Éiriú-Eolas - Breathing Program

[Seamus]

FWIW I have not been taking 5-HTP lately and I often wake up in the middle of the night as well, usually around 3-3:30. Sometimes its because I have to pee, sometimes not. Last night I woke up 3 or 4 times, once to pee and the rest while dreaming.

 

[seek10]

In my case, I'm conscious. I'm relaxed, post POTS, maybe thinking about my day, the forum, etc. and then bam! I just jump really, my arms and legs move up. It's really surprising.

Funny, last night I had some trouble falling asleep and this happened to me. I was lying on my side and my whole body just jolted. My left arm lifted a foot or so into the air! I had a little laugh and then fell asleep a short time after.

Ok, so it must be contagious because I had one of these jolts during the Ba Ha section whilst laying down last night! My left leg kicked out to the side.
I smiled and carried on with the breathing.

Interesting. Leg kicking happened to me quote a number of times , each time I have vague collection of some dreams or dream like stuff and some times nothing.

 

[Ollie]

I've been waking up at this time too. It was actually worse when I was taking 5-htp because I couldn't fall back to sleep. Since I cut it out I'm able to go back to sleep. I get up at this time due to needing use the bathroom. I was told in a class that not being able to sleep through the night without having to urinate is a sign of adrenal fatigue (since the adrenals sit atop the kidneys and are involved in regulating fluid balance) but I can't find much about it. At any rate, I increased my mag and Bvitamin intake and added adrenal cortex and this middle of the night toileting has decreased.

I need to use the bathroom two to three times a night, and the waking at this time is not to do with needing the bathroom. I note that you have stopped taking 5HTP, increased Mag and Bvit (already high) intake and added adrenal cortex (which one, if I might ask, and when?). According to the quesionnaire result, my adrenal fatigue is mild. I think that the stress level may be do to something else - possible neonatal trauma and denied emotions.

Just curious, for all you who are waking in the middle of the night, when are you taking your 5-HTP?

At lunchtime and teatime. I also drink a lot of water and herbal teas during the day, stopping at teatime.

 

[Tigersoap]

Just curious, for all you who are waking in the middle of the night, when are you taking your 5-HTP?

I usually take it before going to bed.

 

[RedFox]

Just curious, for all you who are waking in the middle of the night, when are you taking your 5-HTP?

I'm not taking any at the moment. But was taking it with my evening meal.
I drink a lot of water throughout the day, but then don't have much after my evening meal (maybe half a glass). I did put it down to taking my pro-biotic before bed, but it seems to the same anyway.....
Only thing I can think of is the high protein diet may be causing it? Or perhaps I'm eating to much for my evening meal?

 

[mada85]

Just curious, for all you who are waking in the middle of the night, when are you taking your 5-HTP?

I can't take HTP because it makes me incredibly sleepy during the day. But I also wake in the night, two or three times, usually from a dream.

I drink a lot of water throughout the day, but then don't have much after my evening meal (maybe half a glass). I did put it down to taking my pro-biotic before bed, but it seems to the same anyway.....
Only thing I can think of is the high protein diet may be causing it? Or perhaps I'm eating to much for my evening meal?

I follow the same drinking pattern as RF, and if I drink anything after my evening meal it will only be a few mouthfuls. I started waking in the night several years ago, usually needing to pee. Eating a few bites of a snack that contains fats, just before retiring (as suggested by James W Wilson) helps me to sleep better, and go back to sleep more easily when I do wake, as there is not that feeling of hunger that can keep me awake.

RF, I think it's quite possible that a high protein diet can cause excess urination. The following quote is from MedicineNet at: _http://www.medicinenet.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=50900. I experienced this problem myself. While doing the ultra simple diet, I was consuming two tablespoons daily of hemp protein powder, which is that recommended amount on the pack. There was no mention on the pack of excess consumption. My urine became very dark regardless of the quantity of water I drank, I had a slight but constant ache in my kidneys, and I had muscular stiffness. At one point it was difficult to even turn my head fully to each side. It was not until I cut out the hemp protein powder from my diet that things returned to normal, which took a few weeks as the ketones were slowly flushed out of my system. I also took a Chinese herbal remedy called 'Six Flavour Tea Pills' or 'Liu Wei Di Huang Wan' for a couple of weeks which supported the restoration of my kidney function.

[ . . . ] a diet in which protein makes up more than 30% of your caloric intake causes a buildup of toxic ketones. So-called ketogenic diets can thrust your kidneys into overdrive in order to flush these ketones from your body. As your kidneys rid your body of these toxic ketones, you can lose a significant amount of water, which puts you at risk of dehydration, particularly if you exercise heavily.

That water loss often shows up on the scale as weight loss. But along with losing water, you lose muscle mass and bone calcium. The dehydration also strains your kidneys and puts stress on your heart.

And dehydration from a ketogenic diet can make you feel weak and dizzy, give you bad breath, or lead to other problems.

 

[Mrs.Tigersoap]

One day, we'll all by gyrating and spasming in total unison!

Jeez, what a sight it will be! :D

 

[Mrs. Peel]

Just curious, for all you who are waking in the middle of the night, when are you taking your 5-HTP?

I usually take it before going to bed.

Me too. I can't take it during the day, even with food, cause I fall asleep at my desk during work. I've been waking up multiple times during the night to use the bathroom ever since I was a kid. Doesn't matter how much I do or do not drink before bed. I've also been taking B vitamins and Mag, and was doing adrenal cortex for a while. Didn't make any difference.

Funny, after reading about it here, I did the leg jerk thing the other night night as I was falling asleep. I was having those random images floating around in my mind and I think I imagined I'd stepped on something, and it manifest in the physical jerk. First time that happened in a long time.

 

[mada85]

I used to have jerking legs or body as I was falling asleep, nearly every night, but in recent years it has diminished. It was usually accompanied by a sort of half dream of walking along and then tripping over something or stumbling into a hole in the pavement.

And now for an EE update :)

I've been experiencing longer episodes of zoning out, beginning after one or two lines of the POTS, and only coming back to myself near the end of the music. I don't remember anything from these journeys yet. Sometimes there does seem to be a suggestion that some slight awareness continues, but that might be wishful thinking!

A while back a few people mentioned seeing in their mind's eye white smoke rising from their body while doing EE. Nearly every morning while doing three stage breathing for the past week or so, I see, in my mind's eye, not white smoke but a kind of vapour rising from my body. I don't know yet what this signifies – it looks in my mind like heatwaves rising from the desert floor.

I haven't had any major emotional releases recently, but steady regular practice of EE is creating in me a new awareness of programs, the ability to remember myself when programs arise, and the ability to observe them more clearly. It's a slow and steady progression, but the destination is currently unknown. This morning I got up feeling really quite tired and heavy, a kind of negative emotional congested tiredness, if that makes sense. I thought it could be related to my inner child, so I called for him and understood that the tiredness was my inner child's fear of exploring. I felt that as a result of EE practice I am in completely uncharted waters, and this is what scares the inner child. So I took the child's hand, and told him that I will be looking after him as we explore these uncharted regions together. I talked to him for a few minutes, and then had a lovely image in my mind of me holding my child self by the hand as he skipped along beside me.

I just want to add that the EE program is the only meditation technique I have tried that really works. It's really amazing! A big thank you to Laura for making it available!

One day, we'll all by gyrating and spasming in total unison!

Jeez, what a sight it will be! :D

We might even have unforeseen non-linear effects on the Earth's rotation!!

 

[theos]

I've been waking up at this time too. It was actually worse when I was taking 5-htp because I couldn't fall back to sleep. Since I cut it out I'm able to go back to sleep. I get up at this time due to needing use the bathroom. I was told in a class that not being able to sleep through the night without having to urinate is a sign of adrenal fatigue (since the adrenals sit atop the kidneys and are involved in regulating fluid balance) but I can't find much about it. At any rate, I increased my mag and Bvitamin intake and added adrenal cortex and this middle of the night toileting has decreased.

I need to use the bathroom two to three times a night, and the waking at this time is not to do with needing the bathroom. I note that you have stopped taking 5HTP, increased Mag and Bvit (already high) intake and added adrenal cortex (which one, if I might ask, and when?). According to the quesionnaire result, my adrenal fatigue is mild. I think that the stress level may be do to something else - possible neonatal trauma and denied emotions.

I'm taking American Biologics brand adrenal cortex. It has mag stearate but was all I could find at the time. I take it either with dinner or right before bed.

Funny, I woke up around 4am this morning and didn't have to go to the bathroom. I was able to sleep/cat nap until my wake up time.

 

[herondancer]

Most of my EE sessions are pretty peaceful. Some colour blobs, some extra-deep 'settling' in the body, which is accompanied by the perception of Laura's voice getting louder, even though the volume setting hasn't changed.

Last night was interesting. I've been recovering from a bout of larygitis, which I think was brought on by pushing my detox regime a bit too hard. I was in the middle of the Prayer, when I felt a thin, fiery (but not unpleasant) line developing from my left temple down the side of my face to the jaw. A little knowledge being a dangerous thing, the thought of "trigeminal nerve?" then "Bell's palsy???" jumped into my head, since I've known a couple of people who've had it. But they always said it came on without warning. (Nothing like imagining the worst ) In any case, I was observing it calmly, and it faded by the end of the session. There's still a faint echo of it today. I looked up the nerve, but while it does enervate that area, the actual anatomical location depicted for the branches didn't match the sensation.

Has anyone had something like this?

 

[truth seeker]

I was in the middle of the Prayer, when I felt a thin, fiery (but not unpleasant) line developing from my left temple down the side of my face to the jaw. A little knowledge being a dangerous thing, the thought of "trigeminal nerve?" then "Bell's palsy???" jumped into my head, since I've known a couple of people who've had it. But they always said it came on without warning. (Nothing like imagining the worst ) In any case, I was observing it calmly, and it faded by the end of the session. There's still a faint echo of it today. I looked up the nerve, but while it does enervate that area, the actual anatomical location depicted for the branches didn't match the sensation.

Has anyone had something like this?

I have. It can also move in the opposite direction or different parts of the body and head (from my experience). As far as I know, I don't have any brain damage!

 

[Bobo08]

Last weekend, I had an interesting dream. In the dream, I was coming home to my parents' house (as if I'd always been living there). The house is located in a poor, crowded and dirty section of the city. On the way, I suddenly noticed that the houses in front of my parents' house were being demolished. Looking through the half-demolished walls, I saw a large lake, or a sea, that had never been there and beautiful boats floating on it. I was almost overwhelmed with emotion upon seeing that. Then I noticed the houses that were being demolished were not actually houses at all, but were just a front facade (like what they have in movie studios). When I arrived home, it was not a small box-like house that used to be, but a rural-styled house with a large front yard and a garden, which I've always dreamed of living in. The only problem was that the electricity was being cut (typical of the rural area in my country), and my father was trying to rig a connection to the power pole in front of the house. I woke up at that instance.

I understand that the house in a dream is usually symbolized self. So this dream seems to be quite significant. It also seems to be related to the EE practice that I've been doing regularly. So I think I should report it here.

 

[Ollie]

Hi Bobo08
Dream action is about the dynamics of your own life (hopes, fears, questions, conflicts, way out of difficulties, possibilities, etc.) The dream action may use images from experiences of the previous day or so before, as well as others. The dream symbols may be both literal and symbolic interpretations – be curious and naïve in your interpretation.

Here are some questions to ask your-self, they may help. Or not.

When you re-experience the experiences in the dream, do they remind you of anything in life?

The setting, what does it feel like there? Does it remind you of anything in current life, any situation in life?

Who is ‘my father’ (tell me on the basis that I don’t know ‘ my father’), what is ‘my father’ like? What kind of personality? What does ‘my father’ mean to you? What kind of person might you consider ‘my father’ to be like?

What is ‘my father’ like in your dream?

What is your working, etc., relationship with ‘my father’ like?

Is there some part of you that is like ‘my father’?

Positive characters are about strengths and achievements.
Negative characters represent conflicts in life (personification of attitudes, beliefs, habits, etc)

What does ‘beautiful boats’ mean to you? How do they ‘work’? What are they used for? (ask on the basis that I know nothing about it)

What is the half demolished walls’ like in your dream? How do you feel about it?

Ask similar questions about ‘front facade, ‘large front yard and a garden’, ‘electricity’, ‘connection’, ‘power pole’.

Imagery is often idiosyncratic yet culturally moulded, for example Victorian houses suggest attitudes held are Victorian, and might be those of the dreamer.

Rooms suggest areas of concern – living = daily living; bed = private, tranquillity, sex, refreshment, etc; basement/attic = concerns or values, unconscious, forgotten, rejected

Water is about emotions and spirit of life

Cars represent the physical body or ways of getting around in life – personality, drive, ambition, etc. (Boats may be similar?)

The action, events in the dream, what do they remind you of in your waking life?

Think about the dream as you go through the day, and test insights and ideas gained. Understand obvious metaphors. Keep using language and images of dream whenever possible. Interpretations may spring to light. String descriptions together to bridge dream experience to any situation in life. (Ref: adapted from Living Your Dreams by Gayle Delaney)

This may help, or not.

 

[Learner]

An update on EE since two weeks back into full program:

I still have problems with the regularity, but I try to stick to two times a week.

After some sessions, I felt quite relaxed and everything what seems to be turmoil in my actual life, felt like "My own problems don't really matter on a deeper level. It will all evolve by its own time. DCM will be with me, whatever choice I will make. Because it is all lessons." Besides anxiety regarding my graduation from university, there are also life and relationship issues, that haunt me since several months already. I have also started to ask DCM, to clear my eyes in order to see to the core of my personal problems and to help me make the wisest steps, that need to be done right now. So, there is lots of stress (or so it feels for me) and sometimes I feel like I will go crazy, but there's one part of me that whispers, that it will all be sorted out, there will be a solution, that will come by time with certain measure of investment by my own. And even if I make a "false" step, it has the chance to be recognized as lesson by me, if my eyes will be clear enough to see afterwards. I am going to network about it, but I actually don't really know, on which end to start with this. EE is a huge help, that keeps the stress level deep enough for me to move on in my life. Today I am feeling more relaxed, after EE session. I had very stiffy hands after the BAHA part. I couldn't move them first and it felt like they were pasted on my legs, where I had lain them. After I could move them again, there was a lot of warmth in them and I felt some heat in the body. That was during the POTS part.

Bobo08, I also had a dream of my parent's house some days ago. It was about the cellar, which was dark and looked like a maze. Many people, who were alcohol and drug addicts, thieves etc. lived in there. After waking up, I thought immediately, that it is about myself - the buried things in the subconciousness, that are denied. Through EE in general, things that are denied, can be brought up in subconcious. I think, Trevrizent gave good suggestions how to approach these things. The thread Dream Work also provides useful information, about how to use dreams in the sense of the Work and also in connection to EE.

My two cents :)