Health Protocol for Mandatory Coronavirus Vaccination

Someone mentioned in the sessions thread a German source for this "nattokinase is bad" and this source just happens to sell something allegedly better, without giving any research to back their statements. :rolleyes:
 
So if one has proteins such as amyloid beta already, which have a high affinity for S1, and nattokinase can degrade S protein, it's possible this can be released back into body. As far as I know, there is nothing showing that nattokinase can do anything against amyloid beta.
Thank you for clarifying @fabric. I missed the video completely. However what you're saying is indeed interesting, hopefully more studies will be done.

I have not bought any nattokinase yet as it's expensive and I've been researching so I don't waste money. I had a severe case of covid early 2020. Not long after I developed xanthelasma around my eyes, which are cholesterol deposits. They appeared quite soon after I had covid so I thought somehow it must be related. My diet and exercise routine had not changed and I'd had blood tests done in 2019 and lipids were normal.

This Time article called COVID-19 Can Cause New Cholesterol Problems. What to Know states
“What we found was a very clear signal that people who had had COVID-19 had a higher risk of cholesterol problems that included higher LDL, higher total cholesterol, higher triglycerides, and lower levels of so-called good cholesterol,” he says. “And these were all new events, meaning they were showing up in people who had no history of cholesterol problems.”

One of the theories in the article is interesting
“Another hypothesis,” he says, “is that the virus might persist in the body—not the full live virus but fragments of it—and this could cause low-grade chronic inflammation that could disturb the regular metabolic machinery.” In this scenario, he says the virus might not be detectable with standard tests, and yet the pieces of the virus that remain could create “a chronic-stress kind of situation” where the body hoards calories and converts those into lipids. This could lead to high cholesterol, high triglycerides, and the other metabolic complications his study turned up. Here again, some research on Long COVID (and other types of post-viral syndromes) has found that even after all live and infectious parts of a virus are cleared, fragments of viral genes may continue to influence the body’s metabolism or immune functioning in ways that could cause ongoing health problems, including high cholesterol.

The only other lingering issue I have since I had covid is some difficulty doing strenuous exercise, where I sometimes get light headed and nauseous with a feeling that I can't get enough oxygen, only happens when I do cardio or walk up a steep hill. The xanthelasma are just a cosmetic issue but my major concern has been what damage did covid do internally that I can't see? I've lost 10 kgs since the xanth appeared due to me cutting out a lot of fat, increasing exercise, taking up smoking tobacco, introducing lots of supplements but the xanth have not reduced in size, meaning any damage done by covid internally may still be there too.

Nattokinase just seems to tick so many boxes, it's anti-inflammatory, reduces blood-clotting and the build up of plaque in the arteries and more. So I'm going to go for it and order some.
 
Just a reminder about cholesterol:
xanthelesma is indeed a deposit with cholesterol in it. But there is no relation with cholesterol in blood.
Most important is the quality of fat that one eats, and on processed food (too much sugar , and of poor quality in western diet)


About nattokinase being hard to find, I wonder if fermenting soja beans can be an alternative?
 
Just a reminder about cholesterol:
xanthelesma is indeed a deposit with cholesterol in it. But there is no relation with cholesterol in blood.
Most important is the quality of fat that one eats, and on processed food (too much sugar , and of poor quality in western diet)
Prior to covid I did not have high cholesterol. The hypothesis is that covid caused a severe inflammatory response which raised the cholesterol. My diet at the time was based on the paleo diet not the typical western diet by any means. My boyfriend was eating the exact same diet as me but he only got a headache, none of the severe covid symptoms I had. Different genetics react differently to covid. I only reduced fat for a period of time because the xanth were growing exponentially and I grew desperate to stop the growth because no other avenues were helping.
 
Okay.
Maybe clay poultice could help, on closed eyes, with thick (2 cm) layer of clay (green or bentonite) on the upper half of the face , covered with wet bandage, overnight. Again, a new poultice every night during at least one month. Clay is efficient in nearly all types of skin issues. It's worth trying. It's easy to remove and doesn't stick to eyelashes when wet.
 
Okay.
Maybe clay poultice could help, on closed eyes, with thick (2 cm) layer of clay (green or bentonite) on the upper half of the face , covered with wet bandage, overnight. Again, a new poultice every night during at least one month. Clay is efficient in nearly all types of skin issues. It's worth trying. It's easy to remove and doesn't stick to eyelashes when wet.
interesting discussion thread I came across on xanthelesma heres the link its quite a long thread over a few years


here is a more recent update Xanthelasma update mentioning TCA which is Trichloroacetic acid: Trichloroacetic acid - Wikipedia available in a Wartner’s Gel Pen. You can buy it on Amazon.

hope this might be of some help !

regarding Green Clay - I took some french green clay paste to my mum today ,who had a fall and had several nasty bruises -its great to apply for bruises as well ! Ready for use green clay tube
 
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Nattokinase just seems to tick so many boxes, it's anti-inflammatory, reduces blood-clotting and the build up of plaque in the arteries and more. So I'm going to go for it and order some.
Candice,

I was in the same boat as you are currently, financial consideration yet concern (dread really) for clotting and inflammation. I went with Nattokinase about 6 weeks ago and only have had positive results. I have alot of the same symptoms as yourself and then some, but in order to build up my strength I wanted to feel like I wasn't going to fall over dead due to a clot. I don't worry about that so much anymore since starting taking Nattokinase. My doctors/PA's all have been impressed with certain measurements such as blood pressure after I started. And I tell them what I am taking, and no one has given me the stink eye like they did when I brought it up a year ago. I am still weak in strength, and weird things keep popping up but I deal with those as they show up. The warm-fuzzy feeling my blood/circulatory system is not out to get me has been the highlight of my summer thus far and next step is to start rebuilding my strength, especially in hands, forearms and lower back which degraded far more than 'normal' getting old symptoms.
 
The only other lingering issue I have since I had covid is some difficulty doing strenuous exercise, where I sometimes get light headed and nauseous with a feeling that I can't get enough oxygen, only happens when I do cardio or walk up a steep hill.

FWIW, I have a very similar problem, except it’s not so bad when I walk, but it’s absolutely terrible when I have to do heavy lifting. I end up with nausea and fatigue which wipes me out for many hours after.

I’ve started on the nattokinase, CoQ10 and Tru NAD+ Booster, together with selenium, zinc, VitC, Glutathione, hydroxychloroquine, B vits and Hawthorne tincture. Hope my body gets the message and my energy production system improves.

As a side note. Having suffered from a lot of back and hip pain over the years, I find that hydroxychloroquine seems to help with it a lot. If I take everything else but not the hydroxychloroquine, the pain builds as normal over the day.
 
I'm not trying to be problematic, but there's magnesium stearate in there. Are you concerned about this or am I making a mountain out of a mole hill? I ask this because this week I went through all our supplements and threw out a lot of stuff. I'm busy finding replacements.
It's so difficult to find micronutrients without additives.
I agree with you that magnesium stearate is to be avoided, as stearate is a product that binds various vitamines and minerals, it's just used as a filler/paste to product a white conglomerate i.e a pill. Even the magnesium in it is not absorbed by the gut.
This is one of the reasons why most vitamins sold on the market or internet, are so poorly efficient. But one can hope the efficiency of placebo effect when one reads "vitamine" or "magnesium" or "healthy" etc... on the package.
 
For those who haven't bought anything yet, but are planning on doing it, I found these two products on Sunday Natural that regroup a lot of supplements listed by Gaby in the Covid protocol: Coffret Mito Support Ultra + Recovery

The website appears to be only in French, so here is the translation:
The Mito set combines the two innovative Mito Support Ultra Anti-Fatigue complexes in capsule form with the Mito Recovery complex in powder form to provide a basic supply. Developed with nutrient expert Dr. Alina Lessenich, a specialist in Covid long, post-vaccination syndrome and mitochondriopathy/chronic diseases. With selected, carefully balanced ingredients, such as magnesium, vitamins B1, B2, B3 & B12, to support energy metabolism and reduce fatigue and exhaustion. Value pack 90 capsules + 329.7 g powder
Boxed set of Mito Support Ultra capsules & Mito Recovery powder
Mito Support Ultra Complex: an innovative, restorative functional blend
With vitamins B1, B2, B3 & B12 to support energy metabolism and reduce fatigue and exhaustion
With vitamins B2, C & E, copper, manganese, selenium & zinc to protect cells against oxidative stress
Integrated in a rich matrix of carefully dosed ingredients, such as quercetin, glutathione, L-carnosine, green tea extract, taxifolin and many others
Contains the valuable coenzymes Q10 and NADH as well as the active substance PQQ in the form of original MGCPQQ® with Novel Food approval
Mito Recovery Complex: Regenerating nutrient blend
With three selected forms of magnesium (ascorbate, malate and magnesium citrate malate) to support energy-producing metabolism and reduce fatigue and exhaustion
With complementary vitamin C, amino acids and peptides: carnitine, creatine, NAC, taurine and AAKG
Also contains the functional sugars D-ribose and D-galactose
FWIW :-)
 
For those who haven't bought anything yet, but are planning on doing it, I found these two products on Sunday Natural that regroup a lot of supplements listed by Gaby in the Covid protocol: Coffret Mito Support Ultra + Recovery

FWIW :-)

Thanks for that, ryu. It sounds good, but let's see what others say. There's by the way also a German version of it.
 
Just to be clear, the protocol we should do is the one with several heart and protective supplements from the May session? (Nattokinase, Bromelain, Hawthorne, Carnitine , CoQ10, Fish oil, Quercetin.) And maybe Folate and Ivermectin if you have it?

Versus the original protocol by Keyhole which was for if you had to get the vaccine (about 19 supplements):


I went ahead and quickly bought the session mentioned supplements, but it was before the caution about fillers. I recall many years ago we were worried about magnesium stearate and things like that, but it seemed the consensus was that the risk is worth the benefit of the supplements. So I didn't really worry fillers. But now since it's been maybe 10-15 years since I've taken supplements, I wonder if I should slowly find replacements. Or at least don't buy more with fillers.

In any event, there's a heatwave in the US, so I will wait a few days for it to cool down. I got the Cod Liver oil at a health store so it should be good.
 
A: Shedding from others.

Q: (L) So, even if you don't take it, you can get the effects of it from the shedding?

A: All should undertake antivax protocol of some sort including heart support.

Q: (Gaby) Like hawthorn berry.

(Joe) CoQ10, hawthorn berry.

(L) Several different things, like nattokinase that keep your blood clean.

(Gaby) Plasmalogens.

(L) And help your heart.

(Andromeda) CoQ10, L-carnitine, fish oil, NAC.

(L) Yeah.

seek10) How often should we do that protocol?

A: Every day for at least 6 months

I found out that there’s different types of L-Carnitine. And I ordered L-carnitine fumarate.

Different Types​

There are several different forms of carnitine available. Here are a few of the most common types:

  • Acetyl-L-carnitine: This type of carnitine is thought to benefit brain health and memory, as shown in animal studies, and has been processed so that it’s able to easily pass the blood-brain barrier.
  • D-carnitine: Also known as the inactive form of carnitine, supplementing with this form can actually cause a carnitine deficiency by blocking the absorption of other active forms, according research on rats.
  • L-carnitine L-tartrate: This type is often found in sports supplements, thanks to its ability to reduce muscle soreness and boost physical performance.
  • Propionyl-L-carnitine: This form helps increase levels of nitric oxide in the body, which dilates the blood vessels to promote better blood flow.
  • L-carnitine fumarate: Preliminary research suggests that this type of carnitine could help support bone health to protect against age-related bone loss.

L-carnitine fumarate benefits​

L-Carnitine Fumarate is a dietary supplement that has been shown to have several benefits for the body. Some of the key benefits include:
  • Promotes oxygenation of heart muscle: Studies have demonstrated that L-Carnitine Fumarate can help promote oxygenation of the heart muscle, which can improve cardiovascular health.
  • Supports cardiovascular energy: L-Carnitine Fumarate has been shown to support cardiovascular energy by facilitating the transport of fatty acids into the mitochondria, where they can be used for energy production.
  • Enhances endurance training: L-Carnitine Fumarate has been shown to enhance endurance training by increasing the body’s ability to use fat as a source of energy.
  • Maintains healthy lipid metabolism: L-Carnitine Fumarate has been shown to help maintain healthy lipid metabolism by reducing the production of triglycerides and increasing the production of high-density lipoprotein (HDL) cholesterol.
  • Moderates cardiac lactate levels: L-Carnitine Fumarate has been shown to moderate cardiac lactate levels in laboratory animals, which can help improve cardiovascular health.
  • Supports cellular energy in tissues with high metabolic demands: L-Carnitine Fumarate has been shown to support cellular energy in tissues with high metabolic demands, such as the heart and skeletal muscle.
Overall, L-Carnitine Fumarate is a dietary supplement that has been shown to have a range of benefits for cardiovascular health, endurance, and overall energy production.
 
I found out that there’s different types of L-Carnitine. And I ordered L-carnitine fumarate.
Thanks for this. I've been searching in Europe for L-carnitine and not sure if a mix of the various carnitines would be optimal or should one just go for the fumarate version - any thoughts peeps?

This version of seemingly pure L-carnitine fumarate is on Amazon Germany and seems a bit expensive:

Pure Encapsulations - CoQ10 L-Carnitine Furmat - 60 Capsules https://amzn.eu/d/0ant9xzP

1758mg L-carnitine fumarate.
62€ for 60 capsules

Ingredients: L-carnitine fumarate, capsule: hydroxypropyl methylcellulose, coenzyme Q10, filler: microcrystalline cellulose

Another question: L-arginine has been used in the past and I have quite a bit left - would this be a useful addition to the heart health protocol?
 
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