Emetophobia

[truth seeker]

And what do you imply by saying this ? shouldn't i post here anymore or stop reading anything what's in here? I read what i can understand and eventually i have to be well informed in order to express my views i agree. But it seems i'll never be informed enough to be given credit for.

While it's important to be well informed, it's also important to be open to questioning your own thoughts. That's what's being asked of you. If you can't be open to that, a real conversation - exchange of ideas - can't take place.

Many people here have benefited from this diet, myself included and this is why it is being suggested - in order to help you. Unfortunately it seems that you prefer to trust your own thinking and there will never be enough proof to change that. Based on what you've written about your health, that doesn't seem to have served you very well so far. So perhaps you can consider trying something different in order to get a different result?

Part of the Work we do here entails giving up what it is that makes us comfortable. This is not an easy path to take and not for the faint of heart. It takes quite a bit of courage and yes, a leap of faith. What do you have to lose by trying and is that more important than possibly finding out that there may be improvements that may occur that you are unable to see at this point?

 

[psychic_spy]

The only reason you perceive the advice given as negativity, is because it was not what you wanted to hear.
You wanted to hear - "there is this pill or herb, take it X times and you will be better."
We gave you an alternative to your problems, problems that you even do not suspect you have.
Yet your addiction to your status quo came kicking and screaming.
You want to remain the same, and change. That cannot happen.
But make no mistake, no one here is sad, or mad, or trying to bash you. This sort of thing happens all the time. You are free to do what you see fit. People will not abstain from giving you advice on other threads based on what transpired on this thread, unless that pattern of behaviour proves consistent, and you show that your knowledge cup is full.
Goodspeed.

I didn't expected to be told about a magic cure but i was looking for a new insight since i knew this place is different. when i posted here i thought whether i could find other persons having this phobia or people familiarized with it. I also have an account on a forum only about emetophobes but many of them maintain their status quo and not changing their lifestyles to go out and behave like non-emetophobics like i struggle to do. On many accounts i could not relate to them since i don't have a protected lifestyle where i use strategy( drugs and excuses) to maintain my fear. No, it's exactly the opposite, i live like a normal person but i still have some problems with it when i travel. The IBS issue was an addition but i'm not 100% i have it since i didn't make all the investigations to prove i have it. It was only a doctor a few years ago who told me i have IBS symtomps when i'm stressed. IBS at that time didn't seem to me like a disease that will finish by killing me, making my intestines desintegrate ( as someone said here). So yeah, i freaked given the proportions of it. Everytime i post i'm asked about diet and doing EE. 2 years ago i said the same about my eating habits and no one bashed me the way they did on this account.

 

[shellycheval]

psychic_spy

I didn't expected to be told about a magic cure but i was looking for a new insight since i knew this place is different. when i posted here i thought whether i could find other persons having this phobia or people familiarized with it. I also have an account on a forum only about emetophobes but many of them maintain their status quo and not changing their lifestyles to go out and behave like non-emetophobics like i struggle to do. On many accounts i could not relate to them since i don't have a protected lifestyle where i use strategy( drugs and excuses) to maintain my fear. No, it's exactly the opposite, i live like a normal person but i still have some problems with it when i travel. The IBS issue was an addition but i'm not 100% i have it since i didn't make all the investigations to prove i have it. It was only a doctor a few years ago who told me i have IBS symtomps when i'm stressed. IBS at that time didn't seem to me like a disease that will finish by killing me, making my intestines desintegrate ( as someone said here). So yeah, i freaked given the proportions of it. Everytime i post i'm asked about diet and doing EE. 2 years ago i said the same about my eating habits and no one bashed me the way they did on this account.

So exactly what do you want?

You have asked questions--we have given you our "new insight," which is some of the most current and correct health information you will find anywhere on the planet.

We have given you our best answers, time, and energy, to help you.

You continue to reject our help.

So--what is your purpose in repeatedly asking the same questions and ignoring the answers you get?

Please answer this last question with a short, simple, direct, and clear reply.

shellycheval

 

[psychic_spy]

Many people here have benefited from this diet, myself included and this is why it is being suggested - in order to help you. Unfortunately it seems that you prefer to trust your own thinking and there will never be enough proof to change that. Based on what you've written about your health, that doesn't seem to have served you very well so far. So perhaps you can consider trying something different in order to get a different result?

Part of the Work we do here entails giving up what it is that makes us comfortable. This is not an easy path to take and not for the faint of heart. It takes quite a bit of courage and yes, a leap of faith. What do you have to lose by trying and is that more important than possibly finding out that there may be improvements that may occur that you are unable to see at this point?

YEs, i know that renouncing what gives us comfort it's good for creating struggle and helping on the path of the 4th way. But i thought it had to be a conscious decision such as '' i give up eating this and that and i'm conscious about why i do it''

I'm simply afraid i will get unexpected bad results both concering health and my mental and emotional states. This is the main reason i'm being suspicious and critical about it. Because i know implicitly that we all have different types of blood and metabolism, etc and for some this can have excellent results , for others not a great deal. As far as improvements are concerned i really can't envisage them for the time being. What improvements have you experienced keeping the diet?
As far as self observation i can say i obtained some results, since now everytime i do or say something and mostly when i do something bad or experience rage it observes , it sees that not I do but a foreign I acts as Me.
This is what i call a result. It was not forced , either unreasonable.
Imposing myself a diet because i'm being told to, without not even adopting a critical eye on it it's not something that i may do for the time being. I didin't say i'll never do it or that i'll expect to be sick as hell to proceed on following one. No, i'll just asc, document, see what are the advantajes and the disadvantages of it before anything.

 

[psychic_spy]

psychic_spy

So exactly what do you want?

You have asked questions--we have given you our "new insight," which is some of the most current and correct health information you will find anywhere on the planet.

We have given you our best answers, time, and energy, to help you.

You continue to reject our help.

So--what is your purpose in repeatedly asking the same questions and ignoring the answers you get?

Please answer this last question with a short, simple, direct, and clear reply.

shellycheval

You said it yourself. Is some of the most current and correct information you find anywhere on the planet..

It's the way you say it ( i read the answears many times and i appreciate the effort put on your behalf to change my ways)..... i'll no longer ask anything on this)

 

[truth seeker]

YEs, i know that renouncing what gives us comfort it's good for creating struggle and helping on the path of the 4th way. But i thought it had to be a conscious decision such as '' i give up eating this and that and i'm conscious about why i do it''

Absolutely, you should be well informed.

I'm simply afraid i will get unexpected bad results both concering health and my mental and emotional states. This is the main reason i'm being suspicious and critical about it. Because i know implicitly that we all have different types of blood and metabolism, etc and for some this can have excellent results , for others not a great deal. As far as improvements are concerned i really can't envisage them for the time being. What improvements have you experienced keeping the diet?

Definitely improved thinking. This has helped a lot with my ability to post here and help others. So by helping myself, I am better able to Do for other people. My emotional state is way calmer - less fears and anger. Issues I've had with fibroids have almost completely been resolved. There may be more but those come to mind off the top of my head.

As far as self observation i can say i obtained some results, since now everytime i do or say something and mostly when i do something bad or experience rage it observes , it sees that not I do but a foreign I acts as Me.
This is what i call a result. It was not forced , either unreasonable.

Yep, and diet helps to support that as it directly affects how we think as well as our physical well being.

Imposing myself a diet because i'm being told to, without not even adopting a critical eye on it it's not something that i may do for the time being. I didin't say i'll never do it or that i'll expect to be sick as hell to proceed on following one. No, i'll just asc, document, see what are the advantajes and the disadvantages of it before anything.

The fact that you use the word 'imposing' and the phrase 'I'm being told to' speaks directly to your thoughts which, to me, is an illusion based on programming. If you can view it with curiosity instead of fear, you may find that helps you to see it differently. An example might be: "It's interesting that I may be afraid of trying something new, maybe I can get to the bottom of that?" or "I wonder what improvements I can make that may benefit me so that I can be of service to others?" or something like that. View it as your own personal experiment.

With that said, according to your last sentence, it sounds as if you've made your decision and that's perfectly fine. As was said, there's no convincing here, just people trying to provide objective information because you asked.

added: just saw your last post, p_s. No need to reply to this one, just food for thought.

 

[psychic_spy]

If i'm going to keep this diet i'll lose a lot of pounds and i sincerely don't want to get slim or lose weight so that people think i'm having a disease or something. I'm already 54 kg to 1'70 cm. I'm sure i'll be 50 after 2-3 monts of dieting and that's worse then having extreme emetophobia , trust me. When i was 16 years and i had this weight there was not a day going by without someone asking me the lame question: ''are you girl eating something?'' Go get a snack or something'' ''you're anorexic'' ..It's horrible really. if you're fater no asks why.. and doesn't even dare to recommend you to lose weight unless you ask for it.

 

[shellycheval]

psychic_spy

i read the answears many times and i appreciate the effort put on your behalf to change my ways)..... i'll no longer ask anything on this

OK--good. :) I wish you the best of luck using the information you been given to change your health for the better.


anart

psychic spy, it's very simple. Changing your diet will improve your physical and mental health enormously - that is a fact. Period.

It's your life and it's up to you.

 

[truth seeker]

If i'm going to keep this diet i'll lose a lot of pounds and i sincerely don't want to get slim or lose weight so that people think i'm having a disease or something. I'm already 54 kg to 1'70 cm. I'm sure i'll be 50 after 2-3 monts of dieting and that's worse then having extreme emetophobia , trust me. When i was 16 years and i had this weight there was not a day going by without someone asking me the lame question: ''are you girl eating something?'' Go get a snack or something'' ''you're anorexic'' ..It's horrible really. if you're fater no asks why.. and doesn't even dare to recommend you to lose weight unless you ask for it.

I'm extremely skinny myself and have heard it all. I'm also a person of color in the US and yes, people can be quite nasty. Guess what? I no longer care what those people think because they don't know me or what's best for me.

People love to project their own issues onto others and make the target feel as if it's their problem. That's a lie, it's the one doing the victimizing who's at fault. Once I really began to understand that, I stopped being upset and angry with myself and actually began to pity those people. Coming to that realization can take some time however and as with everything, is a choice one makes or not.

 

[psychic_spy]

To Truth Seeker

I'm sorry to hear that too. I hoped that in U.S people are more open minded now and refrain from making racist comments on those of color. I'll really be ashamed if i was in their shoes since many Americans project , mostly in what i see on television a image of tolerance and acceptance towards Afro Americans and gays. It seems reality is still bleaker then waht's in the media.
Now i deal better with those kind of people, i try to ignore them but they still piss me off.

 

[Deleted member 8431]

If i'm going to keep this diet i'll lose a lot of pounds and i sincerely don't want to get slim or lose weight so that people think i'm having a disease or something. I'm already 54 kg to 1'70 cm. I'm sure i'll be 50 after 2-3 monts of dieting and that's worse then having extreme emetophobia , trust me. When i was 16 years and i had this weight there was not a day going by without someone asking me the lame question: ''are you girl eating something?'' Go get a snack or something'' ''you're anorexic'' ..It's horrible really. if you're fater no asks why.. and doesn't even dare to recommend you to lose weight unless you ask for it.

Who said you'll necessarily end up skinnier if you follow a diet? We're not talking about weight loss. We are talking about restoring body chemistry. Whether or not you'll get fattier or skinnier depends on your genetic profile, osit.

And as far as body chemistry is concerned, it's kind of a two-way reciprocal system. There is diet and there is emotional balance. Both have an effects of body chemistry and on eachother.

You cannot ignore those facts. They are already widely accepted. And it's just plain common sens if you ask me.

There are always those who judge. You can't change that and never will be able to, neither is anybody else here as a matter of fact. You can't change others. You can only change the way you deal with them and the way you deal with your own emotions.

When you start to get Knowledge and start to become really objective, both at how you see yourself and see the world around you, many of these issues will resolve. You'll be able to make better choises and able to better avoid situations that could be dangerous/negative. Knowledge protects, ignorance endangers. Lies can be far more dangerous than plain ignorance as well, don't forget it. Not only the lies told by others but those you tell yourself as well.

Peace.