Éiriú-Eolas - Breathing Program

[CelticWarrior]

Hello all, I'd like to move this original post I made a few weeks ago to it's rightful section and to add something more that's been on my mind about Eiriu Eolas.

It has been two years since I was introduced to Eiriu Eolas having my first class in Toronto in February 2011. After many important changes in my life, the breathing program continues to sustain my need for relaxation and overall well being. The goal of achieving sensory motor rhythm in these modern and stress-filled times is a worthwhile practice for life.

There are a few things I've wanted to share about my experience with ee both individually and collectively. Whenever I'm doing the beatha portion of the program it seems to be the point of any emotional releases that might happen. I'll often find myself feeling like I want to laugh out loud or in very rare cases I've felt somewhat angry. It's also the most challenging stage physically and by the end of it I always feel tingling sensations in my face and toes. If there's something I've learned at this point it's that there's no substitution for having a group, especially when exhalating together and having that extra vibrational effect.

At the prayer of the soul there's a few things I've experienced. One of them is when my mind goes back in time and I'll recall things from childhood that I thought I'd forgotten. Another is being so well relaxed that after just a few pipe breaths I'm just about ready to fall asleep. I have never fallen asleep completely but I can say it does happen to some people. Once when I did the entire program with my girlfriend she was out like a light, then after waking up twenty minutes later she didn't know how much time had passed.

I think making use of the breathing program during the evening is best, however, I do like to do it in the late morning every so often because it can in fact provide a calm alertfulness during the day. At the very least I will do the complete program once or twice per week. If I feel the need to relieve tension at any time then pipe breathing is certainly effective, which is usually necessary as a result of a hard day at work or after a tense social situation.

In addition to the breathing, good exercise and generous sleep I want to give the Ultra Bath a try and see what happens. Thanks to an article I found on sott.net it seems to be a really good way of helping to relieve any elevated stress hormones. Here's how it works:

Quote: "Add 2 cups of Epsom salt (which contains magnesium, the relaxation mineral), a half-cup of baking soda, and 10 drops of lavender oil (which lowers cortisol) to a very hot bath. Then, add one stressed human and soak for 20 minutes. Guaranteed to induce relaxation."

Now, I've had a chance to do this relaxing bath and it's really great because it feels much more than an ordinary bath. It's good to have all the muscles totally at ease, and then being much more refreshed for a breathing session. I can't stand being all wound up before doing the program, and while the stretching can be great to get everything started it's an added bonus to use the bath approach. I'd be interested to hear what other people think of using this method of lowering tension so let me know how it's worked for you and perhaps any other ways to wind down.

 

[daddycat]

I attempted to do EE twice in the last 3 days. Instead of waiting until everyone was asleep, I did it during the day when they were awake. There were interruptions and distractions, and I didn't even get to do the meditation portion today. I was wondering how bad is it to not get the complete program? I figure this is better than not doing it at all, though I continue to wonder how to do EE without distractions.

 

[SMM]

For about a week I have been having tremors & muscle spasms whilst practising the meditation portion of the program, or more precisely when I focus on sensations in my body. It started in the lower regions though has moved through the torso.
I read that others have experienced similar effects due to hyperventilation. It seems to travel up, it started in my toes/legs, up to chest & now it's at throat/head level. It feels as though my throat/head is "full" as though there's some pressure there.

Wanted to share this experience. At this throat level it seems to affect my hay fever, I've been a sneezing-teary mess for that duration. It could also pertain to diet changes.

 

[monotonic]

I find electrolyte imbalance can cause a similar experience. Are you getting enough salt and potassium? Enough water? I once suggested to my father to drink a glass of water with half a teaspoon sea salt. He immediately started sweating. Being unable to sweat means your body is chronically overheated. Potassium deficiency can also cause cramps and spasms IIRC. I've found electrolyte balance has an effect on hay fever as well. My mother once had a problem where she simply could not stay awake while in the sun - she discovered she was eating almost no salt and once this was remedied, the problem went away.

 

[Zadius Sky]

I attempted to do EE twice in the last 3 days. Instead of waiting until everyone was asleep, I did it during the day when they were awake. There were interruptions and distractions, and I didn't even get to do the meditation portion today. I was wondering how bad is it to not get the complete program? I figure this is better than not doing it at all, though I continue to wonder how to do EE without distractions.

I often had the same issue (referring to "interruptions and distractions") since I'm living with my parents (I used to wait until they went to sleep). When I would want to do EE during the day or evening, they would come bursting into my room and told me to stop that "awful sex noise," even though I told them what I was doing and why.

So, I don't know what's your living situation is like - you could do what I'm doing. Use a door hanger similar to "Do Not Disturb" sign with a picture of you meditating, put it on the door knob, and lock the door. Additionally, in my case, I'll take my hearing aid off and focus on Laura's voice through an ear-piece (with volume on high). It works - that way, I wouldn't have to worry about my parents and I can focus on my breathing and relax.

I wrote on my hanger as "Shh...I Am Meditating" - truth to be told, I was tempted to write "Shh...I am making a sex noise" but that would make my parents mad.

 

[aragorn]

A little update on my latest experiences doing EE.

Somewhere around April, with stressing thoughts about future employment, I decided to do EE more regularly again. In the past while being insecure about the future, doing EE - sometimes even daily - has helped to clarify and, I suspect, brought new unexpected opportunities.

Ca a month ago I had a really intense experience. After the program I started hearing chattering and loud talking. First, I thought some group had entered our house, but soon I realized that the sounds were coming inside of me (even though they sounded very real and "outside"). Then I fell asleep, and when I woke up I realized that these were the exact sounds I heard as a kid, when my parents had wild parties at our home, being drunk and - as almost always - having a fight. Usually during these parties I was shivering under my blanket and silently crying. And what I realized, too, was that the worst part was that my parents never mentioned or explained anything the next day to us kids. They pretended as everything was okay.

Then, last week I started feeling depressed as if something was building up inside, ready to burst. I continued with my EE routine, waiting for that something to come out. Nothing. Until a couple a days ago, while practicing singing at work (which also stimulates the vagus nerve) I suddenly felt like crying. I rushed home and laid down on my bed, and waited.

After a while, my solar plexus started to tighten up and my face molded itself spontaneously into a strange grimace. Then came the crying...or sobbingn actually. My mind wanted to start analyzing the underlying feeling, but from experience I knew that this was not the right method. So I let it build up without any "expectations".

Soon a thought emerged: my happy relationship with my own children, and how I never had that with my dad. The image/feeling got sharper: what I've apparently longed for all my childhood was to hug my dad, sit in his lap and feel his strong arms around me. Needless to say, these things didn't even remotely happen. The sadness was really intense.

Then, things got really strange. I saw the image of my father and suddenly it turned into a old crooked and ugly man with wrinkles and big crooked teeth. And this thing was laughing at me, enjoying immensely the fact that it had corrupted and destroyed our family. I got very angry at this thing, cursing it. This might have been some sort of "frequency representation" of the blac soul of my father, but whatever it was, I was furious that it had ruined my family with its evilness.

Then the image disappeared, and I started feeling this same "taste" of the evil energy in my stomach area. I started breathing mor deeply and rapidly, thinking how for every exhalation it would be pushed out and go away. I think I even said some profanities, I was so angry. After a while things settled down and I started feeling lighter - thinking how I was "almost there". Unfortunately, at that very second my phone rang and I had to jump into action.

Anyway, whatever this was, I can say that doing EE gives some intense and interesting experiences and insights!

There has even appeared an unexpected job opportunity for me, but I rather save the details until I know if it's realistic.

 

[mabar]

This week I noticed something …curious? … I usually –daily- try to remember myself when I do not walk straightly, that is a little issue other people had told me since I remember. The other day, I was in the line of the bank and I noticed that I was standing straight, without remember to change my body to do so. And I found it curious, I had also noticed this week that I had been walking straightly when I am calm and without a hurry, because I had noticed that I tend to bend while being in a hurry, at least so far, and I think that even if I had not being aware of it, I may bend while being anxious or worried too.

I am doing EE (three steps, warriors and meditation once a week, and meditation almost daily), Beat ha, like every 3 months, I become overwhelm by it's secondary effects.

This Thursday another curious thing happend, I “feel” some sort of shift? while coming from meditation, can’t say if it was felt physically, but I noticed there it was this …shift. I am confused, can't even describe it, has anyone had “felt” something familiar?

 

[monotonic]

This Thursday another curious thing happend, I “feel” some sort of shift? while coming from meditation, can’t say if it was felt physically, but I noticed there it was this …shift. I am confused, can't even describe it, has anyone had “felt” something familiar?

Physical shift? Mental shift? Emotional shift?

I've experienced mental and emotional shifts that seem arbitrary but seem to happen around the general time I do EE or have interesting dreams. It is an interesting experience because the shift produces a sort of disorientation, but I just can't connect it with anything at all. I think these may be related to deeply subconscious processes.

Also, have you read "In an Unspoken Voice" by Peter Levine? It is important to be aware of your body. If you find you constantly lose awareness of a distorted posture, then I wonder if there is something about your life in general you are always wanting to escape from, which brings you to dissociate?

 

[sacriface]

This week I noticed something …curious? … I usually –daily- try to remember myself when I do not walk straightly, that is a little issue other people had told me since I remember. The other day, I was in the line of the bank and I noticed that I was standing straight, without remember to change my body to do so. And I found it curious, I had also noticed this week that I had been walking straightly when I am calm and without a hurry, because I had noticed that I tend to bend while being in a hurry, at least so far, and I think that even if I had not being aware of it, I may bend while being anxious or worried too.

I am doing EE (three steps, warriors and meditation once a week, and meditation almost daily), Beat ha, like every 3 months, I become overwhelm by it's secondary effects.

This Thursday another curious thing happend, I “feel” some sort of shift? while coming from meditation, can’t say if it was felt physically, but I noticed there it was this …shift. I am confused, can't even describe it, has anyone had “felt” something familiar?

I do exactly the same thing with my left shoulder. I think I have a light scoliosis of my spine(slight bending), but there is this thing that makes me pull my left shoulder up a bit, and it used to be like this all the time, then when I slowly started getting more self-awareness I started paying attention so as not to do it. But lately, when Eiriu Eolas became a regular excersize, sometimes every second day, it seems to have gone nearly entirely. And when it happens in more stressful situation I notice it right away, or at least I like to think so.

It's interesting also what you say about this "shift".
I think it has to do with many layers of what is beneath our conscious mind, from the subconscious/unconscious to collective mind and genetic body. Since we struggle to find words for those areas I can only refer to what seems to be similar to what you describe.
Doing EE more often lately has very much accelerated those intangible changes, I'd liken it to clearing and regrouping/restoring? of some inner structures.

I remember this feeling first when I encountered "Bringers Of The Dawn", I read it and knew there are things boiling up in me (in a positive way of course) but I knew also that at least for the time being I will have little conscious insight into them.

This is, IMO, one way these felt shifts happen at a certain period of developing- through acquiring information via the conscious mind, that works in a feedback loop with the unconscious/subconscious that can only be felt.
And another way is, for this instance, deep breathing techniques which consciously are manifested as just breathing, but their real effect is happening down there, under the surface. I believe they are quite similar shifts in nature, it's the same 'medium' that shifts, which only in part manifest as more clarity in ordinary waking consciousness.

Maybe in most general terms we are referring to the FRV..

 

[mabar]

Thanks for your responses

Physical shift? Mental shift? Emotional shift?
I've experienced mental and emotional shifts that seem arbitrary but seem to happen around the general time I do EE or have interesting dreams. It is an interesting experience because the shift produces a sort of disorientation, but I just can't connect it with anything at all. I think these may be related to deeply subconscious processes.

I can't confirmed to anyone, … I had been thinking about how to describe it, … the most similar, being this shift as a blink (physically). Like 3-4 months ago, after a session of Beatha, three days later I had a close encounter with myself. I remember that the cue was a triviality, I was so angry by a triviality, that I was questioning myself the whys –this triviality happened at the bus coming back from work, so after reaching home I decided to write it down in my journal and I ended up crying hard, I found that I did not like my life, I did not/like to be me and with this acknowledge, that I supposed was there but I did had not accept it, always finding justifications I supposed; it has become an issue that I had been working with since then. Phrases as “do what you don’t like” had been having an internal meaning, I think.

Also, have you read "In an Unspoken Voice" by Peter Levine? It is important to be aware of your body. If you find you constantly lose awareness of a distorted posture, then I wonder if there is something about your life in general you are always wanting to escape from, which brings you to dissociate?

No, had not read it, and had not read other recommended books from Psychology & Cognitive Science either, can't afford them now neither, sure, some are not that expensive, though with the shipping and handling cost, it can get the double or triplet price and I had been having extra expenses, do not want to spent in the credit card until I may be able to pay it without being drowned by interests; instead I read the threads, and had been rereading Trapped in the Mirror. I know is important to be aware of what my body is communicating, for many years I did not want even to “listen” it, EE program had helped into listening without fear, to be able to feel sensations and feelings. And yes, there is a great wanting to escape from my self which brings me to dissociate. Sometimes I had been able to pin pointing out, sometimes I do not, and I had not sharing in the forum, I understand the importance to do it, sometimes I do not have that much time. I am doing right now, although can't stay much longer … have to do other things as cleaning and other pendings I usually do the on Sundays, I was using the time left until SOTT broadcast radio began, and it had already started, I was thinking into doing the cleaning while hearing it.

It's interesting also what you say about this "shift".
I think it has to do with many layers of what is beneath our conscious mind, from the subconscious/unconscious to collective mind and genetic body. Since we struggle to find words for those areas I can only refer to what seems to be similar to what you describe.
I remember this feeling first when I encountered "Bringers Of The Dawn", I read it and knew there are things boiling up in me (in a positive way of course) but I knew also that at least for the time being I will have little conscious insight into them.

I suppose it does, from what is in the subconscious/unconscious mind, not sure about the collective though. Had not read "Bringers Of The Dawn", another in the list.

This is, IMO, one way these felt shifts happen at a certain period of developing- through acquiring information via the conscious mind, that works in a feedback loop with the unconscious/subconscious that can only be felt.
And another way is, for this instance, deep breathing techniques which consciously are manifested as just breathing, but their real effect is happening down there, under the surface. I believe they are quite similar shifts in nature, it's the same 'medium' that shifts, which only in part manifest as more clarity in ordinary waking consciousness.

It might be I think, considering what had been happening with me these months. Is like when I zoned out, in which –as I understand- my self goes in communion with the higher self, something is changing is happening, but I not aware? --- I think? … as I read from another member –do not recall from who, but she/he expressed that, it got the feeling that she/he was not involved, left apart. It would be nice to know …. On the other side, it is better that way, I mean, predator, depredator, negative interjections would attack merciless.

Maybe in most general terms we are referring to the FRV..

I am going to check out what is FRV because I do not know what is it.

 

[mabar]

Had found what FVR is from http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic,26583.msg319767.html#msg319767 session: "A: Frequency Resonance Vibration." and other threads to read. I tend more "reading" body communicating in people, than myself ... from FRV, need to get more information, to talk in the same language though.

 

[sacriface]

It's interesting also what you say about this "shift".
I think it has to do with many layers of what is beneath our conscious mind, from the subconscious/unconscious to collective mind and genetic body. Since we struggle to find words for those areas I can only refer to what seems to be similar to what you describe.
I remember this feeling first when I encountered "Bringers Of The Dawn", I read it and knew there are things boiling up in me (in a positive way of course) but I knew also that at least for the time being I will have little conscious insight into them.

I suppose it does, from what is in the subconscious/unconscious mind, not sure about the collective though. Had not read "Bringers Of The Dawn", another in the list.

Yeah I guess the collective mind operates on another level than the one you can affect with your own actions in a way that can be, in some way, sensed directly.
Bringers Of The Dawn is the easiest read among channeled material that has little dabble and apparently little corruption in it. It ties in with the C's material even though there are differences, but reading of it is very smooth, like a warm, soothing tale, so to say.

This is, IMO, one way these felt shifts happen at a certain period of developing- through acquiring information via the conscious mind, that works in a feedback loop with the unconscious/subconscious that can only be felt.
And another way is, for this instance, deep breathing techniques which consciously are manifested as just breathing, but their real effect is happening down there, under the surface. I believe they are quite similar shifts in nature, it's the same 'medium' that shifts, which only in part manifest as more clarity in ordinary waking consciousness.

It might be I think, considering what had been happening with me these months. Is like when I zoned out, in which –as I understand- my self goes in communion with the higher self, something is changing is happening, but I not aware? --- I think? … as I read from another member –do not recall from who, but she/he expressed that, it got the feeling that she/he was not involved, left apart. It would be nice to know …. On the other side, it is better that way, I mean, predator, depredator, negative interjections would attack merciless.

I think feeling "left out" could come from the ego(self importance) solely, on another level one might know about the benefit of such communication with the higher self, and on the conscious level it's just important to know why this happens, that is, your conscious 'wiring' wouldn't be able to handle such a contact, so it 'blacks out' in protection.That's how this is explained by Gurdjieff.

Had found what FVR is from http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic,26583.msg319767.html#msg319767 session: "A: Frequency Resonance Vibration." and other threads to read. I tend more "reading" body communicating in people, than myself ... from FRV, need to get more information, to talk in the same language though.

There is also this site, in case you didn't know it: http://glossary.cassiopaea.com/glossary.php?l=U
it has most important and basic definitions and explanations that can be helpful.

Here's the FRV definition, maybe it will explain a bit more than the session transcript.
http://glossary.cassiopaea.com/glossary.php?id=339&lsel=F

hope this helps anyway ;)

 

[mabar]

Yeah I guess the collective mind operates on another level than the one you can affect with your own actions in a way that can be, in some way, sensed directly.

That would be pretty much precisely, I supposed that, since I had not sense directly how the collective mind works, function, sense … cannot describe it from personal experience. I recall a couple of experiences in which I sense(??) something was wrong moments before I knew what had happened or what was happening, but cannot name it as part of/kind of collective mind.

Bringers Of The Dawn is the easiest read among channeled material that has little dabble and apparently little corruption in it. It ties in with the C's material even though there are differences, but reading of it is very smooth, like a warm, soothing tale, so to say.

I am familiar with its title because Laura had mentioned it in the Wave Series as with the Ra Material, but had not read neither books, I supposed that, since I did not had read any channeled material before the C's, it was something rather new, kind of “out of this world”, that I think I am still somehow dumbstruck by each session. So then, such concepts around channeled material and/or such as collective mind, to me still, is like an amoeba trying to understand metaphysics; here, in this forum, had helped me to “bring such concepts down to earth”. Thanks for your description, it invites me to read it. Although, being not in the “urgent line” it can percolates.

I think feeling "left out" could come from the ego(self importance) solely, on another level one might know about the benefit of such communication with the higher self, and on the conscious level it's just important to know why this happens, that is, your conscious 'wiring' wouldn't be able to handle such a contact, so it 'blacks out' in protection.That's how this is explained by Gurdjieff.

I did not saw it that way, you are right.

There is also this site, in case you didn't know it: http://glossary.cassiopaea.com/glossary.php?l=U
it has most important and basic definitions and explanations that can be helpful.
Here's the FRV definition, maybe it will explain a bit more than the session transcript.
http://glossary.cassiopaea.com/glossary.php?id=339&lsel=F

Ah! yes, I know about it, it did not occurred to me go there. Thanks for the reminder. And yes, you were helpful. :)

 

[Daniel56]

Hi I am new to the Cassiopeia forum .
I have purchased three of Laura's works and think she is extremely gifted
The Cassiopeia sessions are truly amazing
I am 57 years of age and live in Scotland
I am also disabled with bilateral diaphragmatic paralysis which means I can't lie down
Without my breathing becoming extremely short and laboured
Still I'm very interested in Laura's breathing program
Any info please many thanks

 

[Gertrudes]

Hi I am new to the Cassiopeia forum .
I have purchased three of Laura's works and think she is extremely gifted
The Cassiopeia sessions are truly amazing
I am 57 years of age and live in Scotland
I am also disabled with bilateral diaphragmatic paralysis which means I can't lie down
Without my breathing becoming extremely short and laboured
Still I'm very interested in Laura's breathing program
Any info please many thanks

Welcome to the forum Daniel56 :)
You don't necessarily need to lie down in order to do the breathing program, you can do it in any position you find yourself to be comfortable in. There are some general guidelines, but you can work around them to adapt the program to your body's needs.

The full EE breathing program can be found on its own site here: http://eiriu-eolas.org/
There you can watch and follow the free online version.

You will also find a link to purchase your own version of the DVD.

I don't know whether you have tried the program already, but it is proving to give truly amazing results, both on the short as well as the long term. You can read innumerous members' accounts on this thread, as well as on the forum of the EE site that I linked above.

Finally, we usually suggest for new members to introduce themselves in the newbies section of the forum. Just something simple telling us how you found us, and anything else you may wish to share about you.