Éiriú-Eolas - Breathing Program

[Niall]

Thanks for sharing that experience. It's very interesting because just yesterday I was reading on the net about 'shadow people' and this seems to be a very common phenomenon. You can find a thread on that in the forum.

Maybe an inner battle of sorts?

Logos5x5, I was just reading about Pai's strange experience here. A combination of pipe breathing and POTS also helped him get through it.

 

[Nienna]

Thanks for the input Nienna Eluch and I agree. After reading the Cassiopea Glossary term for signal to noise ratio, I realized that I indeed was creating noise. So I just wanted to sincerely apologize to the forum for the noise that I created above.

I don't think it was noise. And I'm glad you brought it up here. Networking is what we are all about. Yes, there are some things that are just noise, but when we are dealing with our lives and choices that can have a detrimental affect on them, getting answers from the "Network" is most important in order to "see" what is really going on and to decide which way to go. And, there can be learning for others in the discussion.

So I don't think you have anything to apologize for. :)

 

[Turgon]

After thinking for a while, I’ve decided not to take the opportunity, I tried looking at the situation in every angle I could. The first main reason why I decided this was not for me, was that this whole situation felt like an attack. The second reason was that it was just my mechanical mechanisms at work, for the most part. Then third being that it would take a lot of my energy and time away from working on myself. After making this decision it feels like Ive lost a big opportunity or chance in my life, I believe that this is also my predator at work again. Time was also something that I considered while making this decision, time is running out fast and I need to give it my all, in order to make the most progress I can with helping myself and others. So now I need to get refocused on the destination that I intend to reach, home. Thanks for reading.
(If mods want to move this post, please do)

That bolded part of your post, Infiniteness, is what I am agreeing with.

Whenever you have a thought similar to that, such as, I'm really missing out on ______________, or, gee, I wish I could be like every one else and _______________, as yourself just what it is you are missing/wishing for. To be like the rest of the sleeping masses? For this is what you predator/programs are trying to drag you back to, going to sleep.

This is just how it looks to me, especially when I hear the old predator saying, "Gee, I could be doing ____________ like "they" are and enjoying myself." I can't think of anything more exciting than learning about myself, helping those who are truly asking and learning about what is really going on on this BBM. To me, this is quite the adventure!

And being alone is just a concept of the predator. We are not, in actuality alone. For one thing, we have this forum, and I think by participating on this forum, we are connecting in ways that we haven't discovered yet. This collinearity is something that is becoming far more intimate than anything that I could have with someone not in this group. The chemicals and hormones that make us "want" to be with someone that is not going in the same direction we are, to me, are very dangerous to what we are trying to accomplish with ourselves. But that's just me. Also, any hour of the day/night, there will be someone here. Not tangible and face to face, I know, but I don't think it is necessary at this stage of the game. What we are trying to do at this point in time is to clean our machine from these negative thought loops and programs that are keeping us prisoner here. That takes time to do and if we are distracted by someone who wants all of our attention and time, when will we be able to do this?

This is just my take on it at this time. :)

I too have been having relationship concerns. It seems since I've started detoxing, my chemical urges have surged along with potential opportunities with women I've recently met. It's been a strange mix of either anxiety/fear of intimacy based upon the assumption that it will automatically lead to a feeding situation or thinking that I need to do something about my fear of intimacy so I should go through with it.

Either one seems like the predator at work causing me to get all confused and focused way too much on getting into a relationship. Although I may be wrong. It just seems as if I'll be "alone" in that sense the rest of my life. This line of thinking is also related to my parents and family putting pressure on me. Not major pressure, but always hearing the little comments here and there 'when are you getting married' 'your going to be 30 soon, you don't have a lot of time'. Don't have a lot of time for what???

Is it my self-importance kicking in if these comments which normally roll off my back are now really getting to me. I'm starting to get very offended lately by the smallest things and I don't know why.

I've been observing myself when this happens and it seems I automatically feel like I'm being attacked and need to defend myself in some way, which in turn activates my anger, which is further justified by my belief that the other person is the one being internally considerate, when in reality, by being so angry about the comments being directed towards me, I'm being internally considerate regardless of whether the other person is or isn't.

 

[Oxajil]

I too have been having relationship concerns. It seems since I've started detoxing, my chemical urges have surged along with potential opportunities with women I've recently met. It's been a strange mix of either anxiety/fear of intimacy based upon the assumption that it will automatically lead to a feeding situation or thinking that I need to do something about my fear of intimacy so I should go through with it.

Fwiw, I don't think there is a 'need' (in this context). You have the power to choose above your predator. If your learning self sees this as a challenge and is prepared to take all responsibility for himself whatever the outcome, then you could go for it. But try to make it a conscious choice, think it over, perhaps write for yourself the cons and pros.
But reading about your self-importance and anger, it seems to me that perhaps you're not ready for it yet?

Either one seems like the predator at work causing me to get all confused and focused way too much on getting into a relationship. Although I may be wrong. It just seems as if I'll be "alone" in that sense the rest of my life. This line of thinking is also related to my parents and family putting pressure on me. Not major pressure, but always hearing the little comments here and there 'when are you getting married' 'your going to be 30 soon, you don't have a lot of time'. Don't have a lot of time for what???

Just say 'soon enough'. Don't worry about them and don't worry about being lonely. Who knows who you will find along your path.
My parents once came with a picture of a guy and told me if I'd be interested, so yeah I kinda know what you mean. But just stay cool you know, it's important to know what you want. What do you want?

Is it my self-importance kicking in if these comments which normally roll off my back are now really getting to me. I'm starting to get very offended lately by the smallest things and I don't know why.

I've been observing myself when this happens and it seems I automatically feel like I'm being attacked and need to defend myself in some way, which in turn activates my anger, which is further justified by my belief that the other person is the one being internally considerate, when in reality, by being so angry about the comments being directed towards me, I'm being internally considerate regardless of whether the other person is or isn't.

Well there is something to concentrate on rather than on a relationship, imo. Maybe punching a pillow could help whenever you feel that anger rising up or writing down everything you feel angry about. You could take time-outs and do some belly breathing or pipe breathing.

Maybe after a full EE session, when you lay down for the meditation you will be able to think about your situation more clearly, and your wants and needs.

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It's sad to feel lonely. I guess it could be different doing something you like with the, let's say ''love of your life'', than doing it alone. It's sad to not have that physical touch, perhaps or that emotional understanding. But sometimes you just gotta sacrifice some needs you know and have faith in the Universe. Atleast, that is what I have chosen to do, but I also remain open for what is to come. And we have this family of course. Try to realize, as Nienna said, that you're not alone in reality. In "fact", you have the whole Universe 'in front of you' and 'with you'.
We all have our lessons to learn. Take care.

 

[Luis Miguel]

[...]Other forum members have shared similar experiences, however I have (thankfully!) not experienced anything like this. On those times I realize had gone to sleep and wake up in the middle of the night (after doing EE), I just go back to sleep again.

I think Laura mentioned in one of the threads that this was a result of doing the EE, and that the phenomenon may be part of you in some way, rather than something external.

Hope that helps :)

Thank you for the info moksha :).

Logos5x5, I was just reading about Pai's strange experience here. A combination of pipe breathing and POTS also helped him get through it.

Thanks for the link kniall, very helpful indeed. There's a lot to observe and consider.

Edit: Open quote tag.

 

[mada85]

I would like to invite forum members to contribute brief realistic descriptions of their experiences with the Éiriú Eolas program. I want to gather pieces that can be used, either whole or edited, in the Dot Connector magazine or in other media – video for example – as a way of encouraging people to try the program, and to attest to the benefits of EE.

Why 'realistic'? I think that people considering the program need to have a reasonably informed idea of what to expect – physical and emotional cleansing can be pretty intense at times – but practitioners' comments will hopefully make it clear that such cleansing is a step on the pathway to the great benefits of EE. Therefore please include in your account any episodes of emotional or physical cleansing that you feel comfortable sharing, and how these and your EE practice have affected your life.

I'm also interested in your experiences with EE compared to any other meditation or breathing methods you may have tried in the past. For example, EE is proven to facilitate emotional cleansing. How do other meditation techniques compare to EE in this regard? How has EE affected your mental processes and self-knowledge? And how does this compare to any similar effects you may have experienced with other techniques?

Please post your experiences to this thread so that others can read them.

Ideally, we would like to be able to follow each quote with the christian name and profession of the author, to give readers a good impression of the many different types of people who are practicing EE.

If you are not comfortable with revealing your christian name or profession on the open forum, but are happy to see them in the magazine or other media, please send them to me in a PM (Personal Message). If you would prefer to use a pseudonym or your forum name that is completely OK too. Just indicate your preference on your post.

Many thanks in advance for your replies!

 

[Laura]

Endymion, we have a thread for the posting of EE experiences and I'll be moving this post there. I've repeatedly asked for experiences that are not too esoteric to be posted to the EE forum. I don't see much point in triple efforts.

 

[Gawan]

Maybe skip Beatha for the next two sessions and see if that helps?

I give that a go too, thanks.

I have done it today without the beatha part and it was very soothing. And tonight I have been waiting for a good friend, but did the program before it is getting too late and it didn't bother me. Because normally I'm pretty unconcentrated when I'm waiting for someone, but at this time whilst doing the program nothing could "hit" me so to speak, which felt simply good.

Also I experienced an increasing heat during the program in the solar plexus and as well in the upper chest area. All in all my body was pretty heated and when I concentrated on one part of my body then it got warm there too. Besides, what I realised now, sometimes my stomach area gets hot or it feels warm and it is also a little bit uncomfortable and it lasts sometimes many hours after the program. I try to keep an eye on it, when it is happening again.

 

[mada85]

Endymion, we have a thread for the posting of EE experiences and I'll be moving this post there. I've repeatedly asked for experiences that are not too esoteric to be posted to the EE forum. I don't see much point in triple efforts.

Thank you, Laura. I posted to a new thread last night just before I went to bed and it was on my mind all night, feeling that something was not quite right about it, and thinking that while my intention was aligned with the network, my execution of the idea was not. In fact, when I was considering where to place the request, I was rather lost in a kind of resurgence of childhood desire to be a good boy. The main EE thread is a much better place for the post. Many thanks for moving it.

 

[Turgon]

It's sad to feel lonely. I guess it could be different doing something you like with the, let's say ''love of your life'', than doing it alone. It's sad to not have that physical touch, perhaps or that emotional understanding. But sometimes you just gotta sacrifice some needs you know and have faith in the Universe. Atleast, that is what I have chosen to do, but I also remain open for what is to come. And we have this family of course. Try to realize, as Nienna said, that you're not alone in reality. In "fact", you have the whole Universe 'in front of you' and 'with you'.
We all have our lessons to learn. Take care.

This pretty much sums up how I feel sometimes, lonely. But having faith in the Universe, this network and myself will help clear up some of these feelings. I've been thinking about these recent urges along with all my internal anger and self-importance, going over things in my head, wondering if its due to stress, what personality traits I have that are contributing to this that I can work on. Other times just playing scenarios in my head about people that I don't like and asking myself why they are like this. A lot of it was just thought loops and pretty pointless as I would just get angry thinking about them and it would tire me out.

Well there is something to concentrate on rather than on a relationship, imo. Maybe punching a pillow could help whenever you feel that anger rising up or writing down everything you feel angry about. You could take time-outs and do some belly breathing or pipe breathing.

I came up with a few good conclusions like stress, which, even though I'm good at handling stress, when I reach a certain point I get very agitated. And I'm still lacking in understanding other people and their motives. I kind of just expect people to be a certain way, a way that I think is better for them, without fully understanding that we all have our own lessons, will all follow different path's, therefore some will contribute more to the entropic, narcissistic lifestyle and other's are moving away from that. This is sometimes hard to deal with knowing that literally our souls are on the line based on the choices we make and this stresses me out.

I think this is a bit of a controlling nature, which is something I most definitely need to work on. I worry that I'll end up like my grandpa. A very smart, intellectual person, but lacking in emotional understanding of others (always expecting other to be a certain way) and very dominant, rigid and controlling in his marriage. It's probably one of the reasons I cringe at the thought of marriage. I don't want to end up like my grandparents. Unhappy, bitter people.

Yes! Bitterness. I think I get angry because if things don't go my way I get bitter. I just realized this right now! Like Don Juan says "Petty Tyrants take themselves with deadly seriousness while warriors do not!"

And also twice I clearly remember doing the full program and noticing my anger surging not long afterwards. I think EE is bringing this to the surface, and I have to deal with this head on. And I find it coincidental that yesterday was the first time I cried in a very long time and having all this come out now. Even though I did half the program in the morning and the other half in the evening, when I came home from work, my family was huddled together because we found out our cat, Tiger, who's been with us 12 years is dying. Her major organs are failing. My sister and I both shed tears. My sister was no surprise, but I almost couldn't believe how emotional I got learning this. I couldn't hold back my tears and realized how much I love kitty and don't want her to go.

It really puts things into perspective. All the self-importance and anger that takes up my time, when so many important things are right in front of me that I don't truly appreciate having in my life.

Thanks Oxajil

Also, Laura, I'm not sure if this was too esotericy or not, so I kept it here. But from now on, I'll visit the EE forum more often and regulate between what is appropriate EE experiences that should be posted there, and what can be posted here.

 

[zim]

I got sick with a Cold I have the glands of my throat with white parts with infection.
So I could not do breath part. :(

 

[Cosmos]

When I do the "in through the nose and out through the mouth" part, when I breathe out through the mouth do I have to exhale only through the mouth?
Do I have to close the Nose while exhaling?

 

[Beau]

When I do the "in through the nose and out through the mouth" part, when I breathe out through the mouth do I have to exhale only through the mouth?
Do I have to close the Nose while exhaling?

Yes, in through the nose, out through the mouth is how you want to breath through the entire program.

 

[Seamus]

I haven't posted in a few weeks, so just wanted to check in.

I am working 3 part time jobs, as a waiter at a local restaurant one or two nights a week; as an IT technician at a local college 2 days per week; and I am starting my own web design/development business (I've been doing it freelance for about 3 years). I received the July/August Dot Connector magazine and pretty much read it cover to cover. I'm planning to get a subscription after my next payday. I'm currently reading Political Ponerology, the Crack in the Cosmic Egg, Snakes in Suits and Without Conscience (mostly the first 2). I try to read Signs of the Times every day and skim through the current threads on the forum a few times a week.

I practice pipe breathing when I am in the car driving to and from one of my jobs, and at night before POTS when I am going to bed. It is helping me to sleep more soundly and feel more rested in the morning. If I have time I do the simple stretches and some 3 stage breathing in the morning, but I've felt too rushed for the last 2 weeks or so. I have been taking a multi vitamin 2 times per day, plus calcium and magnesium and a B vitamin complex, plus 10 to 15ml of cod liver oil every day. I'm eating mostly chicken, sardines and green vegetables like Kale, Broccoli and simple salads. I go swimming for 20 minutes or so 3 or 4 times a week (I think its going to be too cold soon) and I try to go for a walk on the other days.

Since I haven't been practicing the Beatha round breathing lately it seems like things are moving a little more slowly, and a little more gently. I'm mostly noticing vivid dreams almost every night. Many of the dreams I've been having lately have some erotic content. Many have an element of struggle to them. A few nights ago I woke up in the morning after an intense struggle in my dream in which I felt that someone/thing was trying to keep me asleep and in a room that I didn't want to be in. Finally I was able to leave the room and wake up.

That's all for now! :)
Seamas

 

[seek10]

Endymion, we have a thread for the posting of EE experiences and I'll be moving this post there. I've repeatedly asked for experiences that are not too esoteric to be posted to the EE forum. I don't see much point in triple efforts.

Does this include periodic ( weekly or bi weekly ) status updates too?.