Éiriú-Eolas - Breathing Program
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Iron
Dagobah Resident
Puzzle said:
I used the english prayer almost exclusively for almost a year, and it was still beneficial. Maybe because I have a good grasp of the language, being able to "think" in english. Or maybe the prayer transcend words and the effect is more due to the meanings involved. Dont know.
Me too, in the movie stuff. I used to be a rather "gory" and cold person, in that I could endure any gruesome movie. Not anymore. I feel like I was the one suffering, I wonder if the killed person has a family, and how they would do without him, and all those considerations that ruin a gore movie :)
Thebull said:
Hi Thebull,
yes, the pipe breathing especially is for detoxing the body. Here's from the EE website:
(bold mine)
Have you had a look into the diet yet? Making changes in your diet, that is, leaving out the toxic food, will help your body additionally in detoxifying.
I personally had no difficulties when I was using the freely available version of the program, so I hope someone else can help you out with that.
ignis.intimus
Jedi Council Member
I just finished an EE session and it was good, peaceful and steady.
I have had a a handful of emotional/physical releases in the past couple of weeks. Some areas in my upper-back, neck, base of my head, and my jaw have all released to a degree during periods of belly-breathing/meditation and experiencing powerful emotions. It was helpful initially from the perspective of reducing pain/stress/tension, but I had little time to rest or enjoy it. My jaw released in a big way earlier this week, or the end of the last - I can't remember when exactly. I felt a small electrical charge course through the muscles in my jaw and spiral out a bit, bringing with it an immediate relaxing of my jaw muscles. Several days ago I woke up with pretty bad jaw/mouth/head pain, mostly on the right side. The pain is some of, if not the, worst pain I have ever felt in my life. I really feel (now) for people with chronic tooth/mouth pain, it is next to impossible to think or do anything with that kind of pain right up against your brain like that.
I couldn't even move my mouth without pain, because my right cheek had swollen so much it was being constantly pressed against my crooked wisdom tooth. So whenever my cheeks moved they were being scraped against one of the sharp points on that tooth. After a day the swelling went down, and my cheek is no longer being stabbed. But pain deep inside my jaw and mouth and head has gotten and is getting worse. It is so bad that sometimes I have to lay down, and earlier in the kitchen I got hit with a wave that made me light-headed and washed every thought in my head away with it's pain. At times the pain is really incredible. A big source of the tension seems to be the muscle that connects my mandible (lower jaw) to my skull. I have worked (pseudo-massaged) on this muscle a few times since then. All I have to do is press firmly upon this muscle with one finger, inside my mouth, and I am hit with a pain that could take me to the floor. I do this sitting down, and can press on it for maybe 30 seconds, before I feel like I am going to pass out. Immediately after I have to lay down for about 15minutes and do some belly-breathing. I always feel better afterwards for it though.
Despite the pain and discomfort, this is really quite a boon for me. I have been a conscious jaw clencher most of my life, and have built up a tremendous amount of tension there as a result, and locked it in with emotional trauma. The emotional connection between whatever was released and my jaw is not as clear to me as it has been some times in the past, but no matter. A release is a release and I will take it as-is. The boon is that now I can work with all of this pain, work through it and out of my body. Amazingly, my jaw never really bothered me before, aside from the crooked wisdom teeth I have. I also have only had a headache maybe twice in my life, aside from brain-freeze and hangovers. And yet, under the surface was a whole world of pain, most of it physical, that I simply did not have access to. And now I do.
I have another Rolfing appointment in a couple of weeks, and I will be asking him to focus on my head and jaw muscles. Rolfers will also work inside of your mouth, using a glove. I am looking forward to that session, even though I know I am going to be in for one hell of a ride if he does focus on that area. I have only begun to feel my right jaw pain, and I can tell my atlas/axis are off in a big way, so there is a lot more pain in store for me. My body knows best I suppose, because it seems to be doling it out to me in chunks I can actually digest. If there were a magic button to release all of the pain in my head at once, then it would surely be labeled Madness because that's exactly what would come from it.
I am not sure how this will pan out in the end, part of me entertains the idea that once I work through all of this tension, after a few years my wisdom teeth might fall back into position enough so they are not an issue. I may have to get braces or something, but I think it's best that I resolve all of this tension first. Until then, steady as she goes. :)
I have had a a handful of emotional/physical releases in the past couple of weeks. Some areas in my upper-back, neck, base of my head, and my jaw have all released to a degree during periods of belly-breathing/meditation and experiencing powerful emotions. It was helpful initially from the perspective of reducing pain/stress/tension, but I had little time to rest or enjoy it. My jaw released in a big way earlier this week, or the end of the last - I can't remember when exactly. I felt a small electrical charge course through the muscles in my jaw and spiral out a bit, bringing with it an immediate relaxing of my jaw muscles. Several days ago I woke up with pretty bad jaw/mouth/head pain, mostly on the right side. The pain is some of, if not the, worst pain I have ever felt in my life. I really feel (now) for people with chronic tooth/mouth pain, it is next to impossible to think or do anything with that kind of pain right up against your brain like that.
I couldn't even move my mouth without pain, because my right cheek had swollen so much it was being constantly pressed against my crooked wisdom tooth. So whenever my cheeks moved they were being scraped against one of the sharp points on that tooth. After a day the swelling went down, and my cheek is no longer being stabbed. But pain deep inside my jaw and mouth and head has gotten and is getting worse. It is so bad that sometimes I have to lay down, and earlier in the kitchen I got hit with a wave that made me light-headed and washed every thought in my head away with it's pain. At times the pain is really incredible. A big source of the tension seems to be the muscle that connects my mandible (lower jaw) to my skull. I have worked (pseudo-massaged) on this muscle a few times since then. All I have to do is press firmly upon this muscle with one finger, inside my mouth, and I am hit with a pain that could take me to the floor. I do this sitting down, and can press on it for maybe 30 seconds, before I feel like I am going to pass out. Immediately after I have to lay down for about 15minutes and do some belly-breathing. I always feel better afterwards for it though.
Despite the pain and discomfort, this is really quite a boon for me. I have been a conscious jaw clencher most of my life, and have built up a tremendous amount of tension there as a result, and locked it in with emotional trauma. The emotional connection between whatever was released and my jaw is not as clear to me as it has been some times in the past, but no matter. A release is a release and I will take it as-is. The boon is that now I can work with all of this pain, work through it and out of my body. Amazingly, my jaw never really bothered me before, aside from the crooked wisdom teeth I have. I also have only had a headache maybe twice in my life, aside from brain-freeze and hangovers. And yet, under the surface was a whole world of pain, most of it physical, that I simply did not have access to. And now I do.
I have another Rolfing appointment in a couple of weeks, and I will be asking him to focus on my head and jaw muscles. Rolfers will also work inside of your mouth, using a glove. I am looking forward to that session, even though I know I am going to be in for one hell of a ride if he does focus on that area. I have only begun to feel my right jaw pain, and I can tell my atlas/axis are off in a big way, so there is a lot more pain in store for me. My body knows best I suppose, because it seems to be doling it out to me in chunks I can actually digest. If there were a magic button to release all of the pain in my head at once, then it would surely be labeled Madness because that's exactly what would come from it.
I am not sure how this will pan out in the end, part of me entertains the idea that once I work through all of this tension, after a few years my wisdom teeth might fall back into position enough so they are not an issue. I may have to get braces or something, but I think it's best that I resolve all of this tension first. Until then, steady as she goes. :)
Mostly this week, I’ve had dry eyes as I do the three stage breathing and PotS. What I’ve noticed more than anything else, and more so than usual, is that during PotS my self-talk is intruding more, as is dissociating - in the form of drifting off into realms of fantasy – until I pull it back and focus back on Laura’s voice. :)
Hi to all EE folks,
Last 6 months were extremely stressful period for my whole family, I guess we all have pretty nasty periods in our lives but sometimes seems like we are pushed over limits. I commenced to work with new company, doing long hours and paid less than stated in pre-contract and finally I had to finish contract before the time because of sinuses infection and operation, my grand pa is fighting with prostate cancer, my mom is having problem with angina pectoris and my dad is paraplegic, so when mom is hospitalized my dad needs to be hospitalized as well, as I said not a nice period.
My husband and I commenced with EE and detox in January 2010, in the beginning it was pretty challenging to learn to breath as depicted in program, and it was a bit harder to forget about coffee and sweets, that was in beginning, right now, I'm grateful for the gift of EE, detox and Laura's diet and recipes (THANKS LAURA and Forum members), seems like EE become crucial part of our lives, and enhanced us in positive way. How do I know that? Before when I was under extreme stress I tend to block my self like to be totally paralysed with stress, or I cried for hours because I felt helpless. I noticed EE made us more tranquil and peacefull and energized us to the max. I don't say it hurt less than before, perhaps even more but the difference is now in determination to solve problems and work in network. I sincerely hope other trainees of EE felt the similar changes because it really helps during stress bombardment. I'm particularly connected with the 3 stage breathing and Warrior breath and the POTS, absolutely amazing part of the program. Most interesting are health benefits, normalizations of blood pressure, cholesterol and sugar in blood, migraine pains reliefs and distress, both my husband and I noticed these changes. Another one thing, if I skip even one session of EE, I'm having craving like I have craving for chocolate (yes, I'm still eating dark chocolate, can't say good buy to this delicious thing), and the only thing I could do than is to do EE and feel content and energized.
EE is wonderful program and everybody should try it.
Last 6 months were extremely stressful period for my whole family, I guess we all have pretty nasty periods in our lives but sometimes seems like we are pushed over limits. I commenced to work with new company, doing long hours and paid less than stated in pre-contract and finally I had to finish contract before the time because of sinuses infection and operation, my grand pa is fighting with prostate cancer, my mom is having problem with angina pectoris and my dad is paraplegic, so when mom is hospitalized my dad needs to be hospitalized as well, as I said not a nice period.
My husband and I commenced with EE and detox in January 2010, in the beginning it was pretty challenging to learn to breath as depicted in program, and it was a bit harder to forget about coffee and sweets, that was in beginning, right now, I'm grateful for the gift of EE, detox and Laura's diet and recipes (THANKS LAURA and Forum members), seems like EE become crucial part of our lives, and enhanced us in positive way. How do I know that? Before when I was under extreme stress I tend to block my self like to be totally paralysed with stress, or I cried for hours because I felt helpless. I noticed EE made us more tranquil and peacefull and energized us to the max. I don't say it hurt less than before, perhaps even more but the difference is now in determination to solve problems and work in network. I sincerely hope other trainees of EE felt the similar changes because it really helps during stress bombardment. I'm particularly connected with the 3 stage breathing and Warrior breath and the POTS, absolutely amazing part of the program. Most interesting are health benefits, normalizations of blood pressure, cholesterol and sugar in blood, migraine pains reliefs and distress, both my husband and I noticed these changes. Another one thing, if I skip even one session of EE, I'm having craving like I have craving for chocolate (yes, I'm still eating dark chocolate, can't say good buy to this delicious thing), and the only thing I could do than is to do EE and feel content and energized.
EE is wonderful program and everybody should try it.
SolarMother
Dagobah Resident
Ljubica said:I'm having craving like I have craving for chocolate (yes, I'm still eating dark chocolate, can't say good buy to this delicious thing), and the only thing I could do than is to do EE and feel content and energized.
EE is wonderful program and everybody should try it.
Good new Ljubica! I have seen a few recipes using organic cocoa (dark chocolate!) on the Forum... I could not ever give it up either... Here is one:
http://www.cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=17271.0
healthy choc chip cookie recipe using xylitol, good choc chips, ghee...
I'll look for more!
SolarMother said:Ljubica said:I'm having craving like I have craving for chocolate (yes, I'm still eating dark chocolate, can't say good buy to this delicious thing), and the only thing I could do than is to do EE and feel content and energized.
EE is wonderful program and everybody should try it.
Good new Ljubica! I have seen a few recipes using organic cocoa (dark chocolate!) on the Forum... I could not ever give it up either... Here is one:
http://www.cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=17271.0
healthy choc chip cookie recipe using xylitol, good choc chips, ghee...
I'll look for more!
This is also delicious! 4 spice buckwheat chocolate bread
I
Infiniteness
Guest
EE Update:
I just started doing the POTS and meditation again, had stopped doing it because I had gave up on myself. In the past two days I have experienced some big emotional releases, I never cried like this in my entire life. I have to say that it as brought me some hope for myself and the world. I also started reflecting on my life, of all the hurt that has been done to me and the hurt that I have done to others, which is bringing up a lot of sadness.
For know, I think I will start doing some pipe breathing through out the day, with the POTS. But will hold off from doing the whole program because it might be to much for me to handle.
I just started doing the POTS and meditation again, had stopped doing it because I had gave up on myself. In the past two days I have experienced some big emotional releases, I never cried like this in my entire life. I have to say that it as brought me some hope for myself and the world. I also started reflecting on my life, of all the hurt that has been done to me and the hurt that I have done to others, which is bringing up a lot of sadness.
For know, I think I will start doing some pipe breathing through out the day, with the POTS. But will hold off from doing the whole program because it might be to much for me to handle.
Infiniteness said:
That's great to hear that you've had some emotional release in the last little while and through that have found hope! The program as a whole can be pretty powerful when it comes to bringing out emotions and memories and easing back in at a pace you are comfortable with seems like a good idea.
You've had some reflections and emotions come to the surface. Step by step, take your time with processing it all, maybe even writing down your thoughts and emotions in a journal can help as well.
Hey everyone,
Just to give a quick update, last night was the first time in a few weeks that I've done the full EE program. The last time I did the full program I had some powerful emotional releases, so I thought easing back in was a good idea. Infiniteness, I think reading and posting on what you wrote was kind of like a catalyst for me to get back into it again.
Some things that I noticed. I went through a period of processing a lot of thoughts that I've been having during 3-Stage. I have a tendency, when on my own to be pessimistic, and it was almost like a balancing effect occuring as the pessimism was met by a number of thoughts that counter-acted it and brought things into a more positive light.
During the end of Beatha, I had a short period where I went in 'Deep'. My body felt like it was floating on water, almost. And things almost stopped for a period. This happened 2 other times afterwards.
When doing POTS, I remember seeing a face open their mouth, and a thought that I can't remember entered my mind followed by an intense flash of light.
Afterwards I went to sleep immediately, had some interesting dreams and woke up refreshed, just now.
Just to give a quick update, last night was the first time in a few weeks that I've done the full EE program. The last time I did the full program I had some powerful emotional releases, so I thought easing back in was a good idea. Infiniteness, I think reading and posting on what you wrote was kind of like a catalyst for me to get back into it again.
Some things that I noticed. I went through a period of processing a lot of thoughts that I've been having during 3-Stage. I have a tendency, when on my own to be pessimistic, and it was almost like a balancing effect occuring as the pessimism was met by a number of thoughts that counter-acted it and brought things into a more positive light.
During the end of Beatha, I had a short period where I went in 'Deep'. My body felt like it was floating on water, almost. And things almost stopped for a period. This happened 2 other times afterwards.
When doing POTS, I remember seeing a face open their mouth, and a thought that I can't remember entered my mind followed by an intense flash of light.
Afterwards I went to sleep immediately, had some interesting dreams and woke up refreshed, just now.
Iron
Dagobah Resident
Almost every single time I do the whole program, I experience increased body heat in the middle of bioenergetic breathing, until the end, persisting for some time afterwards. This happens despite being summer or winter. Some days it is almost unbearable.
I get puzzled by this, since Laura has said that people tend to feel cold during meditation.
Anyone has experienced this?
I get puzzled by this, since Laura has said that people tend to feel cold during meditation.
Anyone has experienced this?
SolarMother
Dagobah Resident
Iron said:
Iron link, I have experienced intense body heat as well---everytime I complete the round breathing segment and slide into the meditation--for about 5-10 minutes. During the round breathing I get colder. I think it could be a normal thing for others as well?
DanielS said:
I can identify with this...much sadness and constant seeing of my internal considering and self importance. Am doing round breathing only once a week--that seems to be plenty---the rest, pipe breathing and meditation, 3-4 times a week. Pipe breath and meditation helps me in panic states and to help with sleeping...
Avi
Jedi Council Member
I want to share a bit about my experiences with EE again.
Last night after doing half the program I took 3 mg of melatonin and went to bed, feeling very good, relaxed and generally optimistic. I have been taking melatonin consistently for some months now, along with 5HTP during the day and in general think it helps.
The sleep state however did not come very soon, but when it did, was interrupted shortly into it with something akin to epileptic seizure. I dont mean to call it that exactly but am not familiar with the term, if there is one. It is not the first time this has happened, and in fact has happened before ever doing EE, but a part of me is trying to wake up and another part of me is asleep, and so the body starts to shake and I am aware of what is going on but am unable to wake up immediately, so kind of observe this as it is happening, until I do wake-up.
Immediately I noticed the air or energy in the room as it felt to me to be alive and vibrant and very bright though the lights were out and shades drawn. Last year in particular this happened quite frequently and have seen some disturbing images, even heard voices. This time though I did not feel panic and just relaxed into it while making a mental note to protect myself and mentally block any obtrusive and unwanted thoughts. I said a brief prayer and stated firmly in my mind that no unwanted energies were welcome.
Well I fell back to sleep . . . and experienced one of my "flying" dreams. Generally I love these type of dreams, where I am - wherever I am in the dream - when suddenly become lighter than air and even against my own thought process or volition start to float. I've had many of these dreams and they are generally pleasant, though I do wonder about any type of "soul extraction" or other abduction scenarios since reading the material this forum is familiar with.
At any rate, I was quite conscious of the fact I was "flying" the FEELING was quite "real" and I wonder if there might be more to this than simply a flying dream.
One thought is perhaps it actually is interaction, if not abduction, of some type. I hesitate to say this for I have no conscious memory of ever seeing anything "alien" or having any type of "encounter".
The other possibility is that it is something akin to the emotional body detaching from the physical. There definitely seemed to be a "separation" of sorts.
That's about it, just thought I'd share.
Last night after doing half the program I took 3 mg of melatonin and went to bed, feeling very good, relaxed and generally optimistic. I have been taking melatonin consistently for some months now, along with 5HTP during the day and in general think it helps.
The sleep state however did not come very soon, but when it did, was interrupted shortly into it with something akin to epileptic seizure. I dont mean to call it that exactly but am not familiar with the term, if there is one. It is not the first time this has happened, and in fact has happened before ever doing EE, but a part of me is trying to wake up and another part of me is asleep, and so the body starts to shake and I am aware of what is going on but am unable to wake up immediately, so kind of observe this as it is happening, until I do wake-up.
Immediately I noticed the air or energy in the room as it felt to me to be alive and vibrant and very bright though the lights were out and shades drawn. Last year in particular this happened quite frequently and have seen some disturbing images, even heard voices. This time though I did not feel panic and just relaxed into it while making a mental note to protect myself and mentally block any obtrusive and unwanted thoughts. I said a brief prayer and stated firmly in my mind that no unwanted energies were welcome.
Well I fell back to sleep . . . and experienced one of my "flying" dreams. Generally I love these type of dreams, where I am - wherever I am in the dream - when suddenly become lighter than air and even against my own thought process or volition start to float. I've had many of these dreams and they are generally pleasant, though I do wonder about any type of "soul extraction" or other abduction scenarios since reading the material this forum is familiar with.
At any rate, I was quite conscious of the fact I was "flying" the FEELING was quite "real" and I wonder if there might be more to this than simply a flying dream.
One thought is perhaps it actually is interaction, if not abduction, of some type. I hesitate to say this for I have no conscious memory of ever seeing anything "alien" or having any type of "encounter".
The other possibility is that it is something akin to the emotional body detaching from the physical. There definitely seemed to be a "separation" of sorts.
That's about it, just thought I'd share.
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