Éiriú-Eolas - Breathing Program

[beetlemaniac]

I think from this incident I need to learn to be more careful about my body, by not being seated for long periods of time. Sitting in front of the computer for long periods (which makes up a large bulk of my day) makes me lose a lot of sensation in my body. I'm also planning doing more stretches and simple yoga to hopefully boost circulation. Also adding in some bodyweight exercises.

Beetlemaniac,

Have you ever tried to work on a table that is high enough to do the work standing (I am not sure what the technical term in English is)?
This way you won't have the orthostatic problems you describe after sitting for a prolonged period of time. Of course it takes some getting used to, I guess. You could alternate that with sitting (if you have a laptop that is ... )

I just recently built a standing desk to use for work for this exact same reason. The results were/are remarkable. The first day I used it, I felt flush and hot all day, probably because my body was used to being static in a chair for so long and the blood flow was unfamiliar.

Now I work all day most days at the standing desk, and keep a tall stool to the side in case I need to sit for a few minutes. It works pretty well and has restored a lot of my normal circulation and energy levels throughout the day. From what I've read, when you sit for too long, your body begins to "think" that it's sleeping, and your normal systems go into stasis. If you work in front of a computer for long periods, a standing desk is a necessity, imho, or at least the ability to stand up and move every 30 minutes and lots of activity before and after work.

Now that's interesting... And very familiar. The drowsiness sometimes comes when working but not all the time. Too bad we have our office set up in the standard cubicle fashion and I'm not sure if we can incorporate standing desks. I'm not sure if I could get used to standing the whole time but the stool for occasional sitting sounds like a great idea.

 

[Graalsword]

I'm sorry to hear that Graalsword :( I'd say you can avoid the Beatha part until you feel you can do it again. And regarding the other parts, just see if you can do them. Otherwise you could just listen to the meditation part (before sleeping). Hope this helps. Take good care of yourself

Thankyou. That's probably what I will do tonight, just listening to the POTS and meditation. I will try to do the rest during the next days.

 

[Ollie]

I'm sorry to hear that Graalsword :( I'd say you can avoid the Beatha part until you feel you can do it again. And regarding the other parts, just see if you can do them. Otherwise you could just listen to the meditation part (before sleeping). Hope this helps. Take good care of yourself

Thankyou. That's probably what I will do tonight, just listening to the POTS and meditation. I will try to do the rest during the next days.

That's what I do, miss out the Beatha portion, in fact it's difficult to remember the last time that I did it, as it is currently still too powerful for me.

Once again, my experiences of EE the last two weeks follow what is now becoming a similar pattern: wet-eyes and yawns during three-stage pipe breathing, followed by mega-yawns and tears running down my face during PotS. In addition, there has been shoulder ‘shuddering’ and back ‘twitching’, as well as a restless foot and leg.

Outside of EE, in Life, I’ve managed to damage my elbow and had ‘stiff’ fingers whilst asleep.

Dealing with the elbow first:

Osteology and the Musculoskeletol System
Felt Sense of the Biological conflict
Feelings that affect the bones are ones that greatly demoralise a person.

Elbow
Symptoms of the elbow involve conflicts linked to the use of the arm and feelings of devaluation associated with work …

Elbow problems
Pain in the elbow indicates you are holding yourself back with your inflexibility through fear of being stuck – let go and take back your space.

Elbow = Represents changing direction and accepting new experiences

Well, I can agree with that, recently some work that I’ve been researching has taken a new direction, and I’m still unsure of the way forward (stuck), of where to get the required information, resulting in a certain lack of confidence. Interesting psychosomatics, and how quickly they appear.

Fingers:

Osteology and the Musculoskeletol System
Felt Sense of the Biological conflict
As above

Wrist and hand
The wrists and hand represent an ability to accomplish things. Disorders in these bones often reveal conflicts related to dexterity. Our sense of self is devalued when we believe we are incapable of performing a task adequately

Finger Disorders
Emotional Block
… our search for precision is not a good reason. Why do you want to be so precise?

The Thumb … stiffness … is an indication of that you may be pushy, controlling and overtly preoccupied with certain details. You are pushing yourself … too much in order to accomplish something.

The index finger … Injury of the index finger is a message that you might feel pointed at by some authoritarian figure.

The Middle finger …. Stiffness in this finger is a message that you feel easily rejected in intimacy due to your idealistic idea of what perfection is.

Mental Block
Generally speaking, problems with the fingers are a message to let go of all non-essential details. Your perfectionism is getting the better of you. It’s OK to search for perfection but you must concentrate on the things that will help you be in harmony with yourself and stop trying to do and have perfection. I suggest you also let go of all the details that concern other people.

Fingers= Represent details of life
Thumb = Represents intellect and worry
Index = Represents ego and fear
Middle = Represents anger and sexuality

So, the same story, and perfectionism and associated procrastination, of needing it all there before starting, are rearing their ugly head again.

 

[Graalsword]

That's what I do, miss out the Beatha portion, in fact it's difficult to remember the last time that I did it, as it is currently still too powerful for me.

Well, yesterday, I stubbornly tried to do the full EE (beatha included), I thought that the weeping would come later in the POTS, however the emotional release came in the beatha (about half way of it) and I chose to jump directly to POTS, leaving the rest of the Beatha for another occasion. During the POTS I fell asleep or zoned out, I am not sure really.

 

[Iron]

During EE this past week I had my first experience with tightness and clenching in my mid-section during round breathing, along with the feeling of vibrating energy throughout the body. It was interesting that when the extra energy was felt during the round breathing I could even feel a "pulsation" to my outbreath. I've continued to feel very cozy and relaxed after the PotS each time. I also had my first seemingly unrelated outburst of anger recently after EE that may have been some additonal emotional release, it was very strong and came right "out of the blue".

I experienced the same thing!

It was really bizarre. I would be feeling relaxed and glad to have done another session, then not long afterwards I would fly off the handle at the slightest perceived provocation. My poor mother, who I was living with at the time, usually bore the brunt of it. It probably wasn't a coincidence that the anger coming up and out during and after sessions was thrown at her - I harboured furious anger towards my parents. No matter how many times I tried to keep myself in check after EE, the only solution in the end was to reschedule it so that we would both not be in the house at the same time!

I also had similar manifestations months ago. I got very angry and it was very difficult to keep myself in check. Also there was more stuff happening in my life at the time, like getting out of my dysfunctional relationship.
For yesterday's session, did only the meditation, and dreamed with my father with advanced parkinson's disease. It was a really heavy dream. My father has early parkinson, and refuses treatment.

 

[Ollie]

My experiences of EE in the last two weeks follow what is now becoming a similar pattern: wet-eyes and yawns during three-stage pipe breathing, followed by mega-yawns and tears running down my face during PotS. In addition, once again, there has been shoulder ‘shuddering’ and back ‘twitching’, as well as a restless foot and leg. Curiously enough, I tend to have similar experiences when attempting to meditate – no matter what time of the day it is.

 

[Davy27]

Hi... All.

I was curious, as I have been doing the EE for awhile now. Pipe breathing everyday, POTS, but I have lagged on the Round Breathing, though I did it everyday for months with no issues. My question is, I do the pipe breathing on my own, second nature to me, no audio, and I usually do the Round breathing without audio 2, is it more beneficial to do the round breathing with the audio because you hear the ba--ha? It's just annoying because I don't own the audio cd, and I have to sit on my uncomfortable computer chair while doing the round breathin with my headphones plugged into the front of my tower....since my speakers are busted.

I also emailed this question to the site EE and still haven't received a response, Is just the audio portion available for purchase to download so I can put it on my ipod?

 

[Oxajil]

and I usually do the Round breathing without audio 2,

How do you do that though? Isn't it difficult to know when the more quicker rounds of BaHa are there, and for how long you breathe in and out throughout the BaHa?

is it more beneficial to do the round breathing with the audio because you hear the ba--ha?

I would say yes, because then you know you're doing it right and listening to Laura's voice also has its benefits.

It's just annoying because I don't own the audio cd, and I have to sit on my uncomfortable computer chair while doing the round breathin with my headphones plugged into the front of my tower....since my speakers are busted. I also emailed this question to the site EE and still haven't received a response, Is just the audio portion available for purchase to download so I can put it on my ipod?

I do still have the .mp3 file of the program when it was tested, but I'm not sure if I'm allowed to send this to you, so maybe a moderator could chime in on this.

You could also maybe think about purchasing cheap new speakers?

 

[Davy27]

Hi... Well I had a timer when I was listening to the baha portion from the website. I timed how long each slow round was, and then the following faster rounds. All the rounds were very close to the same amount of time. I pick up the pace a bit faster, for the faster portions at my level of comfort, then do it a bit faster for the final round. It has worked well for me. When you have done it as much as I have, it starts to become easier to gauge.

I prefer to do it with with headphones as I can tune everything out that is going on around me, hence wondering if they will sell the mp3 in the future so I can put it on my ipod, especially for the prayer of the soul.

 

[Oxajil]

Hi... Well I had a timer when I was listening to the baha portion from the website. I timed how long each slow round was, and then the following faster rounds. All the rounds were very close to the same amount of time. I pick up the pace a bit faster, for the faster portions at my level of comfort, then do it a bit faster for the final round. It has worked well for me. When you have done it as much as I have, it starts to become easier to gauge.

Ah okay!

I prefer to do it with with headphones as I can tune everything out that is going on around me, hence wondering if they will sell the mp3 in the future so I can put it on my ipod, especially for the prayer of the soul.

Okay, hopefully that will be possible.

 

[pete02]

It's just annoying because I don't own the audio cd, and I have to sit on my uncomfortable computer chair while doing the round breathin with my headphones plugged into the front of my tower....since my speakers are busted. I also emailed this question to the site EE and still haven't received a response, Is just the audio portion available for purchase to download so I can put it on my ipod?

I do still have the .mp3 file of the program when it was tested, but I'm not sure if I'm allowed to send this to you, so maybe a moderator could chime in on this.

You could also maybe think about purchasing cheap new speakers?

Is it possible for you to just purchase the cd set? This way you could rip the whole program to your computer and just download it to your Ipod. I don't believe the individual parts are for sale separately but someone could correct me if I'm wrong.

 

[Carl]

The MP3 files are available from cassiopaea.org:

http://cassiopaea.org/Eiriu-Eolas/

 

[Davy27]

Aww thanks so much. Downloaded and on my ipod. Thanks thanks mucho.

I wanted to ask a question, hopefully this is the right place. If not if it can be taken to the right home.

I have been doing the EE for awhile. I'm familiar with Somatic Therapy after doing a dozen or so sessions. Nervous System discharging via jolts, sighs, yawning etc. But particularly during the POS, I was very relaxed and then all of a sudden a quick snap shot came into my mind, something very trivial, it was so fast, but the second it came into my mind, I had a huge jolt in my body, and it was gone. It didn't bother me, but I was just curious if anyone had this as well? I seem to get massive jolts of discharged energy when some type of scene plays and runs through my mind, so fast, so quick, and then BOOM. Something I saw on tv, or a music video, etc. Also, the last time I did POS, I started to notice I could see in the dark? Anyone else have this? It didn't last long, maybe 1 minute or less. And the last other thing that was a bit new, I was relaxed breathing during the POS, and to the left of me I noticed a shadow figure, not tall, but it startled me, but as soon as I saw it I felt it pop into my chest... I was wasn't scared, or worried. It was just something new. Anyone have something similar? Lastly this always happens, as soon as I finish the POS, I notice my thoughts again just start racing, really really fast, trivial things, like channel surfing click click click.... The predator flies I suppose, but I always read people are very relaxed etc after, and I'm relaxed but it seems like these thoughts are on auto-pilot, as I watch them roll by, watching, observing.

 

[Ollie]

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Nervous System discharging via jolts, sighs, yawning etc. ...

That sums up my last week of EE during PotS, especially my shoulders and arms - this is also the case when I'm meditating, relaxing in the dark (or light reduced), and when getting into a cold bed.

 

[beetlemaniac]

...
Nervous System discharging via jolts, sighs, yawning etc. ...

That sums up my last week of EE during PotS, especially my shoulders and arms - this is also the case when I'm meditating, relaxing in the dark (or light reduced), and when getting into a cold bed.

Same here. These phenomena occur as soon as my mind stops running around in circles (thoughts about work, family and associated feelings of fear, guilt and shame) and I'm able to relax into a meditative state. Feels like releases of built up muscular tension.