how to get un-bored?

[Mountain Crown]

What's so wrong about being bored after all ?

I don't think there is nothing inherently negative about it, though I wonder if it is an imbalance in wich someone is paying more attention to its own lack of self-gratifying experiences than to a more balanced one in wich an individual makes an effort to be in contact with the outside world looking for the succesfull integration and evolution of both.

Very insightful, Ana.

Boredom is like a computer on standby (sleep mode), waiting for an external stimulus, it's because we're machines.

The feedback never really occurred? We weren't really doing?

Maybe it could be thought of as contraction.

 

[Tigersoap]

I don't think there is nothing inherently negative about it, though I wonder if it is an imbalance in wich someone is paying more attention to its own lack of self-gratifying experiences than to a more balanced one in wich an individual makes an effort to be in contact with the outside world looking for the succesfull integration and evolution of both.

I am not sure it's that clear cut, from the article below

In a recent paper in The Cambridge Journal of Education, Teresa Belton and Esther Priyadharshini of East Anglia University in England reviewed decades of research and theory on boredom, and concluded that it's time that boredom "be recognized as a legitimate human emotion that can be central to learning and creativity."

http://www.sott.net/articles/show/163635-You-re-Bored-but-Your-Brain-Is-Tuned-In

 

[ana]

I don't think there is nothing inherently negative about it, though I wonder if it is an imbalance in wich someone is paying more attention to its own lack of self-gratifying experiences than to a more balanced one in wich an individual makes an effort to be in contact with the outside world looking for the succesfull integration and evolution of both.

I am not sure it's that clear cut, from the article below

In a recent paper in The Cambridge Journal of Education, Teresa Belton and Esther Priyadharshini of East Anglia University in England reviewed decades of research and theory on boredom, and concluded that it's time that boredom "be recognized as a legitimate human emotion that can be central to learning and creativity."

http://www.sott.net/articles/show/163635-You-re-Bored-but-Your-Brain-Is-Tuned-In

Research suggests that falling into a numbed trance allows the brain to recast the outside world in ways that can be productive and creative at least as often as they are disruptive

"It's the difference between the sort of person who can look at a pool of mud and find something interesting, and someone who has a hard time getting absorbed in anything,"

I do agree with this althought as I see it, it has nothing to do with being bored,
Seeing a pool of mud and use creativity to improve the conditions has nothing to do with being bored, but with being able to remain in a perceptiveness state "in a passive state" where everything about the observed "object" becomes more clearer and all possibilities become evident, at least that has been my experience with the use of creativity and its stages, maybe I am doing wrong analogies but I see the term bored more related to apathy, and again I see this as a symptom of imbalance between external and internal world and frustation.

I would also add that creativity is only available if the channel is clear and balanced, if one is bored is blocking the channel for creativity, of course those are only my own conclusions based on my own experiences..

 

[Approaching Infinity]

I figured out, at last, what got me so bored in the first place!!

The cassiopaeans have remarked on obsession, which causes stagnation in a person's life.
It is hard to explain at the moment so I cannot go into detail. I figured out that certain music-associated
obsessions were keeping other parts of my "musical mind" so to speak, from developing.

So basically, the solution here, I think, is to branch out into another completely different area
of doing music. Thats it. I'm bored with one thing, so i'm going to another.

Perhaps you could try expressing emotions in your music. The thing about metal is that it is basically a fusion of intellect and basic frustration, anger, aggression. Can you express longing, sadness, joy, loss, pathos, etc? I think it could be a good exercise in stimulating "cosmic love" (i.e. higher emotions) in yourself, thus helping to build compassion and understanding for others.

 

[abstract]

Perhaps you could try expressing emotions in your music. The thing about metal is that it is basically a fusion of intellect and basic frustration, anger, aggression. Can you express longing, sadness, joy, loss, pathos, etc? I think it could be a good exercise in stimulating "cosmic love" (i.e. higher emotions) in yourself, thus helping to build compassion and understanding for others.

Hopefully, I will make someone cry
No, but seriously, I agree with you there.

 

[Tigersoap]

I do agree with this althought as I see it, it has nothing to do with being bored,
Seeing a pool of mud and use creativity to improve the conditions has nothing to do with being bored, but with being able to remain in a perceptiveness state "in a passive state" where everything about the observed "object" becomes more clearer and all possibilities become evident, at least that has been my experience with the use of creativity and its stages, maybe I am doing wrong analogies but I see the term bored more related to apathy, and again I see this as a symptom of imbalance between external and internal world and frustation.

Yes maybe the word boredom is not correct in all situations, I don't know, maybe it's sometimes melancholy, sometime open passivity ? I don't know.
Again i think if the person as capabilities for development, boredom will be a necessary (?) disintegration state, but only transitory.


[quote author=Ana]I would also add that creativity is only available if the channel is clear and balanced, if one is bored is blocking the channel for creativity, of course those are only my own conclusions based on my own experiences..
[/quote]

In my case, when creativity is blocked it has nothing to do with boredom at first, it's like "boredom" (for lack of a better word) is the consequence of something else(unresolved issues) which is blocking the creative flow.
I always picture this like a filter (maybe wrongly), when it's clogged, nothing can drip through.

I think that it may even be a natural process of ups and downs, of course it would be great if it was that easy to create and always find the right moment or idea but it is not imho.

 

[bjorb]

[quote author=abstract]So I have been playin' guitar since I was 14, right? I don't know what happened but nowadays I barely even remember that I own guitars, that they even exist.
It's kinda lame, I was making really good progress as a musician, and then I just lost interest in the 5th and 6th years.[/quote]

Maybe you suddenly lost interest because you achieved what you where striving for.

If you try to find out what your motivation was to play guitar. You also may find out why you lost that interest.


But besides to me it appears your inner life is undergoing a lot of chances and in that progress a lot of energy is used anyhow.

Like you said, your going through a chance when you don’t really have the desire to do a lot of things you used to do.



[quote author=MC]Boredom is like a computer on standby (sleep mode), waiting for an external stimulus, it's because we're machines.[/quote]

Yeah, it really can be an indication that you are dependent on external stimulation.

 

[ana]

I do agree with this althought as I see it, it has nothing to do with being bored,
Seeing a pool of mud and use creativity to improve the conditions has nothing to do with being bored, but with being able to remain in a perceptiveness state "in a passive state" where everything about the observed "object" becomes more clearer and all possibilities become evident, at least that has been my experience with the use of creativity and its stages, maybe I am doing wrong analogies but I see the term bored more related to apathy, and again I see this as a symptom of imbalance between external and internal world and frustation.

Yes maybe the word boredom is not correct in all situations, I don't know, maybe it's sometimes melancholy, sometime open passivity ? I don't know.
Again i think if the person as capabilities for development, boredom will be a necessary (?) disintegration state, but only transitory.

I don’t think it is “necessary” although it could be very well a symptom why not, I think the process its symptoms and the duration depend on on the individual, the cristalization and its capability to let illusions and lies die. Is a painfull process with ups and downs and seems to me the worst thing is not knowing what is exactly happening while you experience the chaotic states. I think trying not to focus on the transitory feelings or lack of feelings or symptoms, seeing them as transitory as you say makes the process “easier”.
Maybe in disintegration creativity is inside us trying to find its way, if we fight to hold the illusion we suffer even more.

I think that it may even be a natural process of ups and downs, of course it would be great if it was that easy to create and always find the right moment or idea but it is not imho.

I see it as a matter of letting things happen without forcing, remaining open and as free as possible of self concerns, untill it becomes a natural state, where also you become part of this living water and, wherever you are you carry water.. (I think Luthien has a good sentence on water) The most important is that creativity is absolutely free of self interest or self gratification creativity means openess and giving, a forever expanding living force.

 

[abstract]

I feel I must apologize, I have not yet gotten the time to put up more stuff on my youtube, my car wouldn't start yesterday and it's been a pain trying to figure it out, it works now though. Ill let peoples know when its up.

Maybe you suddenly lost interest because you achieved what you where striving for.

good possibility. Set new goals??

But besides to me it appears your inner life is undergoing a lot of chances and in that progress a lot of energy is used anyhow.

Like you said, your going through a chance when you don’t really have the desire to do a lot of things you used to do.

I would agree that my focus is somewhat scattered these days, clearing up as we go along though. I think if i just let myself get back into the habit
of regular practice, maybe i'd show some improvements.

 

[anart]

Just a thought that it might be a good idea to post a link to your youtube channel when you make a new video. That way - the link is easy to access.

I just watched your 'blurb' video.

You strike me as someone with a strong and curious mind, who sort of hides behind the 'cool guy' facade. In fact, a few times in there you seemed to sneak out and say a few words, from behind the cool guy!

I'm not saying there is anything necessarily wrong with the cool guy facade (other than it's a facade) - and this facade is helpful for rock musicians who perform as rock musicians - but it seems to me that there might actually be a real you in there - standing behind that facade, perhaps wondering when it will no longer be necessary to do so.

Or, I could be wrong. ;)

If you're really interested in discussing the UFO topic, don't do so before reading Keel's books. I assume you've read High Strangeness by Laura, but if not, it's primer material as well.

Hey, if you're gonna talk about it and broadcast it, then you may as well know what you're talking about! (and if you've already read all that, then just ignore my input on that regard)

 

[abstract]

Just a thought that it might be a good idea to post a link to your youtube channel when you make a new video. That way - the link is easy to access.

Agreed.

You strike me as someone with a strong and curious mind, who sort of hides behind the 'cool guy' facade. In fact, a few times in there you seemed to sneak out and say a few words, from behind the cool guy!

I'm not saying there is anything necessarily wrong with the cool guy facade (other than it's a facade) - and this facade is helpful for rock musicians who perform as rock musicians - but it seems to me that there might actually be a real you in there - standing behind that facade, perhaps wondering when it will no longer be necessary to do so.

Cool guy facade? You are the first person to ever say anything like that about my personality, no but seriously, I'm not sure what you mean...maybe that's just what i naturally do as I talk. I never really thought about that.

If you're really interested in discussing the UFO topic, don't do so before reading Keel's books. I assume you've read High Strangeness by Laura, but if not, it's primer material as well.

agreed. Will take time to do this though.

 

[Andrew]

Have you thought about teaching others, what you know about guitar?

That knowledge is valuable for anyone who wants to learn how to play, anyone
wanting to enhance their playing, learn new techniques, theory etc.

Plus, it would:

a.) allow you to connect with other Musicians who are "serious"
about playing.

and

b.) be a potential income stream for your contribution to the
Music Community IF you decided to take it that route.

And I'm sure a lot more, than just these two examples.


Your YouTube page could easily be the Catalyst for this type of idea.

Post videos of yourself covering different songs, show some of your
Original material, make video tips and suggestions, etc.

No doubt once people see that you're a skilled musician they are going to
want to know what you know and it's history from there depending if you want
to act on that sort of thing or not.


Just a thought.

Thought I should post.


Take Care Man

 

[abstract]

Much appreciated andrew. I actually do give lessons to a kid whos 13, i'm enjoying that quite a bit. I have thought about putting out videos like you are suggesting, i guess i should get around to it, thanks. :D

And by the way, I have a new piece of music up on my youtube. here's the link, enjoy! :) (this piece is MUCH softer than the first one)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4B3fZMlBpew

 

[Andrew]

Hey,

I actually really like this piece here.

Once suggestion though:

If you can record yourself playing that piece, DO IT!

And my hats off to you my friend -- I don't know how you do it, or how it's done
but me personally just cannot for the life of me compose a song.

I can get about 1 or 2 good riffs in and after that I just get lost on the fretboard.

All that theory and stuff is just so complex...and I have no idea how to utilize it

but I guess that's what years and years of practice is for then huh?

Keep it up!

 

[abstract]

I actually really like this piece here.

You are too kind. ;)

If you can record yourself playing that piece, DO IT!

I did record it.

I can get about 1 or 2 good riffs in and after that I just get lost on the fretboard.

ugh...that problem will never go away

All that theory and stuff is just so complex...and I have no idea how to utilize it

IMO, not too complicated when understood correctly. I don't even know that much theory.