In the RSBN video you can see him standing during the first 3 shots, then one of the next 5 shots hits him, and as he's going down, it looks like he pushes another person, probably his wife.
Failed Trump Assassination Attempt
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Good versus evil and the balance
And for the reference that Trump's near-death experience has changed his persona and made him a humble man again.
For reference, here's what the shot would look like. From this it looks like the engineer's recreation is slightly off. The stage was several feet farther back from the walkway in front of it (at least in the image here).
Since the first shot hit the corner of the railing (end of white line, roughly), could a second shooter from the window have fired a subsonic round that wasn't picked up on any of the audio? Either that, or the railing shot was a ricochet. Also, the red shot would have ended up somewhere in the crowd in the stands.
As it happens, I was chatting with a co-worker a couple of days ago when he mentioned that a terrible Eurovision contest song later went on to become the theme or rallying song for a military group that went on to stage a successful political coup somewhere in Europe several decades ago. I responded by mentioning that Nessun Dorma became the rallying song for Brazil's soccer team several years ago (though it was actually made famous by Pavarotti's performance of it for the FIFA world championship in 1990).
When I mentioned the use of Nessun Dorma to my co-worker (who happens to be a dogmatic lefty), I thought that it was too bad such a beautiful piece was made famous again for being used to sell soccer. Imagine my utter delight then to hear it being performed live (only several hours after mentioning it), right after the closing speeches of the RNC convention two nights ago. Right after arguably one of the most important political (and effectively spiritual) rallies the US has ever had. "I was just mentioning this song to someone at work!" I said at the time.
Funny coincidence, interesting synchronicty, or unwittingly tapping into the information field, I don't know. What is interesting to me is that Trump seems to be sending the message: 'none shall sleep' - until the job is done - since he'll work tirelessly to correct things. This could surely be said to resonate with many of us here, and whatever work we were meant to do perhaps knowing full well that the next few years aren't going to be pretty. And then of course the double meaning of nessun dorma: 'none shall sleep' - the be awake and aware message that we have been strongly encouraged to follow in the Gurdjieffien sense of fighting sleep and gaining wakefullness.
Incidentally, Trump played a recording of Nessun Dorma at a 2016 rally of his. And had it performed live at the RNC convention of 2020 as well. So this is not a one-off. Maybe a part of him knew he was in for a long and arduous haul. But whatever the case is, maybe the piece holds some meaning for us too.
Wasn't one of the guys from the stand killed like this? Like the one coming from the red angle? I think one of the bullets supposed to go to Trump hit the guy's head because he stood for a moment!
Not sure I understand your question correctly, but one cartridge (the brass shell filled with powder and holding the bullet in place in the neck) is either subsonic or supersonic, but not both.
The magazine (which holds the cartridges and feeds them into the receiver ready to be shot next) can hold both supersonic and subsonic munition, as the dimensions of both of the ammunition types are much the same.
However, mixing up subsonic and supersonic ammunition in the same magazine vastly complicates matters, as the bullet trajectory is different, affecting elevation and windage (the compensation of the aiming point to take into consideration wind and distance) of each shot to a great degree. A pro could compensate for that, I guess, but you would need a graduated reticle to do that (which is standard in any telescopic sight) - but allegedly Crooks’ rifle didn’t have a scope.
So, unlikely.
No, the man who was killed was in the stands to Trump's right, not his left. This was one of the shots from the second volley of 5 shots. (He's the stick figure at the top of the image in this post.)
I think that the song was used in the movie 'Sum of all Fears' is meaningful too. I mean, Trump would have to have known that his position would attract the attention of those that would have no qualms about trying to remove him by what ever means and perhaps his earlier resistance to getting involved with politics was based in his fear about what that might mean for him personally and his family. Attracting that kind of attention could be the sum of all his fears.
A few odds and ends. First, this is your brain on pareidolia:
Here's the video in hi-def:
In other words, it's not a woman's purse getting shot - it's her moving her arm back. But in this video you can see Dutch get shot. The first shot hits the railing, and the next shot hits Dutch. (Presumably so does the third shot, but it's not obvious in this video.) These two or three shots don't work well with the window sniper theory. A window shooter would have to be shooting in two directions at once, or using subsonic bullets at the same time as Crooks.
Also this guy reportedly did an analysis of the audio forensics and concluded same gun for first 8 shots (published the day of the shooting, but didn't get as much coverage as the CNN report):
www.nytimes.com
Here's the video in hi-def:
In other words, it's not a woman's purse getting shot - it's her moving her arm back. But in this video you can see Dutch get shot. The first shot hits the railing, and the next shot hits Dutch. (Presumably so does the third shot, but it's not obvious in this video.) These two or three shots don't work well with the window sniper theory. A window shooter would have to be shooting in two directions at once, or using subsonic bullets at the same time as Crooks.
Also this guy reportedly did an analysis of the audio forensics and concluded same gun for first 8 shots (published the day of the shooting, but didn't get as much coverage as the CNN report):
Videos Show Suspect Lying Motionless on Nearby Rooftop After Shooting
An audio analysis by The New York Times and an another expert suggested that eight shots had been fired by the gunman.
I'm still not convinced by Martenson's audio analysis, BTW. The microphone moves 180 degrees between the two volleys, plus the shockwaves and reports on the other videos sound very similar - if the first three shots came from inside a building, the reports should be muffled in comparison to the later shots in all the videos.
Ruth
The Living Force
That sure is a lot to think about and most likely why it has captured the attention of so many people and got so many people thinking too. Perhaps they subconsciously see this as 'fight' between good and evil? And lets face it, the last 4 years has not been a picnic for anyone (unless STS are the ones doing the picnicking). It's my opinion that STO (in whatever form that takes) say's 'enough already', gives STS a good 'wack over the mussel', leaving them dazed and confused (perhaps enough to bring balance, at least temporarily) and then lets them whatever 'game' they are playing.
I'm not sure why you would think that STO 'would not involve themselves'? As I recall, (but don't actually know which session) the C's mentioned that STO 'stepped in' around 1940 to stop the Germans from wining the war and that was a turning point. I think Alan Turning may have had something to do with this, but am unsure whether this would be conscious or unconscious on his part, or if it involved other people (maybe it did, either consciously or unconsciously).
I'm not sure what Divine Intervention is!
Maybe you can ask the Cs next time you talk to them? I don't think it's some being up there on a cloud with a lightning bolt (like Zeus), although I'm sure STS would be really into that as an idea, lol. I've been told that since the shooting, Donald Trump has become 'more religious'. I kinda had a vision of him (maybe in a previous life?) as a priest. Still with the same sense of drama and theatre, mind you. So perhaps in that life his conversations with God would have been discussions with his 'higher self'. Maybe he has just 'reconnected' with that part of who he is?
Yes, it's definitely a lot to think about.
Are there any shots of that window being open before/during the shooting? The pictures the engineer uses all seem to be from the aftermath. (Similar to the infamous SWAT ladder.) This guy says he took this picture right after the shooting - window looks closed, but hard to be 100% sure:
Ruth
The Living Force
And the part of the movie where they play Nessun Dorma:
Could be that Trump is also sending a message by the use of this song.
Maybe it's useful to use this event to help ban AR15 style weapons again?
