Éiriú-Eolas - Breathing Program

[StrangeCaptain]

Is a rejection of Rose really a rejection of those qualities relating to rose, at least in relation to the self? Is it that one has been scarred by those things?

Just thinking out loud here.

Maybe in our hardened societies, people have a deep fear of displaying these qualities as they are associated with weakness as femininity is associated with weakness. Or perhaps deep, unfulfilled longings are awakened that make one uncomfortable in the sense of keenly feeling the absence of these qualities...

 

[Ollie]

Well I for one am happy with the sites colours. There are also close to the colours for the current seasons (red and green).

For years i wore only blue (what does that say about me!), or black (and for a lot of walking clothes this is the only colour available), and have now happily branched out into reds and greens, not quite pink - other than a white collar that turned pink in the wash! Interestingly, my aged mother was horrified that i was wearing a light green shirt with a pink collar; socialization at work (a man in pink!).

Pink is warm! And roses, we have a job to do, a uniform to wear to get a message across (and a covert activity underneath - to wake up humanity).

 

[Oxajil]

I love the site! Very well done.

The colors picked give a fresh and soft look imo.

 

[RedFox]

Update: Lately, when I'm exhaling, doing The 3 stage breathing, I feel a strong vibration in the upper part of my throat, could be the glottis or the uvula? -I'm still observing - My first thought was that I was exhaling too hard, so I did it more gently but the vibration didn't stop, this just reduces the noise a little bit - it sounds like a gentle snore - am I doing something wrong guys? Someone has experience this? By the way, this didn't happen before.

In the Beatha portion I'm getting a strange feeling, it's like a lot of heat all over my body but at the same time a feeling of cold, I know that it's a strange combination Tongue, could be described as a long shiver, that keeps going through all the last series of breathings, for what I’ve observed It’s not like an hyperventilation feeling – Maybe it is? – But again this didn’t happen before.

Now I'm able to do the meditation in a deeper way, with more zone outs, however, they are not very frequent.

Hi Logos
That's all normal. Sometimes I get the vibration in my throat, sometimes I don't....it comes and goes for me. Have a look at the Frequently Asked Questions if you haven't already, as there are many useful pieces of information collected from this thread in there.

Thanks for the information about colours Laura....I really like the colours on the new site. I may have to try and find more pink to ware too (given I'm a guy this may be a challenge).

I had reached 19 or so, I was "in the pink" and I really didn't know why. I just knew it made me feel better. After all, it's pink and fluffy! It's cotton candy, it's clouds at sunset, it's cherry frosting, strawberries in cream, flowers, babies, somewhere between passionate red and pure white. What's not to like about rose?

I hate to say this, but over a year ago, my husband and I were walking past the laptop aisle in Best Buy and I stopped to gawk and admire a Sony Vaio that was PINK!!! I mean, not only was the lid a pearly pink, but the inside too! All around the keyboard, the screen, it was PINK! I'd never seen such a thing. Now this was back when most laptops were either black or silver, like the Dell I owned.

Yessireee, Pinky went home with me. :) She's got Vista but I won't hold it against her. ;D

Funny that, I'm currently customising a laptop for my girlfriends sons girlfriend which will be pink and sparkly instead of dull and grey when I'm finished! Maybe I'll post some pics in the creative arts section?

I did have a dream that may or may not be related to the new website last night, rather than add to this thread I posted it in the dream section here.

 

[dantem]

Just giving a look at the new site and the new colors, it's a very good package, lovely for the eyes!

It's about a week or so that I've sticked to the ba-ha breathing every night, as I haven't had really any reaction during months of practice. I have to say that something is moving judging by a sharp increase of dreaming activity. Even if I've passed a couple of nights semi-asleep, I'd say that the energy in the morning has increased a lot, and I'll go on for at least another week and then switch back to the normal schedule. At least now I do the circular breathing more easily, and my belly goes up and down more 'in sync' without pauses between inhalation and exhalation.

Pipe breathing while lying down - occasionally with my legs bent upwards - during this month and the previous one, helped to ease a pressure feeling I had in the spleen area. Reading pages about any spleen-related problem and doing tests with kynesiology I come up with the idea that it may be a problem with poor mood and stress, again ;) . Looking forward to take a check-up with another chiropractor soon.

 

[KC Kelly]

It has been many weeks since I have posted here. For the longest time, I was under the impression that the EE program was either having no effect on me at all, or if anything at all was happening, it was only "negative" stuff. But now, after having (for the moment) gotten caught up on the many pages of forum members' experiences, I can now more clearly see--"clear my eyes, that I may see"--that much of the "negative" stuff is part and parcel of the program itself, and its not all "rainbows and butterflies".

Many folks on here have written of their feelings of low self worth, despondency, low motivation (at times), depression; and little by little, I came to feel more "comfortable" that what is happening with me is not so unusual after all. For the past several weeks, I have quite honestly just felt like an utter failure.

I have been doing the full program twice a week (most weeks) and the POTS almost every evening. The holiday schedule recently forced me to take an almost complete hiatus from the full program, doing the pipe breathing at times when possible, but almost always for the 20 minute drive home from work in the evenings. When I was able to resume the full program recently, there have been several strong emotional releases which always have the effect of feeling as though a dam burst and a lot of "garbage" was able to be eliminated from my being. Then after a couple of days, I feel it starting to "foment" and build up once again. After getting caught up in this thread (which has taken me several weeks) I now see this is not so strange and I feel more comfortable that things work this way, yet not exactly "comfortable" feeling this way.

As far as the "zoning out", I have yet to experience what this is, what it feels like, how to recognize it, etc. I am always "conscious" during the pipe breathing, the warriors breath, round breathing, and even during the meditation itself, all the way through "Divine Cosmic Mind, bless you all". I just keep reassuring myself that if the "zoning out" experience will come, it will come. No visions, no disembodied forms, no images of people or places, no flashes of possible "future or past lives"--nothing at all like that. Seems like during August and September I was starting to remember my dreams a little more than was usual most of my life, but since then its back to "I know I dreamt something last night, but I don't remember almost anything about them." Yet there has never been an instance where, after doing the full program, I didn't feel a more calm, relaxed, and restful awareness.

Thanks to all of you who relate your experiences to share with others here. They have helped me tremendously in understanding the nuances of this program and what it can do for a person to grow. I also am affected by "narcissistic wounding" from my childhood and the most powerful negative effect it has had on me is to cloud my mind and influence me not to post here because of the "worthlessness program" that runs in me constantly. Today I won a small battle because I'm typing this and I'm going to post it. Thats a victory for the little boy who always wanted to sit in the back of the classroom and hoped the teacher never called on me to participate in class for fear that the rest of the class would turn around to look at me when it was my turn to respond.

Thanks again all, and may the Divine Cosmic Mind bless you all!

 

[Nienna]

I had reached 19 or so, I was "in the pink" and I really didn't know why. I just knew it made me feel better. After all, it's pink and fluffy! It's cotton candy, it's clouds at sunset, it's cherry frosting, strawberries in cream, flowers, babies, somewhere between passionate red and pure white. What's not to like about rose?

I hate to say this, but over a year ago, my husband and I were walking past the laptop aisle in Best Buy and I stopped to gawk and admire a Sony Vaio that was PINK!!! I mean, not only was the lid a pearly pink, but the inside too! All around the keyboard, the screen, it was PINK! I'd never seen such a thing. Now this was back when most laptops were either black or silver, like the Dell I owned.

Yessireee, Pinky went home with me. :) She's got Vista but I won't hold it against her. ;D

Well, I don't know what it says about me, but pink is just not my favorite color. I like blues and greens and purples and mauve, which is close to pink, will that do? Now if that laptop was purple, that would be a whole other thing for me..... ;D

 

[dant]

NE:
It is interesting that purple derives from red and blue and
pink is derived from a lighter shade of red, would purple exist
without red (pink)? Is not there a common (color) ancestor?

Your avatar from what I can tell, might have a a shade
of pink in it... horrors!!

Not to worry! All is relative! :D

 

[shijing]

Well, I don't know what it says about me, but pink is just not my favorite color. I like blues and greens and purples and mauve, which is close to pink, will that do? Now if that laptop was purple, that would be a whole other thing for me..... ;D

FWIW, I like the range from purple to green myself -- green has been my favorite color since I was a kid, but purple makes me pretty happy too in a more mysterious way. Nothing against pink, mind you.

 

[Jacques]

I had reached 19 or so, I was "in the pink" and I really didn't know why. I just knew it made me feel better. After all, it's pink and fluffy! It's cotton candy, it's clouds at sunset, it's cherry frosting, strawberries in cream, flowers, babies, somewhere between passionate red and pure white. What's not to like about rose?

I hate to say this, but over a year ago, my husband and I were walking past the laptop aisle in Best Buy and I stopped to gawk and admire a Sony Vaio that was PINK!!! I mean, not only was the lid a pearly pink, but the inside too! All around the keyboard, the screen, it was PINK! I'd never seen such a thing. Now this was back when most laptops were either black or silver, like the Dell I owned.

Yessireee, Pinky went home with me. :) She's got Vista but I won't hold it against her. ;D

Well, I don't know what it says about me, but pink is just not my favorite color. I like blues and greens and purples and mauve, which is close to pink, will that do? Now if that laptop was purple, that would be a whole other thing for me..... ;D

As you said... Well, I don't know what it says about me, but i just love pink and blue.

 

[kannas]

In color psychology, rose symbolizes optimism, innocence, romance, love, and simplicity.

Green says 'nature,' as well as 'initiative' and 'wealth, intelligence, nature, spring, fertility, youth, environment.

Rose is warm, forest green is cool. Rose is active, green is restful.

After all, it's pink and fluffy! It's cotton candy, it's clouds at sunset, it's cherry frosting, strawberries in cream, flowers, babies, somewhere between passionate red and pure white. What's not to like about rose?

My mom loves the shades of pink (rose), mauve, lavender, and white. In her former home, it was these colors with floral, basically in a Victorian style/motif, and it was beautiful. This suited her and made her happy.

Laura, I do believe the Victorian colors and including Valentine suit you very well from my impressions seeing you in video and photos of you with your 'lap' dog. :)

The new Éiriú Eolas web is lovely, crisp, with-it, has pop, and very clean and professional. I like the way it looks.

Here is a very interesting website that is about 'Mostly-Victorian':

_http://www.mostly-victorian.com/

Scroll down a bit on the left sidebar and look at the picture for 'panteek Antique prints'. There you have pink and green. And the link for home decor is definitely pink and pretty!

 

[Mrs. Peel]

[Well, I don't know what it says about me, but pink is just not my favorite color. I like blues and greens and purples and mauve, which is close to pink, will that do? Now if that laptop was purple, that would be a whole other thing for me..... ;D

Well, actually my favorite color IS purple... But a pink laptop was as close to that as I could get. ;)

 

[Tina]

As far as the "zoning out", I have yet to experience what this is, what it feels like, how to recognize it, etc. I am always "conscious" during the pipe breathing, the warriors breath, round breathing, and even during the meditation itself, all the way through "Divine Cosmic Mind, bless you all". I just keep reassuring myself that if the "zoning out" experience will come, it will come. No visions, no disembodied forms, no images of people or places, no flashes of possible "future or past lives"--nothing at all like that.

Hi KC Kelly,
I've only zoned out a couple of times myself and only when I've been very tired. I'm thinking about breathing in through the nose and out through the mouth, and that seems to keep me aware of what I'm doing through the entire meditation. I've never been one who could easily meditate. Also, remember what the C's said:

Q: (L) Boy, that's a heavy responsibility! Well, I guess there's no other way to do it than to start launching into some questions and see where it goes. (Long pause) Okay, I guess the first thing that comes to my mind to ask is: how are our breathing and meditation practitioners doing in the forum and in the group? In QFS and in the forum?

A: Whether they realize it or not, they are making dramatic progress. Do you notice the growing sense of community?

Thanks to all of you who relate your experiences to share with others here. They have helped me tremendously in understanding the nuances of this program and what it can do for a person to grow. I also am affected by "narcissistic wounding" from my childhood and the most powerful negative effect it has had on me is to cloud my mind and influence me not to post here because of the "worthlessness program" that runs in me constantly. Today I won a small battle because I'm typing this and I'm going to post it. Thats a victory for the little boy who always wanted to sit in the back of the classroom and hoped the teacher never called on me to participate in class for fear that the rest of the class would turn around to look at me when it was my turn to respond.

Thanks again all, and may the Divine Cosmic Mind bless you all!

You're certainly not alone there either! I hope you know that you're not worthless and 'nobody's a nobody'

...and bless you back. ;)

 

[Turgon]

Thanks to all of you who relate your experiences to share with others here. They have helped me tremendously in understanding the nuances of this program and what it can do for a person to grow. I also am affected by "narcissistic wounding" from my childhood and the most powerful negative effect it has had on me is to cloud my mind and influence me not to post here because of the "worthlessness program" that runs in me constantly. Today I won a small battle because I'm typing this and I'm going to post it. Thats a victory for the little boy who always wanted to sit in the back of the classroom and hoped the teacher never called on me to participate in class for fear that the rest of the class would turn around to look at me when it was my turn to respond.

Thanks again all, and may the Divine Cosmic Mind bless you all!

You're certainly not alone there either! I hope you know that you're not worthless and 'nobody's a nobody'

...and bless you back. ;)

Incognito is right, you most definitely are not alone. I have the same program that runs in me on a consistent basis. It prevents me from posting and deleting posts when I feel that I'm not saying anything relevant, which is fairly often. So thank you for sharing as it's helpful to know that we all have similar programs and struggles that are surfacing and we need to confront.

 

[JEEP]

The plane was some sort of passanger plane, mostly red(ish) and green (today reading the E-E thread I realise its the Exact same colours as the new E-E website).

...and mauve, which is close to pink,...

In color psychology, rose symbolizes optimism, innocence, romance, love, and simplicity.

Green says 'nature,' as well as 'initiative' and 'wealth, intelligence, nature, spring, fertility, youth, environment.

Rose is warm, forest green is cool. Rose is active, green is restful.

[...]
Bottom line is: those are the colors I like ...

I happened to read RedFox's comments regarding the new Éiriú Eolas web site and was curious as to how it looked based on his comments. I mistakenly thought that clicking on the Éiriú Eolas section on the Sott home page would access it. Seeing that it didn't, I went to the EE thread to find the link in the previous posts without reading the comments. On seeing the EE site, I thought red(ish) wasn't really an accurate description of the prominent color; it was more pink--but what shade of pink? I'm usually pretty good at categorizing colors, but nothing was coming to me except maybe shades of mauve rather than a true pink color. I checked out the site and then returned to the EE thread and read all the comments regarding the colors used as well as Laura's link regarding the effect of color.

...it is bubble gum pink.

Whether it's rose or bubble gum pink/passive pink, I find the color combination (including the rollover yellow) pleasing as those are the colors I like, too! From my female perspective, the site is highly attractive and, being a 'flower' person, I like the multi-layered white petals of the flowers and wonder if they are from the grounds or garden? Flowers and soothing colors - does it not evoke serenity?

As to guys wearing pink, I've lived through the transition of it being solely a girly color to being OK for any man secure in his own masculinity to wear. My hubby has related to me, though, that when he was in the 8th grade (late 60's), he received a pink shirt in a windowpane check pattern that he was crazy about and couldn't wait to wear to school. Unfortunately, it was way before pink was OK for a guy to wear. He never wore the shirt again.

Luckily, he wasn't permanently psychologically scarred by that sad episode. He still likes pink, which is a good thing, as our bedroom colors have been a combination of green and pink since 1980 along with dusty rose bath towels! And, he has worn sherbert colors including lime and peach and they look good on him!

Just for fun, I googled pink color and got Shades of pink at Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Shades_of_pink
Based on the colors shown there, if you like purple, you're actually liking a shade of pink! Amazingly, mauve wasn't one of the listed shades, but as to the pink color of the EE site, it looks like French rose is a closer match than just plain rose--how apropos! And let's face it, if you continue to do Éiriú Eolas, you'll soon be "in the pink"! :P