Fire at Notre Dame Cathedral in Paris and Other Catholic Churches

[Hi_Henry]

First alarm was at 6:20 according to the New York Times. They write that it took the guard 6 minutes to reach the roof area (nice, close to the clocks) using a stair case seen in this diagram,




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[Hi_Henry]

I don't think so. What you mean I think is what is called the parallax effect or error which is something engineers and mechanics and other specialists are aware of, as part of their learned professions. From my experience I would say the discrepancy of the hour to minutes hands on the two different pictures is far to big from that angle to be just a parallax error. Even if you would look at the clock from almost flat viewpoint in regard to the flat surface of the clock, you would hardly get such a huge parallax error, in fact, it would be rather slight and almost non visible at first sight. You can test that out yourself with a mechanical clock at your disposal.

Angle at which a picture is taken plus lens distortion create distortions of perspective. Here is a perfect example of this in action on ND in this picture,





We can clearly see that the hour/minute hands of the clock on the left appear to be closer together than on the right. The clock on the right however is pointed more straight toward the camera than the one on the left as can be seen by the angle of the little roof area. Hence it more clearly shows the correct time to the viewer.

 

[Cosmos]

Angle at which a picture is taken plus lens distortion create distortions of perspective.

Exactly what I was trying to say with the addition that this phenomena (called parallax error) can‘t explain the way too big discrepancy between the two pictures provided. In other words: I‘m pretty certain that the difference of the hour to minute hand is not mainly do to perspective (a parallax error) but because they were in fact not closely together in that particular picture. The simplest explanation is that those two pictures were taken at different times IMO, therefore the hands of the clock moved. Having said that, I personally don’t see much sense/fruit in exploring this clock business further at this point. There are many mysteries/discrepancies in and around the event that are more interesting to me.

 

[Hi_Henry]

There is an image of a 3rd clock from the north side.


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[mabar]

Even when I don't know believe much on the personages, I still have a very bad taste in my mouth to see them decapitated, the company couldn't weld their heads before because? ... It looks like an exhibition of a punishment.

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SOCRA, the company in charge of restoring Notre-Dame Cathedral, has decided to display to the public statues of twelve apostles and four evangelists who were moved from the spire of the Paris Cathedral four days before the fire.

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[angelburst29]

Maybe this report doesn't belong in this thread but I sense there might be a symbolic connection to the Notre-Dame fire? What is the historical significance of the large square - named "Place Bellecourt" located in Lyon? Also from the article,"The blast occurred on
the central peninsula between the Saone and Rhone rivers that snake through the city."

Friday May 24, 2019 - Explosive device in French city of Lyon injures at least 13
Explosive device in French city of Lyon injures at least 13

At least 13 people, including a child, were injured on Friday (May 24) when a suspected explosive device went off near a bakery in the central French city of Lyon, local officials said.

The precise nature of the device was not immediately clear, and there were no claims of responsibility.

But President Emmanuel Macron, in a live interview on YouTube, called it an “attack,” and the Paris prosecutor’s office said it had opened a terrorism investigation.

France has been a target of terrorist plots in recent years, especially in 2015 and 2016, when extremists waged deadly, large-scale attacks.

In the past few years, attacks have been rarer and much smaller in scale. In December, in the eastern city of Strasbourg, five people were killed by a gunman at a Christmas market.

Police and military patrols in urban areas have become routine, especially in crowded shopping areas and at sensitive sites like train stations.

Friday’s explosion occurred in a pedestrian area crowded with people beginning their weekend, not far from Place Bellecour, a large square in the centre of the city popular with tourists and local residents.

Hubert Julien-Laferriere, a lawmaker for the district, told the BFM TV news channel that witnesses saw a young man with a bicycle dropping off a bag in front of the bakery shortly before the blast. He said the man was being sought by police.

Julien-Laferriere said police suspected that the bag was an explosive device that contained nuts and bolts intended to harm people nearby.

Denis Broliquier, the mayor of the borough, told BFM TV that the suspect had been filmed by surveillance cameras in the area.

The news channel later broadcast footage it said was from those surveillance cameras, showing a blurry image of a man wearing sunglasses and pushing a bicycle. It was not immediately possible to verify the footage, which was not released by the French authorities.

Pictures posted to Twitter showed that the front of a Brioche Doree bakery on Rue Victor Hugo had been cordoned off by police, with glass and debris littering the ground. The blast occurred on the central peninsula between the Saone and Rhone rivers that snake through the city.

Denys Courbier, a doctor who works nearby, told BFM TV that he heard an “absolutely huge noise”.

“I went to my window to see, and I saw that in front of the Brioche Doree, all of the glass in the front window had shattered,” he said.

Christophe Castaner, France’s interior minister, said on Twitter that he had asked authorities around the country to “reinforce security at public sites and at sporting, cultural and religious events”.

Lyon police said two metro stations near the site of the blast had been closed until further notice.

The explosion comes just before French voters go to the polls in elections for the European Parliament.

European Union nations began voting Thursday; voting in France will be held on Sunday.

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[angelburst29]

French police hunt suitcase bomber after blast in Lyon

French police were hunting a suspected suitcase bomber on Friday after an explosion in the central city of Lyon that injured 13 people, officials said.

No claim made for Lyon bomb French anti-terrorism prosecutor says

No claim of responsibility has so far been made for a bomb attack in Lyon on Friday which injured 13 people, French anti-terrorism prosecutor Remy Heitz said on Saturday.

Heitz added that the man thought to have planted the device, who was spotted on CCTV footage, was on the run.

Police investigators said they have not been able to identify the suspect as he was wearing sunglasses and a cap.

 

[angelburst29]

Maybe this report doesn't belong in this thread but I sense there might be a symbolic connection to the Notre-Dame fire? What is the historical significance of the large square - named "Place Bellecourt" located in Lyon? Also from the article,"The blast occurred on
the central peninsula between the Saone and Rhone rivers that snake through the city."

Place Bellecour
Place Bellecour - Wikipedia

Place Bellecour is the kilometer 0 of Lyon: all distances are counted from this point. The square is part of a UNESCO World Heritage Site.
(Notre-Dame Cathedral marks the very center of Paris.)

Symbolically, could the Saone and Rhone rivers represent "twin towers" with Place Bellecour (center marker) target of destruction?

RT caught the connection to other church fires.

Notre Dame fire follows months of arson, vandalism & desecration of French Catholic churches

Today, May 26th, marks a historic event in the consecration of a Christian Orthodox church in Strasburg, France. I pray, it doesn't become another target for destructive vandalism?

Patriarch Kirill consecrates All Saints Church in Strasbourg
He expressed confidence that the new church will become another venue for cooperation between Orthodoxy and Catholicism in France.

© Andrey Ermilov/TASS

Patriarch Kirill of Moscow and All Russia, the head of the Russian Orthodox Church, consecrated the All Saints Church in France’s Strasbourg on Sunday, a TASS correspondent reported.

"Today a historic event is happening for the Orthodox people living in Strasbourg, the first Orthodox church has been consecrated," the patriarch said, voicing confidence that the new church will become another venue for cooperation between Orthodoxy and Catholicism in France.

"We have great respect for the works of Pope Francis and the Catholic episcopate, and we are carefully watching the spiritual order of West Europe. I believe that we should jointly multiply our efforts towards evidence about the Christ. I hope very much that the church will be a house of prayers for Orthodox believers and a place of meeting with the Catholic community, a place of dialogue, which is much needed for Christians living in the conditions of a secularized civilization," the patriarch emphasized.

The ceremony to consecrate the church was also attended by Strasbourg Mayor Roland Ries. "This is a significant event, which is part of the city’s policy to respect all confessions. There were no disputes and debates - the citizens of the neighborhood and I welcomed the construction of this beautiful church," he told reporters. After the service, Patriarch Kirill awarded him with the Order of Seraphim of Sarov of the third degree.

The foundation stone for the Church of All Saints in Strasbourg was laid in 2014. In June 2017, the first liturgy was officiated at the cultural and religious center, which accommodated the parish of the All Saints Church until the construction is over. On December 23, 2018, the Lesser Blessing of the church was celebrated by Bishop Nestor of Kherson.

The head of the Russian Orthodox Church arrived in France for a visit on Saturday. He is also scheduled to meet with representatives of the Catholic church and the leadership of the Council of Europe.

 

[Bastian]

Even when I don't know believe much on the personages, I still have a very bad taste in my mouth to see them decapitated, the company couldn't weld their heads before because? ... It looks like an exhibition of a punishment.

Indeed, an exhibition of a punishment, in the style of Al Quaeda's beheadings !
So it fits well with a Muslim terrorist act (manipulated by the usual suspects), as explained in the last Cs session...

 

[angelburst29]

French police hunt suitcase bomber after blast in Lyon

Lyon bomb blast suspect pledged allegiance to Islamic State: French judicial source
The man suspected to have planted a parcel bomb in the central French city of Lyon that wounded 13 people last week has told investigators that he had pledged allegiance to the Islamic State, a judicial source said on Thursday. Police arrested the main suspect, 24-year-old Algerian computer student, and three other people in connection with the case on Monday.

 

[Maat]

A funny thing : I think we all agree that this event was deeply symbolic. And me first, I took it that way. The problems come as to how read this symbolic event, or better said, what is the genuine meaning of all that, if there is one (I'm not so relativist, and I think there is one indeed).

For several weeks, I heard this one or that one who also sees a symbol give their take on it, and in particular two things which I immediatly discarded as totally wrong, and I would potentially like to know the feeling of others people here interested in this :

- The fire was the wrath of Mother Nature/Isis herself against humanity (I agree with the symbol involving Mother/Isis, but not for the part that it came from her ; for me, since the beginning I saw some satanic aspect, and that it was against her... and humanity)

- For the rooster discovered almost intact : a planted story to glorify the republic. Hmmm, first for a planted story (because it was too miraculous), it hasn't been so much covered ! And the rooster doesn't symbolize the republic for me, but as a gallinaceous, it's Gaul, Gallic, the people of France, and the stone at the end.

Everyone who will have something to say about this is welcome

 

[goyacobol]

A funny thing : I think we all agree that this event was deeply symbolic. And me first, I took it that way. The problems come as to how read this symbolic event, or better said, what is the genuine meaning of all that, if there is one (I'm not so relativist, and I think there is one indeed).

For several weeks, I heard this one or that one who also sees a symbol give their take on it, and in particular two things which I immediatly discarded as totally wrong, and I would potentially like to know the feeling of others people here interested in this :

- The fire was the wrath of Mother Nature/Isis herself against humanity (I agree with the symbol involving Mother/Isis, but not for the part that it came from her ; for me, since the beginning I saw some satanic aspect, and that it was against her... and humanity)

- For the rooster discovered almost intact : a planted story to glorify the republic. Hmmm, first for a planted story (because it was too miraculous), it hasn't been so much covered ! And the rooster doesn't symbolize the republic for me, but as a gallinaceous, it's Gaul, Gallic, the people of France, and the stone at the end.

Everyone who will have something to say about this is welcome

Yes, I see what you are saying. "They" (TPTB, deep-state, Elite, Satanic cults, Elders of Zion, Mossad, 4D STS) would love to use the symbolism to project their agenda but we all should know (but I take if for granted):

Session 22 1994:

Q: (L) Well, since there is so many of us here, why don't they just move in and take over?

A: That is their intention. That has been their intention for quite some time. They have been traveling back and forth through time as you know it, to set things up so that they can absorb a maximum amount of negative energy with the transference from third level to fourth level that this planet is going to experience, in the hopes that they can overtake you on the fourth level and thereby accomplish several things. 1: retaining their race as a viable species; 2: increasing their numbers; 3: increasing their power; 4: expanding their race throughout the realm of fourth density. To do all of this they have been interfering with events for what you would measure on your calendar as approximately 74 thousand years. And they have been doing so in a completely still state of space time traveling backward and forward at will during this work. Interestingly enough, though, all of this will fail.

And, let's not forget this (after all we have hopes too).

 

[Adaryn]

A funny thing : I think we all agree that this event was deeply symbolic. And me first, I took it that way. The problems come as to how read this symbolic event, or better said, what is the genuine meaning of all that, if there is one (I'm not so relativist, and I think there is one indeed).

For several weeks, I heard this one or that one who also sees a symbol give their take on it, and in particular two things which I immediatly discarded as totally wrong, and I would potentially like to know the feeling of others people here interested in this :

- The fire was the wrath of Mother Nature/Isis herself against humanity (I agree with the symbol involving Mother/Isis, but not for the part that it came from her ; for me, since the beginning I saw some satanic aspect, and that it was against her... and humanity)

- For the rooster discovered almost intact : a planted story to glorify the republic. Hmmm, first for a planted story (because it was too miraculous), it hasn't been so much covered ! And the rooster doesn't symbolize the republic for me, but as a gallinaceous, it's Gaul, Gallic, the people of France, and the stone at the end.

Everyone who will have something to say about this is welcome

Hi Maat,
my first reaction when reading that they'd recovered the rooster was not that it was a "planted story' either, but that maybe all was not lost for France and there remains a glimmer of hope. For me too the rooster represents not only the Gauls but also the true France, the France of the cathedrals.
"Stored inside the rooster is one relic of St Denis, one of St Genevieve and one of the thorns from the crown that Jesus Christ wore at the Crucifixion." It's supposed to protect Parisians.

Saint Genevieve (French: Sainte Geneviève; Latin: Sancta Genovefa, Genoveva; from Gaullish geno "race, lineage" and uida "sage" (Nanterre, c.419/422 AD – Paris 502/512 AD), is the patron saint of Paris in the Roman Catholic and Eastern Orthodox traditions. Her feast day is kept on January the 3rd.

She was born in Nanterre and moved to Paris after encountering Germanus of Auxerre and Lupus of Troyes and dedicated herself to a Christian life. In 451 she led a "prayer marathon" that was said to have saved Paris by diverting Attila's Huns away from the city. When the Germanic king Childeric I besieged the city in 464, she acted as an intermediary between the city and its besiegers, collecting food and convincing Childeric to release his prisoners.

Her following and her status as patron saint of Paris were promoted by Clotilde, who may have commissioned the writing of her vita. This was most likely written in Tours, where Clotilde retired after her husband's death, as evidenced also by the importance of Martin of Tours as a saintly model.

Though there is a vita that purports to be written by a contemporary, Genevieve's history cannot be separated from her hagiography. She was described as a peasant girl born in Nanterre to Severus (a Gallo-Roman) and Geroncia (Greek origins). On his way to Britain, Germanus of Auxerre stopped at Nanterre, and Genevieve confided to him that she wanted to live only for God. He encouraged her and at the age of fifteen, Genevieve became a nun. On the deaths of her parents, she went to live with her godmother Lutetia in Paris ("Lutetia" was the former name of the city of Paris, so this has symbolic weight.) There the young woman became admired for her piety and devotion to works of charity, and practiced corporal austerities which included abstaining from meat and breaking her fast only twice in the week. "These mortifications she continued for over thirty years, till her ecclesiastical superiors thought it their duty to make her diminish her austerities." She encountered opposition and criticism for her activities, both before and after she was again visited by Germanus from those who were jealous or considered her an impostor or hypocrite.

Geneviève had frequent visions of heavenly saints and angels. She reported her visions and prophecies, until her enemies conspired to drown her in a lake. Through the intervention of Germanus, their animosity was finally overcome. The Bishop of Paris appointed her to look after the welfare of the virgins dedicated to God, and by her instruction and example she led them to a high degree of sanctity.

Shortly before the attack of the Huns under Attila in 451 on Paris, Genevieve and Germanus' archdeacon persuaded the panic-stricken people of Paris not to flee but to pray. It is claimed that the intercession of Genevieve's prayers caused Attila's army to go to Orléans instead. During Childeric's siege and blockade of Paris in 464, Geneviève passed through the siege lines in a boat to Troyes, bringing grain to the city. She also pleaded to Childeric for the welfare of prisoners-of-war, and met with a favorable response. Through her influence, Childeric and Clovis displayed unwonted clemency towards the citizens.

Genevieve cherished a particular devotion to Saint Denis, and wished to erect a chapel in his honor to house his relics. Around 475 Genevieve purchased some land at the site of the saint's burial and exhorted the neighboring priests to use their utmost endeavors. When they replied that they had no lime, she sent them to the bridge of Paris, where they learned the whereabouts of large quantities of this material from the conversation of two swineherds. After this the building proceeded successfully. The small chapel became a famous place of pilgrimage during the fifth and sixth centuries.[/QUOTE

 

[angelburst29]

The French Senate passed a Bill late on Monday (May 27) approving the reconstruction of the Notre Dame Cathedral in Paris following the fire last month that destroyed its roof and spire.

French Senate approves Bill on reconstruction of Notre Dame cathedral
French Senate approves Bill on reconstruction of Notre Dame cathedral

The Bill, calling for swift reconstruction of the Notre Dame Cathedral, was approved by French lawmakers earlier in the month.PHOTO: AFP

The Bill was passed after a lengthy debate, French news agency AFP reported.

The Bill, calling for swift reconstruction of the landmark, was approved by French lawmakers earlier in the month. It included controversial exemptions to environmental and heritage rules and exemptions to the public bidding process for contractors.

A statement released by the Senate late on Monday said that the Upper Chamber adopted the National Assembly's Bill "with modifications", without going into detail.

An opinion poll published in April showed most respondents want the cathedral rebuilt exactly as it was before the fire.

President Emmanuel Macron has announced an international competition that he says could lead to replacing the destroyed spire with a "contemporary architectural statement".

The spire, which stood 93 metres high over the central crossing of the cathedral, was itself the work of 19th century restorer Eugene Viollet le Duc. An earlier medieval spire was demolished in the 18th century.

Mr Macron wants the restoration work completed in five years, although several experts say that timetable is too ambitious.

 

[Maat]

The French Senate passed a Bill late on Monday (May 27) approving the reconstruction of the Notre Dame Cathedral in Paris following the fire last month that destroyed its roof and spire.

French Senate approves Bill on reconstruction of Notre Dame cathedral
French Senate approves Bill on reconstruction of Notre Dame cathedral

The Bill, calling for swift reconstruction of the Notre Dame Cathedral, was approved by French lawmakers earlier in the month.PHOTO: AFP

The Bill was passed after a lengthy debate, French news agency AFP reported.

The Bill, calling for swift reconstruction of the landmark, was approved by French lawmakers earlier in the month. It included controversial exemptions to environmental and heritage rules and exemptions to the public bidding process for contractors.

A statement released by the Senate late on Monday said that the Upper Chamber adopted the National Assembly's Bill "with modifications", without going into detail.

An opinion poll published in April showed most respondents want the cathedral rebuilt exactly as it was before the fire.

President Emmanuel Macron has announced an international competition that he says could lead to replacing the destroyed spire with a "contemporary architectural statement".

The spire, which stood 93 metres high over the central crossing of the cathedral, was itself the work of 19th century restorer Eugene Viollet le Duc. An earlier medieval spire was demolished in the 18th century.

Mr Macron wants the restoration work completed in five years, although several experts say that timetable is too ambitious.

Speaking for me : don't want an "international competition" nor a "contemporary architecture" but some small artisans who have the love of a well done work, taking the time it takes, and without the will to leave a name ; as it was before.