Hiroshima @ Nagasaki
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Aerick
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Why did Perceval asked this question ? Did he doubt ? The information was there, no?
For me this information was already acquired since the deadly gas would also have killed the guards since they were not masters of sealing.
the question was still asked.
So why not asking this question?
What has lead you to question whether two atomic bombs were dropped on those sites in that year?
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I think there's a lot of evidence that it did in fact take place as described, namely two atomic bombs were dropped over Japan in 1945, but if you have evidence that may indicate otherwise, feel free to share it.
I hear you. About the gas chambers there is controversy that's why the question was asked. But about the 2 bombs I never hear anything. Maybe you are right to ask about it, but did you have some information about that maybe the USA did not launch the 2 atomic bombs. If you have this information why not share it with us?
Hi Aerick, there is a lot of evidence that this happened. See this article on Sott.net: Hiroshima and Nagasaki - 70 years ago the US 'elite' murdered 500,000 Japanese civilians to 'send a warning' to Russia and Russian report on U.S. genocide of Hiroshima and Nagasaki declassified
I'm also curious to know why you're doubting it happened.
Aerick
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Here is my answer to all 
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Marvin Minsky - Thinking the Hiroshima bomb was a hoax (16/151)
Marvin Lee Minsky (August 9, 1927 – January 24, 2016) was an American cognitive and computer scientist concerned largely with research of artificial intelligence (AI), co-founder of the Massachusetts Institute of Technology's AI laboratory, and author of several texts concerning AI and philosophy.
:Marvin Minsky - Thinking the Hiroshima bomb was a hoax (16/151)
Marvin Lee Minsky (August 9, 1927 – January 24, 2016) was an American cognitive and computer scientist concerned largely with research of artificial intelligence (AI), co-founder of the Massachusetts Institute of Technology's AI laboratory, and author of several texts concerning AI and philosophy.
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Aerick
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Here is my answer to all
:Marvin Minsky - Thinking the Hiroshima bomb was a hoax (16/151)
Marvin Lee Minsky (August 9, 1927 – January 24, 2016) was an American cognitive and computer scientist concerned largely with research of artificial intelligence (AI), co-founder of the Massachusetts Institute of Technology's AI laboratory, and author of several texts concerning AI and philosophy.
XPan
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Also when you study the characteristics
of the Zyklon B gas (being highly explosive and of course toxic), also points towards that the guards never would been able to light a cigarette "while waiting outside the door" - the whole camp would have blown up into pieces when re-opening the doors with all the trapped gas between the corpses. Not to mention the immediate toxic impact it would had on the guards, too.
Plus - if I recall correctly but I am not really 100% sure - that the infrastructure of IG Farben factory had already been destroyed in the end of 1943 or early 1944, unable to deliver any Zyklon B after that.
When it comes to Hiroshima @ Nagasaki, I have no knowledge really, other than the official version. Only heard rumors of that it might been a destruction though other origin - but I never followed that path any deeper - so I don't know (and keep that question "open in the room hovering". What sticks out are the "clean" streets among the devastation...
Sidenote:
Other thing I noticed "which sticks out" from big, official events (and here I switch subject for a moment )- is the Japan 2011 Tōhoku earthquake and following tsunami: In the many videos showing how the tsunami rolling in - when you observe the buildings - they don't really show any structual visible damage.
Given how extreme the effect of a 9+ Earthquake has on any buildings - I never saw such damages on houses before the tsunami rolled in... Very strange...
He says: "It was a hoax, because Hiroshima was a port city and I assumed that someone equipped a barge with tons of TNT and slipped this barge in the harbor, flew a plane over and dropped something and set off this bomb. So, I assumed this was a trick to fool the Japanese into thinking we had an atomic bomb. But Nagasaki wasn't so accessible. Many people must have wondered why we dropped two bombs, why wasn't one enough. My first thought was that there were two to convince them it wasn't a hoax."
I have to say I'm not convinced. It has to be a lot of TNT to cause this type of damage. This article describes the characteristics of an atomic bomb, which differ from TNT (one being that it gives off greater amounts of radiation). This person, I believe, is the same Minsky mentioned in this article:
So he had ties to the CIA. Perhaps he tried to spread disinformation. For what it's worth!
Aerick
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Perfect, thank you for this article.
In the same interview, he also says that "consciousness is at odds with evolution", it "doesn't exist" and "the word 'consciousness' is just used to control people".
Yeah, for your own good, people, you better do not believe in that silly and dangerous concept! And you better doubt that the US could have dropped TWO nuclear bombs on civilians, because it's much easier, logistically and otherwise, to run a complex operation with planting a huge amount of conventional explosives on a boat in an enemy country and then just air-bomb it with a perfect precision. Yeah right.
I had the pleasure of living in Japan for four years. I learned the language, and often spoke to people who had been there or nearby when the bombs dropped. They themselves describe the event, and it absolutely resembles two atomic bombs going off. The first was hoped to be enough. They continued with their fire bombing and asked the Japanese to surrender after the first bomb. Japan said no. Only after the second bomb when their equivalent of Congress urged the Emperor to call it quits did they do so. And only because the US told them the next target was Tokyo. In those days the Emperor was both the royalty and a sort of demi-god to the locals, and so they decided to convince him.
Are you sure? That's what Tokyo looked like after March 1945 firebombing, which would become the deadliest air raid in human history, including each of the atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki:
