George Floyd's Death, Protests and Riots across the US

Feds won't leave Portland ‘until there is safety’: Trump rejects Oregon governor's claim that ‘occupying force’ is leaving city
In a Thursday morning tweet, Trump said Governor Kate Brown “isn’t doing her job” and insisted that protesters must be cleared out and “in some cases” arrested. “If she can’t do it, the Federal Government will do it for her. We will not be leaving until there is safety!” he wrote.
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Feds won't leave Portland ‘until there is safety’: Trump rejects Oregon governor's claim that ‘occupying force’ is leaving city

Less than a day after Oregon’s governor claimed federal agents would leave Portland and let local officials handle Black Lives Matter protesters, President Donald Trump said they are going nowhere until things are under control.
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hlat said:
Which actions?
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Let's start with their shooting of someone in the head. That person was across the street from federal property and not a threat. The federal officers left federal property on numerous occasions to use crowd control munitions and physical force on the city streets. I absolutely do not support the rioters, but I believe that this is out of the fed's jurisdiction and may be a violation of the US Constitution. There may be other examples, this is just off the top of my head.
 
Nucifera said:
Breaking — Missouri Attorney General dismisses all charges against gun-toting McCloskeys…

There's little additional info in this article. The headline pretty much says it all.

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Breaking — Missouri Attorney General dismisses all charges against gun-toting McCloskeys…

Just hit the wires in the past 10 minutes… Missouri AG dropping charges against St. Louis couple who defended their home with guns ST. LOUIS, MO – Kim Gardner, Cir…
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looks like it's not official yet, just cliked the link and got this...
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Law Enforcement Today, who published this story earlier today, just backtracked…





Law Enforcement Today Editor’s Note: A previous version of this story suggested all charges were dropped against the couple. That is not yet formally the case. The Missouri AG is still seeking to dismiss the case. We’ll be sure to keep you updated on this breaking story as new details become available.
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Nucifera said:
Let's start with their shooting of someone in the head. That person was across the street from federal property and not a threat. The federal officers left federal property on numerous occasions to use crowd control munitions and physical force on the city streets. I absolutely do not support the rioters, but I believe that this is out of the fed's jurisdiction and may be a violation of the US Constitution. There may be other examples, this is just off the top of my head.
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There is that saying attack is the best defence and extreme times require extreme measures. One is theory another is practice. One set of rules for one group and another for others. Those rioters also violate Constitution if I am correct for more then 60 days in a row and loot and burn and would even kill if having the means (that is not excluded yet). They should then be left to local authorities to leave them be? How do you forrbid someone to come to premises if not distancing him? And by the way in these kind of situations Constitutions and laws, especially today, tend to be very easily forgotten.
 
Corvus said:
There is that saying attack is the best defence and extreme times require extreme measures. One is theory another is practice. One set of rules for one group and another for others. Those rioters also violate Constitution if I am correct for more then 60 days in a row and loot and burn and would even kill if having the means (that is not excluded yet). They should then be left to local authorities to leave them be? How do you forrbid someone to come to premises if not distancing him? And by the way in these kind of situations Constitutions and laws, especially today, tend to be very easily forgotten.
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Rioters have been breaking the law. Local police, and especially local government have been ineffective at quelling the unrest. Trump took controversial action, which was ineffective other than ratcheting things up. Tonight begins a new strategy, and haven't yet seen reports. There are layers, offenses on both sides, and people will parse things differently for various reasons.

The ideal situation IMO would have been for police to be allowed allowed to do their jobs. However, there are layers of complexity there also as the Portland police are militarized, politicized, sometimes overly violent, and not properly accountable. The city is out of balance on a number of axes. If the city can't handle things, the next proper level is the governor. The governor is just as ineffective at her level as the Portland mayor is at his. So Trump jumped in with some grandstanding and matters are now worse. IMO there is failure at every level, if indeed it is failure and not by design.

We need to recognize and remember that very little of this is organic. It's easier to get bogged down in the trees and not see the forest. Part of the reason I have posted so much about Portland is that I can add some local news and perspective to the riots here. The bigger picture is that riots have been happening in much of the world, and many broke out at exactly the same time. That higher level pattern is more important to deciphering and dealing with the mess, psychologically, spiritually, and physically. The whole thing is systemic and intentional as far as I can see. Laws and constitutions are inconsequential, perhaps minor annoyances. That's not to say we go along with the agenda, but we're in new territory.
 
Google engineer who programs censorship algorithms arrested at Portland BLM riot
Trudo is now being held at the Multnomah County Detention Center on charges of assault, resisting arrest, interfering with a peace officer, and trying to escape. He is an outspoken supporter of Bernie Sanders, and a self-described Marxist who, prior to his arrest, used social media to call for Portland to be “burned to the ground.”
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Google engineer who programs censorship algorithms arrested at Portland BLM riot

Zachary Trudo, an AI (artificial intelligence) software developer who works for Google, was reportedly arrested in Portland the other day after allegedly committing numerous crimes at a Black Lives Matter (BLM) riot. Trudo is now being held at the Multnomah County Detention Center on charges of a
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Seattle launches investigation after supply van full of weapons found trailing behind rioters
One aspect of the weekend’s events the Police Chief discussed was a van which was seen following a small group of violent rioters. Witnesses saw people taking weapons out of the van and police later seized it and found it was full of homemade weapons and armor.
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Police later impounded the van and, after obtaining a search warrant, discovered firework pyrotechnics, smoke bombs, stun guns, bear and pepper spray, makeshift spike strips and gas masks, Best said…
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Seattle launches investigation after supply van full of weapons found trailing behind rioters

"discovered firework pyrotechnics, smoke bombs, stun guns, bear and pepper spray, makeshift spike strips and gas masks"
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Nucifera said:
Rioters have been breaking the law. Local police, and especially local government have been ineffective at quelling the unrest. Trump took controversial action, which was ineffective other than ratcheting things up. Tonight begins a new strategy, and haven't yet seen reports. There are layers, offenses on both sides, and people will parse things differently for various reasons.

The ideal situation IMO would have been for police to be allowed allowed to do their jobs. However, there are layers of complexity there also as the Portland police are militarized, politicized, sometimes overly violent, and not properly accountable. The city is out of balance on a number of axes. If the city can't handle things, the next proper level is the governor. The governor is just as ineffective at her level as the Portland mayor is at his. So Trump jumped in with some grandstanding and matters are now worse. IMO there is failure at every level, if indeed it is failure and not by design.

We need to recognize and remember that very little of this is organic. It's easier to get bogged down in the trees and not see the forest. Part of the reason I have posted so much about Portland is that I can add some local news and perspective to the riots here. The bigger picture is that riots have been happening in much of the world, and many broke out at exactly the same time. That higher level pattern is more important to deciphering and dealing with the mess, psychologically, spiritually, and physically. The whole thing is systemic and intentional as far as I can see. Laws and constitutions are inconsequential, perhaps minor annoyances. That's not to say we go along with the agenda, but we're in new territory.
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Trump as I see it did not have many options because he is damned if he does it by left and media and damned by supporters if he does not do nothing, and it is his responsibility to those in need to help and quell riots, but when the efforts to restore peace are sabotaged on local level and those riots are financed by billioners and thus have unlimited resources of course there is no end, and think it would get worse if he did not intend to act because the more you give them the more they ask. At least those riots are centered around those buildings and not so much around people s livehoods. If there was not Trump that is nuisance for them and blocks PTB plans in a way they would be full steam ahead. Think the things would get more interesting for US following the elections. The thing with those protests is that they want to inflict damage and pain and when it is inflicted to them they are like children, they thought it is ok when we do it but not a way around, entitlement-how dare they do it. People are looking for the wrong perpetrators when it comes to lack of legal side of it, people get bogged by minor irrelevant things and nitpicking (maybe influenced by media?) and do not see more important things and bigger picture as you said.
 
Nucifera said:

U.S Attorney Billy Williams seems pretty articulate here. He has some choice, diplomatic words for Portland and the local government.
[That said, some actions of the federal officers must be addressed.]
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Here is an excerpt from this RAW interview, since I think this U.S. Attorney speaking finally arrives at a very important point regarding the [deliberately] inaccurate terminology the media uses to characterize what's going on:

RAW: So, we're going back to, what you were talking about, this is shadowing the overall message about Black Lives Matter, right? You feel like the late-night demonstrations are taking away from the fight for racial justice.

[Note: if you are in the media, and you can't even formulate a clear, concise question, there's already a problem here. Rutger University's plan to dumb down grammar just sprung to mind, so language skills in general are obviously heading in the wrong direction. And that's not a black/white issue. This is a white woman talking. Even the Attorney General could use some polish, if you ask me (!)]

U.S. ATTORNEY GENERAL BILLY WILLIAMS: These aren't late-night demonstrations. This is criminal activity. There's a difference. What you have failed, and the media have failed to distinguish between -- you seem unwilling to call, um um, people engaged in criminal conduct as criminals, as opposed to lawful protesting.

RAW: Well, some may argue that the way the federal agents are acting is criminal too, I'm not saying --

ATTY GENERAL WILLIAMS: Argue away on that.

RAW: But, we're not saying either, so...

ATTY GENERAL WILLIAMS: Well, so, so, I'm just saying there needs to be a distinction made between lawful, constitutionally protected protests and THIS. This is unlawful. And people, whether you're an opportunist, an antagonist, an agitator, or an anarchist, um, call it out for what it is.

RAW: So, you're saying the late-night activity that is criminal --

ATTY GENERAL WILLIAMS: What I'm telling you is, you seem to refuse to call something -- "late night activity" [he makes air quotes] -- this is criminal.

RAW: I just said, the late-night activity that you say is criminal, right?

ATTY GENERAL WILLIAMS: What I'm saying is, why can't you call it out as such? You're using "late night activity," it sounds like a party. It's criminal. [pointing to the graffiti and destruction to the federal building] We haven't had a front door since July 3rd. Uh, that's criminal. Okay? So --

RAW: But, I'm just saying. I'm not a police officer, I don't get to distinguish that. That's not my job.

ATTY GENERAL WILLIAMS: No, but you can call it out for what it is. You're choosing terms that sort of downplay the criminal activity, and what I'm suggesting is, if there is an honest accounting of what this is, that helps build the reality check for how this can stop. That's my point.

[end excerpt]

So, according to this RAW reporter, you have to be a police officer to be able to distinguish between peaceful protesting and violent criminal activity. She seems rather earnest too; doesn't seem to understand the point being made here. If she did, it's possible she'd lose her job, so there's a lot of pressure on these people to continue with their willful blindness. Still, at least this Attorney General rather patiently made for her an important point. Hopefully, it will weigh on her a bit the next time she characterizes violent criminal acts as "late-night activity."
 
I love how he knew he wasn’t supposed to say anything about that, but he just went: “fuck em”, and spilled the beans and called out the National Lawyers Guild by name. Even going into the specifics of the liquidity of the ball fund they have setup right now. “Flush with cash” as he put it.

ANTIFA Tough Guy Spills The Beans On Who Is Backing And Bailing Them Out Of Jail | The National Lawyers Guild




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ANTIFA tough guys, who's actually tough.

 
About the Antifa tough guy...

I remember reading a manifesto from Bin Laden, and in his writing, he criticized America and it all seemed like fair criticism....

And it wasn't anything that I hadn't read from other American critics.

So, it occured that maybe it was to take criticism of America, put it in a manifesto, and sign Bin Ladens name to it, so that - during this time, when America was getting over-aggressive to the point where Americans were concerned about war and American casualties - any standpoint contrary to a war footing would be equated to a Bin Laden mentality - Bin Laden being a notorious terrorist.

So, it was basically an admission of Americas policy - and no one could deny it, so they smeared the message with the association to Bin Laden. And who knows what the actual effect was, for it is incalculable to measure persuasion. And so it is a inexact science - propaganda. And it isn't about fooling anyone, but it manipulates fools. Gives them direction. Or in this case, it told the fools: 'that is what Bin Laden said'. Nevermind its merit, because the fool doesn't discern.

So, the Antifada guy, standing around without a shirt doing a World Wide Wrestling act, showing how he has a lawyers guild number written on his arm is interesting, but I think of the desired effect is to laugh at him diminishing this slip of tongue: that white-collars are behind the thuggery and lawlessness. And the notion of it being organized mocked by a foolish wannabe put on display.
 
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