Éiriú-Eolas - Breathing Program

[Aiming]

It's a delicate balance, isn't it? Attentiveness vs. trying to direct things. Mme. de Salzmen talks a lot about this in her book, The Reality of Being.

I can't recommend this book enough. She takes you inside her own struggles to Work in such a warm human way. It's the distillation of her decades of Work. You want to underline everything she writes because each idea is expressed so clearly. I hope you will get a chance to read it.

thank you herondancer for suggesting this. I have lot of doubts about the process. particularly how to be attentive consistently with out getting identified.

I have the same problem and I'm looking forward to reading her book, so thank you for recommending it, herondancer and Shijing.


The pressure in the area of my left rib cage and descending is still there; now even when not doing EE; I guess it's stored trauma or other unresolved pain/emotion, but I have no idea yet what it relates to.

 

[Breton]

It's a delicate balance, isn't it? Attentiveness vs. trying to direct things. Mme. de Salzmen talks a lot about this in her book, The Reality of Being.

I can't recommend this book enough. She takes you inside her own struggles to Work in such a warm human way. It's the distillation of her decades of Work. You want to underline everything she writes because each idea is expressed so clearly. I hope you will get a chance to read it.

thank you herondancer for suggesting this. I have lot of doubts about the process. particularly how to be attentive consistently with out getting identified.

I have the same problem and I'm looking forward to reading her book, so thank you for recommending it, herondancer and Shijing.


The pressure in the area of my left rib cage and descending is still there; now even when not doing EE; I guess it's stored trauma or other unresolved pain/emotion, but I have no idea yet what it relates to.

Based on your comments here, I just ordered this book!

 

[pete02]

It's a delicate balance, isn't it? Attentiveness vs. trying to direct things. Mme. de Salzmen talks a lot about this in her book, The Reality of Being.

I can't recommend this book enough. She takes you inside her own struggles to Work in such a warm human way. It's the distillation of her decades of Work. You want to underline everything she writes because each idea is expressed so clearly. I hope you will get a chance to read it.

thank you herondancer for suggesting this. I have lot of doubts about the process. particularly how to be attentive consistently with out getting identified.

I have the same problem and I'm looking forward to reading her book, so thank you for recommending it, herondancer and Shijing.


The pressure in the area of my left rib cage and descending is still there; now even when not doing EE; I guess it's stored trauma or other unresolved pain/emotion, but I have no idea yet what it relates to.

Based on your comments here, I just ordered this book!

I too am looking forward to reading this book. I ordered it when you had first mentioned it but apparently Amazon is experiencing a bit of a backorder with it.

 

[Nienna]

quick update. I am doing EE pretty regularly, I got some break in doing POTS before sleep during this week.
there is lot of crying while doing pipe breathing/Ba ha particularly before the sleep. Still Mind wanders a lot. Though I have identified lot of traumatic stuff, I still failed to relate it and was impatient with the oncoming stress. Stress issues in life ( work stress, issues related to lying, feeding the predator, unidentified programs that are associated with negative emotions and introject, Attacks ) are balancing out EE I was doing, I guess.

I have lot of bouts of intense negative emotions and EE doing good to wash out. I am not sure whether I have serious emotional release yet.

I was thinking of going to deep tissue massage therapy and see how it comes out.

It's a delicate balance, isn't it? Attentiveness vs. trying to direct things. Mme. de Salzmen talks a lot about this in her book, The Reality of Being.

I can't recommend this book enough. She takes you inside her own struggles to Work in such a warm human way. It's the distillation of her decades of Work. You want to underline everything she writes because each idea is expressed so clearly. I hope you will get a chance to read it.

thank you herondancer for suggesting this. I have lot of doubts about the process. particularly how to be attentive consistently with out getting identified.

seek10, are you still going to therapy?

 

[seek10]

quick update. I am doing EE pretty regularly, I got some break in doing POTS before sleep during this week.
there is lot of crying while doing pipe breathing/Ba ha particularly before the sleep. Still Mind wanders a lot. Though I have identified lot of traumatic stuff, I still failed to relate it and was impatient with the oncoming stress. Stress issues in life ( work stress, issues related to lying, feeding the predator, unidentified programs that are associated with negative emotions and introject, Attacks ) are balancing out EE I was doing, I guess.

I have lot of bouts of intense negative emotions and EE doing good to wash out. I am not sure whether I have serious emotional release yet.

I was thinking of going to deep tissue massage therapy and see how it comes out.

It's a delicate balance, isn't it? Attentiveness vs. trying to direct things. Mme. de Salzmen talks a lot about this in her book, The Reality of Being.

I can't recommend this book enough. She takes you inside her own struggles to Work in such a warm human way. It's the distillation of her decades of Work. You want to underline everything she writes because each idea is expressed so clearly. I hope you will get a chance to read it.

thank you herondancer for suggesting this. I have lot of doubts about the process. particularly how to be attentive consistently with out getting identified.

seek10, are you still going to therapy?

yes, I had a session last week after a couple of months break. she asked me to do some reading "driven to distraction" on ADHD since she suspects I had ADHD. It's a possibility due to my sleep issues during last few years. Whenever I find it to be too much emotional thinking, I take appointment.

 

[Nienna]

quick update. I am doing EE pretty regularly, I got some break in doing POTS before sleep during this week.
there is lot of crying while doing pipe breathing/Ba ha particularly before the sleep. Still Mind wanders a lot. Though I have identified lot of traumatic stuff, I still failed to relate it and was impatient with the oncoming stress. Stress issues in life ( work stress, issues related to lying, feeding the predator, unidentified programs that are associated with negative emotions and introject, Attacks ) are balancing out EE I was doing, I guess.

I have lot of bouts of intense negative emotions and EE doing good to wash out. I am not sure whether I have serious emotional release yet.

I was thinking of going to deep tissue massage therapy and see how it comes out.

It's a delicate balance, isn't it? Attentiveness vs. trying to direct things. Mme. de Salzmen talks a lot about this in her book, The Reality of Being.

I can't recommend this book enough. She takes you inside her own struggles to Work in such a warm human way. It's the distillation of her decades of Work. You want to underline everything she writes because each idea is expressed so clearly. I hope you will get a chance to read it.

thank you herondancer for suggesting this. I have lot of doubts about the process. particularly how to be attentive consistently with out getting identified.

seek10, are you still going to therapy?

yes, I had a session last week after a couple of months break. she asked me to do some reading "driven to distraction" on ADHD since she suspects I had ADHD. It's a possibility due to my sleep issues during last few years. Whenever I find it to be too much emotional thinking, I take appointment.

Good, I'm glad you are continuing to go. Do you think that it would help you more to go more often?

 

[seek10]

seek10, are you still going to therapy?

yes, I had a session last week after a couple of months break. she asked me to do some reading "driven to distraction" on ADHD since she suspects I had ADHD. It's a possibility due to my sleep issues during last few years. Whenever I find it to be too much emotional thinking, I take appointment.

Good, I'm glad you are continuing to go. Do you think that it would help you more to go more often?

I am not sure of that. the imperssion she gave me is I need to read and accept the reality since I am not ready to take her medicines. so, I will go if I find it to be difficult to handle. I agree with her that I need to read lot of stuff and more watchful of my predator.

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[Nienna]

seek10, are you still going to therapy?

yes, I had a session last week after a couple of months break. she asked me to do some reading "driven to distraction" on ADHD since she suspects I had ADHD. It's a possibility due to my sleep issues during last few years. Whenever I find it to be too much emotional thinking, I take appointment.

Good, I'm glad you are continuing to go. Do you think that it would help you more to go more often?

I am not sure of that. the imperssion she gave me is I need to read and accept the reality since I am not ready to take her medicines. so, I will go if I find it to be difficult to handle. I agree with her that I need to read lot of stuff and more watchful of my predator.

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Maybe finding a different therapist would be better? Someone who is not into wanting you to take medicines but really wants to help you figure things out.

 

[seek10]

seek10, are you still going to therapy?

yes, I had a session last week after a couple of months break. she asked me to do some reading "driven to distraction" on ADHD since she suspects I had ADHD. It's a possibility due to my sleep issues during last few years. Whenever I find it to be too much emotional thinking, I take appointment.

Good, I'm glad you are continuing to go. Do you think that it would help you more to go more often?

I am not sure of that. the imperssion she gave me is I need to read and accept the reality since I am not ready to take her medicines. so, I will go if I find it to be difficult to handle. I agree with her that I need to read lot of stuff and more watchful of my predator.

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Maybe finding a different therapist would be better? Someone who is not into wanting you to take medicines but really wants to help you figure things out.

I thought about this previously, but hesitant to the change due to previous experiences. I changed already 2 and felt she is good in many respects. May be , I will try to change and see.

 

[Ollie]

It's a delicate balance, isn't it? Attentiveness vs. trying to direct things. Mme. de Salzmen talks a lot about this in her book, The Reality of Being.

I can't recommend this book enough. She takes you inside her own struggles to Work in such a warm human way. It's the distillation of her decades of Work. You want to underline everything she writes because each idea is expressed so clearly. I hope you will get a chance to read it.

I wanted to second that -- I'm in the middle of it right now, and reading it slowly on purpose because there's so much to absorb. I can't recommend it enough either.

I'm just starting to read this book too, taking it slowly too. :) In fact I used C S Nott's Teachings of Gurdjieff: A Pupil's Journal as a primer for this book. It is another book that gives a different perspective on ISOTM - much more readable and understandable. Another book where you want to underline everything. :)

 

[Ollie]

After over a year of omitting the round breathing (BaHa) I started doing it again this week - slowly. On Monday I did it at speed 1 for each of the 3 rounds whilst seated. It was a soporific experience. And, I experienced some dizziness on moving to lie down to do PotS. This may have been due to the effects of Day 7 of (restarting) Round 7 of the DMSA Mercury detox.

On Thursday I did speeds 1 and 2 of the first round only whilst seated. This time I was yawning, had wet eyes, and again, felt soporific.

Otherwise, everything was fine.

 

[Tigersoap]

I'll report on my EE practice as it has been a while.

I sometimes get clearer images that I remember in my head either during the Baha or at the beginning of the POTS.
Once I saw winged flying wooden ships in the skies near a lighthouse by the sea and recently I saw/was a little african girl crying under a tree because there was some unfair situation going on.

Overall I feel lighter than I have been in years and it seems I am more present, even if it's a tiny tiny amount at a time osit.

 

[Meager1]

I had a strange experience last night after doing the Baha breathing.

First, I should note here that after doing this particular exercise I always get an odd taste in my mouth.
I wonder if anyone else ever notices this?

It is as though I can actually "taste" toxins being released from my lungs!

Anyway, after doing the Baha breathing I decided to do Reiki on myself.

Hoo boy! I have never experienced anything quite like that before!

The intensity seemed to be 10 fold what it normal is and I could actually feel the "force" of the emanations pouring out in a way I never felt before.

I know it is recommended to not mix the two techniques, but I never thought that just the Baha breathing by itself, could have that much or that kind of an effect on Reiki!

The last thing I want to mention is that I have not been able to "visualize" anything in my head for the past 20 years or so, yet after the Reiki session I had "two" very brief but clear pictures flash in my mind for first time in ages!
It felt like the tiniest little crack in some major, major block going on there.

It really made me think that I need some serious "hypnosis" to get to the bottom of this block..or maybe I could continue with the Baha breathing and then the Reiki and see if I can "break through" it on my own?

 

[Juba]

I'm having craving like I have craving for chocolate (yes, I'm still eating dark chocolate, can't say good buy to this delicious thing), and the only thing I could do than is to do EE and feel content and energized.

Also be aware that magnesium deficiency can often manifest as chocolate or coffee cravings.

Hi dugdeep,

I'm taking Magnesium on regular basis together with other supplements with Laura's power shake, but thanks :)

 

[Gawan]

First, I should note here that after doing this particular exercise I always get an odd taste in my mouth.
I wonder if anyone else ever notices this?

Not myself. But it could be a side-effect of beatha and one "job" of this breathing technique is to detoxify and to balance the energies of your body, to be specific emotions. Have you done the full program, or just the beatha part at this evening?

It really made me think that I need some serious "hypnosis" to get to the bottom of this block..or maybe I could continue with the Baha breathing and then the Reiki and see if I can "break through" it on my own?

How often do you intend to do the beatha-portion?
IMO sticking to the full EE program would be a good idea, because emotional releases may take some time.