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Re: Historical Events Database

Data said:
I could make an online app rather quickly, which all of you could access. Based on your input I've created a mockup for the input form, attached to this post.

I guess the main purpose is to have enough data/event points so that we can correlate later with modern records of tree rings, eclipses, position of stars, etc. to estimate the 'historical gap' that Laura mentioned. Because of this, the app could be a generic historical events tracker; generic enough so that the characteristic properties of all kinds of events can be entered.

It doesn't care about categories and actual event names, they can be added by the users. In case the lists get too long, there would be a search function to avoid duplication. New event names should be added only when an event is very different from the existing ones, so that 'thinning out' of the number of available data points is avoided. That is why the initial event list should be well thought out.

As many properties as possible can be entered. If a property is not known, it can be left empty or zero. I've added to the mockup as many characteristic properties that I could think of. Which properties to be used to present the data, and how the actual presentation of the data will be (maps, graphs, lists, filtered lists, etc.) we can decide later, after the data has been entered.
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Looks good! On the location issue, should that also be categorized like with the event type in order to make it easier to correlate later?
 
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Palinurus said:
I've searched the interwebs for world history timeline and found this:

Gallery of Data Visualization - timelines

and on the absolute bottom line there I found a gadget that might be of use here:

SIMILE Widgets - Timeline

Hope this helps a bit. :)
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I'm not a tekkie, but it doesn't look like what we want. We want something that produces graphs with spikes and stuff that can be matched to spikes and stuff on ice cores and tree rings or that can be used to note timeline duplication segments.
 
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It doesn't have to be one program that does everything. One program can be used to collect and organize data. And then another one can be used to read the output from the first program (tables, text files, etc.) and be used to analyze and plot the data.
 
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mkrnhr said:
It doesn't have to be one program that does everything. One program can be used to collect and organize data. And then another one can be used to read the output from the first program (tables, text files, etc.) and be used to analyze and plot the data.
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Exactly. The online thingie would, for now, just be a data entry form. Presentation comes later.
 
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Don Genaro said:
Laura said:
It's finished!

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00IC8X3WE/
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Will there be a kindle version available in Europe?
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Definitely. I don't know why it doesn't show up. Will check it and get back to you.
 
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Data said:
Don Genaro said:
Laura said:
It's finished!

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00IC8X3WE/
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Will there be a kindle version available in Europe?
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Definitely. I don't know why it doesn't show up. Will check it and get back to you.
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Okay, thanks. I haven't checked the other European sites, just Spain and only the paperback is showing up, as "unavailable at the moment" although I guessed that was just whilst they're waiting on shipments?
 
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I like Data's entry screen thingy. So however ya'll think it will sort out, let's do it. I'll happily make entries as I read and hope that some others will help.

I was also thinking that we should enter modern archaeological info that may match some entries and that would need to be a separate category.

Who knows? We might actually solve this one! With hard, statistical data to back it up!
 
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I like Data's online app mockup and I think that just might work. Think we would a different tab or database on that for a list of books being assigned to whom and we'll know who's reading what? I can certainly help with the entries.
 
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I think it is a great idea and would certainly enter stuff if I come across something relevant. I'm a slow reader, but FWIW.

It will be like having metadata on the situation. Cool!
 
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Data said:
mkrnhr said:
It doesn't have to be one program that does everything. One program can be used to collect and organize data. And then another one can be used to read the output from the first program (tables, text files, etc.) and be used to analyze and plot the data.
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Exactly. The online thingie would, for now, just be a data entry form. Presentation comes later.
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Okay, understood.

I have been searching further for world history time lines and found out that there actually is a bedazzling plethora of attempts to these available on the web. Most of them use mainstream sources, events and dates. Up until now I found only one person who starts off with a list of major impacts but I get the wary feeling he isn't thorough enough with that -- rather arbitrary really; especially in his also available chronology of extreme weather.

I'll keep searching...
 
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I think the data entry form is going to be really great to start the process of gathering everything together. Then, there will be many useful, informative ways to generate different uses, as mentioned. Exciting! How and when are the texts going to be chosen/listed for people to pick for reading and data entry - is it decided yet?
 
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Laura said:
What I think we need is an online form thing where we can start combing through the ancient texts and finding certain types of data and entering it according to the year that has been assigned to it. We could have a column for dates, and several columns for the kinds of events that we are looking for and then could produce graphs of them that we might try to match to ice core spikes or something. But it would take a number of people to get everything covered.

[...] I was also thinking that we should enter modern archaeological info that may match some entries and that would need to be a separate category.

Who knows? We might actually solve this one! With hard, statistical data to back it up! [...]

What do ya'll think?
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I think it would be an exciting project, and I hope I can help contribute to it. I like the look of the mock-up that Data posted, too.
 
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Forgot to mention that I bought the new QFG translation of Carl Zohren's Valerius Antias and Caesar book on amazon Kindle version today. Is this one of the texts that can we can use to enter data from too?
 
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