I'm not sure where they are getting that elderberry increases cytokines, but if you read my previous post HERE you'll see that elderberry in any case has other important inhibitory effects on SARS and Corona-viruses. There's also this:
Elderberries Block Flu Virus From Attaching To and Entering Human Cells
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I'm not sure where they are getting that elderberry increases cytokines, but if you read my previous post HERE you'll see that elderberry in any case has other important inhibitory effects on SARS and Corona-viruses. There's also this:
Agron
Jedi Council Member
Thanks.
Im no expert or a doctor but I saw that info so I thought it would be good to post it so it can be confirmed or debunked.
And Im not using elderberry since it is a syrup that was pushed on me since I was a kid and I started to dislike it at one point. Here it is done with lots of refined sugar and I almost died from my sugar-addiction so no wonder. To clean my digestive system and for iron I use blackberry wine (5% alc).
It´s elderberry flower time! 
My partner went out to the woods and brought us first round.
In my country, "the rule" for picking flowers is that you pick them after 2-3 sunny days in the afternoon when they are in full flower and dry.
For making syrup/juice (as I posted here), the size of the flower should be as big as an opened palm (or a couple of smaller ones that count as one palm-size flower).
For tea, one dries the flowers on a covered sheet in the shade.....
In any case, cut off the dick flower stalks first.
Happy hunting!
My partner went out to the woods and brought us first round.
In my country, "the rule" for picking flowers is that you pick them after 2-3 sunny days in the afternoon when they are in full flower and dry.
For making syrup/juice (as I posted here), the size of the flower should be as big as an opened palm (or a couple of smaller ones that count as one palm-size flower).
For tea, one dries the flowers on a covered sheet in the shade.....
In any case, cut off the dick flower stalks first.
Happy hunting!
I found this detailed explanation about Elderberry and the concept of a cytokine storm
Does Elderberry Cause Cytokine Storms If You Have Coronavirus?
There's a lot going around about Elderberries and Cytokine Storms. How can you know what is safe? Get practical and evidence-based advice right here.
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I´ve upgraded my syrup a bit....
My kids started to cough a little and I´ve remembered granny´s bay leaf (laurel) cough syrup that would really help, so I´ve added bay leaves to the mix.
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So, what I did was:
As I´ve got a thick paste and not a syrup
I added a bit of water and put the whole thing trough colander.
I could skip the blending part and squeeze the berries, but now I have higher berries concentration in the syrup.
I also added home made honey to sweet it.
Overall I´ve got round 3,5dl of really rich syrup.
I will start with one small spoon in the morning for kids and test it further on myself - if I take more will there be some aftereffects (since elderberries have laxative effect).
My kids started to cough a little and I´ve remembered granny´s bay leaf (laurel) cough syrup that would really help, so I´ve added bay leaves to the mix.
Bay leaf for cough
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That´s pretty much how grandma did the syrup; she cooked several bay leaves in a 1/5l or less water, after it cool down a bit, she added honey and she put in a juice of 1-2 whole lemons. Store it in the fridge and take one spoon of the syrup couple of times during the day (3-4).
So, what I did was:
- boil 1/5 l water
- added 4 bay leaves
- added 6 spoons of elderberries
- one cinnamon stick
As I´ve got a thick paste and not a syrup
I added a bit of water and put the whole thing trough colander.I could skip the blending part and squeeze the berries, but now I have higher berries concentration in the syrup.
I also added home made honey to sweet it.
Overall I´ve got round 3,5dl of really rich syrup.
I will start with one small spoon in the morning for kids and test it further on myself - if I take more will there be some aftereffects (since elderberries have laxative effect).
SovereignDove
Jedi
I thought I would share my experience with taking elderberry since March or so of last year. Originally I was taking it as a precaution against Covid when that all started, from reading about it here. I have been taking an extract made from the fruit that is in capsule form instead of a tea or syrup (it was easier to obtain and more convenient to take, and seems to be as effective as far as I can tell).
Unexpectedly, the elderberry made a huge difference in seasonal allergies. I didn't have them at all while taking elderberry, so I continued to take it. I have not any allergies this year either.
I don't want to take pharmaceuticals (preferring to treat any symptoms or issues with natural substances), but do enjoy not having a runny nose and sneezing from May to October. I was surprised it worked this well for me, especially because that wasn't the reason I was taking it. No noticeable side effects either.
I did a bit of research as to why this may help with allergies, and found elderberry can calm inflammation and that can alleviate hay fever/allergies (didn't find any lengthy reliable sources to quote though). FWIW, it may help someone else who may experience allergies.
Unexpectedly, the elderberry made a huge difference in seasonal allergies. I didn't have them at all while taking elderberry, so I continued to take it. I have not any allergies this year either.
I don't want to take pharmaceuticals (preferring to treat any symptoms or issues with natural substances), but do enjoy not having a runny nose and sneezing from May to October. I was surprised it worked this well for me, especially because that wasn't the reason I was taking it. No noticeable side effects either.
I did a bit of research as to why this may help with allergies, and found elderberry can calm inflammation and that can alleviate hay fever/allergies (didn't find any lengthy reliable sources to quote though). FWIW, it may help someone else who may experience allergies.
Debra Lynn
Jedi
I started taking the Black Elderberry capsules when all this started up and I've also noticed a drop off of my seasonal allergies which are usually a lot worse this time of year.
Interesting. Do you mind sharing which brand of capsules you've been taking?
Sheesh, I wish I had the opportunity to read this post before I got so ill last couple of weeks... I felt like I was drowning in my lungs and have a fractured rib from coughing non stop day/night for 5-6 days, am incredibly weak and drained. Improving now thankfully. So wonderful to be able to breathe and walk! 
will be buying that this week. 
will be buying that this week. on_strike_usaexpat
Jedi Master
Question: why has elderberries been dropped from all current recos regarding COVID prevention, treatment
or
not mentioned in protection of the unvaxxed from the vaxxed??
Is there something I am missing here? Cytokine storm potentials?
or
not mentioned in protection of the unvaxxed from the vaxxed??
Is there something I am missing here? Cytokine storm potentials?
SovereignDove
Jedi
The brand name is Nature's Truth, and each capsule is 1000mg. I take 2 in the morning and 2 at night (sometimes I forget to take it at night).
This is it on Amazon:
_Amazon.com: Black Elderberry Capsules 2000mg | 100 Count | Super Concentrated Sambucus Extract | Non-GMO, Gluten Free | by Nature's Truth: Health & Personal Care
Tuulikki
Dagobah Resident
So sorry to hear that forest_light. I hope you will continue to improve and get your health back to normal. What was wrong with you? Drowning in the lungs sounds like the worst of covid symptoms.Sheesh, I wish I had the opportunity to read this post before I got so ill last couple of weeks... I felt like I was drowning in my lungs and have a fractured rib from coughing non stop day/night for 5-6 days, am incredibly weak and drained. Improving now thankfully. So wonderful to be able to breathe and walk!
Thank you for sharing your experience with it. I have a lot of this at home and I will take it again.
Thank you for you kind, sweet words @Tuulikki... sending a non infectious hug back to you!So sorry to hear that forest_light. I hope you will continue to improve and get your health back to normal. What was wrong with you? Drowning in the lungs sounds like the worst of covid symptoms.
It seems I have had ‘the flu’... the whole town where I live seems to have it (with lots of people covertly snuffling into tissues or coughing their lungs out when they get outside a building or into their car) but my goodness I haven’t had a flu like this in years. It’s definitely not Covid as far as I know... thousands of people are getting tested and there is no Covid in the area (if the tests have any accuracy!) and the sewerage is tested daily... I also live remotely in the bush and have little contact with anyone so my doctor agreed it is highly unlikely. She is aware everyone has a seasonal flu at the moment.
I was super sick in Nov 2019 and thought then I might have had Covid as I had never had a flu so vicious (except when I had pneumonia years ago), but this 2021 flu has been much worse for me personally. It may be because I have been diagnosed with multiple chronic conditions (immune) and have been struggling with my health for a long time. I’ve never been sick like this for so long and have found it incredibly debilitating. Today I am so grateful to find that I seem to be improving (thought I was last week but got worse again) so have come into town for supplies. I wonder if I had pneumonia... I was concerned it would develop into pleurisy, so was diligent in taking all the nutritional support I could and resting. This is my third week of recovery.
I am taking a huge number of supplements, Chinese medicine (utterly revolting tasting but very effective) pain relief (which I never take) and have been doing the keto diet for 6 months so I hoped this would ensure a more graceful ‘flu’ experience. Sadly it was not so.
I wonder if there are some new flu strains around...?
Prayers of sparkling health for you all
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