Éiriú-Eolas - Breathing Program

Rhys said:
I completely forgot about this, but 4 days ago I "cheated" on my diet when visiting friends and ate some biscuits - I had been doing very well up until that point. The following couple of days I ended up getting a couple of spots and feeling a dull ache in my right big toe. This is speculation, but based on what you have said and my recent experiences with my diet, I would say that maybe your body is trying to "jump up a notch" and hold more energy, or it could just be your circulation is improving in this area from the progress you have already made in your diet.

It would make sense that a lot of our toxic deposits end up in our extremities and your body is working to clear these out. The irritation could be caused by a number of things, like feeling the sensation itself or maybe it could even a trapped emotion Huh?

I have experienced similar sensations to this after I went cold turkey on gluten, wheat and dairy so I would say it's encouaging imho. Hope this helps.

Biomast said:
Hi Evolutionary,

I have been feeling pain and some kind of energy surge with my left foot and my toes since last week. I am not sure if this is the same experience, but the way I would describe it is, someone pushes something up from the bottom of my foot and it is a really strong feeling. I find the sensation somewhat disturbing, so I wouldn't call it pleasant like your description in your chest, yet I also experienced similar pressures at other sides of my body, some were pleasant, some were strong and intense like this one. My initial thoughts were it is some kind of cleansing from negative energies or introduction of new energies to the organism, but I really don't know, so I am curious to hear what is others' take on it.

My two cents, fwiw


Thanks for your input guys, this gives us something more to reference at least.
Rhys, I kinda went on a binge the past couple of days on sugar and wheat. I figured I'd eat so much of it I wouldn't regret quitting tomorrow. Well, I did, and I don't (at the moment at least). Maybe there is some connection to diet. Best of luck sticking to it; I'll be joining you soon!

Biomast, I hope the pain you've experienced subsides soon. We may be experiencing different sensations, but I think both you and Rhys may be on to something in regards to new energies being introduced, or maybe old energies dissipating. The buzzing is still occurring in my foot, but with less frequency. I've noticed it runs along the part of my foot that corresponds to the spine, neck, and head in reflexology which may be related, as well...

I don't know ! :) However, I do think the anger I experienced yesterday has gone, and was more likely related to my mood. I have been increasingly aware and guilty about how unhealthy I have been, how I've treated my body when I knew better, and I think I am irritated with myself for how much catching up I have to do. Plus, I was junked up on sugar and probably crashing :-[

Eiriu Eolas works in mysterious ways...
 
Bud said:
gaman said:
A change I have noticed is that I tear up and sort of weep quietly most of the time when I encounter emotional things. This is particularly true now any time my wife and I watch a TV show or a movie. At points where there is great joy, sadness, dedication, honor, integrity, etc. I start tearing and weeping. I can't explain it but there it is :)

Same here except for the TV and movie thing. Mostly when the subject has to do with genuine communication from the heart...and even more so since I committed to the EE a little while back.

I have had this happen to me during movies as well. It pretty much has been with me most of my life but since the E/E it has surfaced much more. The only thing that bothers me is that I just can't seem to let it go. I've tried to just cry it out sometimes but theres like a wall just holding it all in that I just can't seem to break. I tear and get emotional, but when I try to let go, nothing. I was thinking that this was one of the emotional blocks that the E/E would help me release and maybe it still, will but nothing yet. Even when I'm doing the E/E, my eyes tear up on a regular basis but I haven't had any emotional releases like many others have described. I knew I had a hard head but I didn't realize it would be this hard to crack!
 
Hi everyone,

this is my first post in the EE thread and I will just jump in and summarize my situation up to now.

I started end of November on and off, properly on a regular basis over Christmas/New Year with short break beginning and middle of January. Now I'm practicing on a regularly basis, in the morning with the first part breathing exercise, the whole routine with round breathing and PoTS in the evening.

Some observations. Definitely feel more internally balanced and in better mood, harder to get stressed or irritated. I had a massive stressed out period starting from Sept. 09 to end of January 10 due to studies situation as well as connected to people I'm living with (but that's more suitable for the Swamp).

Further there's better clarity of thought, after round breathing I've experienced some emotional releases with some crying, mostly just feel the energy surge which mostly effects the hands, get what I call "claw hands" and when this happens it takes a while for the energized feeling to subside. Also doing round breathing I sometimes hear these (for lack of better term) "bing boing" noises, not sure what to make of that.

Most nights there are vivid dreams, similar to when taking melatonin, in some of them the theme is of me standing up to manipulative forces.

Reading through this thread to catch up and also the FAQs thread on E/E.
 
Pete02 said:
I have had this happen to me during movies as well. It pretty much has been with me most of my life but since the E/E it has surfaced much more. The only thing that bothers me is that I just can't seem to let it go. I've tried to just cry it out sometimes but theres like a wall just holding it all in that I just can't seem to break. I tear and get emotional, but when I try to let go, nothing. I was thinking that this was one of the emotional blocks that the E/E would help me release and maybe it still, will but nothing yet. Even when I'm doing the E/E, my eyes tear up on a regular basis but I haven't had any emotional releases like many others have described. I knew I had a hard head but I didn't realize it would be this hard to crack!

Hey, Pete. I have a similar situation, as well. I've always been pretty weepy--as long as I'm alone--though lately I more often have teary eyes and a feeling of pressure and sadness but never a big break through. This may be because I can't quite put my finger on what I want to cry about anymore, or who I should cry for, since I see how false and self-important my usual reasons for crying were. Maybe.

In the past, I was compelled to cry more as a response to relating to the pain I saw expressed in movies or music because I was able to put myself in that position, or remember a similar one and "feel" for the character. But I was not really crying for others, but for "poor me." I can still really ball over a sad or inspirational film, imagining the immensity of tragedy or love. But in contrast, when I hear or read about real life tragedies, or think about my own, there is often a wall between me and any emotional response, I just note it intellectually, but don't really feel anything definitive; this is due to narcissistic wounding, I think, because when I was a girl I was very empathetic and sensitive and my dad criticized me for being so until I learned to pretend so well I crippled myself; I would definitely be classified as (wo)man number 3 ;), and I guess I still haven't gotten the hang of expressing my own true feelings without being able to attribute them to something intangible. Perhaps your situation is similar in some ways in having a debilitated emotional center? I think that reversing this is one aim of the Work and the Breathing/Meditation. And it is good that you feel the emotions even if you cannot cry yet, OSIT.

Not being able to really cry (or feel deeply) can be frustrating, but I hope and expect that at some point I will have a good cry, not because I feel sorry for myself, but but because I recognize and release the real source of my pain--my own and others' slavery to the predator's mind, I think. In time I'm sure that what is there will find a way out into the light, for all of us, with the help of honesty, EE, and the desire to know...I hope this makes sense and isn't too noisy.
 
Rylek said:
Further there's better clarity of thought, after round breathing I've experienced some emotional releases with some crying, mostly just feel the energy surge which mostly effects the hands, get what I call "claw hands" and when this happens it takes a while for the energized feeling to subside. Also doing round breathing I sometimes hear these (for lack of better term) "bing boing" noises, not sure what to make of that.

Most nights there are vivid dreams, similar to when taking melatonin, in some of them the theme is of me standing up to manipulative forces.

Welcome to the thread, Rylek! I can't sat much about the strange noises except that it seems there are many curious symptoms to this cleansing and healing process :); I'm sure you'll notice this is as you catch up on the thread. And if you haven't read it yet you could also check out the FAQs section available on the Eiriu Eolas page where it mentions some of the more common ones.

It sounds as though you are already making really good progress, especially considering your dream content. Thanks for sharing and Godspeed.
 
Evolutionary said:
Not being able to really cry (or feel deeply) can be frustrating, but I hope and expect that at some point I will have a good cry, not because I feel sorry for myself, but but because I recognize and release the real source of my pain--my own and others' slavery to the predator's mind, I think. In time I'm sure that what is there will find a way out into the light, for all of us, with the help of honesty, EE, and the desire to know...I hope this makes sense and isn't too noisy.

Not noisy at all Evolutionary, in fact I always appreciate input. ;)

Sometimes it is frustrating to not be able to let it all out but I too suspect at some point, I will overcome this. Maybe your right and I'm trying to let it out for the wrong reasons and thats why it won't let go. Something I will have to think about. The E/E is definitely doing good things for me and I'm hopeful that if I just stay with it, one of these times I will be able to break down that barrier.
 
gaman said:
A change I have noticed is that I tear up and sort of weep quietly most of the time when I encounter emotional things. This is particularly true now any time my wife and I watch a TV show or a movie. At points where there is great joy, sadness, dedication, honor, integrity, etc. I start tearing and weeping. I can't explain it but there it is :)

I gets Lot's of tears while doing POTS , when I was destressed / frustrated for some thing or others. certain amount of healing I suppose. I feel good that atleast some thing is working. I too get this. Recently I got this type of tears while listening howard zenn's contribution to our society.
 
Rhys said:
During my journey I felt as if I was looking through someone else's eyes as well as my own, and everything felt pretty alien to me to be honest (even though I was comfortable and at ease).
I always felt I doesn't fit to this world of selfishness and their games based on mechanical hook operations at different levels, thus resulting all sorts of conflicts, diversions, escapism and lies. Now a days, I am getting a involuntary feeling that this world is strange and I am living in this strange world. I am not sure this is just another variation of old pattern or it is a new pattern. For the first time I started feeling lonely ( could be related to my current low self acceptance ), though I am loner most of my life, though people are with me.
 
Biomiast said:
Evolutionary said:
For the last two days I have felt a distinct and rhythmic buzzing/vibration in my right foot. At first, I thought it was related to some external factor, but when I realized it is only in the one foot and I've felt it at home and at work, I started to be more curious. The vibrating lasts about a second, pauses for about 3, and repeats constantly. I experience a similar sensation, though sustained, in my chest after the first round of warrior's breath and have always found it pleasant. The odd thing is, the buzzing in my foot is a little distracting and starting to make me angry whenever I focus on it! I am one of those people who "don't get angry," so I am a little confused by this small thing getting my hackles up. (I put that in quotes because I realize it is more of a belief stemming from dissociation from my emotions than the truth).

Hi Evolutionary,

I have been feeling pain and some kind of energy surge with my left foot and my toes since last week. I am not sure if this is the same experience, but the way I would describe it is, someone pushes something up from the bottom of my foot and it is a really strong feeling. I find the sensation somewhat disturbing, so I wouldn't call it pleasant like your description in your chest, yet I also experienced similar pressures at other sides of my body, some were pleasant, some were strong and intense like this one. My initial thoughts were it is some kind of cleansing from negative energies or introduction of new energies to the organism, but I really don't know, so I am curious to hear what is others' take on it.

My two cents, fwiw.

I remember something like this happend to me in october. For almost a week i felt this sensation in my foot. It was non stop pulsating, very warm, and no matter what i did, did not went away. I thought for a moment that it could have been something related to EE, but as no one reported it in here i thought that it is not the case :-[. Self importance will get you every time, until you get rid of it. As i could tell what is and what isn't related to EE :headbash:.

That's why i think we should report all our experiences, even (and maybe especially) when we think them insignificant or unrelated to EE.
Truly, how could we judge them by ourselfs?
 
Evolutionary said:
Pete02 said:
I have had this happen to me during movies as well. It pretty much has been with me most of my life but since the E/E it has surfaced much more. The only thing that bothers me is that I just can't seem to let it go. I've tried to just cry it out sometimes but theres like a wall just holding it all in that I just can't seem to break. I tear and get emotional, but when I try to let go, nothing. I was thinking that this was one of the emotional blocks that the E/E would help me release and maybe it still, will but nothing yet. Even when I'm doing the E/E, my eyes tear up on a regular basis but I haven't had any emotional releases like many others have described. I knew I had a hard head but I didn't realize it would be this hard to crack!

Hey, Pete. I have a similar situation, as well. I've always been pretty weepy--as long as I'm alone--though lately I more often have teary eyes and a feeling of pressure and sadness but never a big break through. This may be because I can't quite put my finger on what I want to cry about anymore, or who I should cry for, since I see how false and self-important my usual reasons for crying were. Maybe.

In the past, I was compelled to cry more as a response to relating to the pain I saw expressed in movies or music because I was able to put myself in that position, or remember a similar one and "feel" for the character. But I was not really crying for others, but for "poor me." I can still really ball over a sad or inspirational film, imagining the immensity of tragedy or love. But in contrast, when I hear or read about real life tragedies, or think about my own, there is often a wall between me and any emotional response, I just note it intellectually, but don't really feel anything definitive; this is due to narcissistic wounding, I think, because when I was a girl I was very empathetic and sensitive and my dad criticized me for being so until I learned to pretend so well I crippled myself; ...

I have similar problem with my emotions and self pity. I remember the exact moment i started to build wall around them. I was four then, playing with family and friends by the lake. My father bought some peaches for us. It was enough for everyone and then some. When i went to him to have one he told me with no remorse or even slightly bit of regret that he don't have them anymore, and those that came late are themself at fault for doing so.
I don't remember much of my childhood, but this particular moment stuck in my memory. In my life i rarely felt as worthless and betreyed as then.

Thanks to Laura, C's and others in this group we have EE, diet, and other tools to work through those blocks, programs and cleaning our machines on all levels :flowers:.
 
Pete02 said:
Bud on Yesterday at 02:48:13 AM said:
A change I have noticed is that I tear up and sort of weep quietly most of the time when I encounter emotional things. This is particularly true now any time my wife and I watch a TV show or a movie. At points where there is great joy, sadness, dedication, honor, integrity, etc. I start tearing and weeping. I can't explain it but there it is Smiley

Same here except for the TV and movie thing. Mostly when the subject has to do with genuine communication from the heart...and even more so since I committed to the EE a little while back.

I have had this happen to me during movies as well. It pretty much has been with me most of my life but since the E/E it has surfaced much more. The only thing that bothers me is that I just can't seem to let it go. I've tried to just cry it out sometimes but theres like a wall just holding it all in that I just can't seem to break. I tear and get emotional, but when I try to let go, nothing. I was thinking that this was one of the emotional blocks that the E/E would help me release and maybe it still, will but nothing yet. Even when I'm doing the E/E, my eyes tear up on a regular basis but I haven't had any emotional releases like many others have described. I knew I had a hard head but I didn't realize it would be this hard to crack!

Ditto Pete02, in my case with the TV film, it usually has to do with feeling pride in what the person has done at that moment in the movie. This lack of letting go, seems that we're the 'stubborn ones'. :lol: I recall a post by Laura earlier in this thread, saying she had the same thing (or words to that effect) - stubbornness - so we're in good company and Laura eventually released it all. So, as I keep saying to myself, 'patience'. :D
 
Trevrizent said:
Pete02 said:
Bud on Yesterday at 02:48:13 AM said:
A change I have noticed is that I tear up and sort of weep quietly most of the time when I encounter emotional things. This is particularly true now any time my wife and I watch a TV show or a movie. At points where there is great joy, sadness, dedication, honor, integrity, etc. I start tearing and weeping. I can't explain it but there it is Smiley

Same here except for the TV and movie thing. Mostly when the subject has to do with genuine communication from the heart...and even more so since I committed to the EE a little while back.

I have had this happen to me during movies as well. It pretty much has been with me most of my life but since the E/E it has surfaced much more. The only thing that bothers me is that I just can't seem to let it go. I've tried to just cry it out sometimes but theres like a wall just holding it all in that I just can't seem to break. I tear and get emotional, but when I try to let go, nothing. I was thinking that this was one of the emotional blocks that the E/E would help me release and maybe it still, will but nothing yet. Even when I'm doing the E/E, my eyes tear up on a regular basis but I haven't had any emotional releases like many others have described. I knew I had a hard head but I didn't realize it would be this hard to crack!

Ditto Pete02, in my case with the TV film, it usually has to do with feeling pride in what the person has done at that moment in the movie. This lack of letting go, seems that we're the 'stubborn ones'. :lol: I recall a post by Laura earlier in this thread, saying she had the same thing (or words to that effect) - stubbornness - so we're in good company and Laura eventually released it all. So, as I keep saying to myself, 'patience'. :D

when I read about 'Not letting go' and stubborn ness mentioned in C's sessions, I never thought I had the same problem. when I think about it, when you mention this, I recognize that, I had the exact problem. why didn't I recognize it earlier ?. Probably I was not consciously thinking. It looks like I should ask my self, for things to come out. Not Projecting , Just a means of the recognizing the stuff which are hiding. It sounds like a true mirroring session.
 
seek10 said:
Trevrizent said:
Pete02 said:
Bud on Yesterday at 02:48:13 AM said:
A change I have noticed is that I tear up and sort of weep quietly most of the time when I encounter emotional things. This is particularly true now any time my wife and I watch a TV show or a movie. At points where there is great joy, sadness, dedication, honor, integrity, etc. I start tearing and weeping. I can't explain it but there it is Smiley

Same here except for the TV and movie thing. Mostly when the subject has to do with genuine communication from the heart...and even more so since I committed to the EE a little while back.

I have had this happen to me during movies as well. It pretty much has been with me most of my life but since the E/E it has surfaced much more. The only thing that bothers me is that I just can't seem to let it go. I've tried to just cry it out sometimes but theres like a wall just holding it all in that I just can't seem to break. I tear and get emotional, but when I try to let go, nothing. I was thinking that this was one of the emotional blocks that the E/E would help me release and maybe it still, will but nothing yet. Even when I'm doing the E/E, my eyes tear up on a regular basis but I haven't had any emotional releases like many others have described. I knew I had a hard head but I didn't realize it would be this hard to crack!

Ditto Pete02, in my case with the TV film, it usually has to do with feeling pride in what the person has done at that moment in the movie. This lack of letting go, seems that we're the 'stubborn ones'. :lol: I recall a post by Laura earlier in this thread, saying she had the same thing (or words to that effect) - stubbornness - so we're in good company and Laura eventually released it all. So, as I keep saying to myself, 'patience'. :D

when I read about 'Not letting go' and stubborn ness mentioned in C's sessions, I never thought I had the same problem. when I think about it, when you mention this, I recognize that, I had the exact problem. why didn't I recognize it earlier ?. Probably I was not consciously thinking. It looks like I should ask my self, for things to come out. Not Projecting , Just a means of the recognizing the stuff which are hiding. It sounds like a true mirroring session.

I hear ya! I know its gonna take some time due to the fact that my whole life I was pressured to not cry and to try to be a man about things so no one would think I was a sissy or pushover and on top of that, I've had many relationships that were not based on love and very hurtful to me in the end. So I know this feeling of love I have is in there, I can feel it, I've just hidden it down deep to try and protect myself from ever being hurt again. With time tho the E/E will help me release it I'm sure. ;)
 
fwiw I'm starting to think I fit into the same category. I had some emotional outpouring when I first started the E-E program, but nothing major...and no outpourings since.
I am starting to feel more in contact with my emotions though, and more emotional in general. A few weeks ago I had major fear regarding an 'emotional outpouring' but this seems to have faded.
I'm starting to think that we have to build a few internal bridges to our emotions, and feel safe enough within ourselves to be able to let them out finally.
Its a bit like a Chinese finger trap...the more you force it the tighter you get stuck. We've got to learn to relax....and feel safe relaxing.
I didn't notice until just now that that's exactly what I've been doing with the meditation......I'll go so far it seems but keep stopping myself at some level. Guess that part of me needs to learn its safe, and that can only come in time with practice and patience.
Like a toddler learning to walk, learning to find its feet. But also needing to provide the love, patience and guidance the parent would too.....hm
No parent would rush/push its child to learn to walk...so we should take the same approach with learning to feel emotions fully, osit.
 
RedFox said:
Like a toddler learning to walk, learning to find its feet. But also needing to provide the love, patience and guidance the parent would too.....hm
No parent would rush/push its child to learn to walk...so we should take the same approach with learning to feel emotions fully, osit.

I think that is very important, and also something that I am trying to learn how to apply myself. Learning to respect one's own pace. It is very tempting, particularly in a fast results society to expect them, which will lead to highjacking the process. I see myself doing it all the time and I can also understand how it leads to corrupting and forcing what can't be forced.
Somethings have their own pace, and just can't be pushed onto a certain time frame, for they are prone to become resistant to any change.

What I have often experienced in the past, was when something would not give me the outcome I was expecting (oh, dear anticipation...), or would just not give me some sort of obvious and immediate result, I would become impatient and sometimes discard the process. Looking back, I've lost many opportunities for growth, for trying to direct a process that has its own course. I feel that I've gotten better at it in certain aspects, but in others, this behaviour is still very, very strong....I wonder whether this would be a wrong use from the intellectual centre, as in, the intellectual centre overpowering something that is not from its range. Hmmm...

Trevrizent said:
So, as I keep saying to myself, 'patience'. Grin

Yes, I agree. It is important to trust in the pace of the process, something that I am also trying to learn.
 
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