the rubble and entered the building to
film and document the results. The film, in which I practiced my
survival techniques under directly observable, scientific conditions,
relevant to building collapse, showed there would have been zero
percent survival for those doing duck and cover.
There would likely have been 100 percent survivability for people
using my method of the "triangle of life." This film has been seen by
millions of viewers on television in Turkey and the rest of Europe,
and it was seen in the USA , Canada and Latin America on the TV
program Real TV.
alphonse
Jedi Master
Re: hileEarthquake in Chile: Are you all OK?
Great to hear from you mkrnhr, glad your ok. What are things like around Ovalle?
Good advice in the article, thanks Laura, I will pass that round to people I know on Monday.
I know someone that was in the '85 earthquake in Chile - be survived being crushed by lying flat in his big old cast iron bath tub- Same principle i guess?
I felt the same Manuel, it is indeed really sad, please take care guys
mkrnhr said:
Great to hear from you mkrnhr, glad your ok. What are things like around Ovalle?
Good advice in the article, thanks Laura, I will pass that round to people I know on Monday.
I know someone that was in the '85 earthquake in Chile - be survived being crushed by lying flat in his big old cast iron bath tub- Same principle i guess?
Manuel said:
I felt the same Manuel, it is indeed really sad, please take care guys
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The Force is Strong With This One
M.A.O. said:
Im watching CNN and Chile is all over the news nothing about japan! Whats next? I hope our forum members and there families are in good heath!
