FOTCM: Application for Membership

[Laura]

The form needs the PC P.O. Box (which was just acquired) and not QFG P.O. Box.

 

[domi]

The form needs the PC P.O. Box (which was just acquired) and not QFG P.O. Box.

Ok. I will make the change and email it to you shortly.

Dominique

 

[Gawan]

Application form can be found on the paloechristianity website http://paleochristianity.org and a direct link is http://paleochristianity.org/documents/FOTCM_Membership_Application.pdf

Great, the website is online!
I thought today if I should wait for further changes, in my case: donation, but I donated today in the old way.

And it is good to see, that you are going with paypal, I think it is for some people more usable and a great alternative.

And as well great idea with the article: "religion or science"

Report back if you have any issues with the form.
Adobe Reader is probably the best app to open it with. The Preview app in MacOS does a few strange things with it as far as alignment of certain fields.
Hopefully an updated version will be posted soon where you can save the typed content of the file to disk.

On my mac it's fine.

 

[Laura]

Well, the paypal thing doesn't work yet because the froze the account almost the instant it was opened and demanded a whole raft of paperwork. Typical.

 

[doublea1535]

I had issues with the PDF on Ubuntu Linux using the standard Document Viewer (evince). The issue is that I could fill in the fields, but unless my cursor was in that field the text would not display. Upon printing, every field I filled in was blank, except for the check boxes.

I ended up using FoxIt Reader under Windows and it printed fine. My application is in the mail! :D

 

[Saman]

Re: Access to the New Forum

OK thank you Laura and Ailén for your responses. I will wait two more weeks with paitence.

 

[Richs]

The new site is GREAT!.
Congratulations and thanks to all who worked so very hard (and so quickly) to put it all together.

Yeah, Paypal is a bummer in some ways but will be very helpful when it is finally all set up and working properly.

 

[StrawMan]

I had issues with the PDF on Ubuntu Linux using the standard Document Viewer (evince). The issue is that I could fill in the fields, but unless my cursor was in that field the text would not display. Upon printing, every field I filled in was blank, except for the check boxes.

I ended up using FoxIt Reader under Windows and it printed fine. My application is in the mail! :D

I was just about to bring to everyone's attention...

Foxit Reader is a far better PDF viewer than Adobe will ever be, and uses far less resources, therefore loads a whole lot quicker too.
For anyone that does not have a PDF viewer yet or has Adobe... uninstall it and grab Foxit Reader here.

 

[Scottie]

Foxit Reader is a far better PDF viewer than Adobe will ever be, and uses far less resources, therefore loads a whole lot quicker too.
For anyone that does not have a PDF viewer yet or has Adobe... uninstall it and grab Foxit Reader here.

I second that. I always avoided Foxit, and after dealing with Acrobat's bloat and pokeyness, I finally switched over to Foxit's free reader. WOW! It loads instantly, has a few extra nifty features, and if you're using Windows Desktop Search in XP, or Vista or Win 7, it will pop up an update window after a little bit and offer you the "Foxit PDF iFilter". If you install it, it will give Windows the ability to index the content of PDF files for searches, just like Acrobat.

Did I mention it's not bloated, fast, and has nifty features? ;D

 

[Gaby]

I love Foxit, it allows to highlight and write notes over the text. :)

 

[Tina]

I love Foxit, it allows to highlight and write notes over the text. :)

Whoa that's cool! I just downloaded this program and found the highlight thinga majig. It's a much better faster program. Thanks for the heads up on this one.

 

[Alejo]

i like the website, :) on my way to join! thank you guys, great work.

 

[Manu]

I'm having trouble arranging a money order or a check to send with my application. Can I make a donation through paypal and quote it on the application?

 

[sitta]

I’m going to send this application soon but I think I found one little problem. I don’t know how it is in the USA or in France but in Poland it is illegal to give out somebody else’s personal data without this person’s knowledge or permission (according to “Ustawa z dnia 29 sierpnia 1997 r. o ochronie danych osobowych.” rozdział 3/art. 23, http://isip.sejm.gov.pl/servlet/Search?todo=open&id=WDU19971330883) and, unfortunately, the member of my family who I live with is definitely not interested in sharing this kind of information with any church or religion that isn’t Roman Catholic. I’ think I clearly understand this act (or am I wrong, I’m exaggerating the problem and there are some Poles who see it differently, or maybe it is not Polish but American law important in this situation?) so what if I’ll send this application without this particular data, would it be rejected then?

In Art.27 of Protection of Personal Data bill (“Ustawa z dnia 29 sierpnia 1997 r. o ochronie danych osobowych.” ) is stated:

2. Przetwarzanie danych, o których mowa w ust. 1, jest jednak dopuszczalne, jeżeli:
1) osoba, której dane dotyczą, wyrazi na to zgodę na piśmie, chyba że chodzi o usunięcie dotyczących jej danych,
2) przepis szczególny innej ustawy zezwala na przetwarzanie takich danych bez zgody osoby, której dane dotyczą, i stwarza pełne gwarancje ich ochrony,
3) przetwarzanie takich danych jest niezbędne do ochrony żywotnych interesów osoby, której dane dotyczą, lub innej osoby, gdy osoba, której dane dotyczą, nie jest fizycznie lub prawnie zdolna do wyrażenia zgody, do czasu ustanowienia opiekuna prawnego lub kuratora,
4) jest to niezbędne do wykonania statutowych zadań kościołów i innych związków wyznaniowych, stowarzyszeń, fundacji lub innych niezarobkowych
organizacji lub instytucji o celach politycznych, naukowych, religijnych, filozoficznych lub związkowych, pod warunkiem, że przetwarzanie
danych dotyczy wyłącznie członków tych organizacji lub instytucji albo osób utrzymujących z nimi stałe kontakty w związku z ich działalnością i
zapewnione są pełne gwarancje ochrony przetwarzanych danych,
5) przetwarzanie dotyczy danych, które są niezbędne do dochodzenia praw przed sądem,
6) przetwarzanie jest niezbędne do wykonania zadań administratora danych odnoszących się do zatrudnienia pracowników i innych osób, a zakres przetwarzanych danych jest określony w ustawie,
7) przetwarzanie jest prowadzone w celu ochrony stanu zdrowia, świadczenia usług medycznych lub leczenia pacjentów przez osoby trudniące się zawodowo
leczeniem lub świadczeniem innych usług medycznych, zarządzania udzielaniem usług medycznych i są stworzone pełne gwarancje ochrony danych
osobowych,
8) przetwarzanie dotyczy danych, które zostały podane do wiadomości publicznej przez osobę, której dane dotyczą,
9) jest to niezbędne do prowadzenia badań naukowych, w tym do przygotowania rozprawy wymaganej do uzyskania dyplomu ukończenia szkoły wyższej
lub stopnia naukowego; publikowanie wyników badań naukowych nie może następować w sposób umożliwiający identyfikację osób, których dane zostały
przetworzone,
10) przetwarzanie danych jest prowadzone przez stronę w celu realizacji praw i obowiązków wynikających z orzeczenia wydanego w postępowaniu sądowym
lub administracyjnym.

In english:
2. Data processing talked about in Bill 1 is however acceptable if:
1) Person, which this data is about, permits it in writing, unless it's about removal of those data.
2) Specific regulation of other bill allows processing of this kind of data without permission of a person this data is about, and gives full guarantees of their protection,
3) Processing of this kind of data is necessary for life interests of a persons which this data concerns, or other person in case of being physically or by law unable to give one's consent to it, for a time when guardian or curator is appointed.
4) It's neccesary for churches and other creed relations, associations, foundations or other unpaid (unearning) organizations of political, scentific, religious, philosophical or trade unions institutions, provided that data processed concern exclusively members of that organizations or institutions, or persons that are in constant contact with them because of their activity and gives full guarantees for protection of processed data.


That basically means (in my understanding) that we (Poles) can give you names of our families (even if they are not part of FOTCM) if you give
full guarantees for protection of those data .

Of course my interpretation of this law could be way off

 

[Jacques]

I'm having trouble arranging a money order or a check to send with my application. Can I make a donation through paypal and quote it on the application?

I do not see any problem in doing that. Moreover, when you do a donation through paypal, you have the possibility to write a message to the person.