Éiriú-Eolas - Breathing Program

[tom32071]

I have been working on the breathing program for a month or so now and since I've started, I've noticed that I have begun having dreams (maybe I've had dreams all along just never remembered them) mostly they are weird and disjointed. :/

Yesterday morning;(dream) I had three loads to deliver (I drive truck) and had delivered two, the third was going to keep me out overnight, so I needed to go home and refill my drink container and get something to take with me to eat and also let my wife know that I would be gone overnight. The next thing I knew I was sitting cross legged with a blanket around me, I was levitating (just a little bit off the ground) and scooting along (I was going back to my hotel/motel ?) and I just knew that people would see me and think I was weird or something, but no-one paid any attention at all. I was in some town or city because I kept having to stop for red lights and whenever I took off again I had to kind of push with my hands to get started but once started I went along pretty good. Well I wound up someplace, a shopping center or something and a woman came up to me and wanted me to go to her place with her. I told her I couldn't because I had a load to deliver and I still had to let my wife know. Anyway I finally got away from her and started back, the only thing was that I couldn't scoot along anymore. I could still levitate just couldn't go. So I had to get up and walk back from there.

This morning;(dream) I was in a forest or garden (someplace isolated and wooded) and wanted to explore it and see what was there. So I levitated (standing up) and started going along looking around. Everything was fine until I saw a path that I wanted to go down but I found that I couldn't control where I was going. Then I woke up. :(

Weird. ?????????????

 

[Human]

Thank you all who are posting in this thread, as your experiences have been helping me a lot.

Since my last post here, two weeks ago, I reintroduced beatha part back in practicing EE.
As I've felt ready for some more intensive cleaning, been doing it more than just two times per week (on Mon and Thu in full program).

Experiencing overwhelming feelings again that have been clouding my mind, but resolving them much more quickly then before (at least it seems so). Being able to focus and keep thoughts from wandering more during POTS part also. Like Laura said, been practicing my brain muscle. ;)

A new sensation, that I've been doing something that makes a difference in my life, is also present.

As I've had quite a lot of distinct and intense dreams over the past few years, thanks to cubbex for this link:

There is a good article you could read to get a reference:
http://www.cassiopaea.org/cass/dreams_disinformation.htm

Laura talks about dreams and more.

Noticed one thing though: last night and the night before (at least), although I lied down very late and had been pretty tired, couldn't fall asleep for quite some time (more than an hour for sure). Mind kept working and thoughts jumping here and there. Mostly about what I should have done or should do, i.e. analyzing and planning.
I usually do only a couple of pipe breaths before POTS, not the whole 3-stage breathing in the evenings before going to bed...

Any thoughts or advices about that? :/

edit: Have forgotten to say that "training the brain muscle" has been going much more smoothly when, before starting EE, saying to myself: "just let it flow; don't anticipate or want; just let it be as it should be...". :)

 

[manitoban]

Anybody noticed the distinct energy build-ups before and around beginning EE Mondays and Thursdays? Almost as if a network is being established, Eiriu Eolas Prayers connecting in an act of lifting, helping, supporting each other? Like warmth of sunshine just this works at night? The cleansing effect of EE seems increased. As if this EE-field or something would have consciousness or FRV and everyone who strives to be aligned with it and comes in contact is getting actually aligned more, cleansed, lifted, filled up with this new positive energy. Satiating in a spiritual way. Different from FIR effects.
Unbelievable.

I was just thinking something like this myself. It's like as the network grows and more and more people are practising it, it magnifies the effect of the EE program.

And who knows what kind of positive effect this is having on the world in general!

 

[manitoban]

I have been working on the breathing program for a month or so now and since I've started, I've noticed that I have begun having dreams (maybe I've had dreams all along just never remembered them) mostly they are weird and disjointed. :/

Yesterday morning;(dream) I had three loads to deliver (I drive truck) and had delivered two, the third was going to keep me out overnight, so I needed to go home and refill my drink container and get something to take with me to eat and also let my wife know that I would be gone overnight. The next thing I knew I was sitting cross legged with a blanket around me, I was levitating (just a little bit off the ground) and scooting along (I was going back to my hotel/motel ?) and I just knew that people would see me and think I was weird or something, but no-one paid any attention at all. I was in some town or city because I kept having to stop for red lights and whenever I took off again I had to kind of push with my hands to get started but once started I went along pretty good. Well I wound up someplace, a shopping center or something and a woman came up to me and wanted me to go to her place with her. I told her I couldn't because I had a load to deliver and I still had to let my wife know. Anyway I finally got away from her and started back, the only thing was that I couldn't scoot along anymore. I could still levitate just couldn't go. So I had to get up and walk back from there.

This morning;(dream) I was in a forest or garden (someplace isolated and wooded) and wanted to explore it and see what was there. So I levitated (standing up) and started going along looking around. Everything was fine until I saw a path that I wanted to go down but I found that I couldn't control where I was going. Then I woke up. :(

Weird. ?????????????

Hi Tom,

Just a couple of thoughts about the dreams - levitating is a bit like flying which in dreams sometimes symbolises freedom. The cross legged blanket position makes me think of the Prayer of the Soul, so maybe this relates to the prayer moving you towards greater freedom. You are not all the way there yet, (didn't go much above ground) and there are obstacles to deal with (red lights, people distracting you).

The second dream follows up the same theme, again you are levitating, this time in a garden. I looked up garden in a dream dictionary and here's what it said:

"To see a vegetable or fruit garden in your dream, indicates that your hard work and diligence will pay off in the end. It is also symbolic of stability, potential, and inner growth. You need to cultivate a new skill or nurture your spiritual and personal growth."

fwiw, just my take on it.

 

[tom32071]

Just a couple of thoughts about the dreams - levitating is a bit like flying which in dreams sometimes symbolises freedom. The cross legged blanket position makes me think of the Prayer of the Soul, so maybe this relates to the prayer moving you towards greater freedom. You are not all the way there yet, (didn't go much above ground) and there are obstacles to deal with (red lights, people distracting you).

The second dream follows up the same theme, again you are levitating, this time in a garden. I looked up garden in a dream dictionary and here's what it said:

"To see a vegetable or fruit garden in your dream, indicates that your hard work and diligence will pay off in the end. It is also symbolic of stability, potential, and inner growth. You need to cultivate a new skill or nurture your spiritual and personal growth."

fwiw, just my take on it.

Thanks for your thoughts. Hopefully that is on track. :)

 

[Aliana]

I have been doing the program on Mondays / Thursdays and the POTS and pipe breathing as often as i can. I have not posted an update since Christmas. It felt like the holidays went by in a whirlwind as I spent much of it in frenetic activity.

I finally realized that much of that frenzy was my discomfort at all that I have been seeing. I was squirming while trying to come to terms with things and really not wanting to face facts. It's one thing to know some things on a semi-conscious level, but when I realized i had to not only see these things but DO something to change - I just went into creative frenzy - I rearranged my furniture (several times) as well as doing a lot of other mostly time wasting activities.

I have seen so many programs and am now realizing just how much baggage I have to let go of. Primarily it has been my lack of self-esteem (grew up in a narcissistic family), as well how fear has literally boxed me in for my whole life. No wonder I run in circles!

I have also begun to see more clearly the people around me and how much I have projected onto my friends and family - how much my trying to get them to "wake up" was really just my own way of trying to get me to wake up and do something. I am now trying to be more considerate of their feelings. I have not quite understood why I rarely meet anyone who is not "asleep in the matrix", but I am now thinking that is a mirror of my own level of development. I think perhaps that when I achieve a certain level of Being and wakefulness, that will change.

Did not mean for this to be a long post, just a check-in. Although often when I think about posting, it feels like pushing a large rock through an ocean of molasses, I am still here and trying to forge ahead.
Aleana

 

[henry]

Noticed one thing though: last night and the night before (at least), although I lied down very late and had been pretty tired, couldn't fall asleep for quite some time (more than an hour for sure). Mind kept working and thoughts jumping here and there. Mostly about what I should have done or should do, i.e. analyzing and planning.
I usually do only a couple of pipe breaths before POTS, not the whole 3-stage breathing in the evenings before going to bed...

Any thoughts or advices about that? :/

I had a period when I found I couldn't sleep after doing the full programme. I then did it earlier in the day and didn't have the problem. Last night I did it right before sleeping, and then went to sleep very quickly. So I would suggest you try doing it for awhile earlier in the day if it is possible. After you are done processing whatever it is you are processing at the moment, you may be able to start doing it again right before sleeping.

 

[sitta]

Every time i read this thread i have the urge to meditate (and very often do in between posts. )

Most of the time i do the pipe breathing and meditation before sleep. Very often i just slip into sleep doing it actually. I just listen to cd that i have burned which contain some 90 tracks (pipe breathing, warrior's breath, BaHa part, intro to POTS, POTS, POTS, POTS ... some 80 times and post meditation music).
I always take care to meditate for at least one full POTS repeat. If i'm very tired then after first full POTS portion i just drift to sleep with headphones on listening to the cd.

I have couple phisical occurences during meditations for about a week, week and a half. Most notable was pain in my right shoulder and lesser pain in left forearm.

As for dreams i have some every night. None are about my family (those were often the last time i reported). There were two that i remember very well.
In the first dream i was in a home of a cass member in a foreign country in a city with big river. There was a small group of other cass members and we were making a presentation. The atmosphere was so warm, welcoming and full of understanding. In the next scene i was in my country in a little village not very far from my home town (30-40 km). I wanted to catch a bus home but none went there. A bus driver told me that he can make a detour and take me to a small town that had far more opportunities to find transport to my destination. I agreed. I woke up during the trip.
In the second dream i was on high bank of a lake. Someone wanted to capture me but i didn't want that so i jumped from that bank and flew above black waters of the lake to the other side an started to climb a hill. Then i woke up.

...
'unexpectedly' my mother showed an interest just one day before I leave Japan.
...
So I practiced with her together for just pipe breathing and gave a copied CD to her. I hope we can practice together when I move back to Japan in early this Summer.

I had similar experience with my mom when i was home for the holidays. She was interested in pipe breathing and meditation. We watched together Laura's new intro (which i translated for my mother because she don't know english) then started practice pipe breathing. Tomorrow i'm going home for winter break and we start on the meditation part :)

 

[Avi]

I had a strange experience recently. After finishing the whole program, I rolled over on to my side, closed my eyes and tried to go to sleep. Suddenly I was in a clearing in a forest or jungle. There was some sort of black and white animal in front of me. Maybe a large dog or big cat? Anyway, it saw me and came charging at me. As it leaped to attack me, I freaked out and opened my eyes! Later that night I had a dream that I was standing in the clouds watching shamans pull forum members up into the clouds, where they were giving them some sort of initiation..

I once had a similar experience, though not E/E related. This was in 2007 before I found this forum. Was undergoing heavy stress at work and conflict in relationship.

In the dream, which really did seem as real as day, a wolf appeared and, snarling with fangs bared, leaped right AT ME. I woke up a bit frantic right as it was about to 'get' me.

Last sentence applies to what later transpired in relationship as well.

 

[abstract]

was just thinking something like this myself. It's like as the network grows and more and more people are practising it, it magnifies the effect of the EE program.

I agree, if i do a session on monday or thursday, it always seems to work better than other days! I had a fabulous session last monday i believe, just basking in relaxation and comfort. :)

 

[Buddy]

I haven't posted to this thread in a while, even though I continue to do the EE regularly. Basically, I haven't had any major emotional releases lately...just a couple of oddities here and there.

Like last night, after the PoTS and while lying in bed ready for sleep, I closed my eyes and it was if I hadn't closed my eyes at all. It seemed I could still see the outlines of the furniture in the room. I had to open my eyes just to find out if I had closed them!

The last couple of nights in a row, I would step outside to get some fresh air before bed time. It's my habit to look up at the stars and enjoy the crisp, clear air, beautiful bright moon and whatnot, but it seemed that I kept seeing small balls of light up in the air darting back and forth, but gone before I could focus on them.

Other than that, there's even been a few times when it was extremely easy for me to fall asleep quickly, if I kept my eyes open and stayed focussed on the interior of my bedroom without any mental chatter. As soon as my thoughts stopped and I wasn't thinking about myself - just focussed 'externally', I was out like a light.

 

[hukka]

I had a strange experience recently. After finishing the whole program, I rolled over on to my side, closed my eyes and tried to go to sleep. Suddenly I was in a clearing in a forest or jungle. There was some sort of black and white animal in front of me. Maybe a large dog or big cat? Anyway, it saw me and came charging at me. As it leaped to attack me, I freaked out and opened my eyes! Later that night I had a dream that I was standing in the clouds watching shamans pull forum members up into the clouds, where they were giving them some sort of initiation..

I had a similar dream a couple of days ago. A large black and white cat tried to attack me but I, along with the people I was with - whom I didn't know but I get the feeling they were native to whichever country the dream was in - managed to successfully fight the cat. After that one of the people said that there was something special about me (I am not certain of the exact wording, and he didn't specify what exactly supposedly was so special), and gave me a necklace of some sort. The dream ended there.

I don't think this was related to EE though, as the only thing I've managed to do so far is a few instances of pipe breathing.

 

[Human]

Thanks Galahad for your advice...

I had a period when I found I couldn't sleep after doing the full programe. I then did it earlier in the day and didn't have the problem. Last night I did it right before sleeping, and then went to sleep very quickly. So I would suggest you try doing it for awhile earlier in the day if it is possible. After you are done processing whatever it is you are processing at the moment, you may be able to start doing it again right before sleeping.

Last night it was a little bit better, it took me only some half an hour to fall asleep. :)

Like last night, after the PoTS and while lying in bed ready for sleep, I closed my eyes and it was if I hadn't closed my eyes at all. It seemed I could still see the outlines of the furniture in the room. I had to open my eyes just to find out if I had closed them!

Yesterday evening during POTS, I experienced something similar. I laid down, closed my eyes, but the images of things in the room around me remained in front of my eyes. It was like watching them through some kind of a transparent veil.

Shortly after POTS, I laid down in bed (I practice the EE program usually on couch in living room, late in the evening during week days when my wife is already gone to sleep, because she feels irritated by my sounds of loud breathing) and continued the training of the brain muscle all the way while waiting to fall asleep.

Except, together with "let it flow" I added "no need to help and do something for other people; they'll ask if they want and need help; if doing something, do it for yourself, help yourself...". Maybe this has helped to fall asleep faster.

It seems to me like I'm dealing with a self-importance issues, and that "problem" was presented to me shortly after I had arrived here on this forum. I thought I had it under control since, but it looks like I can't control that, I have to acknowledge it, really understand it and dissolve it. At least I think so.

And there is also the urge to "do" something to be excepted and appreciated. This "doing", when accomplished, just boosts the self-importance feature... At least it looks that way to me... :/

 

[mkrnhr]

Yesterday during the meditation I didn't zone-out and my thoughts did not go right and left as usual, I went very concentrated on both the breathing and the POTS. After that I couldn't sleep so I started just breathing and reciting the POTS in my mind having the eyes closed as usual. Then suddenly, the usual green and violet random lights started to form shapes and from time to time I had a bright image, very clear. But it was like tuning a TV. I saw what seemed to be an egyptian queen, a spaceship (yes I know..), some strange cities, and a few faces. But it lasted a few seconds and then the usual random clouds came back again. Could it be a sort of semi-dream state or just some rational constructions of random thoughts from the subconcious?
I also noticed that I can remember that I dreamed only when I do the meditation alone, when I do the whole program it's often like a jump in time from the night to the morning.

 

[RedFox]

Then suddenly, the usual green and violet random lights started to form shapes and from time to time I had a bright image, very clear. But it was like tuning a TV. I saw what seemed to be an egyptian queen, a spaceship (yes I know..), some strange cities, and a few faces. But it lasted a few seconds and then the usual random clouds came back again. Could it be a sort of semi-dream state or just some rational constructions of random thoughts from the subconcious?

Hi mkrnhr
My understanding is that this is a normal experience. Laura mentioned trying to hold onto the 'light' with your mind if you see it.
As to the random images, your description of 'But it was like tuning a TV' is pretty accurate or so I think. You will more than likely get more random images until you are more tuned in. From what I've read of shamanic experiences here on the forum these random images do seem to be part of the initial experience.
One thing these images do seem to have in common is they are quite 'new age', but they should pass as you progress deeper/tune in more. :)