Éiriú-Eolas - Breathing Program

[Keit]

Very good. I often use visualization myself. One of my favorites is to try to visualize a large drop of water.

Couple of days ago I remembered that in the past (long before I started doing EE meditation) before falling asleep I was relaxing myself into a sort of meditative state by imagining that the energy in my body was doing a swinging movement in a shape of infinity sign. Actually, I didn't realize that it was infinity until now. Maybe I can try to do it again, and this time to imagine the sign in front of me and concentrate on the movement. Another thing that also helped me to concentrate on the breathing, is imagining the counting as a pendulum movement that I need to follow.

Also, first times when I was doing the Beatha part, I couldn't quite do the breathing "round" (make it so that an inhalation will gradually change into an exhalation) until I tried to visualize and feel the cycle of inhalation-exhalation as a yin yang circle: when one part cane to an end, it morphed into the other part, and so on. With this visualization the process felt much more harmonic, and my body seemed to like it.

 

[Approaching Infinity]

I'm thinking that we need to create some meditation tracks without words for those who have memorized the POTS. Just reciting it in your mind without prompting from the outside can be enough to master what is going on in your head.

I know I'd really appreciate this. I have found that reciting the prayer in my mind helps focus attention, except when I'm sleepy. When that happens I'll drift off somewhere for several seconds (?) and realize I can't remember what the last line I said was!

 

[Tigersoap]

I'm thinking that we need to create some meditation tracks without words for those who have memorized the POTS. Just reciting it in your mind without prompting from the outside can be enough to master what is going on in your head.

I know I'd really appreciate this. I have found that reciting the prayer in my mind helps focus attention, except when I'm sleepy. When that happens I'll drift off somewhere for several seconds (?) and realize I can't remember what the last line I said was!

Oh yes please, that would be great !
I usually cannot say the prayer more than two or three times if I am lucky, before I start going off track in my head and fall asleep directly !
I try to say the prayer during the day as well as it helps me to focus.

 

[shijing]

I'm thinking that we need to create some meditation tracks without words for those who have memorized the POTS. Just reciting it in your mind without prompting from the outside can be enough to master what is going on in your head.

I know I'd really appreciate this. I have found that reciting the prayer in my mind helps focus attention, except when I'm sleepy. When that happens I'll drift off somewhere for several seconds (?) and realize I can't remember what the last line I said was!

I'd like to try this too -- I also have a regular problem calming the thoughts in my mind, and that is one of the reasons I wonder why I haven't experienced more during the meditation itself. I will try the visualization suggestions as well.

 

[Justin]

I'm thinking that we need to create some meditation tracks without words for those who have memorized the POTS. Just reciting it in your mind without prompting from the outside can be enough to master what is going on in your head.

I know I'd really appreciate this. I have found that reciting the prayer in my mind helps focus attention, except when I'm sleepy. When that happens I'll drift off somewhere for several seconds (?) and realize I can't remember what the last line I said was!

I'd appreciate it as well. I have the same issue as Approaching Infinity when I recite the prayer from memory. It goes well most of the time, but when I get sleepy I actually wake up with the thought of "what is the next line?" which is kinda weird.

 

[truth seeker]

There is also a possibility that we might be even experiencing or dreaming about events or traumas that are not ours but of people who are close o us or to whose frequency we are tuned for some reason.

I've had this distinct feeling my self lately. That and also that people either that are close to us or our frequency are having the same /similar physical issues...

 

[RedFox]

Thank you Mrs Tigersoap, that was quite inspiring :)

I tend to think that my experience and opinion is of no value here, with all these people knowing 100 times more than I do.

I still feel like that....less so than when I first arrived, but its still there. I just have to keep reminding myself that its just inner considering to compare myself like this to anyone else, and do my best to practice external considering when posting.

As for the breathing program, I stopped doing it for a while as everytime I decide to do it, I just automatically feel so exhausted I was even not able to move and I end up deeply sleeping at the same place. But I realized that this must be something (one or many of my little "I's"?) trying to prevent me to gain benefit from this program. I decided to put it at the top of my "must do" things once I am back at home from work as from today. Everything will become secondary.

I seem to be experiencing this as well....either time or lack of energy seems to get in the way (I'd started feeling extremely tired before doing the E-E program). I have managed to stick to doing the POTS every night however. I've put this down to being pretty skinny, and slowly loosing weight in regards to cutting out gluten/dairy.....despite getting enough calories (I lost my appetite too).
Its still too early to say (its only the second day), but I am now taking pro-biotics and digestive enzymes with my meals and they are having quite a large difference on my energy levels. I am starting to regain my appetite as well :)
Incidentely I seem to be getting taller (and my posture is a lot better than it use to be). I'm about 6ft3" tall and stopped noticing I was growing around 26....I'm 31 now and the last week or two I feel taller (and everyone else seems shorter). Perhaps its just my posture changing, but it sure feels like a growth spurt. If I reach the top of the door frame I'll let you all know

fwiw there seems to be a mutual effect between the right diet/supplements, the E-E program and continual knowledge input.....one part cannot progress to far without the others being in balance. Now I've (hopefully) rebalanced the diet/supplement part I feel like I'm on the express elevator again.

I picture a large 3D "1", which I interact with: sit on, climb, hang on. I've found it helps me focus my attention and I don't lose track of which breath I'm on

One of my favorites is to try to visualize a large drop of water.

Ah, I'd forgotten about a visual element. I've also been having trouble staying focused (my head getting cluttered up with daily thoughts) during the POTS....and during the other parts of the E-E program too. Perhaps they also need a visual element?

For the meditation, I think I'll try to use visualization like AI mentioned. I also have trouble calming my mind for that portion so I end up running through thoughts during the prayer. The visualization process sounds like a good way to get deep into meditation.

I'm thinking that we need to create some meditation tracks without words for those who have memorized the POTS. Just reciting it in your mind without prompting from the outside can be enough to master what is going on in your head.

The CD version of the E-E program has a music track that I have play after the POTS on my mp3 player. I haven't done so for a while but just reciting the POTS myself to that track has (now I come to think of it) produced more intense results than just listening to the POTS. However listening to the POTS has produced deeper meditations but only when I've managed to still my mind.

I think I may try reversing the tracks, listen to just the music track and recite the POTS myself then listen to Laura recite it and focus on a visual image......
I really like the mental image of a large drop of water (reflection, refraction and prismatic effects!) :)

I would like to have some one paragraph "testimonials" to include with our new video similar to that last paragraph that Mrs. T wrote. It's just perfect. Send them to laura(at)paleochristianity.org and let us know your first name, last initial, occupation, to include with the clip.

I'll see what I can come up with.

Not much to report, except that my job (and other parts of my life in general) seem to be flowing much more easily now I'm practicing my understanding of non-attachment. It almost feels like I'm traveling a million miles an hour, and when I focus on my work it feels effort less.
That's not to say it isn't effort less.....its still an major uphill struggle to get myself to focus on my work and not do something that is a waste of time instead. But when I do focus it goes well.
I've also been studying for some exams (to gain more qualifications for hopefully better job prospects), and have noticed an increasing anxiety when I am focused on the revision.....perhaps this is part of the struggle involved in focusing on what needs to be done....something that needs exploring.
Lastly the gap (buffer?) between me and my emotions is decreasing, due to what seems like a growing sense of internal security/safety (which I also get whenever I hear Laura read the POTS, or anything for that matter).....perhaps I'll feel safe enough to ware my heart on my sleeve again some day.

This is a profoundly healing process

 

[SeekinTruth]

I wanted to give a little summary of what has happened since the beginning of the EE, and particularly in these last few months when I stopped posting. {...}

Thanks Mrs. Tigersoap. It really is an amazing program. Some of my experiences parallel yours in daily life. I'm happy for you and everyone else who is reaping the benefits and progressing in their growth & development.

A small update: I've been having trouble calming my mind during the meditation sessions. The work of the day occupies my thoughts and I'm running through ideas, book sources, etc. So in order to better direct my attention, during the pipe-breathing I've started adding a visualization element. Another reason for this is that I need practice with imagination and "internal projection". So for the breathing I really focus on the counting of which breath I'm on. I imagine myself in a small room or cave and, for #1, for example, I picture a large 3D "1", which I interact with: sit on, climb, hang on. I've found it helps me focus my attention and I don't lose track of which breath I'm on. Last night, after doing this, during the POTS, I had another "light" experience similar to the one I described earlier (where I saw a lighthouse during meditation and it startled me out of the light trance). This time, very suddenly an intense flame (like a strong stream of gas which has been lit) appeared in the center of vision of my mind's eye and burned for just a split second. It even had a loud roaring sound. The light, as well as the sound, startled me and I "woke up" from it.

Thanks. That's a good idea, I think I might experiment with it.

 

[manitoban]

That was my experience. I found that doing the 3 stage and round breathing earlier in the day not only energized me for the day, but also just doing the meditation at night made it easier to fall asleep than doing it all before bed.

Me too! I really like to do the the pipe breathing earlier as it seems to help me start the day grounded, focused and ready to face the day.

 

[Bluestar]

Ah, seems I am not alone with some of the blockages I have been having lately. Mostly I find on Mondays I have no problem doing the EE program. It is Thursdays that I seem to put off for some reason. I usually get to it on Friday, but sometimes time slips away and I wait till Monday. Also thinking that I am going to try and do pipe breathing & POTS a bit earlier then bedtime cause I have also experienced wandering thoughts and losing track of where I am in the prayer. Falling asleep. I do feel better at it when I listen to Laura's voice. Am able to follow along better then when I do it myself.

Have not really experienced any lights since about a month or so ago. Though had a weird experience last week during POTS, where I saw huge mouth like a venus flytrap that had many rows of fang like teeth, it filled my entire mind's eye. There was no fear, I think, I mostly watched it. I think it tried to swallow me, but it could not and then it just faded away. Did not mention it earlier cause I thought it insignificant, but then changed my mind.

The dreams I do remember have been dreams of being in a situ where I need help because I am being invaded my some person/people/zombie things. I try to call 911, but never get through or when I do the police are part of the problem. Most of the time I struggle through it and manage some kind of relief by my own accord. A couple of times had to do with me killing the invaders. Waking up feeling awkward and troubled by the whole event, cause I have a hard time killing bugs in my life, let alone anything else. Also had a dream about a parasite thing that looked like a sea urchin octopus on the side of my left torso. Was at a hospital trying to get it removed. Woke up before it was taken off.

Can a person have parasites from a hyperdimensional place?


Thank you all for giving me the courage to continue.

 

[Niall]

I've grown to enjoy the program after too long spent avoiding it. The physical side effects made me miserable for a while - my nose was practically leaking water and I'd sneeze alot in the mornings - this may have been a bout of flu, but what Louise Hay's Heal Your Body has to say about the nose makes sense from an emotional point of view:

Nose Represents self-recognition

Runny Asking for help. Inner Crying

Stuffy Not recognizing the self-worth

I haven't cried since beginning the program in August, though I've come very close to it at times. I wonder if that's because I haven't 'permitted' the cleansed emotions to rise past my nose, through where they escape instead?

Despite feeling overwhelmed and angry during one sitting early on, I feel fortuneate to be doing the program up to three times a week now without any wild experiences... well, until last night!

I did a full program yesterday evening, then carried on with my day. As I was falling asleep later on, lying completely still on my back, I heard/felt a short sharp BANG in my head. It was alarming, but I just lay there asking aloud, "What the hell was that?!"

It wasn't an external sound, but it had a distinct tone or feel to it, not unlike the 'snap' my neck or back sometimes makes when I adjust position. And yet it wasn't a sound resulting from a physical adjustment in the body. Come to think of it, it was more like a short, sharp explosion in my brain!

 

[SeekinTruth]

I would like to have some one paragraph "testimonials" to include with our new video similar to that last paragraph that Mrs. T wrote. It's just perfect. Send them to laura(at)paleochristianity.org and let us know your first name, last initial, occupation, to include with the clip.

I wrote a brief testimonial and sent it to you. Hope it's suitable for the video.

 

[Beau]

I'm thinking that we need to create some meditation tracks without words for those who have memorized the POTS. Just reciting it in your mind without prompting from the outside can be enough to master what is going on in your head.

I think that's a great idea.

 

[Laura]

Thanks to those who have sent testimonials to use in the video... keep 'em coming!

 

[combsbt]

A small update: I've been having trouble calming my mind during the meditation sessions. The work of the day occupies my thoughts and I'm running through ideas, book sources, etc. So in order to better direct my attention, during the pipe-breathing I've started adding a visualization element. Another reason for this is that I need practice with imagination and "internal projection". So for the breathing I really focus on the counting of which breath I'm on. I imagine myself in a small room or cave and, for #1, for example, I picture a large 3D "1", which I interact with: sit on, climb, hang on. I've found it helps me focus my attention and I don't lose track of which breath I'm on. Last night, after doing this, during the POTS, I had another "light" experience similar to the one I described earlier (where I saw a lighthouse during meditation and it startled me out of the light trance). This time, very suddenly an intense flame (like a strong stream of gas which has been lit) appeared in the center of vision of my mind's eye and burned for just a split second. It even had a loud roaring sound. The light, as well as the sound, startled me and I "woke up" from it. Other than that, nothing interesting to report!

Very good. I often use visualization myself. One of my favorites is to try to visualize a large drop of water.

Let me suggest that ya'll do pipe breathing (three stage breathing) in the mornings, round breathing early in the evening on the days you do that (2 times a week unless you have left it off for a reason) and JUST the meditation, starting with a few pipe breaths in the evenings. It appears that the 3 stage breathing is too energizing and the round breathing can bring up disturbances to sleep.

Ya'll keep in mind that all I did for years was pipe breathing leading into meditation and that did the trick. So you CAN dispense with the rest if time is a constraint.

Using visualization is good way to vector your thought patterns. I was reminded of a C's quote mentioning visualization:

Q: What is the "philosopher's stone?"
A: Idea centre.
Q: How can this idea centre be accessed?
A: Many ways: meditation is best.
Q: Is there any visual image of the philosopher's stone that one could use to access it in meditation?
A: Yes. Diamond or prism.

I'm curious, Laura, if your choice of a large drop of water is related to this in that it could be seen as a prism that is roughly diamond shaped?