Éiriú-Eolas - Breathing Program

[Rhys]

Hi Gertrudes, I experienced something very similar to the "ball type feeling" in my chest, just behind the bottom of my sternum during the round breathing. It became intense enough to cause great discomfort and restrict my breathing, especially during the fast part. The pain subsided during POTS, though. I think what you say about the feeling being there constantly before in a milder form reflects my own experience of it (in fact, I'm feeling it right now as I write this). Maybe this is something I will be dealing with soon? Thanks for posting about it.

Hi Rhys, that's interesting.
Your experience does seem similar to mine, I remember feeling it quite intensively whenever I would think about it, such as what you described when writing your post.

Well, what I can say for myself is that the "ball type feeling" began to subside after it got so strong that I went through an emotional turmoil. This led me to take a couple of major decisions. From then on I can't say that I have been feeling calmer or more relaxed, but quite the opposite. I've been progressively being submerged in emotions, as if they are coming from the bone marrow onto the surface of my skin. And It doesn't seem that this is going to end any soon.

You might go through something entirely different, it will be interesting to see how your experience will unfold :)

Hi again Gertrudes, I wouldn't be surprised if my experience mirrors yours somewhat. Presently, talking about this ball in my chest is sending my stomach into somersaults - I think there are feelings that a part of me is doing it's utmost to suppress. I'm currently taking notes of childhood memories that are coming back to me slowly and attempting to build up a picture of how the feelings surrounding these experiences have shaped me. I know there are events I haven't acknowledged yet and "Trapped In The Mirror" is helping me uncover these things, along with EE.

I think I would have Swamped about some of this already if I hadn't have let my "worthlessness" program find reasons for me not to mention anything, but I feel I need to do more research on this (my post NEEDS to be "perfect" ).

I'll keep you posted! :)

 

[cubbex]

I have read the Eiru Eolas faq

The last months I felt very angry, and mad and I was like Hulk, a mean Hulk that didn't love betty

But now I'm like, happy, like with power and I think is because I met someone that make me to do not feel so alone, I tell to myself that I don't need ithers to be happy, just to learn and live and you know... but I think I was wrong because from september 2009 to january 2010 I was living without a friend, now I have one and I feel better, like if someone get in to my life and I don't feel so much alone pain...

Do we realy need someone to be happy?

 

[shijing]

Hi cubbex --

Do we realy need someone to be happy?

I am not sure if you mean a romantic partner specifically, or if you mean friends and companions in general. I assume you mean the former, since you mention a time frame between September 2009 and January 2010; if that is the case then I think the short answer is no, although we are certainly programmed to think so. Having a companion in our life can provide a number of benefits, including providing additional experiences with which to do Work; nevertheless I think it is a fallacy that we cannot be happy if we are single, particularly if we have an aim and are using all of our experiences (whether they include a partner or not) in order to pursue it.

I am glad to hear that you have met someone who you feel happy with, although it is important to remember that your happiness does not depend on that person (although it can feel like it when all sorts of brain chemicals are involved, depending on the nature of the relationship). I am curious, though, why you posted this on the E/E thread since you don't mention it except mentioning briefly that you have read the E/E FAQ? Having been feeling very angry until you met this person, I think you should consider beginning the E/E program if you haven't already, and also look into the advice on diet and supplements in the Diet and Health section, as these things can affect our feelings and moods every bit as much as our human interactions.

 

[SeekinTruth]

Hi everyone. I finally caught up on this thread. I'm glad people are having some breakthroughs. And I wish the best for those having health issues and other difficulties to get through them best for their specific lessons.

I will check out the new EE forum on the dedicated EE site and register. And as time allows also post old stuff from here besides participating in the new discussions.

I've been having some pretty deep meditations in the last couple of weeks. And a few longer zone outs here and there that I hadn't had in a while. As I mentioned before elsewhere, I've been REALLY busy and began skipping the full program sometimes and also just pipe breath and POTS every night. I pretty much never skipped since starting with the program when it first came out, and in the first several weeks, I was doing the full program every day or almost every day. But in the last month or so, depending on how pressed with time and tired I am, I skip the full program sometimes (sometimes making it up on another day, other than Mon or Thur) and also the POTS at night before sleep. Hope to be able to get back to more regular schedule, but I notice that the meditation is deeper and seems new again from skipping occasionally.

 

[okiron]

Hello All,
You know ever since I made a decision (still in the works) to pass out the EE program, at my work place, it seems, odd events are exhilarating. For example, today we had an incident connecting with "identity thief". It was used to purchase our most expensive items, items ranging up to thousands of dollars and it was later apparent, the same MO were used these past two days. We at the time thought "wow" our retail sells were going UP! But on the third day (today) we "smell a rat"... something fishy was going on.... it's just to good to be true! So we dug abet further this time around. We called the Credit Card company and explained our situation, and to see, if any foil play were at hand and sure enough there were! So we called the police and the events unfolded from there on.
It's still kinda confusing to me, how they manage to get verification number through the phone to finalize a credit card approval for the purchases. But to make a long story short. We did recovered some 6,000. dollars worth, but however the previous sells (past two days) are pretty much at a lost, some 10,000. dollars worth. :O
These kinds of "attacks" and "petty tyrants" touching my life right now seems to have accelerated (effects of doing the EE program?), or so I think. I also think "vigilance" is in order more so than before. ;)
Sorry, if my explanation aren't that clear. I'm not very good at explaining things in details but I do try to make the effort. :)
okiron

 

[pete02]

Sorry to hear about your misfortune okiron (no pun intended). It seems many of us have been hit in the pocket one way or another recently. My check just recently started being garnished for taxes from 2005 that I already paid and now I have to prove it while they keep deducting! Then theres my brother whos not even a member and out of nowhere he just got notified that he owes $10,000 for a doctors bill he thought was paid!

Hang in there, stick with the E/E and I agree with you, vigilance is always in order! ;)

 

[Chu]

Replying to myself here, as a reminder to everyone who hasn't posted anything on the EE forum yet:

Please, everyone, try to post all your updates on the EE forum; like Laura asked twice. Very few of you have been doing so.

We have recently been getting quite a few e-mails from people starting the program, and have been inviting them to join the forum. If they see it as being quite inactive, they won't dare to join. So we need all you input! You can copy and paste old posts of yours, just editing if necessary depending on whether they contain comments about hyperdimensional stuff or the Cs (remember that we don't want to sound like weirdos in that forum ;))

With your experience with EE, you would be doing a great service helping people there. :D

Thank you!

It is just a copy and paste really. Try to post as much as possible on the EE forum. If newbies see it as not being very active, they won't join! And we need to be spreading EE much more.

 

[Zadius Sky]

It is just a copy and paste really. Try to post as much as possible on the EE forum. If newbies see it as not being very active, they won't join! And we need to be spreading EE much more.

Maybe Bo can re-post this thread, Eíriú-Eolas - Guide/FAQ, on the EE forum? Modifying it per your request and such?

 

[Chu]

Maybe Bo can re-post this thread, Eíriú-Eolas - Guide/FAQ, on the EE forum? Modifying it per your request and such?

I think that's a great idea! Newbies are asking some of the questions covered in there. So it would be very useful. :D

 

[okiron]

Sorry to hear about your misfortune okiron (no pun intended). It seems many of us have been hit in the pocket one way or another recently. My check just recently started being garnished for taxes from 2005 that I already paid and now I have to prove it while they keep deducting! Then theres my brother whos not even a member and out of nowhere he just got notified that he owes $10,000 for a doctors bill he thought was paid!

Hang in there, stick with the E/E and I agree with you, vigilance is always in order! ;)

Hmmm you know Pete02, even with these kinds of money related incidents, I'm still able to function and live at a somewhat above "poverty" level. Which is kinda odd in itself, cause my track record would show otherwise. As an example, my previous home is in the process of foreclosure (like so many people now a days) and all the circumstances that arise to meet such a foreclosure were inevitable. But within the experiencing of these circumstances, arrives an opportunity ("C" influences?), in which, I could have easily bypassed under the stressfull pressure, but I think and thinking in retrospect, vigilance came at the right moment in
time/place/situation, where I was able to SEE or glimpse at an opportunity presenting itself and I took it. Of course, it's only in retrospect that I recall this involvement of it all and somewhat written down in words/sharing, it's miraculous to say the least and how little I appreciated it at the time.
okiron

 

[abstract]

Please, everyone, try to post all your updates on the EE forum; like Laura asked twice. Very few of you have been doing so.

We have recently been getting quite a few e-mails from people starting the program, and have been inviting them to join the forum. If they see it as being quite inactive, they won't dare to join. So we need all you input! You can copy and paste old posts of yours, just editing if necessary depending on whether they contain comments about hyperdimensional stuff or the Cs (remember that we don't want to sound like weirdos in that forum )

With your experience with EE, you would be doing a great service helping people there.

Thank you!

I'm all registered and dropped a couple posts to boot. It's lookin' pretty skimpy over there, guys, serious, we got mmmm not even ten topics on these boards! I'm sure we all got lots of distractions but if everyone just posts a little bit, it'll add up.

So c'mon, let's see some enthusiasm! :D

 

[Mixtli]

Hello All. I will try and post in the EE Forum. I have been doing the EE program twice a week for some months now. I had a somewhat emotionally rough beginning of year due mostly to work or lack of it. But so far so good. I have been feeling calmer. I guess the thing with me is that as I decided to stay out of the 9 to 5 type of job the thing with money has been an on and off thing. My wife and I have not been out of money. But trying to start building our house and being in the middle of our pregnancy has been a little bit stressful. I design books and art catalogues and have started a sort of atèlier with a friend/client/artist and it seems promising. The thing is some days there is not much work. And I have a natural/genetically tendency to be reactive and no proactive. This sometimes takes an emotional toll on me because my wife works all day. So I stay at home working and not being very stressed which makes me feel guilty. I have been trying to get some kind of guidance while I meditate at the last part of the EE program. I am not a bad professional at all and I know that somehow work has to come in the way and it does from time to time. It is just that I can not return to a regular job. Salaries around here are terrible also the working hours. So i guess I need to be a little bit more useful by, I do not know, helping as a translator here in the forum. Thanks in advance for any input.

 

[shijing]

I wanted to share a little bit more about my E/E experience today beyond what I posted in the E/E forum here:

http://eiriu-eolas.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=42

In regard to the following from today's session:

A: “Guest” has lived in a remarkably narcissistic bubble for some time despite all our encouragement. Admitting it, seeing it, atoning by awakening true conscience is essential, and soon. Constant observing of the self and journaling and other contemplation. Perhaps Ark will share some of his journals. You have a similar nature though he is more naturally empathic. Beware, there is a "cutoff" point past which there are no further opportunities in this life.

I have slowly but surely been coming to a realization of my own that I have had a similar issue throughout my life, where bad things (or perceived bad things) happened to me, and instead of dealing with them as lessons (especially when they were emotionally charged), I chose to pity myself and project blame onto others, thereby abandoning many opportunities to grow as well as hurting people who were important to me. Had I paid more attention to feedback from others -- friends and family, in particular -- I probably would have realized this sooner, but when feeling sorry for yourself, it is very easy to ignore or deflect such feedback, especially if your loved ones are holding back out of consideration for your feelings because they feel sorry for you too. For any situation that I still have some influence over, my first reaction is to do what I can, if possible, to rectify it; even more important seems to be what is recommended above, awakening true conscience.

I'm sharing this on the E/E thread because reading this part of the session this morning provided a good shock, which stayed with me until I did E/E this afternoon when things kind of clicked into place and I felt like I assimilated as much as I was able to for now. Thanks again to "Guest" (who I assume is probably a forum member and can read this) for being the conduit for this advice, even if you didn't necessarily expect the session to take this personal turn :)

 

[Lucius]

hey all

I dont have internet at home ( must wait to next month )

I'm starting read ark journal to start dream work.

when I do full EE I have lots of dream ( about 2-4 per night )

now I'm observing myself , healthy eating. and of course EE program.

Can someone tell me Can we do "screwing around" Spiral movement I don't remember where it was ( Session ) . And when we can start using Spirit board ? there was information at 2008/2009 that Laura is making FAQ about using spirit board.

Greeting.

 

[Tigersoap]

So yesterday night I did the round breathing and the POTS.

While doing the round breathing, I started to drift off and I was hearing noises and seeing images, I don't know for sure, it seemed to be a red desert but it was the noise that brought me back, it sounded like some sort of rumbled speech with a metallic twinge in it, it's really hard to describe. I was really surprised and came back to continue the breathing.

I zoned out pretty good while doing the POTS.

I'll try to do it earlier to see if it makes a difference, for a change, because I am maybe too tired in the evening anyway.