Gurdjieff and the question of the soul.
By this measure, those people in Iraq must be really bad. After all, they are stuck in the middle of a war, so they must deserve it, right? Those poor people in Gitmo who are tortured? The same? Sounds like this is a fancy way of 'creating your own reality'.Jeanne de Salzmann said:You will see that in life you receive exactly what you give. Your life is the mirror of what you are. It is in your image.
Well, we're probably in agreement here.Laura said:It is part of the tendency of those who continue to live in lies while lionizing themselves (or objects of narcissistic supply) to seek to diminish those who did follow that part of themselves that was great.
Do not misunderstand, we know that Gurdjieff was a man and he was not perfect. But he was such a man that there have been few like him before, then or since - almost none, in fact.
So, multiple children is a requirement of the path? That's a new one. Actually, I raised my four brothers and sisters, which is why I waited until 40 to have my son. I would have loved to have more, but I nearly died having this one, so , 'cest la vie'.Laura said:You mention that you have a son... an only child? You might have a bit more understanding of many things if you had numerous children, all of whom you love equally, and you needed to find ways to help them each grow and develop all the while taking into consideration their interactions with each other which are ruled by their ages, their intellect, their individual natures. A parent of many children who truly loves those children and doesn't have some narcissistic self-image of artifical moral perfection, quickly learns the "havey cavey" ways of assisting those children to develop and love one another without one harming or interfering with the other.
Gurdjieff had a quote in one of his books about "not even the Mother of God can understand"...I'll try to find this for a more complete reference. It'll take a while.Laura said:You see, you don't seem to have a real grasp of the Terror of the Situation. If you did, then you would completely understand why Gurdjieff did what he did on each and every occasion.
Well, I'm not messed up by my interactions here. Apparently my 'narcissistic' hide is too tough.Laura said:There are a few people who claim - quite loudly and repeatedly, in fact, that their encounters with me and QFS have "messed them up."