I am being attacked, both externally and internally

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I am being attacked, and it is really very serious. I am being harassed externally and being attacked internally, I believe that perhaps some 4D technology is being applied to me. When I first came here I was making rapid progress, and came to the point when I could feel some kind of a higher connection, I was full of energy, my mind was clear and felt very blissful for about a month. Also at that time I received 1 Reiki initiation.

Then the external harassment started. I will write about external first, and internal secondly, but they go hand by hand, the internal started later, when the managed to scare me, I suppose, and by doing this got access to me. So one day I was disconnected from all Cass websites, including this forum. In order to enter here, I needed to use proxy connection VPN. I found out that the my internet operator firm was a part of an American company. At that time I had no job and no money, I could not change the operator because I would need to pay a lot for breaking an agreement, so I needed to use proxy. After some time I changed the operator, and since then I have an access to these pages. But my internet stopped working properly many times a day, sometimes it stopped altogether. I kept calling technical help, they did not see any problem, but even changed my modem, and it did not help. I did not want wi-fi connection and I have only cable connection for two computer, mine and my son’s. And one time, when I was talking to technician, he told me he can see 3 objects connected, while I have only 2 computers. He could not explain it. After that, whenever I talked to any technician, I asked how many objects they could see and it was always 3. One day, when my cable was disconnected I noticed, in ‘internet connections” section on my PC, that there was additional connection installed and it was working, it was showing passing of the data, it was showing I am connected to internet while my cable was disconnected. I removed this connection from my PC and since then I can use my internet.

Another example: I received few phone calls from private (means unknown, you do not see the number calling) caller. When I answered I could hear some kind of metallic sounds. I decided to not answer this kind of phones. Soon after I was taking to a friend and sharing some information I got here ( I know few people I share my knowledge with, they ask for it). While I was telling her something important my mobile phoned, as if just in the right moment, I even thought it was THEM, it sounded ominous, but I checked and it was my friend, so I answered the phone. And again I could hear theses metallic sounds. Then it called second time (from the same friend) and the same happened. Later I asked the friend if she called me, she said: no. So next time when I was talking to the same friend I turned my phone off. It was about 11 o’clock at night and this time she received a phone call. She was surprised, because it was from a guy, who once repaired her computer, she did not really know him. She answered the phone and said hallo few times and disconnected. We did not talk about it, I did not want to scare her, but she must have sensed something because she immediately called her daughter and asked her if she had closed the doors and windows. These are just a few examples, there is much more.

I was scared at the beginning, now I got used to it and I am not scared any longer, maybe just a bit. Much worse part is the internal. As I said at the beginning I got really scared, because I considered myself to be nothing much, just a beginner here, just reading and working on myself, and then it appeared to me that somebody knows about me and does not like what I do and tries to scare me off. And the at the 18 of January (so it’s been a long time) the first attack came. I woke up and my whole body was a kind of vibrating. I could feel something moving in one place below my jaw, it is not possible to explain the feeling, there were as if strong currents flowing through my body, extremely unpleasant sensation. I was totally shocked and scared. And to make it short, it continues like this till now, sometimes it becomes milder, sometimes it is very strong. I did not know what was happening, I went to my friend who is a Reiki Master for Reiki healing session and I also asked her to give me a second initiation. At that time I thought it was a demon or something and I asked her if she could help me to get rid of it. She gave me Reiki and told me I have a very harmonious energy, no blocks at all, that she had never met such a person before. And she could not feel any attachment. As I persisted, that there is something in me, she told me she could only give me initiation after I find an exorcist, who would free me of it first. I went then to another Reiki Masters for 2 Reiki sessions (the ones that gave me 1-st initiation, they are a couple and work together), hoping that this something would go away after such a treatment, but they also told me I have a very clean and harmonious energy, and they did not sense anything (I did not tell them about supposed demon).

So I started looking for help, for somebody (exorcist) to clean me. I also tried very hard to do it myself, to get rid of it, it did not work. I guess in the meantime I really got some attachments. I paid money 3 times, they said they found something and relived it, but nothing changed. And what is going on is that all the time, once it started, I can feel as if something is moving in my face, most strongly on two sides of my nose and also in other places in my head, like under the right ear. And the wicked vibrations keep flowing in my body.
I did not surrender, I knew that if I surrender, I am finished. I kept fighting with it. I tried to do the whole EE program every day (sometimes I did not manage). I kept working on my programs very hard, believing that if I manage to get rid of them and stay calm, the device would stop working (as I suspected it could be a device, just was not sure). I made a big progress. I used to be very shy and scared of people, and I am not any more. I got a good job, which requires me to contact many people and deal with them, and I am doing well, for the first time in my life I have money. But I had to do all this with these wicked energy stirring within me, and with time my energy was going down, often I could not force myself to get out of bed and get to work. Finally my brain/mind refused to work, I could not remember things, calling the same person 3 times. Again I went to an exorcist (very recommended) who told me I had one evil entity and a strong course was on me, he said he is surprised I was working so hard, it should have knocked me down, I do not know if it is true or not. He said he freed me of these and I could really feel a big relieve and rise of energy, but the original sensation did not disappear. I went to the Reiki friend again, told her I was freed of attachments and asked her for few healing sessions and Reiki initiation again. She agreed. She gave Reiki and she was soo surprised. She was totally exhausted after it. She said she had given me enormous amount of energy, that I had a huge holes (breaches) in my head, especially under my eyes. She was sorry she did not give me an initiation when I came the first time, and she agreed to give it to me this time, after few healing sessions. After first session I felt beautiful, soo much better, it was such a relief, even though the evil vibrations persisted inside me, they were much weaker, and I was much stronger.

Two day later she was supposed to give me Reiki at the distance. Then she called me and said that the Reiki energy started flowing and after few minutes it stopped, she did not understand, what happened. So we agreed another personal meeting, but the day before it, she called me and said she had to cancel it, since she became very ill, had high temperature. So we agreed I would come for Reiki initiation on Sunday, without healing sessions first. I was supposed to get it in 2 parts. I went for the first meeting and received the first part of the initiation (she gave me two symbols), again I felt enormous difference in my energy and started to get hope of getting rid of the problem. And again she felt exhausted afterwards and I felt ashamed of myself and sorry for giving her so much trouble. I paid her money and we agreed to meet again after a week for the second part.

Few days later she called me, she said she will not give me the second part of the initiation, that she and her family was attacked, that she is afraid she will end up in the asylum, that if was to her only, she would face anything, but not to her family. She did not want to tell me, what exactly happened, but she said she wants to give me my money back and fast. I agreed and went to her place to get the money and I wanted to talk to her, but she did not want me in her place, she waited for me in the street. We only talked a little bit, she did not want me to explain anything (and if she wanted to, I would not know what to tell her). I asked her if attacks go on and she said they stopped because she promised she would not give Reiki to anybody anymore, and that she does not want to talk about it, that she is in such a pain and fear. I can’t even start explaining how I feel about it now. How would I ever expect anything like this happen?

All this happened about 3 weeks ago. I need to add, that I know one man who is interested in the knowledge of this forum, we used to meet regularly in the beginning (when I felt wonderful) and talked about it, then we separated and now we started to meet regularly again. It is a very complicated relationship, it would take another post to explain this, enough to say I have reasons to believe he is somebody like my partner to work with. And the obstacles for us to come together were big, both external (like stopping the phone connection every 3 seconds) and mental (mostly on his part). He has a connection with a strong energy source and I know how it sounds. He used to use this connection in the STS mode, being a healer with an enormous ego (he just worked as an STS agent to lead people astray, although he believed he was helping them and leading to God).

He now dropped it all and came back to work with me. He became my personal network. Before I did not want him to use his energy on me (well, I did in the beginning, but then I decided not to), because I could see him heavily asleep so I expected his energy was coming from the STS source. Now after 2 years of us talking (with a break), it looks like his attitude changed and he is sincerely ready and willing to work, according to what I see. I know it is not an argument, but I always felt him as somebody to work with. Besides, my condition was so bad, I felt I had nothing to lose, so I asked him to help me. He can feel energies in somebody’s body, connects with his source of energy and it flows simultaneously through both of us. He calls it current. So we met and he let the current flow through me, it helped me a lot, he said the current unclogged me and my energy started to flow again. For sure it stabilized me, I slept calmly through the night and woke up much better. And at night the day we met, he also was attacked at his place. He did not tell me exactly what happened, but he told me about something/somebody trying to materialize in front of him.

Now I remember the first time I met him after the break, was soon after the first part of the initiation, because when I met him next time, he told me about the attack, and I told him about an attack on my Reiki friend. Then we met again and I felt much better again. I cannot be sure what source he is connected to, but it helps me a lot, so that is my choice. I must add, that the strange vibrations never stops, when I say I feel better it means I feel energized and calm, but the sensation (movement in my face and vibrations in my body) always lasts with different intensity. We made a team, I share my knowledge and understanding with him (whatever I possess) and he helps me with my energies. So after we met twice, I felt quite well as for myself, and was regaining strength and gaining hope. One day (actually it was 2 days ago) I felt quite normal and was happy with it, and I was going by tram to my friend, whom I give English lessons. All of the sudden I felt sick, like I wanted to vomit, and felt very bad inside. Still I went to this friend, everything was going bad, coffee machine went broken, internet did not work properly, my friend became so sleepy, she could not keep her head straight. After this I was supposed meet this friend I work with, when I got there I was half dead, my mind did not work again, I did not really remember what I was supposed to tell him. This time unclogging me took him very long time, it was much harder then previous 2 times. He said I was hit very strongly, my energy was like moved, relocated, I do not know if it is true. Eventually my energy started flowing again. It was yesterday.

Today I got up feeling as if a train run over me. I felt I cannot cope anymore. For many hours I was unable to do anything at all. I do not know why I wrote it here, because what can you do about it, but when I sat down to give myself Reiki, I felt a strong urge to write this post. And I even feel much better now. I always wanted to share my problems with you, but before the attack on the Reiki friend, I thought I had nothing convincing to tell you so that you could believe me that it is not just demons and me imagining things, I was afraid you would just ask me, what my diet is. :D

Still where else could I share it if not here and I am glad I did it, maybe you can find some advice or explanation for me. I am sorry it is such a long post.
 
Hi Jasminum,
Sorry to hear that you have been going through such a rough experience.

Have you had a chance to look at the new videos made on the topic of spirit release therapy? Here are the forum discussion topics on these videos
http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic,32946.0.html
http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic,32957.0.html
http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic,33011.0.html

You wrote you have been to SRT sessions - you can compare your experience during and after the session with what Laura describes in the videos. This way you can perhaps increase your knowledge and awareness of this process.

You mentioned that the vibrating sensations that you feel are always present. Have you tried seeing a neurologist or a chiropractor/osteopath in your area to check out if there are any physiological issues which can be addressed? It may be useful to have such a consultation - if nothing else, at least it can rule out any underlying physical issues.

You wrote that you were trying to do the full EE program every day at some point of time. Don't know if you are still doing this - but maybe sticking to the suggested 2 times a week full program on Monday and Thursday, the Prayer Of the Soul every night before sleep and pipe breathing whenever possible may be useful.

The anomalous experiences with the phone is something that is often reported in high strangeness related experiences. I think your attitude of not getting scared by it is good. We cannot directly prevent such things from happening; so the only thing in our control in this respect is to try and control our emotions and maintaining a balanced attitude.

Regarding your experiences with the Reiki teacher, is she the same teacher who gave you the first initiation? You said that the problems started after the first initiation. Do you know which lineage she belongs to? Some reiki teachers use different symbols than the traditional Usui method and the general consensus in the forum here is to stick to traditional reiki symbols. I believe this website is regarded as having the correct Usui reiki symbols
_http://www.aetw.org/reiki_symbols.html

There are quite a few discussions on reiki on this forum; here are a couple
http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic,15726.0.html
http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=1896.0

Lastly, even though you were dreading the question still it is worth asking - how is your diet? Diet does play a role in maintaining the overall well-being of a person and if someone is eating/drinking stuff that causes inflammatory reactions or other issues, then that person is likely to be more vulnerable to problems from other sources.

Hang in there jasminum; hope things improve soon.
 
Hi Obyvatel, thanks for your reply.

obyvatel said:
Lastly, even though you were dreading the question still it is worth asking - how is your diet? Diet does play a role in maintaining the overall well-being of a person and if someone is eating/drinking stuff that causes inflammatory reactions or other issues, then that person is likely to be more vulnerable to problems from other sources.
This is not what I meant by saying: “I always wanted to share my problems with you, but before the attack on the Reiki friend, I thought I had nothing convincing to tell you so that you could believe me that it is not just demons and me imagining things, I was afraid you would just ask me, what my diet is.” I meant that I was afraid you would not take it seriously and believe, that I am being attacked, but that you would put it down to my diet, demons/attachments, neurological problems, etc., since I have noticed that is what usually happens when somebody says they are being attacked. And I wish you were right, still I know you are not, although all these probably add to the problem. And my diet is not really good, I stopped eating all gluten products about a month ago and at that time I also changed sugar into Xylitol. I have an understanding of how important it is, no excuses for me, I simply could not manage to do earlier.

The anomalous experiences with the phone is something that is often reported in high strangeness related experiences. I think your attitude of not getting scared by it is good. We cannot directly prevent such things from happening; so the only thing in our control in this respect is to try and control our emotions and maintaining a balanced attitude.

This was just one example of what is going on all the time around me. Do you mean that it is the demons causing this? It could be. But would you also tell that demons blocked all Cass pages, including this forum on my computer (actually my ID, because I could not enter them from my son’s PC as well). And all websites where the name Laura Knight Jadczyk appeared? Nothing more, just these sites.
And would you say, that my demons (and/or my nervous system) attacked Reiki Master in such a forceful way, that she gave up giving Reiki to anyone out of fear? If I am a possessor of such a powerful demons, then I am doomed. :)

Have you had a chance to look at the new videos made on the topic of spirit release therapy?

I have not watched them yet, but I have read a lot from Laura and on the forum about this subject, I also went through William Baldwin book about 3 kinds of possessions (including being possessed by aliens). I will watch the videos soon, thank you.

You mentioned that the vibrating sensations that you feel are always present. Have you tried seeing a neurologist or a chiropractor/osteopath in your area to check out if there are any physiological issues which can be addressed? It may be useful to have such a consultation - if nothing else, at least it can rule out any underlying physical issues.

I spent half a year to find a good Reiki teacher from a direct Usui Reiki line. The ones I have chosen (a couple) were also recommended by somebody on this forum. Actually there was another forum member at the first initiation. I did not say it all started after first initiation, I must have been unclear. The first initiation helped me a lot and the first attack came after about half a year later. The second initiation (the first part of it) I got from the student of theirs, so she is the next in the same line. I got to know her in their place. And the initiation also helped me a lot, I could even say it rescued me and put me on track again.

I realize that whatever is going on, it is me who at some level allowed it to happen. I have been observing everything closely and became much more sensitive to energies and went through (analyzed) my whole life from that point of view. The conclusion is that all these were going on right from my childhood, only in a much milder (hidden) scale, and I always attributed these sensations to myself, that they were originated from my own emotions. I also lacked any knowledge to believe otherwise.
 
jasminum said:
Hi Obyvatel, thanks for your reply.

obyvatel said:
Lastly, even though you were dreading the question still it is worth asking - how is your diet? Diet does play a role in maintaining the overall well-being of a person and if someone is eating/drinking stuff that causes inflammatory reactions or other issues, then that person is likely to be more vulnerable to problems from other sources.
This is not what I meant by saying: “I always wanted to share my problems with you, but before the attack on the Reiki friend, I thought I had nothing convincing to tell you so that you could believe me that it is not just demons and me imagining things, I was afraid you would just ask me, what my diet is.” I meant that I was afraid you would not take it seriously and believe, that I am being attacked, but that you would put it down to my diet, demons/attachments, neurological problems, etc., since I have noticed that is what usually happens when somebody says they are being attacked. And I wish you were right, still I know you are not, although all these probably add to the problem. And my diet is not really good, I stopped eating all gluten products about a month ago and at that time I also changed sugar into Xylitol. I have an understanding of how important it is, no excuses for me, I simply could not manage to do earlier.

The way I see it, when anyone is having problems, the priority is to get into a physical, mental and emotional state that would enable the person to face it with maximum awareness and ability that can be mustered. That is why the basics like diet, medical checkup are suggested. It does not mean that the person is not being taken seriously - rather it is a way of helping the person by asking them to pay attention to the foundations. We have some collective experience here that such an approach often works. Sometimes it is the starting point, and sometimes cleaning up the diet and getting some proper medical treatment can even stop undesired anomalous experiences.

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The anomalous experiences with the phone is something that is often reported in high strangeness related experiences. I think your attitude of not getting scared by it is good. We cannot directly prevent such things from happening; so the only thing in our control in this respect is to try and control our emotions and maintaining a balanced attitude.

This was just one example of what is going on all the time around me. Do you mean that it is the demons causing this? It could be. But would you also tell that demons blocked all Cass pages, including this forum on my computer (actually my ID, because I could not enter them from my son’s PC as well). And all websites where the name Laura Knight Jadczyk appeared? Nothing more, just these sites.
And would you say, that my demons (and/or my nervous system) attacked Reiki Master in such a forceful way, that she gave up giving Reiki to anyone out of fear? If I am a possessor of such a powerful demons, then I am doomed. :)
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What we refer to as "high strangeness" , per my understanding, includes anomalous experiences that have been reported by different people. Unexplained phone-related anomalies are sometimes part of such experiences, as reported among others by researcher John Keel in his books on paranormal phenomena.

Problems with electronic appliances including computers also sometimes accompany such phenomena. Given our state of knowledge, it is very difficult, if not impossible, to say for sure what exactly is causing these things. In my opinion, keeping note of all that is happening - including synchronous events - is an useful thing to do. We can have tentative hypothesis about what could be causing such things but we need to remember that we cannot be sure - so it is best to not get locked into any particular theory.

What you said about the Reiki master is one possibility. Human mind is suggestible - some more than others. So it could also be possible that her problems may not have been caused completely by her association with you, even though both of you appear to think so based on the personal demon hypothesis. From what you have written, both the reiki master and the male acquaintance of yours who reported attacks were told of the possibility of attachments and attacks by you before they faced such attacks.
It is a difficult thing to do - and I am not sure if I am expressing myself clearly here - but in such cases, it is probably best to walk that middle line between the two extremes of ignoring the possibility of non-physical attacks on the one hand and thinking people are being attacked because of you on the other hand.

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I realize that whatever is going on, it is me who at some level allowed it to happen. I have been observing everything closely and became much more sensitive to energies and went through (analyzed) my whole life from that point of view. The conclusion is that all these were going on right from my childhood, only in a much milder (hidden) scale, and I always attributed these sensations to myself, that they were originated from my own emotions. I also lacked any knowledge to believe otherwise.
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I think taking responsibility is a good thing and helps look actively for solutions. You seem to have done quite a bit in the direction of energy healing and spirit releasement efforts to solve your problem. Maybe focusing more on diet, EE, pipe breathing, and gaining more knowledge about spirit release therapy through the new videos, and learning about how our minds work from the cognitive psychology section of the forum may be worth considering. Also, in my opinion, considering some body oriented therapy may be worthwhile. If you have had similar physiological sensations since childhood, and if it is related to some structural imbalance, an osteopath or chiropractor may be able to help. Cranio-sacral therapy is another type of therapy that may be helpful to look into in this regard. It focuses on the head and face area and is said to be very gentle.

fwiw
 
I'd like to second what obyvatel has said. I had plenty of high strangeness going on for many years, and focusing on EE, dietary changes and gaining and applying knowledge has helped reduce any occurrences. In fact I think the last highstrangenes occurrence was over a year ago.

One thing that may cause the buzzing is artificial sweeteners - sugar substitutes (although rare for xylotol it's possible it may). So make sure you aren't drinking anything that has sweeteners in them.
Stress and anxiety can also highten such sensations, so pipe breathing will help.

On of the biggest helps was realizing that actually working on the practical 3d things has an impact on the 'unseen'. That you can actually do something practical to solve the problem is of great relief.
 
I realize that whatever is going on, it is me who at some level allowed it to happen. I have been observing everything closely and became much more sensitive to energies and went through (analyzed) my whole life from that point of view. The conclusion is that all these were going on right from my childhood, only in a much milder (hidden) scale, and I always attributed these sensations to myself, that they were originated from my own emotions. I also lacked any knowledge to believe otherwise.

Hi jasminum, I'd like to chime in as I've also been experiencing some similar problems, though not nearly as intense. Strange that this comes out after the release of the spirit release videos, isn't it?

I'm going through a similar process as you describe, with the sensation that I've been "globbed on" by some nasty entity[ies]. Therefore I can second the advice that the others have given you and recommend that, as a sign that you're in it to win it, you make the changes to your health first and speak with your actions. Let your actions tell those nasty boogers that they're going to have to find another source of suffering cuz you're not going to comply.

You say that, on some level, you "allowed" this to happen. I'm not sure you should accept that as a fact, since a cat does not "allow" the dog to eat its food when the dog is simply bigger and meaner. When confronted with something as strange as this it's probably a good time to start questioning one's assumptions and apply a more critical, logical, and scientific method to what's going on. As Obvyatel said, taking notes of what's going on (mood swings, high strangeness, etc) and the time they're occurring plus whatever other useful information comes to your head could prove very valuable for your progress. Who knows what questions you could come up with when the picture comes together :)

I would add not to make any big decisions until you've dealt with this problem, at least not without a lot of objective input. And make sure that you're getting plenty of rest. Though you may feel compelled to fight with everything you've got it's often much better to avoid stress and just learn as much as possible while going on with your life. Give yourself time to digest what you're learning too. :flowers: As Edith Fiore writes in "The Unquiet Dead", exhaustion is something that brings one's spiritual defenses down. Therefore, if she is right, it is probably best to give yourself plenty of time to recover, and with self-compassion of course! After all, you've essentially just come down with a pretty bad case of the spiritual flu. Take your daily dose of knowledge, get plenty of rest, and keep an eye on the bigger picture of your life and the world. As my stepdad told me once "stop spinning your wheels and rest".

And I recommend keeping your reason for living in your heart. For example, when I'm feeling tremendously harassed I just have to think of my sister. For some reason just the thought of her dispels all of my fears, because I know I always want to be strong for her, to make the world a better place for her. It's been that way since childhood. And when I think of her and what she's symbolized for me since our youth (we have a wonderful black and white picture of her outside on the front lawn mooning the family, me clutching my big belly while I'm laughing hysterically, and our Golden Retriever puppy looking on bewildered) I know that "this too shall pass". And I take the steps necessary to make sure it does. Without stress, without fear, but with a little excitement and some righteous anger now and then :)

On of the biggest helps was realizing that actually working on the practical 3d things has an impact on the 'unseen'. That you can actually do something practical to solve the problem is of great relief.

Yes, a great relief. You can do it.

As a bit of emotional support, how about Tom Petty tells us how it is?

"I Won't Back Down"

_http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUTXb-ga1fo
 
Would just like to add that I have been the recipient of high-tech-sounding screeching noises on my phone as well. And they would certainly have been less affecting if I wasn't already in a state of high emotional arousal given the things that were going on in my life at just those two times that the screeching occurred. So I know where you are coming from I think, and I know that they can disturbing. What has helped me get through those times, and others, was to continue with "knowledge input on a regular basis". I felt that reading and learning and sharing more about this very strange world we live in was something of a life line for me. If knowledge has all-substance then we can literally say that we are adding substance to ourselves or adding to our 'glowing coat of awareness' as Castaneda would say. So continuing with and maybe even ramping up your reading and networking here further jasminum, is, I would suggest, a very good thing that you are doing right now.

On the subject of diet, it seems not only to be foundational to our good health on a basic 3d level, but may also have protective qualities at other levels.
The following may have some relevance:

Q: (Ark) Well, once we are on this subject, I want to ask about these mathematicians. Yesterday I learned that from my mathematician friend in Poland about the death of - in our Kairos club - a young mathematician Branson. And apparently he was quite young and for no reason suddenly he died driving a car. (L) In an accident? (Ark) No, while he was driving. Now, he was a friend of the German mathematician who worked with Irving Segal, the young guy that drowned in Clausthal in the lake. There was a conference, and they went for a swim in the lake. People were on the shore watching, and he just sank in seconds and that was all. He was also like 20-some years old. Then we had this Pertti Lounesto, the same club, related to the same area of mathematics, who drowned in the sea a few months after we saw him at the conference {in Cookville, Tennessee}. Okay, and then we had the Russian mathematician who was doing also similar work, and he went to the Black sea for vacation and he drowned. All these young people died, and they are all mathematicians doing very abstract work. It's too many of them to have drowned just by accident. I mean, what kind of coincidence is it? Any comment?

A: It is not a coincidence. It is too bad that so many who are on the right track in so many ways do not have the advantage of knowing about those things that would shield them from frequency driven attacks; such things as diet changes that would protect them from direct manipulation; things such as awareness of other densities. But, of course this last item would have come to their notice.

So it seems that there may be more to doing the diet, especially where our frv is concerned, than meets the eye.
 
Would just like to add that I have been the recipient of high-tech-sounding screeching noises on my phone as well.

It's just a minor detail in this complex state of affairs but as far as I know high pitched screeching noises on your phone usually are just high speed data lines (from computer to computer) which you just happen to intercept (mostly from wrong number dialing). It used to be mainly fax line connections in the old days but nowadays it can be virtually any data transfer that uses sound coding. FWIW.

Hope this helps a bit. :)
 
Palinurus said:
Would just like to add that I have been the recipient of high-tech-sounding screeching noises on my phone as well.

It's just a minor detail in this complex state of affairs but as far as I know high pitched screeching noises on your phone usually are just high speed data lines (from computer to computer) which you just happen to intercept (mostly from wrong number dialing). It used to be mainly fax line connections in the old days but nowadays it can be virtually any data transfer that uses sound coding. FWIW.

Yes, it's certainly possible. As we know from Strangers to Ourselves, You are not so Smart, and the other books discussed in the cognitive science threads, our minds can and do attribute all sorts of meanings to things that are quite often false. Having said that, both times I heard the noise I was on the phone with someone and had gotten highly distressing news; the sounds were experienced like punctuation marks and the timing to these could not have been worse. At the end of the day it seems like too much of a coincidence, but I know I don't know for a fact what the source of them were.
 
Hey jasminum, I'm sorry you are having these issues and I'm sure you've have read the experiences of others here on this forum that have been through similar (maybe not as intense) situations. Further, if you've read through some of the wave i'm sure you've seen the seemingly insurmountable experiences laura went through on her journey for truth.

That being said there are some points that I would like to re-iterate. Fwiw. This response of yours really stood out to me.

This is not what I meant by saying: “I always wanted to share my problems with you, but before the attack on the Reiki friend, I thought I had nothing convincing to tell you so that you could believe me that it is not just demons and me imagining things, I was afraid you would just ask me, what my diet is.” I meant that I was afraid you would not take it seriously and believe, that I am being attacked, but that you would put it down to my diet, demons/attachments, neurological problems, etc., since I have noticed that is what usually happens when somebody says they are being attacked. And I wish you were right, still I know you are not, although all these probably add to the problem. And my diet is not really good, I stopped eating all gluten products about a month ago and at that time I also changed sugar into Xylitol. I have an understanding of how important it is, no excuses for me, I simply could not manage to do earlier.

I think it may be useful to remember that many forum members place diet at the top of the priority list for good reason. Yes improving what you put in your body really is, simply, just good for your body. But what if it also added some form of psychical protection as well? In that case for one to discount it as saying "oh it's not my diet" would be exactly what the predator/STS/attachment would want. For you to be ignorant of the fact that incorrect diet would increase their dominion over you. Again this is conjecture but given that we have very little details on the mechanics of such paranormal experiences and interactions, i think it may be wise to cover all bases.

There is a lot of information that is coming out through research both paranormal and mainstream. Some of which point to the fact that a poor diet does your body harm on many different levels. Not just the ones you can readily deduce. I've been thinking lately that the more your own awareness increase the less others are able to siphon from you. Others could theoretically (if they exist) be 4th Density STS, ignorant spirit attachement, etc. If eating grains, lots of carbs, and no healthy fats suppresses awareness and keeps the brain cloudy just imagine how that certain individual would appear to an entity that feeds off of beings that have weak spots or openings.

Keeping with this line of thought. I thought the quotes previously posted, made by the C's was very apt. However, I would like to proffer this quote as well from the book "30 Years Among the dead" (one of the books laura recommended on her videos pertaining to a Course of Knowledge & being.
Dr. = Doctor conducting experiment
Sp. = Spirit speaking through his wife (medium)

Sp. What foolish questions you put to me.
Dr. It may seem foolish to you, but, nevertheless, there is a spirit world. Spiritual things
often seem foolish to the mortal mind. You have lost your body.
Sp. I have not lost my body. I have been with this lady, but she does one thing I do not
like very well. She eats too much. She eats too much and gets too strong, then I have no
power over her body, not as much as I want to. (To Mrs. B.) I want you to eat less. I try
very much to dictate to you not to eat that and that, but you have no sense. You do not
even listen to me.


Even in this account the supposed spirit attachment/obsessing spirit loses power when the "attachee" gains strength through what (or I guess in this case the amount ) she eats. This may not fit well or be out of context but it, coupled with the others may lend it some usefulness.
 
Thank you all for your help. I was soo exhausted last 2 days, that most of the time I spent in bed sleeping. I was not able to write any posts, although I read yours. I just wrote it now it so that you know my silence was not because of my lack of appreciation for your effort. Quite a contrary, I really do appreciate it. Thank you all. And by the way I feel much better now. Just interacting with you made me feel better. :D
As to whether I am/was attacked by something else then attachments, I am still not sure, but at least I am sure, that I really do not know what it was. Still I have doubts I hope you can bear with me and explain a bit farther.

obyvatel said:
Problems with electronic appliances including computers also sometimes accompany such phenomena. Given our state of knowledge, it is very difficult, if not impossible, to say for sure what exactly is causing these things. In my opinion, keeping note of all that is happening - including synchronous events - is an useful thing to do. We can have tentative hypothesis about what could be causing such things but we need to remember that we cannot be sure - so it is best to not get locked into any particular theory.

Well, yes, I can understand that problems with electronic appliances or internet may appear, but how about cutting me off from all Laura’s websites? This rather looks like purposeful thing done by somebody. One night I was reading the forum, next day in the morning I could not open Laura’s sites, and only them.

What you said about the Reiki master is one possibility. Human mind is suggestible - some more than others. So it could also be possible that her problems may not have been caused completely by her association with you, even though both of you appear to think so based on the personal demon hypothesis. From what you have written, both the reiki master and the male acquaintance of yours who reported attacks were told of the possibility of attachments and attacks by you before they faced such attacks.

But is not a strange coincidence that two persons I contacted to get help from were attacked afterwards? Would the minds of the two of them were so suggestible that they would experience the same I did? As to male acquaintance, yes, I told him a lot, because he already knows a lot about Laura’s work.

But the reiki lady, first, she does not know what I do at all, secondly she was not afraid of demons. She gave me reiki before, when I first contacted her, even though I told her I have some attachments. She only refused to give me second initiation before I am clean of them. And when I came the second time I told her, I was cleaned, because that is what I was told by the exorcist. She could see the difference in my energy, was surprised, but she gave me reiki session and intended to give me more of them, and agreed to give me initiation. So what would it mean precisely, that she was suggestible? That she somehow caused it herself? Or a kind of illusion? What did you mean by that?

Actually before this event I did not know what I was experiencing (still do not know). When I went to this famous exorcist, I hoped I would be freed, and I was freed of something, because I felt better, but the nasty vibrations immediately became stronger. I called him, and he said, that I am clean, but I live in the past and connect to old patterns, that is why I bring them back (something like this). He asked me not to think about it and everything will be fine (suggestibility again). I believed he might be right (although I was not sure) and tried to apply his advice. So when I went to the reiki lady, I told her, I was free of attachments. And I believed so. Though I suspected I might be connected to some device, I did not tell her.

The way I see it, when anyone is having problems, the priority is to get into a physical, mental and emotional state that would enable the person to face it with maximum awareness and ability that can be mustered. That is why the basics like diet, medical checkup are suggested.
I am aware of the importance of diet, maybe I am not really that aware, but I do know it. And I know there are no excuses for me, but I did not manage to do it earlier, so many things to do. Still, as I said, I dropped all gluten about a month ago I will stick to it now, I promise. And a medical checkup is a good advice as well, as I am sure after being drained so much (by whatever it was) I must be missing some minerals etc.
 
Hesper said:
You say that, on some level, you "allowed" this to happen. I'm not sure you should accept that as a fact, since a cat does not "allow" the dog to eat its food when the dog is simply bigger and meaner. When confronted with something as strange as this it's probably a good time to start questioning one's assumptions and apply a more critical, logical, and scientific method to what's going on. As Obvyatel said, taking notes of what's going on (mood swings, high strangeness, etc) and the time they're occurring plus whatever other useful information comes to your head could prove very valuable for your progress. Who knows what questions you could come up with when the picture comes together :)

I would add not to make any big decisions until you've dealt with this problem, at least not without a lot of objective input. And make sure that you're getting plenty of rest. Though you may feel compelled to fight with everything you've got it's often much better to avoid stress and just learn as much as possible while going on with your life. Give yourself time to digest what you're learning too. :flowers: As Edith Fiore writes in "The Unquiet Dead", exhaustion is something that brings one's spiritual defenses down. Therefore, if she is right, it is probably best to give yourself plenty of time to recover, and with self-compassion of course! After all, you've essentially just come down with a pretty bad case of the spiritual flu. Take your daily dose of knowledge, get plenty of rest, and keep an eye on the bigger picture of your life and the world. As my stepdad told me once "stop spinning your wheels and rest".

.............

As a bit of emotional support, how about Tom Petty tells us how it is?

"I Won't Back Down"

_http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUTXb-ga1fo

Thank you for the emotional support and concern, I can sense from your post, Hesper. And thank you for the music. :D
When I said I allowed this to happen I mean I know I am not at the level to not allow this to happen. Poor diet, not enough knowledge, awareness, generally my frequency is not STO enough to protect me, and that gives this nasty something access to me. As Gurdjieff said: There is no injustice. Even if it sad for me, I must have caused it somehow.
I can also see some benefits of the situation, although I’d rather it would never happen. It forced me to mobilize all may strength, I worked on my programs and emotions in such difficult circumstances, like Rocky. Because I could not even imagine what would happen to me, if I surrendered. So you can say I was fighting out of fear. :)
And even though in the end I felt I could not cope anymore, still I know that I am stronger and not so easily threatened as before.
 
Hi Jasminum.

Sounds like you've had some pretty intense experiences, and I'm not tryin to dismiss those, just offering some additional thoughts. It's not always easy to determine if something "planned" is really going, or if we are just tying to see and connect things that really aren't there. Often, excessive physical and mental stress (due to various reasons) can make us "hyper vigilant". At least that is my experience.

For example, being a reiki teacher myself, I know that many reiki practitioners have a "new agey" attitude where they are not scared of the dark side because they think that "all you need is love" or that by not acknowledging evil in the world it makes it go away. I don't know if this is the case with your reiki lady, but it just could be that by meeting you and hearing your story, her illusion is being shattered, causing her distress and thus she is reacting/thinking emotionally. Some reiki teachers are even worse, in the sense that they portray themselves as great warriors between good and evil, seeing themselves as magicians. They then overly dramatize things, like the one I heard of who "came with her colleagues in your sleep to explain things and help fight the evil spirits". Your reiki lady might be creating "big drama" just to self induce some kind of higher/magical meaning in her life. I've seen this happen.

Take care, and keep us updated with how things are going.
 
Aragorn said:
Hi Jasminum.

For example, being a reiki teacher myself, I know that many reiki practitioners have a "new agey" attitude where they are not scared of the dark side because they think that "all you need is love" or that by not acknowledging evil in the world it makes it go away. I don't know if this is the case with your reiki lady, but it just could be that by meeting you and hearing your story, her illusion is being shattered, causing her distress and thus she is reacting/thinking emotionally. Some reiki teachers are even worse, in the sense that they portray themselves as great warriors between good and evil, seeing themselves as magicians. They then overly dramatize things, like the one I heard of who "came with her colleagues in your sleep to explain things and help fight the evil spirits". Your reiki lady might be creating "big drama" just to self induce some kind of higher/magical meaning in her life. I've seen this happen.

Take care, and keep us updated with how things are going.

Yes, it seems that might be the case. The reiki lady is certainly "new agey", believing in "all you need is love", so she must have been troubled by my case, she did not understand what could possibly cause such a damage in me. As I said, when I visited her for the first time, she said my energy is very harmonious and subtle. And after the last session she told me she thinks that probably at that time I was closed to reiki and I did not receive it, so she did not actually feel my energy at all and that is why she felt if harmonious. This is how she tried to make sense of it. But I did feel reiki flowing in me very intensely so I did receive it (or so I think). And the reiki couple said the same thing. It could be helpful if we knew what actually happened to her, what scared her so much. Thanks for sharing your understanding with me.
 
A week ago, on Sunday I had a second SRT session with Patrick Rodriguez, who works with medium, Heather. The first one was only about releasing entities and healing. There was a tread about Patrick and Heather here,
http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic,33064.msg462381.html#msg462381
but the session adds sense and clarifies a lot of what I wrote in my initial post, so I put it here.

Unfortunately I did not understand much during the session, it is difficult for me to understand spoken American especially on the phone. I understood quite a lot of what Patrick says, but understanding Heather is much more difficult. Patrick recorded the session and sent it to me, I did my best to transcribe parts of it which I feel can put a new light on my post. I believe you will find it interesting, especially the second part. Although a lot is missing (I will just put dots, where I do not understand, and if I am not 100% sure of the word, I will put (??). There also might be some mistakes ), it is still possible to make sense out of it.
What Patrick calls workers is what people usually call demons.
P = Patrick
H = Heather

H: There is a pink background with a blue floor and there is a tree, a white tree, and there is a monkey on this tree.
P: Yes. Anything else?
H: Looks like it has red hair.
P: The metaphor, you think, is a pink background, and then a blue floor. Anything significant or special about the floor.
H: The white tree is coming out of it.
P: When you used the word floor, I think…
H: Manmade,
P: Ok, manmade.
H: And the tree is coming out of it.
P: And then there is a white tree.
H: Yes.
P: And then a red monkey.
H: Yes.
P: Does that monkey has red eyes?
H: Looks like yes. Everything is red about it.
P: Ok, take a look at this.
P: So you see, that the white tree is coming out of a manmade floor, right?
H: Yes. It is a kind of strange.
P: So pink background we do have healing still in progress, so that is really often. Pink we consider a healing color, ………………….. low level fear, but in this case I think it is healing. Blue floor I am getting it symbol of solid communication, it is the basis of communication is getting very solid. But it is labored, it is manmade, it is not natural. It is labored communication, it is very …………
That makes me believe, that communication with herself is getting much stronger, and that is not yet natural, I think it is in process.
The white tree. Trees themselves have a lot of symbolism, tree of life……...........
White tree I would take that to be a color of purity. And symbolism of it coming out of communication, out of a manmade floor… I am guessing that there is purity of that tree. And then we have the red monkey, which is red eyed monkey typically symbol of workers. So I am guessing these particular workers, in symbolized by the monkey …………….. trying to get your attention, because of the purity of coming up in communication. That would be my first guess.
P: H go ahead and take a closer look at the monkey.
H: It is there, but it is kind of not there, it is a kind of outside looking in, the energy is there but like it is not on the inside. Does it make sense?
P: Yes, it does make sense. That means it did not have a very strong grip on the energy of the tree. So that means that the tree itself can be symbolic of her, that she is the tree. In other words what we are looking at now is, what now I believe is that she is the tree and her purity is starting to come up more. The monkey once was in the tree, monkeys live in trees, and as a result of her ……….. getting stronger, now it is kind of being pushed to the outside. Does that resonate?
H: Yes.
P: And that is why the monkey is so upset. She got…………. out of home.
P: Ok, tell me what else………
H: [I do not understand conversation here, just 2 bits I do understand]
Trying to attach to divine connection ……………….
She detached that connection …………..

P: If I remember correctly we had something very similar in her last session which makes complete sense, which is really good. And we have multiple energies, multiple workers, multiple fallen angels, all attached at the same way. The good part about it is that ………. they all start to get ……. and life gets better exponentially. That is the good thing.

Taking to monkey:
P: Hello there.
H: It is basically saying, that it got evicted.
P: I am very sorry to hear that. You look very busy and I do not mean to take up your time, but I am curious, what is it that you do here?
H: We need to do our job and our job is …………….
P: I see. I am curios. I imagine that you don’t do your job all the time. When is it that you feel the need to do the job.
H: When we need to cause the disconnect to the divinity (??).
P: If I understand you correctly, when she starts to feel that connection, that is when you and your team know it is time to get busy, is that right?
H: Yes, and we are failing.
P: And you are failing. I see. Well, I am sorry to hear that. When did you get evicted ?
H: ………………
P: I see. Well, I guess I’ll live you to get back to work. Thank you very much for taking your time to talk to us.
H: I do not know if I ever be able to come back.
P: I guess we will see.
H: ……….

Now Patrick is going to talk to a fallen angel.
P: H, can you give me any info before we going.
H: ………….. share on that connection, the divine connection. ………………
P: Ok. H, are you ready?
H: Yes.
P: Greetings, angel.
H: ……… the connection is severed from this one.
P: I do not believe it has been severed per say. …………. your connection in the first place. Would you like for me to do this?
H: Ok.
P: First of all you came at a time when she needed you, you came at a time when her own divinity connection was too much for her, and for that I sincerely thank you on her behalf.
H: ……………
P: ………….. you made it ……… it would be very difficult for her to connect to the divine, at that time that she did not want that connection.
H: He said that now she disconnected from me.
P: …………….the reason for what seems to be a severing of a connection. The reason for the severing of a connection is because you recognizes, you can never………… of the divine, it is always there. And who would know that more than an angel that was once in perfect alignment with the Creator.
And I understand that pain was so much, that you chose a different path. I could not even imagine the pain you face every moment.
H: …………
P: I understand and I also know the only way out of your pain, the only way you will ever end this is to look again on the Creator. I invite your ……………. now, extend the call and bring forth the energy of the invitation to come home. Can you hear them?
H: ……………...
P: Would you end your own pain…………….. ?
H: This would be…………. but I do not want to lose, what I learn.
P: I understand. And I call now upon your ………….. who were once just like you, fallen in a grace of God and returned and I ask them to impart upon you their………….., their knowledge and their sense of being.
P: And will you rejoin your brothers?
H: Yes.
P: We wish you well, angel.

Now Patrick calls angels to come and guide workers or/and spirits home, then healing process on me.

H: I am getting an energetic sense of hardware.
P: Ok. Keep going.
H: It seems to be around the crown and solar plexus.
P: Around the crown and solar plexus, good.
H: They are there for ……….. intuitions ………..
P: I do not think I heard you correctly. They are there for?
H: ……….. inspiration or emotions or………
P: They are there for spencing (????) emotions?
H: Yea. At a distance. A huge distance.
P: Are you aware, that we are dealing with the alien staff right now?
H: Yes.
P: ……………….. no more stuff, no big deal. What we have already seen with jasminum is that she has a very strong connection with her own divine self. So what we’ve seen then is, what is placed in the crown is for observation of that connection. Signals going back and forth.
P: Does that make sense? Is that what you see?
H: Yes.
P: Can you tell if what’s in the solar plexus is similar like the design ………., is it similar like what it is in the crown. It may or may not be.
H: It is different.
It is different but it is there for the same reason.

Patrick asks Hearher to be a translator, and to be very still and very neutral.

P. Focusing on this energy I am asking to speak to the commander in charge of this ………..
H: What I get is that he is very upset with the results. …………… being blocked (??).
P: What I question to you is would you like the date exchange for the removal of all implants from all incarnations of this one?
H: He would not like those. (??)
P: I understand, but if the date was complete enough, would you need to have the implants? Would you be willing to release all devices, implants, observations and abductions in this one and in all incarnations?
H: Said only if it is as worth as ………
P: I would like to come to an agreement, because I do believe, that the date I can provide is complete. Can we come to an agreement?
H: He says if it is worth as much as you say, ……….
P: And our agreement is all devices, all implants, all observation and all abductions are removed ………….. in this and all incarnations. We are agreed?
H: Agreed.
P: I call on angels now to please bring forth a date set, one that cannot be used to harm ………….
I believe this is sufficient.
H: He says it seems everything is in order, yes.
P: And your end of a bargain, please.
H: ………. are gone.
P: In all incarnations.
H: Yes.
P: I thank you.
H: He says………..
Patrick asks angels to remove any residues and heal the areas that have been affected, etc.
P: I am getting a sense, that some of that stuff is really ………….. down there.
H: Yea.
P: And I am getting a sense that it is not just a crown area, they have stuff in other areas of the body too. Do you have that sense?
H: …………..solar plexus. There is big one.
P: Al right. Let’s take a look at the solar plexus. Tell me what you notice, please.
H: In the sense that is there for the same reason as the others, but the difference is, …………. is like the electrical ……………
P: Is it still there?
H: Yes, ………..
P: Ok, so that is from a different group then.
H: Yes. ………………….
P: I am calling out the commander in charge of this study associated with this device.
H: Yes. He says, why am I being attacked?
P: Oh. My apologies. That is not in any way meant to be an attack. On the contrary I try to be very respectful of your devises.
H: He asks ……………. problem.
P: I would imagine you already done your study to be perfect. …………. fact of the device……… in conflict with the date that you receive.
H: …………..
P: I imagine you can feel for yourself, the devices cause problems for the individual.
H: ……………………
P: I understand and this is my reason for calling you. I would like to offer you the date that you need to complete this study.
H: Yes, if it would be in full.
P: Yes, it would be in full with the exception, no date will be provided to harm our kind. And I do not believe this is your intention. Is it?
H: It isn’t, not really, and they want to deal with it.
P: I understand. Your first question to me was why am I attacking you. My answer is I am not. I do not wish to attack, nor do I wish to be attacked. Is that fair?
H: ……ok……..
P: And so once again I propose to you, …………… of date, with the exception of withholding anything that can harm us and in exchange I would like to please remove all implants, devises, ………., any abductions in this incarnation and all incarnations. Do we have an agreement?
H: Yes.
P: Then I ask angels to please, bring the date that this one needs, withholding……… to harm our kind. And I believe you will find this complete. ………. agreement.
H: Yes.
P: …………….. the agreement?
H: He said it is done.
P: In all incarnations?
H: He said, to the best…….., yes.
P: And I thank you and I wish you well.
H: He said thank you, farewell.
P: Farewell.
P: Yes, most aliens say, they are just here to study, it is not a big deal. That is not nice.

Then Patrick asks angels for healing energy etc., the healing process.

The rest of a session is not that interesting, I think, there were some benevolent spirits, thinking they are my guides, intending to help me, there were fears form past incarnation, I learnt that I feared to be female, to have a body of a woman (never noticed that), the feelings of being unworthy and wanting to be more….. And then a healing process.
At the end Patrick told me, that I will not need the next session.

I will shortly tell the results of the session. Patrick made a perfect job in terms of healing my soul, realising attachments to the Light, etc., I felt enormous relief, a boost of energy (at the time I got to Patrick I was exhausted, no energy left) and it is getting better every day. I feel much smoother inside, growing confidence, growing sense of security and capability to cope with what is to come. No negative emotions emerging. It is like immediate results.

As to aliens, perhaps they disconnected me for the time of the session, as both Patrick and Heather perceived it this way, but after the session I experienced the worst attack ever, as if they turned their devices on max. Perhaps they wanted to undo all the damage done (damage from their point of view, of course). It lasted for that night and the following two days. I survived. I meditate a lot now and it helps. Then “the electric currents” became mild for some time, and again strong attack for two days. And the last two days I feel all right, “currents’ almost gone, very mild. I do not know, what to expect next.

If attacks continue or even if I feel mild ‘currents’, I intend to have another session with Patrick, but I would not want him to again call angels to give aliens date in exchange.
I think Patrick based his way of dealing with aliens on the material by William Baldwin. And his experience seems to prove, that it works, that aliens do release his clients. He was sure, I would not need another session. So it looks like aliens do release some people, perhaps just for the purpose of keeping people (like Patrick) convinced, that they really only collect date. Anyway it did not work in my case and I still believe, that their purpose is cutting me off from this connection. As I said in my initial post, at one moment I started to feel it, and soon afterwards all these began. It is interesting, that both commanders gave a condition, that they would release me IF the date provided was worth it or full. It looks like they are prepared for such conversations. In that way the date can always be considered by them as not worth it or full. It is tricky. So in a way we can say, they told the truth and kept to the agreement, just the date provided were not worth releasing me. Anyway it is funny to imagine angels giving date to aliens. :) What date, that they supposedly collected from me, could be given by angles?

I told Patrick what I think their purpose is, he does not seem to know what to think about it, we exchanged quite a few mails, and are arranging for next session, but I still do not know, how he is going to deal with them next time. It looks like he does not know it either, he does not address the problem, why the agreement with aliens did not work this time, although I ask his opinion on that.

I think the key here is free will. It has been said, that 4D aliens must observe free will, which means I let them do it on the soul level, and knowing the state my soul was in, I understand it. And now it is already done and they already have access to me.
How do you understand the situation I am in? Could you suggest any good tactic for Patrick how to deal with aliens? Would you think telling them that they violate free will and ask them to stop it would possibly work?

And since the ‘currents’ became very mild, would you think it is possible, that improving the state of my soul would force them to withdraw?

And by the way during my first talk to Patrick I mentioned the transcript posted on the forum, and Patrick said: “I cannot thank him enough. So many people have come to us because of this transcript.”
 
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