"Hyperkinetic Sensate" hyperactive sense phenomena

[Ðekel]

Puck,

I've also gotten those little blips of light in my peripheral vision. Typically it's at night while I'm smoking on my fire escape, it's like a little flash or blur of something and when I turn to examine it there's nothing there. I've tended to assume it was light reflecting off of something, but there's been a few times it's happened that I couldn't explain away. This has been going on for the past year or so, not something new with the diet changes, fwiw.

i regard these phenomena, as you, not to be something to be concerned with or enamored by too much.

something interesting though; sight through peripheral vision is thought to be "spiritual" sight in a few asian cultures.

 

[Serendipity]

Hey
With new knowledge I have,and especially after last session from c's I'm almost positive that the experience I had as a child,and again few years ago was somehow sensing the hyperkinetic sensate,or even wave.Either it was some sort of precognition of the possible future or accidental tumbling into domain of the wave (that happened around 1995, and if I'm not mistaken wave was already coming then) This are just my assumptions,don't get me wrong I'm not trying to claim anything,just giving my interpretation of that event and trying to share it as clear as possible in hope you can understand it,maybe even relate to it.

Here is post from another topic where I wrote about it some 6 months ago.

Also there is one really strange event when I was 5 years old that might be connected with this 'ability'.
Something happened while I was sleeping and it wasn't just a dream or nightmare.All I could remember next morning was terrible feeling of fear and confusion and sense that it wasn't first time that happened to me.I also remembered some bits of that event but I couldn't explain it with words,and when I think back at it I got that 'energy wave traveling through my body and goosebumps feeling'.Yeah,even today.
Let me try explain that event/state that happened using words.
I was pulled away to some completely unfamiliar/scary place, like different dimension.(Closest thing to describe it is space/universe with asteroids)
Feeling of fear of losing myself in that huge immensity was allpresent.All was huge and strange and there were all kinds of objects(but not really objects) so terrifyingly vast , and they were moving around me really fast and I felt them somehow.And I even remember hearing some voices and names few from my family that I know, and others unfamiliar and when I felt like I'm going get devoured and lost in that 'dimension' I finally woke up terrified like never in my life cause nothing could be compared to that .
Few years ago I got courage and somehow get to that dimension/state again, when I was in mid-dream state but this time wasn't that scary but feeling was the same.

Let me try again to give you short description of what happened.I remembered some new details and will try be more clear.

While I was sleeping it was like something pulled me of my normal dreams.Like a whirlwind that carried me away in unknown and terrifying dimension of chaos that was unlike anything I ever imagined before.I remember feeling of moving very fast,I mean something moving me very fast through unknown 'space'. I had completely no control, that alone was enough to scare the hell out of anyone.I remember fear that was so intense and not usual kind of fear but something completely new,can be described as existential fear, cause what stuck in my mind most was that I was afraid of losing myself to that typhoon,I had the feeling that I'll be squashed of the existence any moment,lost in middle of that speed, unrecognizable dimension and did I mention meteors?They were all around me as I was carried through that 'place' and whenever I passed near one of them fear skyrocketed even higher,each time I thought I'm gone but I wasn't,and I kept being blown through a lot of meteors,without knowing where will I land.And last thing I remember was some, let's say voices,names of people I knew and maybe even some I didn't knew then but met later(but that's pretty much guessing now) and some material objects like plates and spoons etc,really bizarre.Then I woke up totally shaken,without being able to explain to my mother what just happened.I even had inexplicable feeling that it happened many times before.Or maybe it is happening all time,but on some deeper level, who knows.
Why I think it was hyperkinetic sensate? Let's see..
enormous speed,one might call it hyperkinetic - check
most intense,and by words indescribable sensations,particularly bad ones like fear - check
meteors - check
and even strong feeling of being washed from the existence(while in strange dimension that I haven't been able to perceive properly) and/or carried who know where

I might be wishfully thinking or be completely out of base but still I though it's worth to mention.Can't hurt anyone,right. Any thoughts or critics?
Thank you for reading :)

 

[Serendipity]

Just throwing out the possibility that maybe that experience/dream was of the future where I went hohum, so it served as warning to choose better path.
Then again, the whole thing might have been anything other then that.From simple encounter with my subconsciousness to past life memory or even abduction(TDARM ?)

Now,some thoughts of mine.Maybe I'm discovering hot water here :P

What if the wave is the cleaning broom that will clean/disintegrate all that is not real in a person,false personality,only leaving that which is of Truth inside a person,the inner being.
What if these cases of people becoming zombies that happened in may/june were only the first ones to fall,and they fell apart due to their weak genetics and personalities.
What if when wave comes many more lose their minds and false personalities completely(which is only thing that keeps then living 'normal' lives ATM).We might have real zombie outbreak

One might wonder why they are hundreds of horror movies and games with zombie theme.Somebody out there is pushing that idea really hard, or is it maybe our subconsciousness warning us.

Interesting that 'zombie outbreak' occurred almost 2 years prior to new year that c's are anticipating so much. Maybe approaching of the wave and effects behave like sinusoide and is cyclical in relation to our solar year. Maybe we are to expect next bigger outbreak same time next year before the real deal reaches Earth?


That reminded me of a disturbing dream I had last year of extremely ominous black clouds that suddenly appeared on the horizon.The 'atmosphere' became so eerie and dark,me and people around me felt panick and knew that danger is coming.The clouds were moving as if they were alive and had some kind of consciousness,and they as it appeared, spread all over the world,making the whole sky covered. People started running and hidding but there was no hidding from it.When the cloud reached someone it grabbed him/her and sucked him/her in. It devoured everyone who 'deserved' it.That's what I knew while I was in the dream.Dream continues,and I'm running and hiding with some people, fearing that I'll be sucked,then finally the cloud reached us and we remained..alive, or so I think :)
Thank you for reading

 

[200Thrombophlebitis]

I am in the middle circle. Something inside me had recently awoke, again. I should preface this post With the story of my brief encounter with" insanity". When I turned eighteen, seven years ago I was hospitalized in a fourteen day transitional mental health facility(bhr acutepsychiatric services). I was placed in custody five times in eight months and the last time was for almost three montha. They said they were waiting on a bed date at western state mental hospital. Then one day they just released me back into the wild. I had information overload, but the two old female psychiatrists, said I had schizo-affective disorder. They fed me the antipsychotics rispirdone, zyprexa. The mood stabilizer trileptal, anti depressant welbutrin xr, and ativan. They said i would never be same without meds. I have never taken them and the knowledge I once wanted to have and obtained in an, albeit, unorthodox and dangerous way has been suppressed for over seven years. I have a son and have held down a job for over four years.
Something is stirring. I have always been keenly aware of energy and atmospheric changes. I have always scored as high as possible on reading comprehension tests. I have never talked out loud or online about this subject. I don't even have words to describe all the things I am feeling and seeing. When I read this sites user agreement, I found a thread of connectivity. I need a direction to start . I want out of the anthill. I don't even need answers, for I have no question. I use to many I's.

 

[Ðekel]

What if the wave is the cleaning broom that will clean/disintegrate all that is not real in a person,false personality,only leaving that which is of Truth inside a person,the inner being.
What if these cases of people becoming zombies that happened in may/june were only the first ones to fall,and they fell apart due to their weak genetics and personalities.

Ok. In that case, if there is little or no "truth" (soul / soul potential) in a person, what do you suppose might happen then ?

I don't know about a zombie apocalypse, i guess anything could happen. the future is open.

 

[Serendipity]

What if the wave is the cleaning broom that will clean/disintegrate all that is not real in a person,false personality,only leaving that which is of Truth inside a person,the inner being.
What if these cases of people becoming zombies that happened in may/june were only the first ones to fall,and they fell apart due to their weak genetics and personalities.

Ok. In that case, if there is little or no "truth" (soul / soul potential) in a person, what do you suppose might happen then ?

I don't know about a zombie apocalypse, i guess anything could happen. the future is open.

We can't know for sure. I was just shooting in dark when I wrote that post. Also assuming a lot, and presenting my subjective theory that was simply a theory, not even good one with real facts or good reasoning behind it.
But, let me try again, and to answer your question.

C's said about people disintegrating and we can see it happening in real time. We know that most of people shut down from self, parts of the reality or the self that they don't want or can't see. So they choose lies and more comfortable subjective world to live in instead, and pursue ghosts of material world, like success, admiration, money, self image, career, religion etc, all the while building their personalities and false selves and forgeting about their true natures. That is what sleep does in humans.
It is all good and alright while there is bread and circuses, so the sleep can continue, but what will happen when the hard reality pounds them in the face. Gurdjieff talked about human personality being the false construct that can fall as easily as house of cards when big shocks occur, and that it can even take them down in the fall.

Similar thing happened to my father and many other soldiers because of war, the PTSD. He has 70% psychic disability. When I talked to him once, his own words were following: '' I wasn't programmed and prepared for the things that happened in war.'' When he said that I realized something. Many people who suffered nervous break down during war were susceptible for that due to their heavy programming, belief in lies, and pathological influence from their family, as is the case with my dad. Many shocks during war were enough to cause nervous breakdown in such people, because their minds and nervous system weren't developed enough, and they were running on programs from before the war, which couldn't prepare them for what came. When I look to my father it pains me to see that he is broken, but that's what happened to him after the war, after he suffered nervous breakdown. Once he was strong, cheerfull and brave young man, after the war he just isn't the same person, not nearly.

My current opinion is that in the times ahead the most important thing will be preparedness, but not material preparedness as much as mental.
If cataclysms happen, IMO highest death toll could be from not being prepared mentally, and people disintegrating and having nervous break downs from shocks and fear, and also people not being able to think straight causing them to make bad decision etc.
That could be what C's meant when they talked about importance of looking at things from 4D perspective and not 3D during the turbulent times. And symbolism of story of Noah's ark.

session 16 October 1994

Q: (L) Well, the story of Noah tells us that Noah was told to build an ark.
A: Symbolic. Look at it this way. Noah built a boat because it seemed like an enjoyable enterprise and when the flood came it came in handy, see?
Q: (L) So, you are saying that if we do what we do because we enjoy it that we will be in the right place at the right time, doing the right thing when whatever happens happens, right?
A: Close.

I look at it like the ark being symbolic of mental preparation that is result of the Work, and helped by EE and diet, and ability to see reality objectively as a big and important part/result of it.
What will happen to people when cosmos starts cleaning the house we can only imagine or theorize. I guess different people will be affected differently and also to varying degrees.
I also think that many people aren't prepared at all for the mental turbulence resulted from changes ahead. What happens then only DCM knows. Future is open, like you said.
I hope I am not discovering hot water here.

 

[shijing]

When I read this sites user agreement, I found a thread of connectivity. I need a direction to start . I want out of the anthill. I don't even need answers, for I have no question. I use to many I's.

Hi 200Thrombophlebitis, and welcome to the forum. We encourage new members to post a brief introduction on the Newbie's board, telling us a bit more about yourself and how you found us. Looking forward to your intro :)

 

[Gaby]

I look at it like the ark being symbolic of mental preparation that is result of the Work, and helped by EE and diet, and ability to see reality objectively as a big and important part/result of it.

Perhaps the time has come where everybody will have the opportunity to face the truth about themselves. Emotional shocks, all things going down the tubes, climate changes, plagues and dis-ease everywhere, etc. It is as if buffers will have a hard time keeping up.

Gurdjieff said:

"Conscience is a state in which a man feels all at once everything that he in general feels, or can feel. And as everyone has within him thousands of contradictory feelings which vary from a deeply hidden realization of his own nothingness and fears of all kinds to the most stupid kind of self-conceit, self-confidence, self-satisfaction, and self-praise, to feel all this together would not only be painful but literally unbearable.

"If a man whose entire inner world is composed of contradictions were suddenly to feel all these contradictions simultaneously within himself, if he were to feel all at once that he loves everything he hates and hates everything he loves; that he lies when he tells the truth and that he tells the truth when he lies; and if he could feel the shame and horror of it all, this would be the state which is called 'conscience. A man cannot live in this state; he must either destroy contradictions or destroy conscience. He cannot destroy conscience, but if he cannot destroy it he can put it to sleep, that is, he can separate by impenetrable barriers one feeling of self from another, never see them together, never feel their incompatibility, the absurdity of one existing alongside another.

"But fortunately for man, that is, for his peace and for his sleep, this state of conscience is very rare. From early childhood 'buffers' begin to grow and strengthen in him, taking from him the possibility of seeing his inner contradictions and therefore, for him, there is no danger whatever of a sudden awakening. Awakening is possible only for those who seek it and want it, for those who are ready to struggle with themselves and work on themselves for a very long time and very persistently in order to attain it. For this it is necessary to destroy 'buffers,' that is, to go out to meet all those inner sufferings which are connected with the sensations of contradictions. Moreover the destruction of 'buffers' in itself requires very long work and a man must agree to this work realizing that the result of his work will be every possible discomfort and suffering from the awakening of his conscience.

"But conscience is the fire which alone can fuse all the powders in the glass retort which was mentioned before and create the unity which a man lacks in that state in which he begins to study himself.

"Awakening" from a subjective point of view will be completely impossible. If approached subjectively, it will be a complete ordeal followed by negative disintegration. The only possibility and sane way to face ourselves and reality is from an objective point of view. But in order to see things objectively, the subjective must die. Depending on the baggage and garbage carried all throughout life, this death of the "subjective self" might feel like a very slow and painful death. But perhaps the signs of the times are intensifying things in this sense as well.

The wave consists in feeling in terms of energy, a hyperkinetic sensate, and some people have to change their assumptions in order to experience the wave in a positive way. So it seems that if assumptions are not changed, it will be experienced negatively and downright disintegration will be the result. We are choosing organisms and under the pressure of our current times we are forced to either live consistently with a value or compromise it, revealing thus our true character. Every choice we are making is a statement about our true values and the only way to develop our true self is to exert our willpower in every situation. We develop values by practicing them whenever they are called for. As Aristotle said, people acquire virtues by first having put them into action. We become just by the practice of just actions, self-controlled by exercising self-control, and courageous by performing acts of courage.

It is our call to guard our integrity against negative disintegration. The integrity of our own minds is a sacred thing:

The day will come when, having ceased to dramatize the facts and justify himself, each problem will appear to him as it is, unhidden and unembellished. It is at this moment that the objective and just solution will appear possible and desirable to him, even though it involves some painful process ... because in this solution he will have found the road to the Truth which sets him free...

In other words, he will see his Personality in its ensemble and in every detail. In the same way, he will perceive all the results of his Karma, as well as all the distortions they have provoked in his being, in particular, the distortion that comes from hypocrisy towards oneself, and from the lies we tell ourselves. These are the most difficult elements to constate...

For the first time in his life, he will see himself objectively, as he is, with no make-up, without the least justification or compromise, and with no possibility of evasion. For the just, this ordeal is full of ineffable joy. To him it will be like the light of dawn.

Everything is at stake and the implications are far reaching for ourselves and the world.

 

[cubbex]

Well guys, I've been observing weird stuff going on inside my head. For one part, the most pathological thing inside it is showing, like all the potency I may have to be evil, like subtle thoughts that tries to vector myself to do evil stuff, but on the other side, I find that being tolerant, strong, and learning to how to give every person it's worth is becoming easier, like if changing myself for the benefit of others is easier than before. It can be thanks to cosmical or universal changes, or maybe just because I try to consume carbs as less as possible.

 

[Ðekel]

Psyche,

Thank You for your post. I find what you are saying to be extremely insightful.

Prometeo,

Well guys, I've been observing weird stuff going on inside my head. For one part, the most pathological thing inside it is showing, like all the potency I may have to be evil, like subtle thoughts that tries to vector myself to do evil stuff, but on the other side, I find that being tolerant, strong, and learning to how to give every person it's worth is becoming easier, like if changing myself for the benefit of others is easier than before. It can be thanks to cosmical or universal changes, or maybe just because I try to consume carbs as less as possible.

I too have been staring directly at many programs in my head. Especially many falsities and quite a lot of imagination.
For me personally it has sped up since my father passed away a couple of months back.
Looking around, I think it also might be safe to say that things do seem to be speeding up in general.
Old things and falsities usually fall apart at some point, being baseless, but there's a different quality in the speed at which this is happening, OSIT.

There has been another case of insane head biting zombie action for one.
Maybe it's just me, but there seems to be an overall tenseness in the air.. ?