George Green - Handbook for the New Paradigm

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moonwalker said:
It stands for You Create Your Own Reality it has come to be a derogatory comment within in this forum. Michael Topper wrote an article which can be found on this site called Why you don't create your own reality he explains that it is a fatouous paradigm that is currently running amok though the New Age community known as "You Create Your Own Reality" (short: YCYOR) and is (deliberately, I might add) creating a hell lot of confusion. YCYOR is a very misleading and tentative paradigm with a certain half-truth in it. However the C's said this:

Remember, most
all power necessary for altering reality and physicality
is contained within the belief center of the mind. This
is something you will understand more closely when you
reach 4th density reality where physicality is no longer a
prison, but is instead, your home, for you to alter as you
please. In your current state, you have the
misinterpretation of believing that reality is finite and
therein lies your difficulty with finite physical
existence.
Moonwalker has expressed this best when he said it has become a derogatory comment on this forum. The issue has NOT been analized in depth here, with a reference to the MT article as proof, lightly boiled, enough to be taken as a "gold" stamp that the concept is New Age BS by those who are looking for neat and easy answers.

If one bothers to read the actual treatise, it is easy to see that MT is targetting those that think that one can materialize "stuff" out of thin air, very much like the Robert Monroe episode where an "human" at one point, in "a" timeline, grabs a handful of dirt and manifest an ear of corn.

What he is saying, as far as I see, is that it isn't that easy, because of the lack of understanding of entanglement of the desire. I'll repeat this: it isn't that easy, i.e. you don't get the "automatic results as promised" BECAUSE of the lack of understanding of the entanglement of your specific desire. It isn't FREE. No free lunch. If you cannot see clearly how this will serve you, with in depth honesty, you aren't likely to get too far. Think you were honest, looked deep enough within, and still nothing happened? Look again. Is it a whim? Mt seems to say that it must not only fit your "profille" for growth, but your desire has "competition" in a closed energy system.

What is "entanglement"? Mt explains it a little, and that's where you see where you may not get an automatic response, and on the flip side, where you can actually get clear and try it out for yourself. (He does address the negative area where disaster befalls people. Did they "attract" this to themsleves? You'll read about the "Law of Allowance" and the "Law of Attraction". Both of these might be simplistic explanations of the "how", with some of the current science saying it may be possible. I still have a problem understanding people "attracting" hardship, but then again, if all there is, is lessons, then maybe it is for the good of those involved. Do they deserve it? Not from my point of view. But I'm watching and learning. I interfere regardless where my empathy kicks in.)


MT goes on in my interpretive view that it is NOT that it isn't POSSIBLE, but that in manifesting, or shall we say activating a Universal mechanism (that he does NOT deny exists), it is PARAMOUNT that one understands the WHAT and the WHY. *This* is the problem, or the obstacle, that would lead to one hearing of the possibility that the Universe works this way, tries it, and comes up short, and why a glib transmission that you can have everything you want is simplistic and can lead to dis-illusionement. This is what I think MT was specifically warning about. It is not about performing a magic trick, but understanding, 1) that it is possible, and 2) what you want in your interaction with reality as you UNDERSTAND it.

For what it's worth, I *have* seemingly manifested, clearly, and have received. Maybe it is simply a coincidence.

Cheers.
 
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Azur said:
For what it's worth, I *have* seemingly manifested, clearly, and have received. Maybe it is simply a coincidence.
Cheers.
Could you provide more details about the experience? You said that this cannot happen unless you know the how's and the why's, and if you do understand those aspects in as much precision and depth as is required by the universe before anything can even occur, why would you think it may be a coincidence? Unless you did it without having adequate understanding? You say seemingly and clearly in the same sentence so I'm confused, is it clearly what had occured, or is it only seemingly? If I focused on an empty space and 2 seconds later "poof" something appeared, I'd not call this a coincidence - unless things have a habit of appearing without me focusing, and so one just happened to appear while I happened to focus :P
 
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ScioAgapeOmnis said:
Could you provide more details about the experience? You said that this cannot happen unless you know the how's and the why's, and if you do understand those aspects in as much precision and depth as is required by the universe before anything can even occur, why would you think it may be a coincidence? Unless you did it without having adequate understanding? You say seemingly and clearly in the same sentence so I'm confused, is it clearly what had occured, or is it only seemingly? If I focused on an empty space and 2 seconds later "poof" something appeared, I'd not call this a coincidence - unless things have a habit of appearing without me focusing, and so one just happened to appear while I happened to focus :P
I'll clarify the the last sentence there, it is confusing, and poorly written. :-) What I intended to communicate was that I seemingly attracted what I was looking for after having a "clear" idea of what it was (to a relatively high degree of detail) and why I wanted it. I said that maybe it is a coincidence, because these things undoubtedly existed before I thought them up, and my finding them or "receiving" them might only really be that I could find a path to them.


I've tried twice to write a more in depth response to my experiences so far, and every time I do, more and more things occur to me, changing what I thought the moment before.


Also, in my original post, I realized that I should have been saying "attracted" instead of manifesting. There's a huge difference, once I thought about it, and what I really think is happening is the former. But I don't really know. If my thoughts are actually manifesting, i.e. things are created by my desire alone into physical space, then it would necessarily involve other people FROM THE PAST, i.e. the time I had the thought was after the chain of events that would be needed to lead to my experience.

One of my experiences came late last year, when I had it up to here with my job and I was pretty convinced that the whole industry was that way, and that I really should change to something else entirely. The point in time, I remember it clearly, that I decided "I quit!", I was sitting at my desk (I had discussed this with my other half for 3 weeks, but hadn't committed). So there I was I had quit (in my head) and was thinking what the heck do I do now? I don't even know what else is out there. Then I took inventory of all the things I was good at, what experience I had (which would most likely be the determining factor in getting another job) and admitted that the best likelihood of finding other work would be in this same industry, wishful thinking or not. But I had had enough. So I thought to myself: the only way I will take a job in this industry again is if 5 conditions are in place. I get paid same or better than now, I don't have to commute at all, I get to work on short term projects, with variable subject matter (within the scope of the job, of course), and that I work for a sane boss who knows more than most how to get people to be creative.


This, to say the least, was a tall order. But it was as clear as can be, I would accept nothing else, and would be willing to sell my house and live in a tent if I couldn't find work. I quit my job, the company gave me a short contract to help out them out a little more. A week after the contract ended, the phone rings. An old boss of mine heard that I was open. I said sure, he invited me over to discuss a position he had. Guess what? Not having said a word about what I was looking for, I let him talk, and he laid out the work, the terms and what would be expected and how much it paid. Everything on that list was covered. EVERYTHING. It took all that I had not to cry and laugh with joy while talking to him, I couldn't believe it.

People around me still can't believe I have this "dream" job. They think I'm joking, or am secretly out of work, and lying. :-) That's only one example, but I can describe 4 or 5 more that are this concrete, others are a little more in the gray zone.

So: coincidence or not? Could it be that when I was formulating what I wanted it was simply me "reading" ahead and "seeing" a written down future, or a high probability future? Or did the Universe, with the (unknowing) cooperation of others self assemble a situation AFTER I had a clear intent?

In every instance, I had a clear idea, and held on to it. Maybe this just focuses the mind into seeing what is already there? This I have seen speculated about elsewhere before (and even came across again today, although I have been thinking it for the last two days in trying to formulate a response, see http://www.cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=3213, page 131 of the e-book, I think). In the case for the job, I didn't *do* anything (except knowing what I would accept), didn't talk to people about looking for work (I actually was going to take a few months off). Somebody simply phoned me and handed it right to me. It is incredible.


One thing is certain: I'm not sure what the causal link is, but the mechanism (?) seems to work some of the times, for stuff that's within your reach. I've never tried clearly imagining that I'd be walking on the Moon. Now that would be a test. And I wouldn't bet the Farm on it.

Self-delusion? Luck? Simple coincidence? A Universal Law? (Is there an explanation for the "Law of Attraction" as showcased in the movie "The Secret" other than what they present it to be? Surely they speak from personal experience. Are they all bald-faced liars? Are they all delusional? Or scamming everyone? And how can anyone prove it?)



I'm going in circles, thinking and re-thinking, and rolling this over and over.


Appreciate any and all thoughts on this.
 
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Handbook is mind-blowing if you let belief run wild. My opinion is that it's the usual stuff: many truths, plenty of disinfo. Seems designed to frighten because, to me, it seems to really harp on the immense power and grip of the PTB.
 
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AdPop said:
Handbook is mind-blowing if you let belief run wild. My opinion is that it's the usual stuff: many truths, plenty of disinfo. Seems designed to frighten because, to me, it seems to really harp on the immense power and grip of the PTB.
I agree. I stopped about half-way through the second installment (with the intent of picking it up later when I got the intuitive nudge to do so, and the nudge so far has pointed me elsewhere in my large collection of unread tomes).

It was getting to be fear, fear, fear and look over your shoulder kinda stuff, the noose is closing, etc, etc.
 
any comments on "Handbook for the New Paradigm"?

Here is a video of George Green that I came across recently. It may shed more light on where he is coming from.

_http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=4250355609710916273&q=george+green

_http://youtube.com/watch?v=wOa9cBwW3Rg


He drops a lot of names and concepts and "facts" without much follow up on what the consequences could be, he just seems to let it "hang" there for people to draw their own conclusions.

One of his background elements includes working on "black" projects and craft for the Air Force, and claims to have seen alien craft parked on base (Edwards).
 
Scary Interview With George Green

George Green is a retired investment banker and was an adviser to Jimmy Carter. What he has to say in this July 16, 2008, interview is worthy of some consideration, osit.

_http://tinyurl.com/5kfhhx
 
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We can't listen/watch videos here because our bandwidth is expensive and restricted. Can you summarize the main points?
 
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Forgive any mistakes, I just typed this out quickly as I listened to the audio:

Telephone with George Green July 16th 2008 - 34 min  - Jul 18, 2008

* The Bank of International Settlements (Rothschilds) wants to audit the Federal Reserve
* The Bush Administration has said this is OK - but only once Bush it out of office
Implications:
- Banks will realise the USA has no money left
- Foreign Governments are no longer buying US bonds
- the FR are fronting $ 2 Billion / day to keep the economy afloat
* China will keep selling consumer goods to the US, but will not accept payment in US dollars
* Likewise, Germany is not accepting Euros from the other countries
* The Banks themselves in the US no longer trust each other
* Derivaties which have been funding the country, the worth of which are no longer being reported
* Lenders are not loaning to people who want money (collapsing real estate market)
* Lenders will not loan to those without liquidity (you must have ~20% down)
* Predicts a 50% loss in the subprime
* FDIC will not cover these losses (though Bush said that yes they are covered by the FDIC)
* When this happens - National Emergency, socialisation, etc.
* Speaker himself went himself to take out small bills, 5, 10s, what he could, as he has found banks are not letting some people do this.
* A Treaty that was signed said all Oil would be sold in US Dollars, however
- some countries are not doing this
* Says the market could go down 50% from today (as of the recording)
* All markets have had large deflations, which means people are trying to get their liquid (liquidity out of the stock market)
* People are being lulled into a false sense of security in the market

How do we contend with this? How to maneuver?
* Small window left
* If anyone has cash left, diversify in a basket of foreign currencies (as long as these banks/currencies last)

* huge fuel charges for cargo ships, impacting the profit margin and the cost of goods, and time spent offshore
* 13% inflation for the year (technically 5%)
* real inflation is the cost of when you go buy an apple at the grocery store, or get fuel, as these are not factored in to the real inflation rate, which he says will be 35-40% by the end of this year
* predicts gasoline in the US will be $5/gal
* mentions oil as the cause for israel/et-al to go after iran
* legal system is shot to pieces, what law states you really own that house?
* urging people to get gold / etc etc / junk silver ("junk metal") stronly suggests to get physical possession
* also urges to stock up on canned foods, staples, etc, basically things people can do commerce with, also because prices continue to increase

* people with large sums of money who keep it in banks as liquid, not to keep it as $US
* bank of nova scotia will not take american deposits
* money wires to foreign banks are all being audited - all tracked
* is a world meltdown, not just the US (see germany not wanting euros)
* bank of south america opened with a new currency, says it will be one of the safest areas (financially) as it is a large producer of commodities
* equador is making itself self-sufficient as a preventative measure
* Amero appears to be off the table, canada and mexico do not want because they do not see the purpose
* states design right now is to watch Kissinger and crew (WW3, population reduction)

* Again, The Bank of International Settlements (rothschilds) demanded an audit of the US banking system (federal reserve) - interesting as they are "partners" - and maybe they want to get out of the US dollar

* suggests moving to a local credit union, take a look at their statements, as they only loan to their own members

* deadline? September 30th is Fiscal year of the USA (leaves us, now, 50 days, more likely less than)
* suggests wants war started before this date, as this can suspend everything (national emergency)

Ok so conclusions are that which has been come to already (financial dooom, more war, etc). It does however remain speculative.
 
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Hi Devar. Thanks, good synopsis.

Given Green's background, connections and events over the past couple of weeks, I would certainly not dismiss his assessments out of hand, speculative though they may be. I thought his delivery was calm and measured.

Laura, can you download audio email attachments? I can rip this to an email or CD if you would like to hear it. Its about a 27 MB file.
 
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See John Hammell's information regarding this. It sounds scary to me. He may sound wacky to some, but if there is truth in this, then the people who did nothing will be regretting it if it comes to pass. _http://www.iahf.com
 
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Wow, this is all interesting stuff. Because not too long ago I ordered his books and have them all sitting in my book collection. I'm currently reading Handbook for the New Paradigm.

He talks about in the book about Law of Intent, Law of Attraction. How focused intent coupled with creativity will create change. Finding other's that are willing to listen to the "message" and such. How the adversarial forces are attempting to tighten the noose. I really thought this was potentially channelled information. There is even talk in the book about requesting for help from higher forces. Although he does speak of having to push us because time is of the essence and ignoring what is going on and focusing solely on change.

Francisco said:
From session 08-23-01

Q: (L) Okay, who is this "final incarnation" guy presented on Val Valerian's
website? Is it really somebody who is in his final incarnation as is claimed, is
it made up, or is it Val himself?
A: Val.
Q: (L) Is Val really in his "final incarnation?"
A: Best not to judge.
Q: (L) Is it a final incarnation of STS or STO?
A: STS.
Q: (L) So that is how a final incarnation of STS might think and the
teachings they might present?
A: Yes.
Q: (A) What is a final incarnation? (L) Somebody who is so spiritually
advanced that they don't need to incarnate anymore after this life. (A) And
what happens after? (L) Well, I don't know. I guess you go to 4th density.
(A) Oh. I see. (TB) Okay, George Green has dictated all these "Handbooks
for the New Paradigm." He claims that it comes from some entity. Who is
that entity?
A: George Green.
Q: (L) Well, these books are all over the place. Who is funding them?
A: Consortium.

If the above is true is there any link that will lead me to the topic that has the rest of this conversation with the C's so I can read if there is anything more on these books and their validity or lack there-of as true channelled information.
 
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DanielS said:
If the above is true is there any link that will lead me to the topic that has the rest of this conversation with the C's so I can read if there is anything more on these books and their validity or lack there-of as true channelled information.

Hi Daniel,

I don't know much about these books but you may find PopHistorian's threads on channeled material in the Channel Watch & New Age COINTELPRO forum (CHANNEL WATCH and more recently CHANNEL STATIC) to be of interest. It would be good to start at the first: CHANNEL WATCH 001 - Overview/History of Channeling and Disinformation It's a mess out there and PopHistorian has done an awesome job wading through it!
 
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You know, looking back in hindsight at Handbook for the New Paradigm, I can see where the disinformation and contradicting information comes into play. I guess you could say I was duped, because I really took a lot of the things he wrote in the book to heart, but ignored the aspects of the book that not only contradicted itself, but much of what I read on this website that made sense to me. So I'm going to add a few more points about this book.

No. 12 - "In the beginning phases, there must be no thoughts of boundaries. Remember that we are not to consider the actions or the reactions of the other side. We are going to be dreaming within little known possibilities; therefore all things are possible. The contingent plans of the other side can only work in their known reality. You are going to be setting up a reality that is far outside anything that they have even considered."

"The truth of the messages is to be discerned and used for the benefit of humanity first and then gleaned by the individual to apply personally as part of the wholeness to which it is focused without the neccessity of personal names to identify truth. If that is not understood, then the messages need to be read again to transcend this need into commitment to the holographic intention of the information they contain."
<-- (If the person who is reading this information can't apply it to themselves individually, then how can they possibly help others who are interested, apply to their own lives?)

No. 2 - "This is not an esoteric process for people who are looking to give lip service and stand on the sidelines and observe. This is for visionary realists that may never actually observe the extent of the work they do now until the very end."

No. 4 - "Learn from your successful political elections, which appeal to emotion before logic. What works for this instrument of the opposition with people can work for you also. The logical approach brings lots of rhetoric, but it is that which brings visualization and emotion that incites action.

No.6 - "When the picture of what has been carefully planned for them is repulsive enough to their imaginations, don't you think they will turn with enthusiasm to a vision that thrills them? Remember there will be those who choose otherwise."

No. 12 - "Will your group be responsible for the conception of the process of what needs to be accomplished to change this earthly dilemma? Why do you think so many "etheric" beings are present? We are here to help you with the unseen processes needed. Once the skeletal outline is in place, in a form that will bring the desired results, then you will not be able to imagine the activity that will take place, all focused toward a 'splendid moment of creation'."

No. 14 - "These comments are not to instill fear in you, but to give you the greatest possible understanding of the situation that is now in front of you, indeed upon your plates. You have no place to go except through this experience."
<-- (Wait a second, didnt he just say earlier that if we dont like what we see, we turn our heads and dream of a new experience? So what is it. Work our way through the experience, or if it's repulsive enough, turn our heads and dream in la-la land of something better thats far outside the reach of the opposing forces)

No. 19 - "What is flowing into your mass consciousness from the galaxy that surrounds you is of a natural expansive quality. It is received within the awareness and then follows its expansive nature and arrives exponentially outward into conscious awareness as dreams and sleep patterns that are not restful."

These are just some of the quotes that I took out of the book. They are confusing and contradicting in nature. Talking about "etheric" beings here to help us, and that we have to look forward, wait, ANTICIPATE, some great "moment of creation". To look away and dream about a new reality. How esoteric work is really lip service. It goes on and on. Not to mention

TRUST THE PLAN AND PAY NO ATTENTION TO THE DAY TO DAY DETAILS. THIS KNOWINGNESS WILL BE YOUR ROCK ON WHICH TO LEAN. YOUR TOUCHSTONE OF FAITH. Which was already mentioned earlier in the topic. He talks about present awareness and such, yet we aren't supposed to pay attention to the day-day details.
 
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