I am being attacked, both externally and internally

[Zadius Sky]

Hi jasminum,

Thanks for sharing with us your second session with Patrick. It's very interesting.

May I ask, how long was it between sessions? When was your first session with Patrick that took place? The reason that I asked is because it may take some time for your energy to settle after the session and until then, you may feel like going on an emotional roller-coaster ride with several things happening (realizations, unusual sensations, etc.).

Did you get a chance to view all of Laura's videos on the spirit release topic? I read that you were going to watch them, so I was curious if you were able to compare your experiences from these sessions with what Laura had described in her videos (pretty much in the line of what obyvatel said above). As the C's often said, Knowledge provides psychic protection, and you can fill those "gaps" that the attachments left with knowledge that you'd have gained. In other words, continuing your knowledge quest and building your awareness.

Since Patrick used a "working model" of the Mythology of Angels to work with (as he pointed out in his ebook), he may used the Mythology of Aliens in that same manner to release them. So, yeah, he could have used that latter mythology from William Baldwin's book.

 

[davey72]

Hi jasminum,

Thanks for sharing with us your second session with Patrick. It's very interesting.

I second that, and hope you keep us informed.

 

[Global Warning]

Got identical experience with phones, electricity and computers. Even yesterday I made a call and got a message that 'the number doesn't exist' - while it existed when I phoned once more. When I opened this subject my computer crashed. I had to open it on another computer, then I opened it here again and it was ok. But it was worse while the computers gone broken - and it wasn't that much random. Now I tried to make a call to a person I mentioned and the phone lost reception immediately. I started to think that I shouldn't be doing anything or that I am doing something wrong. But, thinking of such things, it is difficult to differentiate what is own intuition (negative emotions are to inform of risk same as pain is to inform of hurt) and what are demons or an application put on life. What I could advice is to not give up, think logical and be aware of what's going on. Talking about diet and lifestyle here is because it helps.

 

[monotonic]

I think a good diet could be a good step for you, based on my experience.

For me, having carbs below 10g without anything lectinous can produce a shift in perception. Instead of feeling brain fog as a mist of confusion, it becomes like a little phenomenon in your mind that you can feel, observe, test and study. Sometimes when I shift my perception to solve negative emotions, at the moment the negative emotion becomes inert it becomes like a headache which passes momentarily but no longer has any input with other thoughts.

If you can see what you are thinking impartially at the time of thinking it, you become aware of the feeling of thoughts. This feeling becomes like a second way of thinking. It helps you to stop negative thoughts before they start, and to change thought programs that before had always happened faster than you could see.

Personally, the mental fog produced by almost any kind of carb reduces my attention span so much this is highly unlikely unless I am in the middle of a shock.

In any case, bad food deprives me of the spontaneity and attention span that I need to think carefully and impartially. The alternative for me is to think in a stupor, and in this condition self-observation occurs more by accident than anything. I can only imagine the degree of manipulation by emotional driving that spiritual creatures could enact behind a screen of neurological emotional fog/confusion. I think most here have uncovered disturbing emotional drives in themselves after turning to the network (in plea or in misdirected aggression) when their emotional fog was dominant.

I would guess that a good diet will help you, depending on how much of the benefit you put towards the 4th way tools you already have and that you will learn from this network.

Applying these concepts is an act, which doesn't occur on its own. It takes a degree of effort; attention span is important because without attention span effort can only occur sporadically or by accident. Therefore a wide attention span is of great help to careful, impartial thought. The neurological benefits of ketosis improve that and almost everything else. With no attention span there can be no concerted effort; the Work needs a brain with all its components working. Anything less makes it even more difficult than it is.

After some time of making these efforts, you accumulate reasons you never want to lose this new awareness. You mourn for it when it is gone, and your blatant stupor without it convinces you of how little consciousness you actually have.

That is my experience and my interpretation of it at any rate, and I suspect I have a particularly bad case. I can become pretty useless and dysfunctional if I don't eat right.

If at normal times you are anything less than energetic, focused, attentive and ready for anything, then you are probably in bad health. But really, chances are you don't know or can't remember what it's like to be any other way. You should try it at least once, because it may bring new possibilities - it did for me.

Sometimes cloudy thinking can exacerbate self-esteem issues, depression, and other hysterical kind of states because we just can't tell when we're thinking irrational things; the fog obscures our subtle emotional drives, so we can't distinguish between appropriate and inappropriate emotional responses to different situations. You can get stuck in a rut that psychotherapy alone cannot fix.

 

[Amy]

Hi Jasmin


When I was too upset with certain posts , my computer crashed by itself and rebooted .
When I am near my modem, it turns off by itself when I am in strong emotion/ thought.
When I watch movies with my TV, when it came to exciting parts, that made my emotion changed swiftly,
the TV was also automatically out of signal and off for a few seconds.



Maybe this will help you to explain certain things.

 

[ella]

Hi jasminum,

Thanks for sharing with us your second session with Patrick. It's very interesting.

May I ask, how long was it between sessions? When was your first session with Patrick that took place? The reason that I asked is because it may take some time for your energy to settle after the session and until then, you may feel like going on an emotional roller-coaster ride with several things happening (realizations, unusual sensations, etc.).

Did you get a chance to view all of Laura's videos on the spirit release topic? I read that you were going to watch them, so I was curious if you were able to compare your experiences from these sessions with what Laura had described in her videos (pretty much in the line of what obyvatel said above). As the C's often said, Knowledge provides psychic protection, and you can fill those "gaps" that the attachments left with knowledge that you'd have gained. In other words, continuing your knowledge quest and building your awareness.

Since Patrick used a "working model" of the Mythology of Angels to work with (as he pointed out in his ebook), he may used the Mythology of Aliens in that same manner to release them. So, yeah, he could have used that latter mythology from William Baldwin's book.

There were nine days break between the sessions, and I have arranged for the next one in three weeks, just in case, and to have a look what is going on. I do not feel any emotional roller-coaster ride, to the contrary, I am enjoying peace at last. But it may come later, I am aware of it. I have watched all four videos of Laura on this topic.

I also gained personal experience and I learnt well how to distinguish between negative emotions/attachment and alien attacks. You perceive the emotions of attachments as your very own, you cannot distinguish them. That is why people do not even know, they have attachments. Maybe in some cases there are more powerful ‘workers” and then it looks different, but I did not have such an experience.

And alien attack feels different, at least the kind I know (they might use different devises and methods). It is not like peptides rushing inside. If I were to compare it to something, it would be like electric currents (as I imagine them) felt most intensely under the surface of the skin and giving a burning sensation. And it is independent on your emotions, it may or may not cause emotions, but it is not caused by them. If it is mild, you may perhaps confuse it with emotions, especially if you do not suspect anything. If it is strong, you cannot confuse it with anything else.

The best example (and a kind of proof for me) is when after the session I felt calm and in a kind of meditative state and at the same time experienced the heaviest alien attack ever.

But anyway I feel ok now only very mild ‘currents’ and even not all the time. We’ll see. :)

 

[obyvatel]

And alien attack feels different, at least the kind I know (they might use different devises and methods). It is not like peptides rushing inside. If I were to compare it to something, it would be like electric currents (as I imagine them) felt most intensely under the surface of the skin and giving a burning sensation. And it is independent on your emotions, it may or may not cause emotions, but it is not caused by them. If it is mild, you may perhaps confuse it with emotions, especially if you do not suspect anything. If it is strong, you cannot confuse it with anything else.

The best example (and a kind of proof for me) is when after the session I felt calm and in a kind of meditative state and at the same time experienced the heaviest alien attack ever.

But anyway I feel ok now only very mild ‘currents’ and even not all the time. We’ll see. :)

Hi Jasminum,
Burning sensation under the skin can be caused by issues with the nerves. Dysesthesia in general appears to match symptoms you reported.

Whatever might be the ultimate cause behind the sensations, it seems like there has to be some action on the nerves to make you feel what you feel. So consulting with a neurologist or skin specialist may be advisable.

fwiw

 

[ella]

And alien attack feels different, at least the kind I know (they might use different devises and methods). It is not like peptides rushing inside. If I were to compare it to something, it would be like electric currents (as I imagine them) felt most intensely under the surface of the skin and giving a burning sensation. And it is independent on your emotions, it may or may not cause emotions, but it is not caused by them. If it is mild, you may perhaps confuse it with emotions, especially if you do not suspect anything. If it is strong, you cannot confuse it with anything else.

The best example (and a kind of proof for me) is when after the session I felt calm and in a kind of meditative state and at the same time experienced the heaviest alien attack ever.

But anyway I feel ok now only very mild ‘currents’ and even not all the time. We’ll see. :)

Hi Jasminum,
Burning sensation under the skin can be caused by issues with the nerves. Dysesthesia in general appears to match symptoms you reported.

Whatever might be the ultimate cause behind the sensations, it seems like there has to be some action on the nerves to make you feel what you feel. So consulting with a neurologist or skin specialist may be advisable.

fwiw

And have you read the transcript from the session?

 

[monotonic]

I think you should get it checked out. One idea: the High Strangeness could be aimed at giving you every reason NOT to think your illness is something that a doctor can cure. As such the illness progresses as you search for spiritual solutions for a diet/health problem.

Your account is very convincing so I did not question your connection of the electric feelings with a hyperdimensional attack. But now that it's been suggested multiple times I think you should see a doctor, just to be careful.

 

[obyvatel]

Hi Jasminum,
Burning sensation under the skin can be caused by issues with the nerves. Dysesthesia in general appears to match symptoms you reported.

Whatever might be the ultimate cause behind the sensations, it seems like there has to be some action on the nerves to make you feel what you feel. So consulting with a neurologist or skin specialist may be advisable.

fwiw

And have you read the transcript from the session?

Yes, I did. I highlighted the part of my last post which I think is relevant to the question you asked me. You have been through multiple rounds of SRT. The issues have not gone away. If I were in your place, I would give a neurologist/dermatologist a try. Alien implants or whatever else may be the cause, I would like to know if my nerves are being damaged in some way which makes me feel a burning sensation under my skin. But that's me. It is entirely up to you what you would do with your health.

 

[ella]

Hi Jasminum,
Burning sensation under the skin can be caused by issues with the nerves. Dysesthesia in general appears to match symptoms you reported.

Whatever might be the ultimate cause behind the sensations, it seems like there has to be some action on the nerves to make you feel what you feel. So consulting with a neurologist or skin specialist may be advisable.

fwiw

And have you read the transcript from the session?

Yes, I did. I highlighted the part of my last post which I think is relevant to the question you asked me. You have been through multiple rounds of SRT. The issues have not gone away. If I were in your place, I would give a neurologist/dermatologist a try. Alien implants or whatever else may be the cause, I would like to know if my nerves are being damaged in some way which makes me feel a burning sensation under my skin. But that's me. It is entirely up to you what you would do with your health.

If you try to objectively view ALL information I presented in this thread, you might at least take into consideration, that something strange might be going on here, we can be dealing with something, which we do not understand and lack knowledge about it. But if we assume, that nothing like this could be possibly happening, then we can always find an appropriate explanation.

If you just assumed, that I might be right (give it 1% only), then you would take into account, that the sensation I am talking about is not generally known to people and you cannot relate to it, this is why I cannot possibly covey it to you. So when I say “electrical currents’ or burning sensation, you project sensations that you know from experience, be it your own or others.

And what I think another reason of miscommunication here is: why would any aliens bother to attack jasminum, while they do not bother to attack any other member of this forum.

I am not claiming, that what I experience is alien attack for 100%, but I give it very high probability. And if you just dismiss it as not possible, then… I do not know what to say.

 

[Gaby]

And what I think another reason of miscommunication here is: why would any aliens bother to attack jasminum, while they do not bother to attack any other member of this forum.

Another thing to consider is that other members might have gone through similar experiences, but have dealt with their problems doing dietary changes. In several instances, people had made the remark of the "dairy and gluten demons", meaning, that eliminating inflammatory foods strengthens against such attacks. While SRT can be very useful, it is not the only tool or root cause that should be focused on. For all we know, Patrick's and Heather's work might be rendered useless if we focus too much in one aspect (SRT), leaving many other aspects unaddressed: dietary issues, autoimmune problems, lack of knowledge of the present state of affairs in the world, knowledge about psychology, etc. Lack of knowledge that makes a person vulnerable, weakens the psyche and leaves one susceptible to attack.

So it is not to undermine your experiences or understandings, but to show the door to other possibilities that have been addressed in the forum throughout the years because they work. There might be fancy neurological names and diagnosis to what one perceives is going on in the psyche, but the important thing in them is that it drives a person to take good care of the health addressing the physical, psychological and spiritual aspects, a holistic approach. Certain supplements might be more appropriate, i.e. L-carnitine for cognitive abilities or B vitamins to protect the nerves. A person can do spiritual work, but if they continue eating gluten, some psychological aspects are only going to get worse if there is not an increase in awareness of what weakens the body.

For me the big one is that people don't eat enough of the good animal fats and nutrients that their brain and nerves need to function properly and in a synchronous way. Plus, they eat too much sugar and other toxic foods that end up inflaming the body and brain. If one is to heal, there is got to be a fertile ground so to speak. This to the point that diet should always be the priority number one before moving on to other healing aspects and/or in order to make other healing approaches useful. These are just general examples.

I'm glad that you had the opportunity to have a SRT and I hope it will encourage you to gain knowledge and awareness that will benefit and protect you.

Hope this is useful.

 

[ella]

And what I think another reason of miscommunication here is: why would any aliens bother to attack jasminum, while they do not bother to attack any other member of this forum.

Another thing to consider is that other members might have gone through similar experiences, but have dealt with their problems doing dietary changes. In several instances, people had made the remark of the "dairy and gluten demons", meaning, that eliminating inflammatory foods strengthens against such attacks. While SRT can be very useful, it is not the only tool or root cause that should be focused on. For all we know, Patrick's and Heather's work might be rendered useless if we focus too much in one aspect (SRT), leaving many other aspects unaddressed: dietary issues, autoimmune problems, lack of knowledge of the present state of affairs in the world, knowledge about psychology, etc. Lack of knowledge that makes a person vulnerable, weakens the psyche and leaves one susceptible to attack.

If I were to put this post in the straightforward way (which would be rude), it would sound:
Your diet is bad, you do not do The work on yourself, but chose an easy road (SRT) instead, without realizing that it is not the only tool or root cause that should be focused on, you lack knowledge of the present state of affairs in the world, you lack knowledge about psychology, which makes you vulnerable, weakens your psyche and leaves you susceptible to attack.

So it is not to undermine your experiences or understandings, but to show the door to other possibilities that have been addressed in the forum throughout the years because they work. There might be fancy neurological names and diagnosis to what one perceives is going on in the psyche, but the important thing in them is that it drives a person to take good care of the health addressing the physical, psychological and spiritual aspects, a holistic approach. Certain supplements might be more appropriate, i.e. L-carnitine for cognitive abilities or B vitamins to protect the nerves. A person can do spiritual work, but if they continue eating gluten, some psychological aspects are only going to get worse if there is not an increase in awareness of what weakens the body.

To the contrary, it is to undermine my experiences or understandings.

I'm glad that you had the opportunity to have a SRT and I hope it will encourage you to gain knowledge and awareness that will benefit and protect you.

Meaning: you lack knowledge and awareness, and you do not even realize that you need them, hopefully SRT will make you realize that and encourage you to work.

Summary: why would any aliens bother to attack jasminum.

And maybe the attack I am talking about is of different kind? And maybe I have a “strong divine connection”, using the words of Patrick? And maybe I do the intense Work on myself, which for example resulted in severing the connection with “red monkey” or “fallen angel” and others by my efforts, through my Work and farther resulting in forming solid communication “blue manmade floor” with my self? And maybe somebody knew about my “divine connection” and did not want me to realize it? And maybe that somebody was harassing me successfully right from my birth? If you take notice, according to Patrick there were multiple attachments within me “all attached at the same way”, the way to cut me off from my connection. And what if I was aware of some kind of the connection and did a lot of Work on myself, and arrived to the point, where the connection started (just started) to open, and the last resort to not let me strengthen it, was to directly attack me, till it was still possible. Would you be willing to consider such a scenario as possible. And even if it was only 1% probability, would you not think it would be worth looking more closely at it? If only to dismiss it on a solid base?

 

[obyvatel]

If you try to objectively view ALL information I presented in this thread, you might at least take into consideration, that something strange might be going on here, we can be dealing with something, which we do not understand and lack knowledge about it. But if we assume, that nothing like this could be possibly happening, then we can always find an appropriate explanation.

Can you point out where such assumptions were made?

[quote author=Jasminum]

And what I think another reason of miscommunication here is: why would any aliens bother to attack jasminum, while they do not bother to attack any other member of this forum.
[/quote]

I am not seeing miscommunication here.

[quote author=Jasminum]
I am not claiming, that what I experience is alien attack for 100%, but I give it very high probability. And if you just dismiss it as not possible, then… I do not know what to say.
[/quote]

Can you point out where anything was dismissed as not possible?

People here including myself are not trying to explain away your experiences. We do not know what is going on - so we can only suggest what we think we would do in such circumstances based on our collective experience.

You seem to be working under the assumption that people are suggesting diet and medical checkup because they do not believe you. You started this thread with that assumption and as far as I can see, you are sticking with it.

 

[Al Today]

There is much discussion of diet here. Look at jasminum 's 1st post. Bold mine.

edit: not an inordinate amount, but enough stood out for me.

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Today I got up feeling as if a train run over me. I felt I cannot cope anymore. For many hours I was unable to do anything at all. I do not know why I wrote it here, because what can you do about it, but when I sat down to give myself Reiki, I felt a strong urge to write this post. And I even feel much better now. I always wanted to share my problems with you, but before the attack on the Reiki friend, I thought I had nothing convincing to tell you so that you could believe me that it is not just demons and me imagining things, I was afraid you would just ask me, what my diet is. :D
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