Frontier Internet Technician Clubs Miniature Schnauzer.

Teresa said:
I'm really glad to hear that Pepper is doing okay. It's very sad that she has brain damage but at least she's with a family who loves her and will take care of her.

I'm glad too, and hope that Pepper will getting better.

I like the group as member no. 53.
 
Guardian said:
Gray had two lawyers and even his mommie showed up.

Gray has two lawyers, eh? Sounds like he may be having help in his financing of lawyers.

Glad that Pepper has stabilized. It's just a shame that she now has to live with brain damage, as well as those attending to her. It's got to be traumatic for the little child.
 
Teresa said:
Oh right, budget cuts. I should have thought of that before posting.

I'm really glad to hear that Pepper is doing okay. It's very sad that she has brain damage but at least she's with a family who loves her and will take care of her.

Yeah, and fortunately she's smaller than a shoe box, so she can have a decent life as a well loved lap puppy. The way the court was overbooked and the fact that we wasted half a day made me VERY angry, I spent 5 hours in pantyhose for NOTHING ...but it's really not the staff's fault. That ADA was physically dripping sweat as he was juggling a HUGE stack of cases and his staff looked like they were in serious need of a vacation too.

I also talked to several people who had cases on the docket while we were outside smoking cigarettes, and some of them had been to court 2-3 times trying to get heard. It's a HUGE mess, basically caused by the fact that our wealthiest citizens pay next to nothing in taxes, and the corporations like Duke Energy that make BILLIONS off our area's resources actually get tax refunds and rate hikes, which we all have to pay because they own our politicians lock, stock and barrel.

Same 'ol same 'ol living under Corporate Rule.
 
Nienna Eluch said:
Gray has two lawyers, eh? Sounds like he may be having help in his financing of lawyers.

Yup, one is a local lawyer from town, and the other is a lawyer from Asheville we think Frontier hired.

Glad that Pepper has stabilized. It's just a shame that she now has to live with brain damage, as well as those attending to her. It's got to be traumatic for the little child.

Yeah, it is pitiful watching him carry his little dog around because she can't follow him anymore.
 
Guardian said:
Well, I do have about twenty seven eight-by-ten colour glossy photographs with circles and arrows and a paragraph on the back of each one explaining what each one was to be used as evidence against him ;D

Too bad you can't make the guy clean up the garbage. :cool2:

Have they tried DMSO on Pepper?
 
I just got back from 9 hours in court, about 3 of which were the actual trial, and Joshua Gray just got off Scott free.

I'm so angry right now I need to calm down and breath before I write up the full story, but basically, from what I could understand of the proceeding, the law says that's it's perfectly legal for a Frontier Service Technician to come into your yard, walk right up to your frantically barking, leashed dog, and club it the head, as long as he doesn't do it "intentionally?" ...and it's practically impossible to prove a person's motivation.

I was repeatedly insulted by the Defense Attorney "Lowell" (I think, gonna find out a LOT more about this particular land shark Frontier hired) who called me "Wiccan" :mad:

I am HEATHEN Mr. Fancy Pants Frontier Lawyer, a Norse Pagan, NOT a "Wiccan!" Kindly learn to tell the difference if you're going show contempt for my personal Spiritual beliefs in a court of law. If you want to try an prejudice the court because I follow a PRE-Christian religion, at least pick the right one!

He also said I owed a contractor $20,000.00?? I have NO idea where he got that one? I think my neighbor is having a legal dispute with a contractor over a road, but I'm not a party to it...I 'don't even know they guy's last name? I never got to respond to any of Mr. Fancy Pant's lies, because every time he spouted one, the Prosecution Attorney would object, and the Judge would sustain the objection because everything Mr. Fancy Pants brought out was TOTALLY irrelevant anyway.


ARRGGGGGGGGGG :headbash: :headbash: :headbash: :headbash:

...more.....MUCH more later.
 
Guardian said:
I just got back from 9 hours in court, about 3 of which were the actual trial, and Joshua Gray just got off Scott free.

I'm so angry right now I need to calm down and breath before I write up the full story, but basically, from what I could understand of the proceeding, the law says that's it's perfectly legal for a Frontier Service Technician to come into your yard, walk right up to your frantically barking, leashed dog, and club it the head, as long as he doesn't have "malicious intent" ...and it's practically impossible to prove a person's motivation.

I was repeatedly insulted by the Defense Attorney "Lowell" (I think, gonna find out a LOT more about this particular land shark Frontier hired) who called me "Wiccan" :mad:

I am HEATHEN Mr. Fancy Pants Frontier Lawyer, a Norse Pagan, NOT a "Wiccan!" Kindly learn to tell the difference if you're going show contempt for my personal Spiritual beliefs in a court of law. If you want to try an prejudice the court because I follow a PRE-Christian religion, at least pick the right one!

He also said I owed a contractor $20,000.00?? I have NO idea where he got that one? I think my neighbor is having a legal dispute with a contractor over a road, but I'm not a party to it...I 'don't even know they guy's last name? I never got to respond to any of Mr. Fancy Pant's lies, because every time he spouted one, the Prosecution Attorney would object, and the Judge would sustain the objection because everything Mr. Fancy Pants brought out was TOTALLY irrelevant anyway.


ARRGGGGGGGGGG :headbash: :headbash: :headbash: :headbash:

...more.....MUCH more later.

Wow, this is insane!! What the heck does your (wrongly interpreted ) spiritual beliefs have to do with any freaking thing?? I have known some Norse Pagans in my days (also studied it myself), and it is not even similar or close in any way to Wicca - which I've studied also.

Can a civil suit be brought forth? Vet bills paid by this scum? I don't know the law.

I agree, absolutely completely irrelevant. When you feel up to it, I'd love to hear the details. I still hope he gets SOME sort of punishment.

Sorry that you had to go through that process for almost nothing. I hope Pepper continues to improve. What a sad world we live in. :(

Edited for more details.
 
Dawn said:
Wow, this is insane!! What the heck does your (wrongly interpreted ) spiritual beliefs have to do with any freaking thing??

Absolutely nothing...except that I expect Lawyer Fancy Pants was getting paid by the hour?

I have known some Norse Pagans in my days (also studied it myself), and it is not even similar or close in any way to Wicca - which I've studied also.

Well, I think Mr Fancy Pants and his friends are about to learn the difference between a Wiccan and a Norsewoman. I THINK I just figured out the "I owe a contractor $20,000.00" lie. I did have a dispute with a contractor awhile ago that amounted to about $7000.00, however we settled our issues (which were technical) MONTHS before Joshua Gray clubbed Pepper...in fact, the contractor in question is still working for me.

What makes this interesting is that no one knew about the dispute except the contractor, my lawyer, and his lawyer, who happens to be the first Lawyer Grey hired. We never went to court, there were some misunderstandings that we worked out, and like I said, that contractor is still working for me. In fact, I just talked to him and he say's he didn't tell anyone except his attorney.

I can just tell I'm going to be filing Bar complaints against somebody before this is all over with. How did Grey's attorney find out about a PRIVATE contractual dispute to which his first lawyer was a party? Why did Lawyer Fancy Pants claim that it was ongoing when the issue was settled way before Pepper was attacked? Why did he more than double the amount of the original dispute, even if you add the claims from both sides together?

Can a civil suit be brought forth? Vet bills paid by this scum? I don't know the law.

Frontier is paying the vet bills, and the Rarrick's can bring a Civil if they can find an Attorney to take the case. The Lawyer that originally offered his services didn't follow through, I think due to illness?

I agree, absolutely completely irrelevant. When you feel up to it, I'd love to hear the details. I still hope he gets SOME sort of punishment.

Evidently NONE at all. He was suspended for a short period of time WITH PAY, but he's back to work, walking into people's yards again like nothing happened. Even IF you believe EVERY WORD of his lame, contradictory, "I was so over worked I was zombiefied to the point that I just didn't notice TWO miniature schnauzers frantically yapping in high C" story ... that's the kind of person Frontier Communications is sending into our back yards? REALLY?

Frontier Communications Technicians who are so oblivious to their surroundings that they're "surprised" by TWO of the loudest, most obnoxious barking, breed of dog on the planet? REALLY?

According to his testimony Grey was a MARINE for 4 years, and his "surprise reflex action" to a 12" tall, 15 lb barking dog is to club it senseless? This is who Frontier Communications is sending onto pet owner's properties? REALLY?

Frontier Communication's "Security Division" has done an "Extensive Investigation" ...but they NEVER spoke to the witnesses, or even asked to. REALLY??

I can actually understand how he got off on the criminal charge, it's how the law is written, and I figured that if we lost, that would be why. His lawyer brought up a hundred year old precedence that I'd actually found too, regarding a guy who was "surprised" by a horse and hit it in the head with a rock....and that guy got off too.

What I DO NOT understand is that even if Frontier Communication believes every single word of Grey's story, how can they continue to send this man onto customer's property when MANY of these customers have pets constrained in their yards?
 
This is the statue Joshua Grey was charged with violating.

(a) If any person shall intentionally overdrive, overload, wound, injure, torment, kill, or deprive of necessary sustenance, or cause or procure to be overdriven, overloaded, wounded, injured, tormented, killed, or deprived of necessary sustenance, any animal, every such offender shall for every such offense be guilty of a Class 1 misdemeanor.

and if I understood correctly, it was the "intentional" part that wasn't proven. It was ruled an "accident" ...Zombie tech just tripped over the bouncing noise box, and then clubbed her nearly to death. Woopsie

So what happens when it's a Doberman?
 
I was repeatedly insulted by the Defense Attorney "Lowell" (I think, gonna find out a LOT more about this particular land shark Frontier hired) who called me "Wiccan"

What a psychopaths? What this have to do, with the almost killing the little dog?
 
Kaigen said:
I was repeatedly insulted by the Defense Attorney "Lowell" (I think, gonna find out a LOT more about this particular land shark Frontier hired) who called me "Wiccan"

What a psychopaths? What this have to do, with the almost killing the little dog?

Absolutely nothing. I think Lawyer Fancy Pants might have just been trying to make me mad, in which case, he succeeded.

I can actually understand how Grey got off, the law is a tricky thing...and animals are legally property. I think the ADA did a good job, but it came down to the legal definition of one word with a 100 year old legal precident.

What I do NOT understand is what my Spiritual preferences have to do with the fact that I heard Pepper and Spunky barking from the moment Gray pulled into the drive? EVERYONE on the property heard Pepper and Spunky barking from the moment Gray pulled into the drive! I'd also like to know where they got "Wiccan" from? Do I took like a fuzzy bunny, lets go skip around the Maypole kinda woman to you?? Oh, and then there's the LARGE Thor's Hammer hanging around my neck in plain view.

If you are a man of Letters, and intend to insult me in a court of law, then at least do your homework and get your irrelevant, prejudicial, religious accusations straight.

His name is Thor, he has a nifty Hammer, I'm sure you've heard of him?
 
If this Grey guy did this hideous thing once, there is a good chance he may do it again. Maybe next time it will be a child. Then where will Frontier's position be???? Huh, Huh, can the judge or Mr. Fancy Pants lawyer tell us that????

It is unfortunate that you did not get the chance to correct the Wiccan- Heathen comment. So much ignorance in our world today. Is there any thing you could do about religious freedom being put up as a defense against you? And why you? Discreditting a witness due to their religion seems illegal or something. At least it should be.

And I have never once mistaken you for a fluffy bunny bubble blowing kinda person. ;)
 

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