Éiriú-Eolas - Breathing Program

[Harold]

This is good to hear. The Ba-ha breath is very powerful, and it is important that the physical body be in shape to handle the energies it can release. I don't think even the Chateau crew generally do it more than twice a week. If you look after your diet and follow the program as given, you will make very good progress in a even, (mostly) steady manner. Remember there is useful suffering and useless suffering.

Carry on with extra attention to your diet. You're doing fine. :)

Herondancer

???? This is interesting. I would like some clairification on your comment Herondancer. Maybe I need to pay more attention.(Harold? Pay more attention???...naw!!! ) But I do not see any postings from the Chateau Crew about this. Also, on the EE site and here, there is no indication of this. Not doing the ba-ha portion every day. I think this to be crucial point. Other than a comment here and there(which you have to read every post to get), the impression I receive is to do it every time you do the EE. And to do it every day, if possible. :)

cheers
harold

 

[Gawan]

Maybe skip Beatha for the next two sessions and see if that helps?

I give that a go too, thanks.




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Oh, I did unfortunately edit this message instead of replying one.

 

[Ollie]

You really have shed an ocean of tears this past year Trevrizent :)

I enjoyed reading what Clarissa Pinkola Estés had to say about tears in Women Who Run With The Wolves:

...
There are times in a woman's life when she cries and cries and cries, and even though she has the succor and support of her loved ones, still and yet she cries. Something in this crying keeps the predator away, keeps away unhealthy desire or gain that will ruin her. Tears are part of the mending of rips in the psyche where energy has leaked and leaked away. The matter is serious, but the worst does not occur - our light is not stolen - for tears make us conscious. There is no chance to go back to sleep when one is weeping. Whatever sleep comes then is only rest for the physical body.

Sometimes a woman says, "I am sick of crying, I am tired of it, I want it to stop." But it is her soul that is making tears, and they are her protection. So she must keep on till the time of need is over. Some women marvel at all the water their bodies can produce when they weep. This will not last forever, only till the soul is done with its wise expression. ...

The above quote is what I'm banking on. plus E-E!!! I've even had tears in my eyes when laughing too, :), no 'weeping' as yet, hopefully there will be more to come too :) when my emotions come out of a lifetime of hibernation.

 

[Gawan]

Hello Harold,

???? This is interesting. I would like some clairification on your comment Herondancer. Maybe I need to pay more attention.(Harold? Pay more attention???...naw!!! ) But I do not see any postings from the Chateau Crew about this. Also, on the EE site and here, there is no indication of this. Not doing the ba-ha portion every day. I think this to be crucial point. Other than a comment here and there(which you have to read every post to get), the impression I receive is to do it every time you do the EE. And to do it every day, if possible. :)

cheers
harold

It may also just be a comment, the ba-ha portion is very intensive as already stated by Herondancer.

This can be found in the EE guide:

Q: How often should I practice Éiriú-Eolas?

A: Generally it is recommended you complete the entire program twice per week and the
meditation daily, preferably before sleeping. This allows your subconscious to process while
you rest. Also, you may perform Pipe Breath daily, as desired.

The worldwide Éiriú-Eolas community has chosen Monday and Thursday evenings for
completing the whole program, each in their own time zone. If you are ill or dealing with a
specific problem, you might want to complete the entire program daily for a while.

But I wouldn't force it doing it every day, step by step so to speak, because your body has also get used to it, your emotions etc.

Somehow a quote came to my mind when reading your post and I hope this may be of help for you.

A: [...] You see when you speed too quickly in the process of learning and gathering knowledge; it is like skipping down the road without pausing to reflect on the ground beneath you. One misses the gold coins and the gemstones contained within the cracks in the road. […]

:)

 

[Harold]

Yes, it is easier said than done. The clearer you are internally about your Aim, the more you can keep it in focus, the easier it will be. It can also help to think back to past relationships that took you away from that Aim, if you have any. If not, think about the concrete details of entering into a relationship with someone who isn’t involved in the work. Think about the long-term implications.Are you being fair to her if you are acting on your chemicals?

So just to clarify, is it the position of the network that entering into any relationship is negative? Is the idea that until one has expanded their being they are unable to determine whether a potential relationship can be colinear or harmful? If so, does one ever get to the point where they can see beyond their chemical reactions and can determine whether a potential relationship could be mutually beneficial? Or does a relationship need to begin out of the Work in order to have the hope of being colinear?
I'm just wondering if I'm moving down the path of a monk here. Maybe these questions would be better addressed in a separate thread.

Hi Dugdeep, I can relate to your post here. This goes for Infiniteness, NDS and others struggling with physical/emotional entanglements, lust, urges, attraction to those we are sexually oriented towards and so fourth.

FWIW.... here's my Loonies(that's what we call a dollar here in the great white north) worth. So its only really worth 2 cents anyways.

Watch the Matrix movie. There is a scene where they are in a training program, in public, loads of people, a beautiful, buxom, blond woman in a red dress walks by, Neo is mesmerized by her and follows her with a glazed over gaze. Cant blame him, after all.....

The Matrix is a system, Neo. That system is our enemy. But when you're inside, you look around, what do you see? Businessmen, teachers, lawyers, carpenters. The very minds of the people we are trying to save. But until we do, these people are still a part of that system and that makes them our enemy. You have to understand, most of these people are not ready to be unplugged. And many of them are so injured, so hopelessly dependent on the system, that they will fight to protect it.

[Neo's eyes suddenly wander towards a woman in a red dress]

Were you listening to me, Neo? Or were you looking at the woman in the red dress?

Ya Neo, whad are ya! New or somthin!

I was...

[gestures with one hand] Look again.

[the woman in the red dress is now Agent Smith, pointing a gun at Neo's head; Neo ducks]

Freeze it.

[Everybody and everything besides Neo,Harold and Morpheus freezes in time]

Ya Neo! Ya numbnuts! Ya almost got yer head blown off!

This... this isn't the Matrix?

No Neo.... its the Playboy Channel!

No. It is another training program designed to teach you one thing: which is what Harold actually means to say Neo, is, if your not one of us, your one of them.

Yea Neo! So pay attention!!!!

Thank-you for your input Harold, you can leave the movie now.

But! Morpheus! I was just gonna....

HAROLD!!! GO!

ok..... alright..... by Neo!

Later Harold...much later

bye Morpheus!

Good.....bye.... Harold!

Cool! I always wanted to be in that movie....

Another scene from the movie:

When you see an Agent Neo, you do what we do, when we see an Agent .....Run..... don't stop.....don't look back....run for your life!

IMO, relationships can be the biggest distraction to the 'reality' of what is going on around us.

Other things I ponder regarding relationships is;

Look at all the disharmony, divorce etc. Spousal abuse. I believe in the institution of marriage, I believe in 2 persons coming together and sharing their lives.

Not to mention, relationships eventually lead to.... babies, and does this world really need another mouth to feed?

But too, consider how the PTB's have twisted and manipulated these wonderful unions.

No offence to the ladies out there, but lets take feminism for example... Don't get me wrong here, I am all for equality amongst humans, animals etc. But feminism has created a separation between the sexes.

Feminism is just a means to an end. What is the end? 3 major initiatives.
1) get more people in the work force.
2) put money in the hands of women to spend and consume more.
3) get women to smoke cigarettes.

We have Edward Bernays to thank for this.... the grand'daddy'(a male) of feminism.

http://www.socialbranding.org/sb/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=118&Itemid=50
http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2008/10/14/the-smoking-feminist/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Bernays
http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/44.html .....this is a good video

and here is the Holy Grail(Holograph? Holy Grail? DNA! The serpent wound around the tree with.... EVE! The Egyptian icon that later became the symbol(cymbal! loud sound... wake up!) for the medical industry, look carefully for the double helix...hmmmm), right from Bernays himself.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-TYCXnAaZU

So whats my point? Well back to the Matrix....

The Matrix is everywhere. It is all around us. Even now, in this very room. You can see it when you look out your window or when you turn on your television. You can feel it when you go to work... when you go to church... when you pay your taxes. It is the world that has been pulled over your eyes to blind you from the truth.

What truth?

That you are a slave, Neo. Like everyone else you were born into bondage. Into a prison that you cannot taste or see or touch. A prison for your mind.

I'll just leave it here for now as I am having to much anxiety.

cheers
Harold

 

[ana]

I'll just leave it here for now as I am having to much anxiety.
cheers
Harold

Hi Harold,

You may want to stop posting for some time, we are worried for you because of the up and downs you seem to be experiencing, so please try to relax and if needed call to someone who can be with you in person. :)

 

[Harold]

who? I dont have anyone. Im trying to cuddle with my dogs, I feel silly, I do not think this but maybe I have to much seratonin, or maybe I am diabetic, I am hypoglycemic, at least I was diagnosed that 2 decades ago.

must eat apples....mmmmmm apples

 

[Approaching Infinity]

Yes, it is easier said than done. The clearer you are internally about your Aim, the more you can keep it in focus, the easier it will be. It can also help to think back to past relationships that took you away from that Aim, if you have any. If not, think about the concrete details of entering into a relationship with someone who isn’t involved in the work. Think about the long-term implications.Are you being fair to her if you are acting on your chemicals?

So just to clarify, is it the position of the network that entering into any relationship is negative? Is the idea that until one has expanded their being they are unable to determine whether a potential relationship can be colinear or harmful? If so, does one ever get to the point where they can see beyond their chemical reactions and can determine whether a potential relationship could be mutually beneficial? Or does a relationship need to begin out of the Work in order to have the hope of being colinear?

I'm just wondering if I'm moving down the path of a monk here. Maybe these questions would be better addressed in a separate thread.

As Kniall already said, it is not a simple issue. Laura wrote a really good section in the Wave, here: http://www.cassiopaea.org/cass/wave13h.htm

Basically, the primary reason we get in relationships in the first place is a result of "love myths", programs that have been instilled in us by family and society.

When we believe the Love Myths, we inevitably become involved with people we are not really compatible with. We feel constantly empty, and none of our needs are fulfilled. And, at the same time, even if we are trying to fulfill their needs, they always seem to know that it is an effort to get them to fulfill our needs, and the relationship has nowhere to go but down.

And then we are faced with the next Love Myth problem: We stay in the relationship longer than we should and have trouble letting go of a partner who, in moments of cold clarity, we realize are NOT right for us. We do this because we are taught to do it. We see the examples set for us as children; we are rewarded for not being a "quitter," and are inculcated in the belief that "a promise is a promise," and keeping promises, at whatever cost to us, is rewarded, and breaking them will result in dire consequences. The family pressures of our social and cultural beliefs come into play strongly here, and we are convinced that we must always sacrifice our wants and needs for those of others. We must "suffer" to be "good," and to be "rewarded." We live our lives like Dicken's Oliver saying: "I want more." And we want more because we are starved and drained, and manipulated to suffer so as to be "food" for 4th density STS.

Of course, at the beginning of many relationships, everything may seem fine, but it's often the case that one partner grows and progresses, while the other does not, which can lead to situations like the above. What at first seemed like a colinear relationship turns out not to be one. However, each relationship is different, and the third law always needs to be applied.

 

[Breton]

And in these painful moments, no matter how horrible it is to see, my real I always finds the strength to say to the universe, "Please, show more more; show me everything."

Amen to that :)

Hear hear!

 

[Infiniteness]

Could it be that the idea to "just to get to know her and become friends with her” is a twist of the predator?

It does seem to be a twist from my predator, but there is also something else that is fueling this and that is my loneliness at the moment. How I got here is a long story, but I will write a brief summary about it (I will post up the whole story later on in the swamp). Up to the 7th grade, I had a lot of friends and spent most of my days playing outside with them. This all changed when I moved to a city nearby, when I moved here I meet new friends or so called "friends", but they were actually bullies. Throughout my high school years I was harassed psychically and psychologically by these bullies, which ruined my reputation and created psychological problems for me. After witnessing all this pain, I disconnected myself from society expect from a few people. (Sharing this was hard for me, it feels like I told one of my darkest secrets)

Now it seems like I have barriers in place that are there to protect myself from people that are out there to harm me. So I know that I have to work on myself to remove these barriers and work through my problems. Maybe the time is not right for me to meet new people or this person in particular.

Yes, it is easier said than done. The clearer you are internally about your Aim, the more you can keep it in focus, the easier it will be. It can also help to think back to past relationships that took you away from that Aim, if you have any. If not, think about the concrete details of entering into a relationship with someone who isn’t involved in the work. Think about the long-term implications.Are you being fair to her if you are acting on your chemicals?

No I do not think I am being fair. Chemistry is probably the reason why I didn’t “block” her(that sounds a little funny). I will have to do more thinking on this issue, but thank you for your input Galahad.

I just wanted to talk about the programs that were running inside of me, when I got no response to my post. At first I thought I made a mistake in my post or my post was just noise or somehow I went off topic, a lot of self doubt. Then I just observed myself seeing how my thought process was and I also noticed that I was also seeking food or attention. So it seemed it was a combination of self doubt and seeking attention, basically self importance. Its interesting to see how are predator and programs make us feel so desperate at times, even to the point that we start doing irrational things.

there are some interesting programs that kick in when one posts, and waits for the expected replies (praise, attention...) , and none come! self doubt, anticipation, "am I unworthy?" etc, and they are often manifestations of self importance.

generally, I would say that if there are no replies after a few days, then maybe it is because you have already covered the subject just fine, and no further input is needed! Of course it could also be that the message has slipped through the net and been missed, or it may be in some cases that it is recognised that someone is looking to feed off attention and so 'tough love' is applied, by not providing that 'food'.

This quote really helped me deal with my programs or a least see what was going on more clearly.

As of right now I find myself in a tug of war with myself, on whether I should go meet her or not. I know mostly my chemistry and predator is fueling this attraction/pull, but its seems the "chemistry" is getting in the way of my thinking. I suppose I could take this opportunity, just to get to know her and become friends with her.

Or you could take the opportunity to do nothing. :)

After thinking for a while, I’ve decided not to take the opportunity, I tried looking at the situation in every angle I could. The first main reason why I decided this was not for me, was that this whole situation felt like an attack. The second reason was that it was just my mechanical mechanisms at work, for the most part. Then third being that it would take a lot of my energy and time away from working on myself. After making this decision it feels like Ive lost a big opportunity or chance in my life, I believe that this is also my predator at work again. Time was also something that I considered while making this decision, time is running out fast and I need to give it my all, in order to make the most progress I can with helping myself and others. So now I need to get refocused on the destination that I intend to reach, home. Thanks for reading.
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[Nienna]

After thinking for a while, I’ve decided not to take the opportunity, I tried looking at the situation in every angle I could. The first main reason why I decided this was not for me, was that this whole situation felt like an attack. The second reason was that it was just my mechanical mechanisms at work, for the most part. Then third being that it would take a lot of my energy and time away from working on myself. After making this decision it feels like Ive lost a big opportunity or chance in my life, I believe that this is also my predator at work again. Time was also something that I considered while making this decision, time is running out fast and I need to give it my all, in order to make the most progress I can with helping myself and others. So now I need to get refocused on the destination that I intend to reach, home. Thanks for reading.
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That bolded part of your post, Infiniteness, is what I am agreeing with.

Whenever you have a thought similar to that, such as, I'm really missing out on ______________, or, gee, I wish I could be like every one else and _______________, as yourself just what it is you are missing/wishing for. To be like the rest of the sleeping masses? For this is what you predator/programs are trying to drag you back to, going to sleep.

This is just how it looks to me, especially when I hear the old predator saying, "Gee, I could be doing ____________ like "they" are and enjoying myself." I can't think of anything more exciting than learning about myself, helping those who are truly asking and learning about what is really going on on this BBM. To me, this is quite the adventure!

And being alone is just a concept of the predator. We are not, in actuality alone. For one thing, we have this forum, and I think by participating on this forum, we are connecting in ways that we haven't discovered yet. This collinearity is something that is becoming far more intimate than anything that I could have with someone not in this group. The chemicals and hormones that make us "want" to be with someone that is not going in the same direction we are, to me, are very dangerous to what we are trying to accomplish with ourselves. But that's just me. Also, any hour of the day/night, there will be someone here. Not tangible and face to face, I know, but I don't think it is necessary at this stage of the game. What we are trying to do at this point in time is to clean our machine from these negative thought loops and programs that are keeping us prisoner here. That takes time to do and if we are distracted by someone who wants all of our attention and time, when will we be able to do this?

This is just my take on it at this time. :)

 

[Human]

Whenever you have a thought similar to that, such as, I'm really missing out on ______________, or, gee, I wish I could be like every one else and _______________, as yourself just what it is you are missing/wishing for. To be like the rest of the sleeping masses? For this is what you predator/programs are trying to drag you back to, going to sleep.

This is just how it looks to me, especially when I hear the old predator saying, "Gee, I could be doing ____________ like "they" are and enjoying myself." I can't think of anything more exciting than learning about myself, helping those who are truly asking and learning about what is really going on on this BBM. To me, this is quite the adventure!

And being alone is just a concept of the predator. We are not, in actuality alone. For one thing, we have this forum, and I think by participating on this forum, we are connecting in ways that we haven't discovered yet. This collinearity is something that is becoming far more intimate than anything that I could have with someone not in this group. The chemicals and hormones that make us "want" to be with someone that is not going in the same direction we are, to me, are very dangerous to what we are trying to accomplish with ourselves. But that's just me. Also, any hour of the day/night, there will be someone here. Not tangible and face to face, I know, but I don't think it is necessary at this stage of the game. What we are trying to do at this point in time is to clean our machine from these negative thought loops and programs that are keeping us prisoner here. That takes time to do and if we are distracted by someone who wants all of our attention and time, when will we be able to do this?

This is just my take on it at this time. :)

Thank you Nienna Eluch for reminder and encouraging words.

 

[Infiniteness]

Thanks for the input Nienna Eluch and I agree. After reading the Cassiopea Glossary term for signal to noise ratio, I realized that I indeed was creating noise. So I just wanted to sincerely apologize to the forum for the noise that I created above.

 

[Luis Miguel]

Hi all, I don't really know were to put this, I want to tell you about an event that took place last night; I was doing the meditation and fell asleep without noticing, and the next thing of what I had awareness, was getting up all exalted with a very strong fear, almost "electrical", I sat down with my hearth bouncing like crazy and I felt a dark, heavy "presence" in the room, then I sat down in my bed and the first thing that I could think of was the Prayer of the Soul, so I tried to say the prayer, and my voice just didn't came out - maybe just suggestion or was result of the fear -, I had to put a lot of effort to actually say something, but since I began to say the prayer everything faded out and I get a calming feeling -all this in a period of a couple of minutes -. It was shocking to say the least, it has been a long time since I last experienced something similar. Maybe an inner battle of sorts? And as a matter of fact I feel somewhat depleted, with low energy :S.

 

[Ares]

Hi logos5x5,

Thanks for sharing that experience. It's very interesting because just yesterday I was reading on the net about 'shadow people' and this seems to be a very common phenomenon. You can find a thread on that in the forum. Some say it is just due to the way pheripheral vision works (when you view it via pheripheral vision), while others say that the half-sleep, half-awake state gives you hallucinations. My opinion is that it is entirely possible that our limits of consciousness is expanded a bit during this states and we can perceive a bit more due to altered states of awareness. Another other interesting and related fact is that UFO researches often report strange things happening to them when they try to dig too deep into the UFO research - I remember some lines from John Keel's Operation Trojan Horse saying he had strange apparitions 'visit' him in the middle of the night and other weird phenomena. So they may be all related in some way that as we try to expand our consciousness, we become more and more aware of all of the hidden things we cannot normally see.

Other forum members have shared similar experiences, however I have (thankfully!) not experienced anything like this. On those times I realize had gone to sleep and wake up in the middle of the night (after doing EE), I just go back to sleep again.

I think Laura mentioned in one of the threads that this was a result of doing the EE, and that the phenomenon may be part of you in some way, rather than something external.

Hope that helps :)