Hillary Clinton Has Re-Surfaced

Interesting tweet from David Shuster:

David Shuster ‏@DavidShuster 2h2 hours ago

Clarification from dem operatives @HillaryClinton pneumonia: Expect emergency DNC meeting to CONSIDER replacement. #HillarysHealth
 
Clearly illery wasn't just 'overheated' and this wasn't a mere fainting episode. She was propped up on a pillar so it looked like something ongoing, and when it can time to move her it looked like she was convulsing or something.

Laura said:
Ya know, I wonder if the concentrated hatred of masses of people directed at individuals, psychopathic or not, can "kill" them, so to say? Maybe the PTB made a mistake coming out of the closet and making their plans and characters so evident?

It's an interesting thought. We see celebrities break down from the 'celebrity gossip' trash all the time, so why not politicians. In this case, it would be well deserved. U.S. presidents wear down rapidly, and she's already been in the spotlight for a long time.

We also don't see as many female psychopaths in visible positions of power as we do with male psychopaths, so when that happens maybe there is a stronger clash, disruption or something when great evil is channeled through female dna?
 
Renaissance said:
Laura said:
Ya know, I wonder if the concentrated hatred of masses of people directed at individuals, psychopathic or not, can "kill" them, so to say? Maybe the PTB made a mistake coming out of the closet and making their plans and characters so evident?

It's an interesting thought. We see celebrities break down from the 'celebrity gossip' trash all the time, so why not politicians. In this case, it would be well deserved. U.S. presidents wear down rapidly, and she's already been in the spotlight for a long time.

I think this has a high probability of being true. It's pretty much a direct implication to be gleaned from psi research. Directed negative attention, whether done so consciously or unconsciously (i.e., just negative sentiment overall) could have a psychokinetic effect on the person in question. Guess that's why psychos need to maintain their mask of sanity. They really want to take it off, but they do so at their own peril. OSIT!

To go biblical, Paul mentioned a couple times about people basically being given over to the destruction of the flesh because of their transgressions... Maybe this is the mechanism, at least in part?
 
Laura said:
Ya know, I wonder if the concentrated hatred of masses of people directed at individuals, psychopathic or not, can "kill" them, so to say? Maybe the PTB made a mistake coming out of the closet and making their plans and characters so evident?

If that is the case I am happy to contribute.
 
bjorn said:
Laura said:
Ya know, I wonder if the concentrated hatred of masses of people directed at individuals, psychopathic or not, can "kill" them, so to say? Maybe the PTB made a mistake coming out of the closet and making their plans and characters so evident?

If that is the case I am happy to contribute.

Me too.

I think that the Killary peeps are delusional when they claim she has so much support. She has support from warmongers, but the masses of regular people have detested her for years. I think a lot of women detest her for sticking with Bill who showed himself to be such a slimeball. Anybody with brains or conscience saw through her on the "We came, we saw, he died" business.

In short, I don't believe the polls. I think she is well and truly hated/detested more than anything else. And so is Bill.

I think that it was decided to run Trump against her to give her a chance to win because ANY other choice of a political person would have defeated her. So, they put up a "straw man" non politician who is known to act like a jerk. Notice that Trump didn't even seem to be taking the campaign seriously at the beginning, just mouthing off to be a foil for Hillary. Then, suddenly, he got the idea that this might actually work and changed tactics.

Now, on top of Hillary being a woman (nobody really wants a woman president), she is a SICK woman. And Trump IS popular with a lot of un-thinking common peeps. The dems are gonna have to do some serious thinking ... I just can't see whoever is behind this ridiculous propping up of a dying woman thinking that the game can continue.

The whole situation is so bizarre, so utterly farcical I can hardly wrap my head around it.
 
Are we seeing 2 hillarys? I have the impression that the Hillary that was leaving the apartment is not the same that the Hillary that enters the van after the 9/11 show. She looks maybe younger and if she received many drugs would she be able to walk alone, without any kind of help? We know that doubles exists and maybe we are seeing a double here, or maybe the double is the Hillary that almost fall and loosed her shoe. I don't understand the picture of the shoe. Did she loosed her shoe on the street? Did they forget to pick up her shoe? Strange. Or did they forget to pick up her shoe on purpose?
 
JEEP said:
Saw this at one of the links previously referenced:

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Donald J. Trump 2016 ‏@TrumpWhiteHouse 7h7 hours ago

@FoxNews @HillaryClinton She won't make it to November! She is literally unfit to lead, mentally and physically!
#SickHillary
60 retweets 142 likes

Maybe a Trump person filmed Killary's assisted leg buckling entry into her van - wouldn't his people want to be around to document anything negative re her especially if they knew she was leaving prematurely?

Can you post the source link? I can't find Trump saying anything to that extent...
 
Renaissance said:
Clearly illery wasn't just 'overheated' and this wasn't a mere fainting episode. She was propped up on a pillar so it looked like something ongoing, and when it can time to move her it looked like she was convulsing or something.

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Indeed. A fainting epsiode due to "overheating" doesn't seem to explain her stiffness when she was dragged into the car. Take a look at her head, when she was pulled into the car: It was stiff and not wobbling, as you would expect someone that faints... It looks like she had a episode where her muscles cramped up.

That doesn't look like fainting at all, but instead a cramp or spasm like episode related to a much more serious condition then just merley a "pneumonia" episode.
 
angelburst29 said:
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Hillary Dragged Into Van After Fainting: Can Bernie or Biden Replace Her? Yes
https://sputniknews.com/politics/20160911/1045201044/hillary-clinton-collapse-bernie-biden.html

Hillary Clinton nearly collapsed on Sunday morning abruptly being swept away from a Ground Zero ceremony to commemorate the 15th anniversary of 9/11 with a half dozen staffers holding her up to prevent her from slamming head first into the pavement as she was dragged into a black van.

The video, posted on Twitter, shows the former Secretary of State wobbling back and forth almost uncontrollably reminiscent of the notorious seizure footage in which Hillary Clinton suffered uncontrolled spasms for 30 seconds in front of a pool of press reporters, leading to a horrified look on one AP journalist’s face, before regaining her wits and being shuffled off by staffers – an incident that has gone viral, but went unreported at the time.

Failing to stay on two feet at the 9/11 memorial service will be hard for the Clinton campaign to downplay coming at a time when Democrats are already clamoring for Bernie Sanders to come back into the fold after Hillary’s statements to wealthy donors discarding millions of Americans as “irredeemable” and what she calls a "basket of deplorables" highlighting what her opponents say is her elitist views.

It now raises the question whether Democrats have a Plan B should Clinton be unable to fulfill her campaign duties with Hillary’s running mate Tim Kaine likely lacking the star power necessary to fend off the insurgent bid of bombastic billionaire Donald Trump. Many Americans are also left to ask whether a vote for Hillary Clinton may ultimately be a decision to make the relatively unknown Kaine the nation’s Commander-in-Chief.

Highlighting the chaos in Democratic Party circles is a statement by Bakari Sellers, a Hillary Clinton surrogate and CNN political contributor who openly said "Does she need to prove more [medical records]? That is a legitimate question to ask."

Political reporter for Time Magazine reports that the former Secretary of State will be temporarily removing herself from the campaign trail in light of the most recent incident and returning home to Chappaqua after being rushed to her daughter Chelsea’s apartment following the incident.

Although Clinton emerged saying that she "feels great" and her campaign has gone into damage control mode suggesting that the incident was merely a bout of dehydration, Hillary may soon be fending off calls by her own party to drop out of the race leaving the door wide open for either Bernie Sanders or Joe Biden to replace her.

Democratic Party bylaws stipulate that in the event that a presidential nominee drops out due to health related or other reasons, a special meeting would be called by the chairperson to find a proper replacement. It is also possible that Congress could move to delay Election Day in the event that the decision occurs too close to November 8.

To date, a nominee for a major party has never withdrawn or died prior to an American election with the closest historical corollary being Vice President James Sherman who died of kidney disease six days before the 1912 election – his name remained on the ballot and the election proceeded. Watching the video below, it is hard to know whether or not the Democratic nominee may be the first to bow out in history.

(Note: Replacement or will Obama call off elections and remain in Office?)

The Bernie bit in the article above seems to be a speculation from the author of the article from sputnik. Bernie is not in the party anymore and I don't think he can and will replace her unless he comes back to the party. I don't think the PTB want that. The mentioning of this:

Democratic Party bylaws stipulate that in the event that a presidential nominee drops out due to health related or other reasons, a special meeting would be called by the chairperson to find a proper replacement. It is also possible that Congress could move to delay Election Day in the event that the decision occurs too close to November 8.

is interesting, since it indeed suggest that they might plan to replace her with somebody else from the party, before the election. My guess is Biden or something like that. And yes, in that case, a delay of the voting day is likely. I don't think Obama will and can run again. To many people are against him, it would be too obvious and contra productive for the PTB. And yes Taimer doesn't seem to be that popular or "psychopathic enough", so it could be that the PTB don't want him, so Killary must go before she gets elected.
 
Hillary Clinton Just Became Unelectable

http://russia-insider.com/en/politics/hillary-clinton-just-became-unelectable/ri16385

"When a would-be Commander-in-Chief withers – literally – in front of our most emotional reminder of an attack on the homeland, we feel unsafe. And safety is our first priority."

Originally appeared at Scott Adams' Blog

http://blog.dilbert.com/post/150264994381/the-race-for-president-is-probably-over

Adams has been spot on about the campaign for months now, one of the most intelligent observers out there. This has huge implications for Russia.

These incredible videos of her being hauled / dragged into a waiting van are shocking.

http://russia-insider.com/en/hillary-finished-video-shows-clinton-being-dragged-van-after-overheating/ri16384

The Race for President is (Probably) Over

If you are following breaking news, Hillary Clinton abruptly left the 9-11 memorial today because she was reportedly “overheated.” Her campaign says she is fine now.

You probably wonder if the “overheated” explanation is true – and a non-issue as reported – or an indication of a larger medical condition. I’m blogging to tell you it doesn’t matter. The result is the same.

Here’s why.

If humans were rational creatures, the time and place of Clinton’s “overheating” wouldn’t matter at all. But when it comes to American psychology, there is no more powerful symbol of terrorism and fear than 9-11 . When a would-be Commander-in-Chief withers – literally – in front of our most emotional reminder of an attack on the homeland, we feel unsafe. And safety is our first priority.

Hillary Clinton just became unelectable.

The mainstream media might not interpret today’s events as a big deal. After all, it was only a little episode of overheating. And they will continue covering the play-by-play action until election day. But unless Trump actually does shoot someone on 5th Avenue, he’s running unopposed.
 
Pashalis said:
Renaissance said:
Clearly illery wasn't just 'overheated' and this wasn't a mere fainting episode. She was propped up on a pillar so it looked like something ongoing, and when it can time to move her it looked like she was convulsing or something.

[...]

Indeed. A fainting epsiode due to "overheating" doesn't seem to explain her stiffness when she was dragged into the car. Take a look at her head, when she was pulled into the car: It was stiff and not wobbling, as you would expect someone that faints... It looks like she had a episode where her muscles cramped up.

That doesn't look like fainting at all, but instead a cramp or spasm like episode related to a much more serious condition then just merley a "pneumonia" episode.

No, it was definitely not pneumonia. I don't think I've ever seen anything quite like it. It was sort of like a seizure. It's not like Parkinson's, either.

As for the reappearance outside, it doesn't have to be a double, it could have been Hillary pumped up with drugs that have a temporary effect. But I think that such drugs only contribute to more rapid overall deterioration. What is clear is that she is a very, very sick woman and I don't think she's long for this world.
 
In regards to this:

JEEP said:
Interesting that her doctor says he diagnosed her pneumonia on Friday - that would account for her looking unwell when she arrived for the 911 memorial.

BTW - did Killary not get the pneumonia vaccine that's being aggressively promoted for older people?

In regards to a possible look-alike substitute, it should be noted that Jim Fetzer did quite a spiel on his assertions that Paul McCartney died in a car crash early on in the Beatle's career & was replaced by a look-alike. George Harrison was recorded referring to this guy as Faul - fake Paul. Fetzer was over-the-top on this issue & along w/ another brouhaha, was banished from VT along w/ everything he had published on the site.

So, if there is another fake Killary in the wings, you wonder at what point she'll be sent in - and maybe the real Killary euthanized.

Another thought in viewing Killary's jerky movements as she started her advance towards the van, it made me think of a zombie - a reanimated corpse. And as we all know, there's been an overabundance of everything zombie for quite a while esp zombie apocalypse.

Yeah, who knows what other bizarre things will occur in the runup to the election.

and this:

loreta said:
Are we seeing 2 hillarys? I have the impression that the Hillary that was leaving the apartment is not the same that the Hillary that enters the van after the 9/11 show. She looks maybe younger and if she received many drugs would she be able to walk alone, without any kind of help? We know that doubles exists and maybe we are seeing a double here, or maybe the double is the Hillary that almost fall and loosed her shoe. I don't understand the picture of the shoe. Did she loosed her shoe on the street? Did they forget to pick up her shoe? Strange. Or did they forget to pick up her shoe on purpose?

I think this another attempt to muddy the waters and proclaim that "actors are at work". The information so far clearly shows that Killary seems to be sick and the video is real. No need for another "actors" distraction...
 
loreta said:
Are we seeing 2 hillarys? I have the impression that the Hillary that was leaving the apartment is not the same that the Hillary that enters the van after the 9/11 show. She looks maybe younger and if she received many drugs would she be able to walk alone, without any kind of help? We know that doubles exists and maybe we are seeing a double here, or maybe the double is the Hillary that almost fall and loosed her shoe. I don't understand the picture of the shoe. Did she loosed her shoe on the street? Did they forget to pick up her shoe? Strange. Or did they forget to pick up her shoe on purpose?

The first pic. gave that same impression.

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http://www.michigansthumb.com/news/politics/article/Clinton-campaign-says-she-left-9-11-event-feeling-9215807.php#photo-10908124

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I would not say she's clutching her chest but, the placement of the right hand over the area of the body may indicate shortness of breath, and perhaps (conjecture) a heart related (palpitations http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/heart-palpitations/basics/symptoms/con-20034780), condition?
https://twitter.com/zgazda66

BREAKING : More Details Emerge on Hillary’s Catastrophic 9/11 Health Disaster as CNN, MSNBC Remain SILENT
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http://truthfeed.com/breaking-more-details-emerge-on-hillarys-catastrophic-911-health-disaster-as-cnn-msnbc-remain-silent/22928/
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According to The Post, it is unusual for Secret Service agents to allow a subject to wait for a car to arrive, as Clinton did while standing on a curb on Sunday.

It's also unusual for the leader of the detail to leave the subject's side. In the video, detail leader Todd Madison was seen leaving Clinton's side to open the doors of the van.

The atypical behavior is likely due to the unexpectedly rushed exit, a former agent told The Post.

"Every once in a while, you have to call an audible," he said. "We follow a methodology, not a script."

The Post originally reported that the agents may have broken Secret Service protocol. However, an agency spokesman said in a statement that "at no time did any Secret Service personnel violate security protocols."
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https://twitter.com/SecretService/status/775085070835150848?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
 
Pashalis said:
JEEP said:
Saw this at one of the links previously referenced:

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Donald J. Trump 2016 ‏@TrumpWhiteHouse 7h7 hours ago

@FoxNews @HillaryClinton She won't make it to November! She is literally unfit to lead, mentally and physically!
#SickHillary
60 retweets 142 likes

Maybe a Trump person filmed Killary's assisted leg buckling entry into her van - wouldn't his people want to be around to document anything negative re her especially if they knew she was leaving prematurely?

Can you post the source link? I can't find Trump saying anything to that extent...

It looks unlikely that Trump said or posted this. My guess is, it is from some other guy on twitter.

CNN and Bloomberg say that Trump and his staff might have ordered their peeps to not take advantage of Killarys health situation by keeping silent about it, because of campaigning strategy:

http://edition.cnn.com/2016/09/11/politics/hillary-clinton-health/
http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2016-09-12/trump-plans-to-keep-quiet-on-clinton-s-health-issues

CNN said:
Trump camp silent

Throughout Sunday Trump and surrogates were uncharacteristically quiet about Clinton's health. Sources involved in Trump's campaign said they want to be respectful about the health of his Democratic rival.One said the campaign's message was to wish Clinton well and hope she gets the necessary medical care.

Another source said surrogates have been instructed to be respectful and not to post on social media about Clinton's health incident.
Separately someone familiar with the situation said staff was instructed to keep quiet and not post anything negative on social media about the issue -- with termination a potential consequence for doing so.

Trump himself has not tweeted about Clinton's health today, and this afternoon while he visited a firehouse he refused to comment on her health. "I don't know anything about it, don't know anything about it," he told reporters.

Trump's running mate, Indiana Gov. Mike Pence, refused to acknowledge reporters' questions Sunday about Clinton and her health at an awards ceremony that he presided over in Indianapolis.

So the above statement is most likely not from Trump...

If you look at all the mainstream outlets now, and their top stories, it definitively looks like she will have to step down before the election.

One example:
http://edition.cnn.com/

So, who will replace her? My bet is on Biden :barf:
 
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