Facebook Demands Identification

anka said:
Laura said:
Yup. Looks like efforts had an effect. Yes, I sent an ID, but I do think that them getting lots of messages jacked up the restoration.

Interesting insight into what is going on here on the BBM.

Great!

Though I thought we could make it happen without you sending your ID, simply because of people power, but at least you are back.

Well, they didn't get much in the way of ID since I blocked out most of it with paintshop.
 
Laura said:
anka said:
Laura said:
Yup. Looks like efforts had an effect. Yes, I sent an ID, but I do think that them getting lots of messages jacked up the restoration.

Interesting insight into what is going on here on the BBM.

Great!

Though I thought we could make it happen without you sending your ID, simply because of people power, but at least you are back.

Well, they didn't get much in the way of ID since I blocked out most of it with paintshop.

:D good idea
 
Chu said:
‘Absurd’: Facebook Requesting Government ID to Unlock Accounts…Again

Whether Laura was targeted or not (and it certainly DOES seem fishy), I think this is a good opportunity to make a stink, and "expand", i.e. post a lot of articles and videos from her on FB, Twitter, etc. The more "something/someone" tries to shut her down, the more we should spread the word. You know, like trying to have a non-linear "battle". :ninja: :v:

Allow me to respectfully add my 2 cents.
Since its beginnings I've always been suspicious of FB (and the likes of it), considering it an exploitative, predatory and indeed parasitic enterprise, where we willingly play the host part. It's also addictive.
Out of a concern of internal coherence, I never read let alone signed up.
Now, battling and "nuking" it would only reinforce a parasitic relationship, just like what happens when you feed the trolls.
IMO I would just let go of it. Under its sheep clothing, it's evil and does not merit attention anyway.
.A
 
asino said:
Chu said:
‘Absurd’: Facebook Requesting Government ID to Unlock Accounts…Again

Whether Laura was targeted or not (and it certainly DOES seem fishy), I think this is a good opportunity to make a stink, and "expand", i.e. post a lot of articles and videos from her on FB, Twitter, etc. The more "something/someone" tries to shut her down, the more we should spread the word. You know, like trying to have a non-linear "battle". :ninja: :v:

Allow me to respectfully add my 2 cents.
Since its beginnings I've always been suspicious of FB (and the likes of it), considering it an exploitative, predatory and indeed parasitic enterprise, where we willingly play the host part. It's also addictive.
Out of a concern of internal coherence, I never read let alone signed up.
Now, battling and "nuking" it would only reinforce a parasitic relationship, just like what happens when you feed the trolls.
IMO I would just let go of it. Under its sheep clothing, it's evil and does not merit attention anyway.
.A

Except for the fact that we have made a LOT of connections via FB and a LOT of traffic to SOTT comes from FB posts. It's a lighthouse adjunct.

Since you never read it or signed up, you really don't know the positive aspects.
 
asino said:
Allow me to respectfully add my 2 cents.
Since its beginnings I've always been suspicious of FB (and the likes of it), considering it an exploitative, predatory and indeed parasitic enterprise, where we willingly play the host part. It's also addictive.
Out of a concern of internal coherence, I never read let alone signed up.
Now, battling and "nuking" it would only reinforce a parasitic relationship, just like what happens when you feed the trolls.
IMO I would just let go of it. Under its sheep clothing, it's evil and does not merit attention anyway.
.A

Basically, I agree with you except one important thing which comes to play that I only realized yesterday. Despite all the limitations of the FB platform, it has accumulated a huge base of users and therefore as long as there is somewhat acceptable way of dealing with the system provided by FB, it is worth promoting the Truth and the work of the QFG there. It reaches so many people and some of them might wake up to the reality earlier which is beneficial for all of humanity. As Scottie pointed out in Chu's FB post, last month around 40% (?) of traffic to the SOTT.net site came from FB. Should we ignore it?

I think it is worth to prepare for moving on to a different platform, discuss options but at the same time fight on this one as long as it is 'fightable' (define for yourself). We could have our own network with perfect rules and no one would know about it. The point of spreading the Truth would thus be cancelled out. We need to be speaking at places where people go to. The signs of the times will show when it is the right time to give up on Facebook.

Edit: Laura's post just came up, I post this one anyway :)
 
asino said:
Allow me to respectfully add my 2 cents.
Since its beginnings I've always been suspicious of FB (and the likes of it), considering it an exploitative, predatory and indeed parasitic enterprise, where we willingly play the host part. It's also addictive.
Out of a concern of internal coherence, I never read let alone signed up.
Now, battling and "nuking" it would only reinforce a parasitic relationship, just like what happens when you feed the trolls.
IMO I would just let go of it. Under its sheep clothing, it's evil and does not merit attention anyway.
.A

Also: "When in Rome, do as the Romans do."
 
Data said:
asino said:
Allow me to respectfully add my 2 cents.
Since its beginnings I've always been suspicious of FB (and the likes of it), considering it an exploitative, predatory and indeed parasitic enterprise, where we willingly play the host part. It's also addictive.
Out of a concern of internal coherence, I never read let alone signed up.
Now, battling and "nuking" it would only reinforce a parasitic relationship, just like what happens when you feed the trolls.
IMO I would just let go of it. Under its sheep clothing, it's evil and does not merit attention anyway.
.A

Also: "When in Rome, do as the Romans do."

To add - after a few years of absolutely no interactions, once we all began working together, my activity really picked up. It helps if you don't have time, other members will have already selected the days most important articles. And has elicited engagement from people i haven't spoken to for years.

The winning aspect, as has been mentioned, is that it's the one place where our two worlds meet - and this enables us to mix the two, almost effortlessly!
 
You can always use FB at your advantage. Give information and also receive it. Contact with friends, with people, exchange ideas, see how people think, give your point of vue, be a little assertive and fight fears, the fear to speak aloud, for example, the fear to participate in some actions that thanks to FB can be seen. We live in a system that FB is anywhere, so when you have a message or information to give FB is ideal. It can be also a space where you see propaganda, and it is an exercise to see the propaganda. Is it a dangerous place? It can be. All virtual places can be dangerous as non virtual. But FB is here, so we can use it as a tool.
 
Nicolas said:
Could this be it happyliza1?

Thanks, Nicolas you're a star! I found it thanks to your prompt. For some reason my Google+ posts have been going via another email address I have. No harm done as no circles on that one but the info is in the ether! So people must have seen them. :)

I am still concerned that at the drop of a hat, a flick of the switch, that FB can disconnect you from all your contacts forever should they wish, and there is no guarantee that they would reconnect you, especially if people are out to sabotage what we are doing.
As they say, we should think twice abou thaving all our eggs in one basket.

Glad you are reconnected Laura. I had posted a complaint yesterday using the copy Renaissance gave. Plus I posted the complaint on my own timeline - with additional comments, together with posting loadsa u-tube and other items. Glad you are a REAL person! :rockon: :rotfl:
 
FB is baaaad...you can start migrating to:

https://www.minds.com/

Opensource project, designed and created as an eventual replacement for FB/Twitter/Google+...and all other parasitic, greed/control driven "Social Media" environs.

There are existing apps that web-marketers use to capture "friends/followers" on all existing social media..some as cheap as $20..can't list as these names are monitored by data harvesting apps run by three letter agencies .Do some re-searching...this all done under active JH onefive.in US....palinterre is just one gubment uses in monitoring 4Jh....one...five...sorry is cryptic but confuses the datanet..don't wanna b scooped up in that, myself.

Also, start thinking about locating servers in Iceland, for example; look for sovereign states that endorse human rights, freedoms, and promote unencumbered internet access.

Start to move away ( silently back away, as in grey-rock-style) from "Rome"...it's going to burn shortly..lol.

B :cool2:
 
Laura said:
asino said:
Chu said:
‘Absurd’: Facebook Requesting Government ID to Unlock Accounts…Again

Whether Laura was targeted or not (and it certainly DOES seem fishy), I think this is a good opportunity to make a stink, and "expand", i.e. post a lot of articles and videos from her on FB, Twitter, etc. The more "something/someone" tries to shut her down, the more we should spread the word. You know, like trying to have a non-linear "battle". :ninja: :v:

Allow me to respectfully add my 2 cents.
Since its beginnings I've always been suspicious of FB (and the likes of it), considering it an exploitative, predatory and indeed parasitic enterprise, where we willingly play the host part. It's also addictive.
Out of a concern of internal coherence, I never read let alone signed up.
Now, battling and "nuking" it would only reinforce a parasitic relationship, just like what happens when you feed the trolls.
IMO I would just let go of it. Under its sheep clothing, it's evil and does not merit attention anyway.
.A

Except for the fact that we have made a LOT of connections via FB and a LOT of traffic to SOTT comes from FB posts. It's a lighthouse adjunct.
In any self-respecting faustian bargain there is always the glitzy and shiny part.

Since you never read it or signed up, you really don't know the positive aspects.
You presume I don't know the numbers. Besides, my point isn't about numbers, it's about principles.

Data said:
Also: "When in Rome, do as the Romans do."

I rest my case, and put away my harp.
.A
 
asino said:
Laura said:
asino said:
Chu said:
‘Absurd’: Facebook Requesting Government ID to Unlock Accounts…Again

Whether Laura was targeted or not (and it certainly DOES seem fishy), I think this is a good opportunity to make a stink, and "expand", i.e. post a lot of articles and videos from her on FB, Twitter, etc. The more "something/someone" tries to shut her down, the more we should spread the word. You know, like trying to have a non-linear "battle". :ninja: :v:

Allow me to respectfully add my 2 cents.
Since its beginnings I've always been suspicious of FB (and the likes of it), considering it an exploitative, predatory and indeed parasitic enterprise, where we willingly play the host part. It's also addictive.
Out of a concern of internal coherence, I never read let alone signed up.
Now, battling and "nuking" it would only reinforce a parasitic relationship, just like what happens when you feed the trolls.
IMO I would just let go of it. Under its sheep clothing, it's evil and does not merit attention anyway.
.A

Except for the fact that we have made a LOT of connections via FB and a LOT of traffic to SOTT comes from FB posts. It's a lighthouse adjunct.
In any self-respecting faustian bargain there is always the glitzy and shiny part.

Since you never read it or signed up, you really don't know the positive aspects.
You presume I don't know the numbers. Besides, my point isn't about numbers, it's about principles.

Data said:
Also: "When in Rome, do as the Romans do."

I rest my case, and put away my harp.
.A
I guess it really depends on what you are using it for. If you spend your days playing Farmville and posting selfies to attract "likes" then yes I agree it is a waste of time and totally self indulgent. However if you use it for sharing information for people who might not normally have access to the kinds of subjects that SOTT reports on then I find it a worthwhile endeavour. I believe it is the intent behind what you are using it for that matters.
I realize there are privacy issues and complete violations thereof but I think we are sacrificing that in order to be able to reach out to those who may be ready for some seed planting.
If I was only concerned about myself and my personal privacy I would delete Facebook and be done with it but there are bigger issues at stake here.
 
asino said:
Besides, my point isn't about numbers, it's about principles.

There is good and there is evil and there is the specific situation that determines which is which.

Have you ever read "In Search of the Miraculous"?
 
Facebook is good for quickly sharing to the wide audience. But it demand a steady flow of new friends.

Sometimes if someone sends me a message, because have some business, I give up. Send me e-mail, even if. Call to me. Meet me. Not send me a massage on the F.

Laura, Facebook can block account, it's known. But also, people can submit the page as false. Facebook receiving many notifications, probably, automatically block account. It's possible that an army of trolls get together to mess your account. Maybe some black magician take revenge from beyond the grave.
 
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