Éiriú-Eolas - Breathing Program

I've been thinking about the benefits I've gotten since starting the EE program in summer 2009. The benefits I saw very quickly when I started, as I've mentioned before and many others have experienced, include relaxed alertness, better concentration and focus, less obsessive behavior and thoughts, and seeming to have much more time/getting a lot more done in less time.

Now this last benefit, the getting more done in less time, has got me thinking for a while. I just came up with a hypothesis of what could explain it. The fact that there was a drastic reduction in obsessive thoughts and behaviors seems to be the clue. I think when there's much more obsessive-compulsive type activity in your life, you waste a great deal of time and energy doing things than you would if those obsessive-compulsive aspects went away or were greatly reduced.

Now, I was not diagnosed with obsessive-compulsive disorder or anything like that. It wasn't even on a high enough level to annoy other people, but still below clinical diagnosis level. It only annoyed me when I realized I was doing these things, but most often I didn't realize these were time wasting, useless activities (and thoughts) as I was doing them. But I'm figuring no matter how severe the obsessive-compulsive traits are in people, there should still be an improvement. And I know that the dietary changes can be a contributing factor due to brain chemical imbalances being fixed and works synergistically with the EE program, but I didn't make all the dietary changes right away when I started regular EE practice in summer of 2009. So it suggests that the EE even without the synergistic benefits of the diet must have these benefits by itself, because I noticed it right away before all the dietary changes were made.

I'll post this on the EE site forum as well.
 
Hello everyone, I"ve had a very positive experience with EE- and would like to share.

For the past 2 weeks I did EE 3x a week. This week was actually going to try it everyday. Did it on Monday- by Tuesday felt disgusted with everything
and hopeless- figured EE would be bad idea. By Tuesday evening was sitting on the couch crying, decided to listen to Bette Midler's- The Rose.
Listened to the song probably 20 times while crying more and singing in between sobs.

On Wednesday, my Dad came over for about 40 minutes. We laughed and talked with ease, probably for the first time in 24 years, maybe even this whole life.
24yrs ago he decided to determine my needs, at 21yrs old, he thought I needed a man in my life. Needless to say that man was a psychopath!
Lots of bad things happened, I ended up pregnant with my oldest son. I told the psychopath that I wouldn't live in fear. Gee, I even "dropped the gauntlet"
so to speak- told him I would send him back to prison(he had spent 12 years there) or kill him!

Anyway, what happened, him trying to get to me- He shot a girl that looked a lot like me and drove a car like mine... Shot her at point blank range in the head and killed her.

About 2 weeks later the psychopath was killed by some of his prison "friends". They cut his throat and burned the van they were in, trying to hide the evidence.

Fast forward 24yrs. I guess what I was processing on Tuesday night was all the hurt and anger at my Dad, that evidently I had harbored all those years.
Of course my Dad has done other things too, but that was the "big one".

I have no excuse for my ignorance, in listening to my Dad, always trying to do things his way, instead of standing up for myself. It has taken a year of EE for me
to be able to see a lot of things, and be able to release the hurt and anger, at myself and others.

Thank you, Laura and group for all your dedication. IT"S WORKING!!!!!!!!!!
 
anitasweetie said:
Hello everyone, I"ve had a very positive experience with EE- and would like to share.

For the past 2 weeks I did EE 3x a week. This week was actually going to try it everyday. Did it on Monday- by Tuesday felt disgusted with everything
and hopeless- figured EE would be bad idea. By Tuesday evening was sitting on the couch crying, decided to listen to Bette Midler's- The Rose.
Listened to the song probably 20 times while crying more and singing in between sobs.

On Wednesday, my Dad came over for about 40 minutes. We laughed and talked with ease, probably for the first time in 24 years, maybe even this whole life.
24yrs ago he decided to determine my needs, at 21yrs old, he thought I needed a man in my life. Needless to say that man was a psychopath!
Lots of bad things happened, I ended up pregnant with my oldest son. I told the psychopath that I wouldn't live in fear. Gee, I even "dropped the gauntlet"
so to speak- told him I would send him back to prison(he had spent 12 years there) or kill him!

Anyway, what happened, him trying to get to me- He shot a girl that looked a lot like me and drove a car like mine... Shot her at point blank range in the head and killed her.

About 2 weeks later the psychopath was killed by some of his prison "friends". They cut his throat and burned the van they were in, trying to hide the evidence.

Fast forward 24yrs. I guess what I was processing on Tuesday night was all the hurt and anger at my Dad, that evidently I had harbored all those years.
Of course my Dad has done other things too, but that was the "big one".

I have no excuse for my ignorance, in listening to my Dad, always trying to do things his way, instead of standing up for myself. It has taken a year of EE for me
to be able to see a lot of things, and be able to release the hurt and anger, at myself and others.

Thank you, Laura and group for all your dedication. IT"S WORKING!!!!!!!!!!

Woa anitasweetie You're lucky that you are alive after lived with that kind of person! I recommend you to read the 5 big psychology books dealing with narcissism and psychopaty. You clearly put your life at risk to please your father!
Are you familiar with the concept of petty tyrant? what happened to your husband reminds me the story of Don Juan and how his tyrant finished his days.
 
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Galaxia2002 said:
anitasweetie said:
Hello everyone, I"ve had a very positive experience with EE- and would like to share.

For the past 2 weeks I did EE 3x a week. This week was actually going to try it everyday. Did it on Monday- by Tuesday felt disgusted with everything
and hopeless- figured EE would be bad idea. By Tuesday evening was sitting on the couch crying, decided to listen to Bette Midler's- The Rose.
Listened to the song probably 20 times while crying more and singing in between sobs.

On Wednesday, my Dad came over for about 40 minutes. We laughed and talked with ease, probably for the first time in 24 years, maybe even this whole life.
24yrs ago he decided to determine my needs, at 21yrs old, he thought I needed a man in my life. Needless to say that man was a psychopath!
Lots of bad things happened, I ended up pregnant with my oldest son. I told the psychopath that I wouldn't live in fear. Gee, I even "dropped the gauntlet"
so to speak- told him I would send him back to prison(he had spent 12 years there) or kill him!

Anyway, what happened, him trying to get to me- He shot a girl that looked a lot like me and drove a car like mine... Shot her at point blank range in the head and killed her.

About 2 weeks later the psychopath was killed by some of his prison "friends". They cut his throat and burned the van they were in, trying to hide the evidence.

Fast forward 24yrs. I guess what I was processing on Tuesday night was all the hurt and anger at my Dad, that evidently I had harbored all those years.
Of course my Dad has done other things too, but that was the "big one".

I have no excuse for my ignorance, in listening to my Dad, always trying to do things his way, instead of standing up for myself. It has taken a year of EE for me
to be able to see a lot of things, and be able to release the hurt and anger, at myself and others.

Thank you, Laura and group for all your dedication. IT"S WORKING!!!!!!!!!!

Woa anitasweetie You're lucky that you are alive after lived with that kind of person! I recommend you to read the 5 big psychology books dealing with narcissism and psychopaty. You clearly put your life at risk to please your father!
Are you familiar with the concept of petty tyrant? what happened to your husband reminds me the story of Don Juan and how his tyrant finished his days.
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Thanks for replying, Galaxia2002
I haven't been able to get those books yet, but they are definitely on the list...
Our family life was so dysfunctional, The trying to please my Dad program, Did not end until just recently. Through reading the forum, EE, and something
inside that pushes me to never give up, mainly because I don't want this lifetime of pain to stand for nothing.
 
Hi, anitasweetie. Thanks for sharing your story. You ARE lucky to be alive with that pyschopathic murderer that came into your life so many years ago.

I'm so glad EE has helped you so much. It's truly an amazing program. I would say an amazing gift to humanity. Do be careful about doing it every day, if your emotional releases are too strong. You may have a huge wave of emotional turmoil as part of the processing, cleansing and releasing, if you over do it. So just be aware of that and keep networking here on the forum so that if you do have any overwhelming type of emotional releases, you can get feedback.

In any case if you feel like you are releasing too much to fast, cut back on how often you do the program or just the beatha/bio-energetic portion (Ba-Ha). Again, if you experiment with doing it more often than twice a week with the whole program, just be aware that you can have overwhelming emotional releases come on all at once, so you can experiment with doing it more often if you want but just do it wisely and know the possible results. If you in any way feel like the cleansing process is to much for you just cut back and take the slow and gentle approach. And we're always here for you if you need help and advise, so don't forget to network and ask for feedback whenever you need it.

Good luck with your adventures in healing.
 
Thank you Seeking Truth, for your reply.
Since Tuesday when I felt so out of sorts, then cried all evening, that showed me that I was bringing up something really big. Did not do EE tonight, and probably
won't until I feel like I am safely through this one... Came to forum, because I realized this was too much for me to handle alone.

Some of the things today: profuse sweating under the arms, body feels like a lump of lead, and a lot of recapping about childhood, and some tears, also a very
tight feeling all the way around at lower ribcage.
The funny thing is yesterday I felt like a butterfly :lol:
 
A fairly normal week of three-stage breathing and PotS, other than Wednesday midday, when, during PotS, I had several visions: either a younger Princess Margaret or the young Queen Elizabeth in head scarf in the country (showing my age); a stag wandering along the skyline of lofty wooded crag; and a cartoon character, skeletal with a long tail and hammer-like head at a refectory table. Weird!
 
anitasweetie said:
Thank you Seeking Truth, for your reply.
Since Tuesday when I felt so out of sorts, then cried all evening, that showed me that I was bringing up something really big. Did not do EE tonight, and probably
won't until I feel like I am safely through this one... Came to forum, because I realized this was too much for me to handle alone.

Some of the things today: profuse sweating under the arms, body feels like a lump of lead, and a lot of recapping about childhood, and some tears, also a very
tight feeling all the way around at lower ribcage.
The funny thing is yesterday I felt like a butterfly :lol:

anitasweetie, I'd like to suggest you try doing the three-stage (pipe breathing) breathing every day, if you can, and the POTS every night. Then do the Ba-Ha portion whenever if feels "right" for you to do it. The pipe breathing stimulates the vagus nerve which can really help in calming you down and helps in doing a whole lot more for you, your mind and body. It has a cumulative effect, the more you do it, the better you feel. And it is a fact that the POTS is very powerful in helping us to connect with that higher part of ourselves.

You have gone through a horrible time and I really think that doing these things will help you continue your "cleansing" process. And I agree with reading the psychology and psychopathology books. They are a real help in understanding what has/is going on. :hug:
 
Thanks, Nienna Eluch for the advice. My do it alone program has been really strong, but now I can recognize it and where it came from.

There is something different about me, I am not afraid to post anymore!!! :lol:

Will take your advice about the pipe breathing and POTS.

EE is very powerful and not to be taken lightly!!!
 
In recent weeks there was one peculiar thing that I've oberved: when doing the POTS I always lie flat on my back and my arms are at the sides of my body. When I reached a deeper meditative state I would suddenly feel my arms were in a different position. In reality, they were still in the normal position, but they felt as if they were crossed. I found that strange and thought there must be a reason for it.

Another thing is that in recent weeks I've felt an unpleasant tightness in the region of my left rib cage. I don't think it's to do with overdoing anything, because it was also present when I'd only do the POTS. Once I concentrated on it and imagined it to be a closed fist (as RedFox has described it) and the pressure got really strong. When however I imagined the fist to open, so that this pressure may leave, that didn't work.

I did the whole program yesterday, in another way than usually. Recent happenings and what they elicited in me, namely an upcoming of old unresolved pain and respective behavioural patterns, has left me in a state of having lost a certain mental security/construct; that is to say, before I would always struggle to have a constant overview of things, of my development, of the bigger picture. Now that this 'overview' is pretty much gone, I think this was all about control: wanting to have control over what happens with me. And this was a lack of trust in the universe.

So what I did yesterday was to repeatedly express to the universe that I wish to heal and whether She could assist me in healing and in accessing all these stuffed up feelings of pain from my past so I can work with them.
When I was doing the POTS I told Her I wish to trust Her and lay myself into Her arms and simply trust in the process, trust in Her; and I kind of opened up inside and presented myself in my entirety to Her. It was the first time I felt really close to Her. :love: And today I'm filled with tranquility and a new sense of hope. And: concerning my arms that previously I felt to be crossed: yesterday during the POTS I did not feel them to be crossed, but instead to be opening widely, and I felt that the space in the area of my belly was becoming wide and open and full of warmth.
 
That is really nice Puzzle. Perhaps this event is a milestone for you?
Your constant monitoring of your progress... now you understand it as a lack of faith in the universe. Interesting idea. Perhaps Im guilty of that too.
Nowadays I feel like Im just walking along a road. Have no idea of the final destination, just walking and trying to enjoy the trip.
 
Iron said:
Your constant monitoring of your progress... now you understand it as a lack of faith in the universe. Interesting idea.

Yes, and the crazy thing about it was that I felt very clever doing so, that is watching over my "progress", and I actually thought I had a close enough overview, lol.

Iron said:
Nowadays I feel like Im just walking along a road. Have no idea of the final destination, just walking and trying to enjoy the trip.

And I think this is the right way to go. Simply trusting in the process and leaving every tiny little mental concept at the door. Yes, this has been said many times already, but actually grokking it is something else entirely.

Actually, it seems like it's simply switching into the mode of the right brain hemisphere... DCM calling out to us: "Beloved! If you really want to heal and learn, then for God's sake, stop raping the Maiden of the Well!" ;)
 
It's a delicate balance, isn't it? Attentiveness vs. trying to direct things. Mme. de Salzmen talks a lot about this in her book, The Reality of Being.

I can't recommend this book enough. She takes you inside her own struggles to Work in such a warm human way. It's the distillation of her decades of Work. You want to underline everything she writes because each idea is expressed so clearly. I hope you will get a chance to read it.
 
Puzzle said:
When I was doing the POTS I told Her I wish to trust Her and lay myself into Her arms and simply trust in the process, trust in Her; and I kind of opened up inside and presented myself in my entirety to Her. It was the first time I felt really close to Her. :love: And today I'm filled with tranquility and a new sense of hope. And: concerning my arms that previously I felt to be crossed: yesterday during the POTS I did not feel them to be crossed, but instead to be opening widely, and I felt that the space in the area of my belly was becoming wide and open and full of warmth.
Puzzle said:
And I think this is the right way to go. Simply trusting in the process and leaving every tiny little mental concept at the door. Yes, this has been said many times already, but actually grokking it is something else entirely.

Puzzle, thanks for sharing this -- it's something that has been on my mind lately. herondancer is right that it can be a delicate balance, and as you say, it can be one thing to hear it and quite another to actually grok it. The experience you described is very inspirational :)

herondancer said:
I can't recommend this book enough. She takes you inside her own struggles to Work in such a warm human way. It's the distillation of her decades of Work. You want to underline everything she writes because each idea is expressed so clearly.

I wanted to second that -- I'm in the middle of it right now, and reading it slowly on purpose because there's so much to absorb. I can't recommend it enough either.
 
quick update. I am doing EE pretty regularly, I got some break in doing POTS before sleep during this week.
there is lot of crying while doing pipe breathing/Ba ha particularly before the sleep. Still Mind wanders a lot. Though I have identified lot of traumatic stuff, I still failed to relate it and was impatient with the oncoming stress. Stress issues in life ( work stress, issues related to lying, feeding the predator, unidentified programs that are associated with negative emotions and introject, Attacks ) are balancing out EE I was doing, I guess.

I have lot of bouts of intense negative emotions and EE doing good to wash out. I am not sure whether I have serious emotional release yet.

I was thinking of going to deep tissue massage therapy and see how it comes out.

herondancer said:
It's a delicate balance, isn't it? Attentiveness vs. trying to direct things. Mme. de Salzmen talks a lot about this in her book, The Reality of Being.

I can't recommend this book enough. She takes you inside her own struggles to Work in such a warm human way. It's the distillation of her decades of Work. You want to underline everything she writes because each idea is expressed so clearly. I hope you will get a chance to read it.

thank you herondancer for suggesting this. I have lot of doubts about the process. particularly how to be attentive consistently with out getting identified.
 
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