Ant22 said:
Hey 987baz, for me personally the books I read were tremendously helpful and I don't think I would have arrived at the conclusions I did without them. That's because on a conscious level I would not refer to these emotions as 'shame-based'. They are covered with so many buffers, narratives and who knows what else that it took proper neuroscientific and behavioural explanations of their origin and analysis of their manifestations for me to start seeing the wood from the trees.
Just to illustrate the extent of my own oblivion, the first book that dealt with shame I encountered was Fear of the Abyss: Healing the Wounds of Shame & Perfectionism by Aleta Edwards. I actually stopped reading after around 20% because I'm not much of a perfectionist and the whole shame thing just didn't seem to fit. That's generally speaking. Now I can see that the picture changes drastically when a situation involves people I care about. I am quite convinced I gave up on the book too quickly, mostly due to my own poor understanding of the concept at that time.
I'm about to finish Gabor Mate's Scattered, another book I initially approached without much conviction that it would be useful. It deals with ADD and hyperactivity and I'd say maybe 60% of the traits describe me. But when they apply they apply BIG time.
Since shame-based behaviours caught your attention it may in fact be useful to consider reading the book. Here's are a couple of excerpts that may give you an idea of Mate's take on this:
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If hyperactivity expresses anxiety, lethargy and underarousal expresses shame. Shame, like anxiety, is an attachment emotion. "Whenever someone becomes significant to us, whenever another's caring, respect or valuing matters, the possibility for generating shame emerges" (...). The origin of shame is the feeling of having been cut off from the parent, of having lost the connection, if only momentarily.
(...) Even the most benign parenting (...) involves some use of shaming procedures to influence behavior. (...) Shame becomes excessive if the parent's signalling of disapproval is overly strong, or if the parent does not move to re-establish warm emotional contact with the child immediately - what Gershen Kaufman calls "restoring the interpersonal bridge". Chronic stress experienced by the parent has the effect of breaking that bridge. The small child does not have a large store of insight for interpreting the parent's moods and facial expressions: they either invite contact or forbid it. When the parent is distracted or withdrawn, the older infant or toddler experiences shame. Shame postures are observed in infants in response to nothing more than the parent breaking eye contact. The demeanor of the infants of depressed mothers is one of inactivity and averted gaze.
(...) Some parents are able to express anger without making the child cut off emotionally. They convey disapproval without rejection.Other parents, especially those with self-regulation problems of their own, may react with open or choked rage, punishing coldness or dejected withdrawal that signals defeat and disappointment. (...) Each time this happens, shame is evoked in the child, especially as the parent usually believes - and makes the child believe - that whatever his (the parent's) reaction is, the child is responsible for it.
(...) Like its opposite number, hyperactivity, shame began as a normal physiological state that escaped the regulation by the cortex. It become wound tightly into the self-identity of the individual.
Later in life a person experiences shame whenever they feel rejected and some aspects of that perceived rejection reminded me of Samenow's concept of "put down". There's an entire chapter on counterwill (linked to sense of rejection and shame) that seems to be similar to the criminal's responses to perceived put down. What made me build this link is the fact that I could personally relate to both Samenow's put down and the concept of counterwill quite well.
Mate links the origins of ADD and shame to early stages of infant development and deficits in the attachment and attunement process. The below fragment sheds more light on shame experienced by an infant when the mother breaks eye contact:
Attunement is necessary for the normal development of the brain pathways and neurochemical apparatus of attention and emotional self-regulation. It is a finely calibrated process requiring that the parent remain herself in a relatively nonstressed, nonanxious, nondepressed state of mind. Its clearest expression is the rapturous mutual gaze infant and mother direct at each locked in a private and special emotional realm, from which, at that moment, the rest of the world is completely excluded as from the womb. (...) Infants, particularly sensitive infants, intuit the difference between a parent's real psychological states and her attempts to soothe and protect the infant by means of feigned emotional expressions.
Mate also says that the child feels rejected and experiences shame not only when the parent openly displays rejecting behaviours but also when the parent
pretends everything is fine when interacting with the child. That pretending is interpreted as rejection by the child because, although present, the parent is emotionally unavailable to them due to stress, depression, worries or other factors that preoccupy the parent's attention and divert it from the child.
The next book that I referred to in my previous post, and which described the origin of shame-based behaviours (among other things) is
The Fear of Intimacy by Robert W. Firestone. The overlap between the above excerpts from
Scattered and this book is the internalisation of the parent's rejecting behaviours Firestone describes. It would jeopardise the child's survival if the child openly disagreed with the parent's attitude so internally agreeing with the parent's reasons for rejection is in fact a coping mechanism the child adopted in order to continue to receive support and nurturing from the parent. Except that this mechanism continues to function well into adulthood and this is what
The Fear of Intimacy focuses on.
Unfortunately I don't have my kindle with me at work so I won't be able to quote relevant fragments.
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Thanks Ant22,
I have Fear of the Abyss on my kindle, like you I think I read about 20% of it or so and that's about as far as I got, I will get back to it once I am done with this and the other books from the reading list.
I haven't read Scattered, only When the Body Says No, by Mate, ADD is not something that I have had to deal with, but it sounds like it may be more than just that, so I will add it to the reading list as well!
The Fear of Intimacy, also sounds like it could be worth a read, again I will add it to the list.
It's interesting to me that I never thought I suffered from shame-based behaviour, but the more I read about it, maybe this is something subconscious that I haven't been able to articulate and understand about myself.
I'm sure many of us can see ourselves in the various survival styles. It is stunning how deep the false personality can run, and equally as stunning how fixing underlying physiological issues can result in a fundamental change in cognition. These are the various shame and pride-based adaptations, each of which clearly color the way we see the world and thus behave in it; examples of the 'criminal mind' manifesting.
The survival styles mentioned in the book are indeed confronting, but also liberating, for at least when you see yourself in these, there seems to be something you can do about it, which is the exciting part!