How do humans change the cycle for 1D and 2D?

[T.C.]

When I said that the long wave and short wave cycles were formed at the same time, I mean it semantically. It’s like saying, “there was originally just a ‘hot’ cycle, and then later on, someone wanted to experience ‘cold’, so cold was invented after hot.” You can’t have cold without hot, just like you can’t have long without short.

Also, we have been told that there is no time, so one couldn’t have been created after the other.

And again, in my opinion, the way the C’s said that existence can only be experienced in two ways - either on a long wave cycle or a short wave cycle - to me implies that they were speaking generally, and those ways have always existed and are always options for soul groups. I don’t see why they would have said that at the time they did in the way that they did. And they’ve gone into quite a lot of detail about how it’s an option to speed up reunion with the one, and it has partly ethereal and partly physical experience, etc.

 

[axj]

We are also sort of getting into the territory of the unknowable to us. For example, the C's said that there have been infinite or close to infinite Big Bang Grand Cycles.

Was the short wave cycle formed before or during the initial Big Bang Grand Cycle together with the long wave cycle? Maybe. They did mention that something like natural necessity was the reason for forming the short wave cycle.

Though since the short wave cycle was formed, it implies that there was a beginning to it. There are many possibilities to what existed in the eternity before that and this is quite certainly in the unknowable territory for us.

You can’t have cold without hot, just like you can’t have long without short.

What we now call the long wave cycle could have been simply the only mode of existence originally - only ethereal or physical existence, with no option to have half of one and half of the other together as in the short wave cycle.

Also, we have been told that there is no time, so one couldn’t have been created after the other.

The C's also said that they are still learning, which implies a before and after or something similar to time beyond our illusory time. They called it "the expanded present".

And again, in my opinion, the way the C’s said that existence can only be experienced in two ways - either on a long wave cycle or a short wave cycle - to me implies that they were speaking generally, and those ways have always existed and are always options for soul groups.

The C's said that the short wave cycle was formed ("through nature through the natural bounds of the universe"), which means it has not always existed.

 

[T.C.]

The C's said that the short wave cycle was formed ("through nature through the natural bounds of the universe"), which means it has not always existed.

If a chicken lays an egg tomorrow, then that egg was formed after a time when it didn’t exist. But other eggs did. My interpretation of the C’s comments about the short wave cycle that pertains to this discussion, the human one that affected 1D and 2D entities on Earth, is like that.

But that’s just my theory.

 

[Fluffy]

Since the C's said that the long wave is completely ethereal, I curently prefer to disagree with your suggestion that "the long wave is purely physical for flora and fauna". There must be some misunderstanding there. I prefer to consider that the experience of flora and fauna in the long wave is also "etheric" regardless of their inhabiting a physical plane. As I said before, when humanity was in the long wave (ethereal) cycle, they were apparently still somewhere on or around the planet earth at least for some time before the "fall". It seems that they were in some etheric field of the planet. There's a talk of humans living on Lemuria, which the C's say "submerged close to time you refer to as Fall of Eden, approximately". So, if I get that right, the completely etheric long wave cycle can be connected to or with a physical plane, such as the Earth (marriage between soul and matter?) This "might" be roughly explaining how fauna and flora could be experiencing a long wave cycle on a physical plane. I don't claim to have clearly explained the situation, I just try to get closer to a reliable explanation as best as I can.

I’m glad you said that, you articulated my thoughts, thank you.
I would also suspect that in an environment that is physical but not inhabited by 3D that it would likely be STO, with strong -unveiled - connection to 5D.

Still, I’m grappling with the idea that spiritual/ethereal can have a form of physical body.

May be something like from this session:

Session 28 July 2025

mamibio74) On June 9, in Les Abrets, Isère, I met a child of about 2 and a half years old in a place dedicated to children (castle and other inflatables) who spontaneously took my hand. This very blond child with very light blue eyes left me with a strange impression. I saw a light come out of his eyes for a moment. Was it something external that made me think this had happened? When I asked him where his mommy was, he replied with a long sentence that included a lot of i's and o's (nothing to do with the Italian language) and he pointed 3 times to a specific place in the sky. Why was he alone for so long? I had to keep an eye on my grandson, which diverted my attention and strangely enough I forgot about him for a while. I didn't feel he was in distress, maybe that's why, but it's not like me. When I went to look for him, he'd disappeared. I'd like to know if this child is a hybrid?

A: No

Q: (mamibio74) If he's a real human...?

A: No

Q: (mamibio74) ... and what happened?

(L) You didn't ask an open enough question. Who is this person? Are you here?

(Chu) No.

(L) Another one who's not here. You didn't leave options for anything. Okay. So I'll try to, okay. Who or what was this child? Was this a human child? They said no. Okay. Was it a hybrid? They said no. What was it?

A: Manifestation of spirit of 5D.

Q: (L) So is it kind of like a ghost?

A: Yes

Q: (L) Oh, I was going to say an angel. Yeah, it sounded like an angel to me.