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George Floyd's Death, Protests and Riots across the US
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I don't see the low here tbh, other than literally. People are acting civilly, and as long as everyone manages to make it home at the end of the day to their families safely with their communities intact who cares how they choose to de-escalate or show solidarity with the protestors? Who knows, maybe even some of them also oppose police brutality and the murder of George Floyd.
Recently I discovered on twitter a campaign website called #8 Can't Wait, which is an advocacy group for evidence-based policy around reducing killings by police.
8 Can't Wait
#8CantWait is a campaign to bring immediate change to police departments. Tell your city to adopt these 8 policies now.
8cantwait.org
They have a white paper on the subject here. In addition to reducing #killings per arrests and per capita, they also appear to be correlated with less officers being assaulted or killed in the line of duty.
It's also discussed here:
DeRay Mckesson on the 8 Reforms That Could Dramatically Reduce Police Violence
Campaign Zero has a concrete, data-backed proposal for changing how police departments use force.
In a recent release, the NAACP has also come out with specific policy proposals:
-banning chokeholds and knee-holds
-permit public access to the misconduct and disciplinary records of officers
-deny recertification of credentials for officers if it is determined their use of deadly force was unwarranted by federal guidelines
-de-escalation training
NAACP calls for the end of chokeholds, other police tactics
Downtown Buffalo's protest Saturday night, like those in so many other cities across the nation and the world, was sparked by last week's death of George…
news.wbfo.org
There is some overlap, and it looks like some lawmakers are in the process of drafting something up to present to the US house of representatives for a hearing by mid-June.
Lawmakers react to crackdown on George Floyd protests
Majority Leader Mitch McConnell defends going after "violent rioters" but doesn't mention Trump by name. Democrats, including Chuck Schumer, condemn the crackdown.
If these policies do have the outcomes these advocates say they will, I hope support for this mounts. I also like that this is a set of specific demands that can be proposed, and passed, and concretely implemented with measurable outcomes. Could be worth spreading around social media, where it could at least serve as a lightnight rod for people's anger: channeling it productively.
Someone commented on this in a FB group on symbolism. They also mentioned the fires in Australia in the same vein. In ancient cultures the breath was synonymous with the Spirit (life was breathed into the first man and woman) so it could be connected to the lack of spirit in the world starting to manifest.
The last thing the country needs is more centralization and federalization. The governments are full of people lacking knowledge, lazy, stupid, or corrupt, so I want them to have less power, not more power. Federal guidelines would have us wear masks and get vaccines. No thank you.
Summits evidence George Floyd is alive. One thing she brings up is gasoline prices on sign behind the incident. I and others had that very same discussion....looking up prices. She also feels puctures of Chauvin are different. I do too...Anyway listen for yourselves
"Dr. Winnie Heartstrong Claims George Floyd is ALIVE and Video is Faked. History is the Conspiracy."
"Dr. Winnie Heartstrong Claims George Floyd is ALIVE and Video is Faked. History is the Conspiracy."
Oh, I definitely agree about the excesses of federal centralization... a part of me thinks that the NAACP, like most advocacy NGOs and corporations, just likes federal because that's just one body to lobby instead of 50. I think there should be more local (or state-wide) ways of increasing accountability for excessive use of force. One proposal I've heard were to have review boards for re-certification include members of the community in the process, sort of like a parent-teacher association of some kind? I'm sure you have some ideas of your own hlat. What might suit one county or community may not serve another, of course.
cholas
Dagobah Resident
A local take on this Sott article. Turns out this man went to college in our area. The comment section is pretty revealing as usual.
www.sott.net
District Attorney Declines to Charge Former HSU Student and Bar Owner Who Fatally Shot Protester in Omaha – Redheaded Blackbelt
I personally can't imagine taking another's life but from what I understand, it was legal.
Omaha Bar owner shot protester who was assaulting him, won't face charges
Leftists vow to burn bar down A bar owner shot a protester on Saturday night after the mob came for him and his business. The incident was caught on video. You can hear the person taking the video warning the people to stay back, shouting "This...
www.sott.net
District Attorney Declines to Charge Former HSU Student and Bar Owner Who Fatally Shot Protester in Omaha – Redheaded Blackbelt
I personally can't imagine taking another's life but from what I understand, it was legal.
Antifa normal? As in mean, median or mode? Nope, they are a noisy, manufactured, groomed, perhaps sizable, minority. They may be somewhat compairable to the hippies, with less starry-eyed idealists but more characterpaths.
I don't buy it, none of it. She starts off by saying that she's running for congress, then says that she's studied 'rhetoric' -- that she studied 'how to use words in reality toward your own advantage'. Well, I think she's exercising what she learned in her 'studies'.
There's nothing she says to try and prove that George Floyd is still alive that would convince me to even look into it.
Besides, why would I try to prove her wrong? Whether George Floyd is still alive or not, doesn't even matter, IMO. This whole thing really isn't about George Floyd. It's about people manifesting their anger and extreme frustration at something or someone that they're not even sure as to what or who. And they're all reacting in their own way, according to 'who' they really are.
I think this whole thing was inevitable. If it wasn't the killing of George Floyd that triggered this event, it would have been triggered by something else, and it probably wouldn't of taken much.
Yeap, there was a automovil march against AMLO last Saturday and Sunday in several cities, they did not wanted to be infected of coronavirus, so they said
But, it seems to me that there is/are forces to push the social discomfort and possibly more, found this story today:
One person was arrested because he did not wear a mask at Ixtlahuacan de los Membrillos in the state of Jalisco, México. When his relatives went to look for him the next day, they found out that he had died. Reports indicate that he was beaten to death.
In this article Jalisco: Albañil fue arrestado por no usar cubrebocas y murió al día siguiente in Spanish and, with the date of 3rd June - as well as other media sites- mentions that the Giovanni's brother gave an interview to an international MSM, in which it does not say whom, though.
So, the curious detail that happened on May 4th and, today it went viral, seems to me quite suspicious. Today, social media calling for justice, also a petition in change org and, the hashtag Justicia para Giovanni, being right now 1st in Top Twitter Trending worldwide and in México
Will see how it goes.
Martin Luther King, Jr. won people over with nonviolence.
kinginstitute.stanford.edu
Violence now is a trap and reveals who the bad actors are.
Nonviolence
Violence now is a trap and reveals who the bad actors are.
Somehow I just don't want to follow the news on this one too closely. Don't even want to log into social media... Perhaps it would be different if I was in the US, but at this point, it's kind of like "okay, whatever". It seems obvious what's going on, there isn't a lot to understand or study or observe... They are playing the race game, the media is hyperventilating, criminals and criminal minds are getting high on looting, white lefty idiots are sitting in their mansions celebrating the riots (wonder how they would react if the looters showed up on their front doors)....
I have the picture in my mind of a bunch of rats, of gutter creatures, from the looters right to the idiot "leaders" and the media minions. They live in the spiritual gutter. It's like a different planet altogether. It's as if the reality we (and many others) live in is barely connected to this "gutter world" anymore, both are hanging on a thin thread... What happens if this thread is cut once and for all? Will it be? Or do we have to witness this train wreck for another 10 years?
Maybe I'm just tired of it all, or lazy, or hiding from it, but right now, I'm just like... whatever.
I have the picture in my mind of a bunch of rats, of gutter creatures, from the looters right to the idiot "leaders" and the media minions. They live in the spiritual gutter. It's like a different planet altogether. It's as if the reality we (and many others) live in is barely connected to this "gutter world" anymore, both are hanging on a thin thread... What happens if this thread is cut once and for all? Will it be? Or do we have to witness this train wreck for another 10 years?
Maybe I'm just tired of it all, or lazy, or hiding from it, but right now, I'm just like... whatever.
Somehow I just don't want to follow the news on this one too closely. Don't even want to log into social media... Perhaps it would be different if I was in the US, but at this point, it's kind of like "okay, whatever". It seems obvious what's going on, there isn't a lot to understand or study or observe... They are playing the race game, the media is hyperventilating, criminals and criminal minds are getting high on looting, white lefty idiots are sitting in their mansions celebrating the riots (wonder how they would react if the looters showed up on their front doors)....
I have the picture in my mind of a bunch of rats, of gutter creatures, from the looters right to the idiot "leaders" and the media minions. They live in the spiritual gutter. It's like a different planet altogether. It's as if the reality we (and many others) live in is barely connected to this "gutter world" anymore, both are hanging on a thin thread... What happens if this thread is cut once and for all? Will it be? Or do we have to witness this train wreck for another 10 years?
Maybe I'm just tired of it all, or lazy, or hiding from it, but right now, I'm just like... whatever.
All those gutter rats are affecting good people. A young friend from Philadelphia messaged me a couple of nights ago. He, his mum and dad were scared. They debated leaving their home and decided to stay. Later that night the mob was 1 block away and helicopters were flying overhead. He and his parents were going to get guns the next day....his grandfather was a cop....so not an irresponsible bunch.
