I am being attacked, both externally and internally

Hi Jasminum,

I chime into this discussion because I am dealing with similar issues. I too had a session with Patrick Rodriguez 10 days ago, which I will write about in the soon on the forum. And I am a newbie in writing here too, as I just came back to the forum after a pause of 18 months or so, due to illness and some topics you mention above.

So first: hang on in there! I know the feeling of collecting all courage to open up and write a post, hoping for answers in this search for truth, hoping to find effective tools to work, hoping for emotional support.

So: a big hug!

I don´t know if this helps, but what I did and do, is taking it step by step. Yes, I know, step by step is hard, when things turn wild and we are in a roller coaster ride. But this attitude helped me a lot. Basically its all I had. I too have strange memories of all kinds of contacts from early childhood and later. It left me frozen for years.

To figure out what causes all the symptoms, we experience, is a walk in the jungle at night with a small flashlight at hand. When I was going through all kinds of symptoms, that pulled me into fading away what helped, was that I knew that all is connected, meaning physically, emotionally, mentally, spiritually.

If you have all these sensations, just remember, they can be dealt with on different levels. If my body was screaming, I gave it a treat to calm it, eg FIR sauna, sleep, massage. If I panicked and was not able to do any breathing or other exercise to relax, I went to see a friend for a simple chat or the movies. And so on. Nothing big, nothing special, just normal. In doing this, I calmed and gathered strength for the next step.

And the next step, somehow became clear, the more I agreed that it can be a small step, like what is the most important thing I need to do today.

Quote from: jasminum on Yesterday at 11:50:28 AM


Thank you for your reply. I agree with all you say and thanks for the words of care. I do not understand, what really happened here, the thread developed in different direction I intended. During the conversation I even forgot why I posted the transcript of the session. I did not expect anybody to know what is going on, or help in any practical way. I expected, that my version would be accepted as possible, and I meant to ask you to discuss the subject of free will with me, because somehow I feel it might be the key to solve my situation or at least to help me understand it. As Patrick’s strategy with aliens does not work, I intended to try to look for the different strategy, that could work. I know that if awareness was at place and my soul would have been be in good state, it would not allow abductions to happen. But what, if it is already a done deal. That was what I wanted to ask you about and I even said it in my post.

It was not a good approach, I should have searched the subject myself first on the forum, in transcripts, and only then ask you about it, if in any doubts. And that it what I am going to do now.
At that time I felt disappointed, that the session did not free me, got emotional while talking to you, because of my expectation, so, sorry for that.

It is only a "done deal" if you think that is even a possibility. IMO

About your take on free will and "done deal", I can only say, that I think its a matter of gathering strength. I don´t believe anymore that there is such a thing as "done deal", although I had a long time, when I was frozen...was not able to digest shocks, that I believed that things are "done". Looking back, experience showed me, that it´s a matter of collecting strength, step by step.

FWIW. Take care.
 
As to what you said about feeling dismissed, I suppose everyone is trying to help you, not confirming it's aliens or not, but looking at the sympthoms and giving remedies. It's began as a scientific experiment so first it would have to be sure. And it seems to get less important when your life is going right way - living and learning new things not thinking about bad experiences. What touched me more than not really talking about the transition or the aliens here is thinking about not having knowledge and being in density 2.x-3.x, so not having knowledge - even thought it's the most intelligent place in the world with the best channeling. It's so easy to convince yourself of knowing such a little - while having a glimpse it is such a little, so having some glimpse on how much there is. Otherwise it would be just being convinced there are 7 densities and we are in 3 so we know a little and won't know much more untli the next density. What if you incarnated here from 4 or being told by your 6 density self, or seen much in 5? It's like having a premise that the world things are more sure than such glimpse would be. It seems more consistent but I think you're free to reaserch the way you want. As to the implants, Cs told it is impossible to turn it off - similar as it is impossible to be against HAARP program and survive. They mentioned their help though, free will etc. They've mentioned lizards gets uninterested when to achieve some development, because then they can't get much from it - so, if the diet, better lifestyle and meditation achieved by whatever method helps: it would help you whatever it was aliens or psychics. I've seen terryfing things, it was either psychical and physical. I've seen better things too. There was no denial.
 
Breo said:
Hi Jasminum,

I chime into this discussion because I am dealing with similar issues. I too had a session with Patrick Rodriguez 10 days ago, which I will write about in the soon on the forum. And I am a newbie in writing here too, as I just came back to the forum after a pause of 18 months or so, due to illness and some topics you mention above.

So first: hang on in there! I know the feeling of collecting all courage to open up and write a post, hoping for answers in this search for truth, hoping to find effective tools to work, hoping for emotional support.

So: a big hug!

I don´t know if this helps, but what I did and do, is taking it step by step. Yes, I know, step by step is hard, when things turn wild and we are in a roller coaster ride. But this attitude helped me a lot. Basically its all I had. I too have strange memories of all kinds of contacts from early childhood and later. It left me frozen for years.

To figure out what causes all the symptoms, we experience, is a walk in the jungle at night with a small flashlight at hand. When I was going through all kinds of symptoms, that pulled me into fading away what helped, was that I knew that all is connected, meaning physically, emotionally, mentally, spiritually.

If you have all these sensations, just remember, they can be dealt with on different levels. If my body was screaming, I gave it a treat to calm it, eg FIR sauna, sleep, massage. If I panicked and was not able to do any breathing or other exercise to relax, I went to see a friend for a simple chat or the movies. And so on. Nothing big, nothing special, just normal. In doing this, I calmed and gathered strength for the next step.

And the next step, somehow became clear, the more I agreed that it can be a small step, like what is the most important thing I need to do today.

Quote from: jasminum on Yesterday at 11:50:28 AM


Thank you for your reply. I agree with all you say and thanks for the words of care. I do not understand, what really happened here, the thread developed in different direction I intended. During the conversation I even forgot why I posted the transcript of the session. I did not expect anybody to know what is going on, or help in any practical way. I expected, that my version would be accepted as possible, and I meant to ask you to discuss the subject of free will with me, because somehow I feel it might be the key to solve my situation or at least to help me understand it. As Patrick’s strategy with aliens does not work, I intended to try to look for the different strategy, that could work. I know that if awareness was at place and my soul would have been be in good state, it would not allow abductions to happen. But what, if it is already a done deal. That was what I wanted to ask you about and I even said it in my post.

It was not a good approach, I should have searched the subject myself first on the forum, in transcripts, and only then ask you about it, if in any doubts. And that it what I am going to do now.
At that time I felt disappointed, that the session did not free me, got emotional while talking to you, because of my expectation, so, sorry for that.

It is only a "done deal" if you think that is even a possibility. IMO

About your take on free will and "done deal", I can only say, that I think its a matter of gathering strength. I don´t believe anymore that there is such a thing as "done deal", although I had a long time, when I was frozen...was not able to digest shocks, that I believed that things are "done". Looking back, experience showed me, that it´s a matter of collecting strength, step by step.

FWIW. Take care.

Hi Breo,
thanks for the nice post and big hug to you too. :)
My emotions settled down and I feel much better now. I have come to the conclusion, that it does not matter, whether it is aliens causing me problems or not, because the only thing I can do is to keep working on myself (diet, knowledge etc.), increase my awareness and strength (as you said) have faith and do not judge what universe can or cannot do. After all I am still alive and my situation greatly improved, so I am grateful for that. Even if I knew that’s aliens, how I could I even think of outsmarting them. :lol:
So now, looking from this perspective I can see, that all advice I received was good and the only possible advice I could get, thank you all for your willingness to help me.
 
Just remembered one more thing that might add to the whole picture or not. When a year ago I started to feel the connection, I had a strange dream, which I perceived not a dream at all. It was as real as in ‘real’ world. It was during the day, I felt sleepy and lied down to have a nap. I do not remember all exact words, but I do remember the meaning of them, so I will paraphrase shortly, leaving what is most important. In my dream I came back home (it was not a flat I really live in, completely different one, but in the dream it was my flat), and found a casually looking middle aged women sitting at my table. I felt uneasy, I asked her, how did she got there, where did she got the keys to my flat from. She answered: “I got them from …….. (she used the strange word, which I did not understand in the dream and I did not remember after waking up). She added: “They have the key to everyone, to Alice as well” (Alice is false name, I will explain, who she is). Then I noticed there is one more person in my flat, it was a casually looking middle aged man, he was walking around my flat with camera in his hand (at the beginning he was in another room) and taking pictures of everything inside. I told them, that since I did not invite them, I ask them to leave. And we all moved to the hall. Once in the hall I looked at them and they both changed their appearance. Now he was a very tall, slim, young, blonde man with blue eyes, very handsome, he did not pay any attention to me, still taking pictures of my hall, and she was short, quite plump blond woman, looking straight at me with her blue, very piercing and vicious eyes. When they left the flat she turned around, looked at me and said something like: ‘see you tomorrow’, or ‘see you soon’, anyway she told me they are going to be back and soon. I closed the door and woke up.

So that was the very first strange thing that happened to me, and soon afterwards the interent connection to all Laura’s sites were cut off from my PC and all the rest followed.

As to Alice, she is a friend of mine who left our “spiritual group” together with me. We came to the same conclusions about the group and so called ‘master’, discussing all these, so you might say we worked in network and in network we left. Generally when we started talking about it, I already had found Laura’s work and was reading the Wave. The STO, STS concept gave us much more clarity to what we were already perceiving happening in the group. I knew that I have found my place and that I was staying here for good, and I was sure Alice would fully join in. But she did it in half. She got fascinated with Gudijeff work and I was passing her all the knowledge I got here, but only about personal work, everything about the workings of human machine (nervous system, petty tyrants, anything I found interesting from cognitive science), and we were working together, giving a mirror to each other, discussing things. But she mostly rejected any other knowledge. I perceive her to be gentle and very sensitive, she hurts when sees the suffering, be it human or animal, so even though she seems to be strong willed and independent minded, when you are with her, it makes you feel like she is very vulnerable and you need to protect her. And so I also felt very protective towards her, thinking what would happen if she was forced to face something really ugly and had no knowledge about it at all, how unprepared she would be to what is coming. I was thinking, how to introduce to her some knowledge about reality we live in (I know, it is her free will choice, perhaps I should have not to, but I did).

So coming back to the dream, her name appeared in it, which is very telling. The woman said: “They have a key to everybody, to Alice as well”. Generally I understood the event that somebody entered my dream to let me know (again scaring me, at the beginning all there was, was scaring me), that they have the key to me and they are going to use it (“see you soon”). It could also be understood, that it was my subconscious giving me a warning. But the thing with Alice does not fit the second possibility. I took it as a thread to me: “Live Alice alone, or else… We have a key to her as well”, as if they knew I worried about her. I think my subconscious would not try to scare me away from Alice, might try to give me some message about her, but not that.

Or there might be another possibility, I am not aware of.
 
Last Sunday I had the third session with Patrick, this time specifically aimed at freeing me from aliens. Before the session I kept thinking how to do it, how the free will factor works and how to use it. Few days before planned session I had a dream, followed by strange event.

In my dream I was in a unknown environment, which I could not remember clearly, some misty impression, some plants, blue sky and I think there was some kind of a building, I was walking and suddenly the sky started to become grey black, heavy of dark, moving, whirling clouds, coming fast down closer and closer to me, I curled up on the ground and started to feel like some power was trying to lift me up (like sucking me up), and I heard loud voice from above saying clearly letter by letter: E – B – E – R. I was struggling to fight against the power and shouting: “no, no, no, no…” Then I started to wake up and I could literally feel I was being lifted up by ‘somebody” holding me on two sides, I could even feel I was wobbling. I was fighting against it still screaming out loud: “no, no, no, no…… “ That was in the state of half-dream. And when I woke up completely, it all stopped and nobody was there, I could still feel the clear sensation of being touched on my two sides (more like energetic sensation, not on my physical body). Before going back to sleep I wrote down the name Eber.

I made a small research about Eber and found out that he was a man who lived in biblical times after the flood, who refused to help building the tower of Babel and he was rewarded by “god”.

Then I read here:
Quote from: Session 941005
Q: (L) What was the event a hundred or so years after the flood of Noah that was described as the confusing of languages, or the tower of Babel?
A: Spiritual confluence.
Q: (L) What purpose did the individuals who came together to build the tower intend for said tower?
A: Electromagnetic concentration of all gravity waves.
Q: (L) And what did they intend to do with these concentrated waves?
A: Mind alteration of masses.
Q: (L) What intention did they have in altering the mind of the masses?
A: Spiritual unification of the masses.
Q: (L) Who were the "gods" that looked down on the tower of Babel, at those who were building it with the intention of unification, and decided to destroy
their works?
A: Lizards.
Q: (L) Okay, so the Lizzies blew up the tower of Babel. What else did they do to the minds of mankind; did they do something causing literal disruption of their
understanding of language?
A: Close.
Q: (L) What tool did they use to accomplish this divisiveness?
A: Brainwashing of masses.
Q: (L) Did they do this through implants and abduction?
A: Partly.

I interpreted the dream too literally, that I might have been Eber and betrayed STO path by making a pact with aliens (so called ‘God’), but as I know now, after the session, it was more symbolical, just pointing me towards known figure who made this kind of pact. I described to Patrick what happened and I wrote to him: “If I understand the dream correctly, in some previous life I had submitted to the forces of darkness, which I understand, is like ‘signing the pact with the devil (dark aliens)’, it is like giving up my free will to them. So now they feel the right to claim my soul.” Patrick answered: “We can use this (the dream) as a starting point for your session tomorrow”.

At the time of the session Patrick could not reach me by phone, after 15 minutes of him trying, I borrowed the phone from my son, and it worked, he told me they were having many problems calling people recently.

As in previous post I will put dots where I could not understand what was told. There might also be some mistakes, I guess.

Below are most relevant parts of the session:

Patrick read my description of the dream and the event from my mail to Heather.

P: One thing I will say before we get started is the dream was very interesting to me because this is how, I believe, all pacts are made. It is like there is a signing a pact with the devil, so to speak, and this is what happens with fallen angels, that they take a piece of the energy body, what I call soul fragments, and it is a part that would experience a great deal of pain, something that we do not want to feel anymore, it is like we break off a piece of our soul, saying I do not want to feel this pain, and then the fallen angels would take that piece of that soul, and then they place inside of us workers or what people call demons. So that is why base of my whole theory is exactly what your dream is. That is kind of interesting to me. But what was really interesting is that you feel it was also the same case with aliens.

So Heather, what we are looking for then is if you can see a past life that comes up (??), where she basically signed the pack with these aliens ……. saying: it is ok to do this. And you may come across more then one.

H: …… there is a tribe ……. basically trying to communicate with aliens.
P: You mean like a native American tribe?
H: It’s kind of like that but they weren’t entirely tribe like, they actually made progression in technology, with technological things …… they were making these …….
P: Looks like the Mayans.
H: Right. There was some kind of trade for knowledge. Amongst the entire tribe ….. It did not understand the cost. It was not like it was a written contract per say, this was more like this is what you will do type of thing. Seems like a contract was little bit of energy from every incarnation. ……..…………..
P: Can you say that a little differently?
H: Yes, like when you learn something that you don’t know about, we will take up from you. Trade. It’s trade.
P: Ok, trade of info.

Now Patrick was not sure, what that might mean, and we discussed things a bit as to what approach to take. About the free will approach Patrick said that in the beginning he pursued the method of talking about violating free will and it never went successfully, because aliens would say: “Well, we have free will. They gave us a permission at one point. We are still doing what we are doing.” Patrick decided to deal with it the way they always do with the past life regressions and soul fragments, ie. finding this place in my soul that gives them the permission and let it understand, that it does not need to give the permission any more.

Patrick asks Heather about her thoughts about the process.

H: ……… it seems like they want to hold on to people with the ability ………….. there is something that they want to understand, like there is something that they have not found. And for some reason they still have not got what they needed.
P: So you have a sense that they want to understand psychic ability.

H: Basically in the energy I am reading now, compared to what we have been talking about: ‘we need to be prepared to fight’, basically. They needed the trade to have more than other cultures, that came across.
P: We need the trade of info to survive. So the feeling I am getting as I am listening to you, is there is no difference in time, like that isn’t that happened then, this is happening now, everything is right now, and so therefore there is a fear of, that if I do not have their info, we are not gonna survive. Does that sound like to you?
H: Yes.
P: So we need to approach this not from the perspective of: I made a decision once long time ago, but: I have a fear inside of me that I need some information outside of me, no matter what it is.
H: Ok.
P: Yes, it is like no matter what it is outside information, I do not need it to survive, I am safe. Well, when it comes to survive ability, that’s what the hold is, the surviving.
Tell me what’s come up for you, please.
H: What I am seeing is that with all past lives that’s involved with it, that there is never really a definition between any one past life. Does it make sense?
P: Yes. Perfect sense.
H: The individual had different lives, but the energy is the same.

I asked about the name Eber, that I heard in the dream.

P: Anything comes from that, Heather?
H: ….. what pop in my mind is like a bar code, like a marking of some kind.
P: Good, ok.

H:……. what happens is there may be other times, that ….. is involved with, but it is king of like it is just one ongoing life. Does that make sense.
P: Yes.
H: It is due to this thing …. that was made a deal with.
P: Right. So what I want to do is focus on the energy of: I need this information to survive. Because my guess is that is what holding everything in place for all these incarnations.
H: It seems like one way or another it was useful. Something what came up …….. was useful. ………. that contract is still valid or something.
P: Right. But there is a difference between useful and I needed to survive.
H: Yes. Something …….. aspect of survival.
P: We are gonna change the definition of survive. Because now I can say, what is going on is they said: no, no, it is surviving. From a one life time perspective, we did survive because of their information.

Since I did not understand Heather speaking, Patrick explained to me, that what he sees is that this was very pragmatic. He said: what Heather is describing is that there was a woman, that belonged to the tribe, this tribe wanted to survive, and the tribe wanted the information that these aliens had, in order to survive, they thought, that their whole race was going to be eliminated by their enemies if they did not have this information. So there was a lot of fear involved. To make that even more concrete, these aliens would give a little bit of information and it proved useful: “O my god, we survived the battle, we survived that fight, and aliens gave a little bit of information, it is like: “oh, we want another battle.” And that is what kept a contract going. And then taking into account that from one perspective all lives time happen simultaneously, this is one perspective of the way to look at life times, so right now there is a woman that is part of a tribe, and she feels a loyalty to the tribe, and she says: it is worth it… You were probably a priestess in that life time.

P: Ok, so what we are going to try to do is to change a definition of what it means to survive. The definition of what it means to survive is lifetime after lifetime, after lifetime. So I am going to ask you to connect with this priestess.
H: Ok.
P: I feel a very strong sense of responsibility to her people. Does that resonate with you?
H: Yes.
P: Like they were under attack so no price was too high to pay. I am going to ask transitioned ancestors of this tribe to please be here and made their presence known to this priestess and to help her to understand, she does survive, they survive, but not in a way that she thinks. Before the tribe existed, they existed, after the tribe is gone, they will still exist. Life is the continuation. These are people of your tribe. Heather, how we are doing?
H: Yes, she understands, but she still thinks it was necessary.
P: It was useful, it was not necessary. And it may come to pass, it will come to pass. All races of men will die. It will come to pass. All races of men will die.
H: She was under the impression that, ……. they would …….. this way.
P: And I am going to ask the ancestors to share their perspective of the race of people, both now and in the future generations.
H: She said ok.
P: We do know that many battles had been won, but we also know, that you paid great price for yourself and for many incarnations of who you will be.
H: She thought of this, but she did not think it was a kind …… issue. She is only able to see so far.
P: It prevents you from becoming fully who you are, and as a result it prevents you from helping others.
H: She does not understand this part.
P: Imagine how limited would you be if you no longer had the ability to see.
H: …………….
P: And this is what happens to you in other life times.
H: She never thought that happen. ………
P: And again we ask for her trusted members of her race to show her what becomes and how other incarnations have been affected.
H: Ok.
P: The price becomes much greater now, do you see?
H: She says yes.
P: I question to you are you willing to cancel all agreements with these alien beings for all incarnations.
H: She said ok, …… but what they gain? (??)
P: I believe that the question itself causes me to believe that there is a need to be revered by your people. You are already revered. But there is a need to feel revered, almost a fear to lose that respect among your people. Can you see this?
H: She said yes.
P: And I believe this is what keeps you coming back and will continue to keep you coming back, this is need to be special. May I help you to release this?
H: She said yes.
P: All right Heather, let’s take a look inside of her. What we are looking for is the fear of not being consider special. The need to be special.
H: There is …………., fear, wanting to be as good as her parents were. Under the impression, that things get easier to others. ………………………. She wants to control.
P: Let’s follow that path of I want control. Maybe like, I need control, I have to have control. And tell me if anything comes up for you.
H: It is pretty much throughout the time as known, the same. (??)
P: Let us see if we have any workers in there, prompting: I need control, I have to have control.
H: She says that no, no, because she is working with them. Yes, because there are workers, she use them as guides.
P: Ok. All right then. [Patrick chuckles]. Say it again.
H: Because it is different, because she uses them as guides.
P: Is she ready to let go of these guides?
H: She thinks she needs them.
P: And once again it is the fear that is affecting her. It is not about thinking that you need them, it’s the fear of what will happen if they are not there.
H: She says you can try it.
P: Good.

Now in short Patrick asks angels to help release fear and bring in energy of trust in the divine. Then the process of releasing workers and healing process.

P: All right, now, are we willing and ready to break any agreements, any ……… and any connection with any of these beings who you have been getting information from?
H: She said yes.
P: Good. Let’s see if we could just put up a mass call, because the feeling I get is that she had one group in particular, but then she was kind of ……. touch upon other groups as well, is that feel right to you?
H: Yes.
P: Into living each and every one of these ………. now she is no longer a willing participant.

H: Seems like some are not very good …………… they do not like ……. what happen.
P: And in accordance with her free will, in accordance with revoking all agreements, it is seem to be, that all devices, all objects are removed from all incarnations.
H: Yes.

H: I do not understand what just popped into my head.
………………. and all of the sudden I just start to see a metaphor of squirrels chasing each other to nowhere, so I do not understand, I do not know what that means.
P: I would say that is a good sign (??). So let’s ask a little insights here, is she now free of these deals, and bargains, agreements and commitments?
H: I would say, that yes, but we have metaphor coming up I am not sure ………
P: To me it feels like squirrels chasing each other is like they are objecting but there is nothing they can do about it. And they are chasing after like a nut or a ………. corn.
H: ………..
P: This is a good metaphor. Because it is coming up as energy, not necessarily something that you see.
H: Just interesting, that’s all.

Some more healing done on me.

After the session I wrote to Patrick:
“I was thinking a lot about the implications of the session, of what actually happened. When trying to analyze it logically it can change our understanding of karma. It more looks like all our incarnations are interconnected. Like changing something in one life, brings some changes in others. By changing something in my ‘past’, you changed something in my present. I think that you might have changed something in all other incarnations of mine or at least all incarnations later in sequence from the life of the priestess, because if aliens had the right to abduct me here, due to the decision of the ‘priestess’ in that ‘time’, then why would they not do it to me in all other incarnations.

According to Cassiopaenas 4D beings can enter out reality at any point of ‘time”, they wish. They can abduct you, and put you back here at exactly the same point of time and space. And if somebody misses some time or finds himself at some different place, it is simply by their mistake or neglect. So now I can imagine them abducting me from where I am now and abducting ‘me’ living 2000 years ago, and we are lying side by side somewhere in their base. I am joking here, but maybe it is possible, I do not know, but I can imagine that now. :) Anyway maybe you rescued me in my many incarnations, the change had to manifest somehow. Is it not amazing? Do you see that the same way, or am I missing something?

Cassipaeans said many times, that when you make a decision and act it out, you change present, future and past. And we did it. I made a decision here, and through you it changed the decision I made few thousand years ago, which changed my life ‘then’, and ‘now’ and probably in my many incarnations.”

And Patrick replied:
I am in agreement about everything that you shared in your last email. This has always been my approach with "demons" and Fallen Angels but I did not apply it to "aliens". I have had success with the "data exchange" method but I always felt that this wasn't complete. I'm very hopeful with the method that we seemed to uncover in this last session. Thank you again for bringing that up.

I was taught by a spirit guide that humans must learn to live as "multi-incarnational beings". By that, he expressed that in order to live at our full potential we must learn to accept responsibility to all that we have been in this life, and in all lives. This is where it became my experience of using mult-life therapy. :)
 
jasminum perhaps you could and will benefit from meditation https://eiriu-eolas.org/online-version/. Do this 6 to 7 times a week and more when it grows onto you. And cut out the carbohydrates in your diet: http://www.sott.net/article/223227-A-Reversal-on-Carbs

http://www.sott.net/article/170772-Low-carb-Diets-Can-Affect-Dieters-Cognition-Skills http://www.sott.net/article/225393-What-if-Its-All-Been-a-Big-Fat-Lie

http://www.sott.net/article/258151-The-paleo-diet-explained http://www.sott.net/article/242431-Paleo-Diet-Works-High-Fat-Diet-reverses-the-Overloaded-Under-fuelled-Condition-A-case-study http://www.sott.net/article/230141-You-Are-A-Radical-And-So-Am-I-Paleo-Reaches-The-Ominous-Stage-3 http://www.sott.net/article/235237-A-Real-Paleo-Diet-Grassfed-Meat-Fat-and-Organ-Meats

http://www.sott.net/article/268889-SOTT-Talk-Radio-Nora-Gedgaudas-interview-Healing-through-NeuroFeedback-and-an-Ice-Age-diet


Along with the other good advice from the responses before this one here. oh yea and :cool2:
 
Thanks for sharing your experience with the forum jasminum. I was intrigued to be reading about your hard times, how you have been coping and am pleased to see that you are making progress. How are you doing now?

I am new to this area however have been naive and opened up my aura/shield too many potential nasties. I have been reading and building on my knowledge and am going to try changing my diet. Some of the things I can relate some of the things you have been posting. :
1. Strange sounds whilst on the phone - crackling, whistling.... Yesterday I heard some very distorted high pitch screams and I then went to listen to my mailbox to listen to my 2 answer phone messages as said in the text i received, however only listened to one and the other one ceased to exist. In my experience computers generally don't make these kinds of mistakes. I am also sure that I did not press delete, so I am unsure what happened to my second message.
2. Unusual body sensations - I actually woke up after a bad dream and felt vibration in my leg, I focused on this and thought of 'Jesus' as recommended somewhere on the Internet. I felt the vibration move up my leg and through my whole body before my ear popped and it stopped.
I too have got an appointment with Patrick scheduled and hope he can help me overcome some of these issues.


Q: (Ark) Well, once we are on this subject, I want to ask about these mathematicians. Yesterday I learned that from my mathematician friend in Poland about the death of - in our Kairos club - a young mathematician Branson. And apparently he was quite young and for no reason suddenly he died driving a car. (L) In an accident? (Ark) No, while he was driving. Now, he was a friend of the German mathematician who worked with Irving Segal, the young guy that drowned in Clausthal in the lake. There was a conference, and they went for a swim in the lake. People were on the shore watching, and he just sank in seconds and that was all. He was also like 20-some years old. Then we had this Pertti Lounesto, the same club, related to the same area of mathematics, who drowned in the sea a few months after we saw him at the conference {in Cookville, Tennessee}. Okay, and then we had the Russian mathematician who was doing also similar work, and he went to the Black sea for vacation and he drowned. All these young people died, and they are all mathematicians doing very abstract work. It's too many of them to have drowned just by accident. I mean, what kind of coincidence is it? Any comment?

A: It is not a coincidence. It is too bad that so many who are on the right track in so many ways do not have the advantage of knowing about those things that would shield them from frequency driven attacks; such things as diet changes that would protect them from direct manipulation; things such as awareness of other densities. But, of course this last item would have come to their notice.

I was reading this and only a year ago one of my friends, a bright spark studying maths at one of the best universities in the UK died in a freak accident. He was the most logical man I knew, he had lungs of steel, how this happened to this day makes no sense to anyone. Could it be connected?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2513898/Cambridge-student-Marcus-Hughes-Hallett-drowned-family-holiday.html
 
Notx said:
Thanks for sharing your experience with the forum jasminum. I was intrigued to be reading about your hard times, how you have been coping and am pleased to see that you are making progress. How are you doing now?
Hi Notx. It is not at all that easy to answer the question how I feel. After the session I could feel immediate change within me, it was as if all of the sudden I felt more mature, more clear inside, more focused, less petty, I would say. This is probably the immediate result on the healing process done on my soul. But the session itself influenced me deeply in many aspects. It changed my perspective of how I see/perceive things. It change my perspective on people (see them more like souls now), karma, time, incarnations. It changed the way I look at what is going on in the world now. Also Patrick gave me a good mirror.

But the game is not over for me. They did not let go of me, not yet. The devises in me are still active. They still have an access to me and I do not understand why. I am still being worked upon at nights. Recently I had vivid dreams, which I think could accompany their night activities, but they are not obvious for me to interpret, not even sure if they have any deeper meaning. They might or might not mean that my soul started to fight back, but again I am not sure. Now what they do to me hurts me more on emotional level, I feel more angry at them and more humiliated, like a laboratory mouse, before I was suppressing my emotions to be able to cope, I think. I already set up next session with Patrick. Will see, I do believe sooner or later I will be free of them.

Unusual body sensations - I actually woke up after a bad dream and felt vibration in my leg, I focused on this and thought of 'Jesus' as recommended somewhere on the Internet. I felt the vibration move up my leg and through my whole body before my ear popped and it stopped.
I too have got an appointment with Patrick scheduled and hope he can help me overcome some of these issues.
I am not an expert, but based on my experiences it is not what alien activity on me looks like. I hope and I believe Patrick will be able to help you here. Perhaps it is "just workers". :)

I was reading this and only a year ago one of my friends, a bright spark studying maths at one of the best universities in the UK died in a freak accident. He was the most logical man I knew, he had lungs of steel, how this happened to this day makes no sense to anyone. Could it be connected?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2513898/Cambridge-student-Marcus-Hughes-Hallett-drowned-family-holiday.html
I am very sorry for your friend. I think we cannot say for sure what really happened there. Perhaps he shared the fate of young people Ark talked about. Or perhaps he could lose direction, while he was swimming back from the light cave to the dark one, like he had no indicator to guide him, and got panicked them. Just another possibility.
 
rolandp said:
jasminum perhaps you could and will benefit from meditation https://eiriu-eolas.org/online-version/. Do this 6 to 7 times a week and more when it grows onto you. And cut out the carbohydrates in your diet: http://www.sott.net/article/223227-A-Reversal-on-Carbs

http://www.sott.net/article/170772-Low-carb-Diets-Can-Affect-Dieters-Cognition-Skills http://www.sott.net/article/225393-What-if-Its-All-Been-a-Big-Fat-Lie

http://www.sott.net/article/258151-The-paleo-diet-explained http://www.sott.net/article/242431-Paleo-Diet-Works-High-Fat-Diet-reverses-the-Overloaded-Under-fuelled-Condition-A-case-study http://www.sott.net/article/230141-You-Are-A-Radical-And-So-Am-I-Paleo-Reaches-The-Ominous-Stage-3 http://www.sott.net/article/235237-A-Real-Paleo-Diet-Grassfed-Meat-Fat-and-Organ-Meats

http://www.sott.net/article/268889-SOTT-Talk-Radio-Nora-Gedgaudas-interview-Healing-through-NeuroFeedback-and-an-Ice-Age-diet


Along with the other good advice from the responses before this one here. oh yea and :cool2:

Thanks rolandp. :)
You made a big effort to find good materials for me. I found radio talk with Nora Gedgaudas very interesting and helpful. I missed it before, so I appreciate that.
 
Notx said:
Thanks for sharing your experience with the forum jasminum. I was intrigued to be reading about your hard times, how you have been coping and am pleased to see that you are making progress. How are you doing now?

I am new to this area however have been naive and opened up my aura/shield too many potential nasties. I have been reading and building on my knowledge and am going to try changing my diet. Some of the things I can relate some of the things you have been posting. :
1. Strange sounds whilst on the phone - crackling, whistling.... Yesterday I heard some very distorted high pitch screams and I then went to listen to my mailbox to listen to my 2 answer phone messages as said in the text i received, however only listened to one and the other one ceased to exist. In my experience computers generally don't make these kinds of mistakes. I am also sure that I did not press delete, so I am unsure what happened to my second message.
2. Unusual body sensations - I actually woke up after a bad dream and felt vibration in my leg, I focused on this and thought of 'Jesus' as recommended somewhere on the Internet. I felt the vibration move up my leg and through my whole body before my ear popped and it stopped.
I too have got an appointment with Patrick scheduled and hope he can help me overcome some of these issues.


Q: (Ark) Well, once we are on this subject, I want to ask about these mathematicians. Yesterday I learned that from my mathematician friend in Poland about the death of - in our Kairos club - a young mathematician Branson. And apparently he was quite young and for no reason suddenly he died driving a car. (L) In an accident? (Ark) No, while he was driving. Now, he was a friend of the German mathematician who worked with Irving Segal, the young guy that drowned in Clausthal in the lake. There was a conference, and they went for a swim in the lake. People were on the shore watching, and he just sank in seconds and that was all. He was also like 20-some years old. Then we had this Pertti Lounesto, the same club, related to the same area of mathematics, who drowned in the sea a few months after we saw him at the conference {in Cookville, Tennessee}. Okay, and then we had the Russian mathematician who was doing also similar work, and he went to the Black sea for vacation and he drowned. All these young people died, and they are all mathematicians doing very abstract work. It's too many of them to have drowned just by accident. I mean, what kind of coincidence is it? Any comment?

A: It is not a coincidence. It is too bad that so many who are on the right track in so many ways do not have the advantage of knowing about those things that would shield them from frequency driven attacks; such things as diet changes that would protect them from direct manipulation; things such as awareness of other densities. But, of course this last item would have come to their notice.

I was reading this and only a year ago one of my friends, a bright spark studying maths at one of the best universities in the UK died in a freak accident. He was the most logical man I knew, he had lungs of steel, how this happened to this day makes no sense to anyone. Could it be connected?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2513898/Cambridge-student-Marcus-Hughes-Hallett-drowned-family-holiday.html

I highly recommend reading Laura's book The High Strangeness of Dimensions and Densities and the process of alien abductions, because it's not like thinking on Jesus will help you. It actually works as everything related to mainstream religion, as a sedative, it may make the wound or the event feel less painful but it doesn't heal it. I also recommend specially putting a lot of attention on your daily practical human life, because that is the most important aspect if there is an alien or higher intelligence trying to attack you. You may also watch the movie the fourth kind, not as research material but just to compare the intense events and how similar they look to an actual exorcism or someone that is possessed by demons.

Let's quote two interesting things from the book:

Then there was the CIA. By the late 1960s, there were more spies than diplomats in the State Department, or employees in the Department of Labor. [...] When the Weather Underground, a radical splinter of the SDS, had an “acid test” to detect agent’s provocateurs, they had no idea that the CIA had been tripping on LSD throughout the 1950s, creating a special caste of “enlightened agents” for precisely these occasions. [Based on this, we wonder about “agents provocateur” in the New Age and UFO community who are “specially trained?”]

The agency continued its work on mind control. Following the work of Dr. Jose Delgado [experiments in] Electrical Stimulation of the Brain [were
conducted.] This involves implanting electrodes into the brain and body, with the result that the subject’s memory, impulses, and feelings could all be controlled. Moreover, ESB could evoke hallucinations, as well as fear and pleasure. “It could literally manipulate the human will at will”, [said Dr. Robert Keefe, a neurosurgeon at Tulane University.]

By early 1969, teams within the CIA were running a number of bizarre experiments in mind control under the name Operation Often. In addition to the normal assortment of chemists, biologists, and conventional scientists, the operation employed psychics and experts in demonology.

Then

By the early 1970s, there were already means available to alter the moods of unsuspecting persons. A pocket-sized transmitter generating electromagnetic energy at less than 100 milliwatts could do the job. This is no pie-in-the-sky theory. In 1972, Dr. Gordon J.F. McDonald testified before the House Subcommittee on Oceans and International Environment on the issue of electromagnetic weapons used for mind control and mental disruption. He stated: [T]he basic notion was to create, between the electrically charged ionosphere in the higher part of the atmosphere and conducting layers of the surface of the Earth, this neutral cavity, to create waves, electrical waves that would be tuned to the brain waves. ...About ten cycles per second. ...You can produce changes in behavioral patterns or in responses.

The following year, Dr. Joseph C. Sharp, at Walter Reed Hospital, while in a soundproof room, was able to hear spoken words broadcast by 'pulsed microwave audiogram.' These words were broadcast to him without any implanted electronic translation device. Rather, they reached him by direct transmission to the brain.

What this has to do with diet? I think everything, and it may explain a lot of these paranormal experiences. People may think, I'm just nobody why so much attention on me? I don't think is hard for them to put attention on you, they are developing complex and almost magical technology, technology that works as most of people do 90% percent of the job having bad habits. Imagine diet as a way to introduce to our bodies the alchemical ingredients to nurture the body, and a way to introduce the needed materials to corrupt or intervene or make easier some sort of manipulation of any kind.

Neurotransmitters are data packs that let us communicate in so many ways with others and ourselves, but natural neurotransmitters can be replaced. Any type of processed food like bread and any refined carbohydrates have these labels that tells us the ingredients, and being honest we will never even be sure if it is even gluten and carbs , but processed food are processed for no real reason, coffee is between those types of food, and one month of diet will not make a real difference after years of having a bad diet. A family member was having similar experiences as weird cellphone calls and nightmares, this person told me that her diet wasn't that bad, and the fact is that it was horrible, one of the worse diets ever: alcohol (be aware this destroys neurons and atrophy synapses), splenda, lots of sugar (carbohydrates being consumed not by any natural source of nutrients, she did not like to eat eggs or any type of meat that wasn't chicken based on these stupid myths that still surround TV and other full ignorant and supposed sources of information, she drank a lot of coffee and green tea, she never smoked cigarettes, addicted bread, candies, cookies. And she kept this type of diet since she was a teenager. So by having processed foods getting into your brain, these very processed molecules may stick into it and there's actual evidence that these materials destroy the brain, not just that, but with all the evidence of corrupting the atmosphere, eating processed foods is like introducing these artificial products that serve as antennas to be sensitive and susceptible to any sort of hallucinations and appearance of demonic forces, because we make ourselves vulnerable to this advanced technology made specially to affect our cognition.

It may also be the body trying to communicate that we are destroying it, how many things may be altered by destroying our brain or altering its natural processes? a lot ! as the brain is the main core of the body, it is the core of the nervous system and the nervous system is like a tree that grows through the body, and this may be the source of any sort of strange sensations like vibrations, cold fingers, sleep disturbances, auditory and visual hallucinations. Is a style of life that make us disordered, weak, susceptible to any external intervention; people with schizophrenia, or any personality disorder show that the brain is altered by little things like the quantity of serotonin in the synapses.

The diet is super important, not because being fit or because the looks, but because it keeps the nervous system and neurological connections strong, it helps them to rebuild and repair themselves.

My recommendations to start healing the body are not hard to keep: EE or at least pipe breathing, intense cardio (not more than 20 minutes or you will produce unnecessary amounts of cortisol), cardio and sweating helps to detox, make the body alkaline, drink more water (not fluids, water) as it helps to detox too. And believe it or not supplementation, you'd like to go to some trusted nutritionist first (I find this kinda funny, as a professional nutritionist may help you more than reiki to expel those demons trust me !). Keep the paleo or ketogenic diet.

Look to left and right, be aware of everything that enters your field. That little twinkie may have all sorts of demons inside. When I was having these experiences the last year, I was also susceptible of depression, and the main thing causing this was the most lame food ever: a milkshake. Milkshake with I bet a processed fruit, with lactose to what I'm intolerant, processed sugars, processed flavoring, and processed milk (ha! I don't think that milk is 100% fresh and natural).
 
jasminum said:
If you just assumed, that I might be right (give it 1% only), then you would take into account, that the sensation I am talking about is not generally known to people and you cannot relate to it, this is why I cannot possibly covey it to you. So when I say “electrical currents’ or burning sensation, you project sensations that you know from experience, be it your own or others.

How do you know that? In fact while reading your post I realized that this is exactly what I have experienced with my palms during the last few months. The term "electrical current" describes it very well.

M.T.
 
Minas Tirith said:
jasminum said:
If you just assumed, that I might be right (give it 1% only), then you would take into account, that the sensation I am talking about is not generally known to people and you cannot relate to it, this is why I cannot possibly covey it to you. So when I say “electrical currents’ or burning sensation, you project sensations that you know from experience, be it your own or others.

How do you know that? In fact while reading your post I realized that this is exactly what I have experienced with my palms during the last few months. The term "electrical current" describes it very well.

M.T.

No, I do not know that. Rather I cannot be isolated in my experience. If something like this happens to me, it surly happens to others. Whether it relates to somebody from the forum, I do not know. Many things that I wrote before I would not write now or would put them differently, I was acting emotional. And this statement was over generalization. Perhaps some forum members do experience something similar, to lesser or bigger degree, because I know from experience, that intensity can vary a lot. But if somebody felt what I feel in my head at the moment, he/she would have no doubt, what I am talking about.
So my description as ‘electric currents’ still does not help much. You either know what red looks like, or not. The same with the word pain. There are many different pains. If I say I have a toothache and if somebody experienced it, he will know what I mean. If not, how would you explain the toothache.

What you feel in your palms, I do not know. From what I know from sessions, I had (still have) big devices on my crown chakra (and my experience seems to prove it) and on solar plexus and small devices/implants in other places. Whether they use some devises in somebody’s palms, I do not know. According to Cs many of us have implants for different purposes.

During the 2 last sessions with Patrick (especially the last one) I came into the possession of information/knowledge, that others might find interesting and helpful. At least they can provide some food for thought, taken together with other knowledge gathered her. So the thing for me to do was to post it here, but it is not my intention any longer to try to convince anybody to anything.
 
jasminum said:
No, I do not know that. Rather I cannot be isolated in my experience. If something like this happens to me, it surly happens to others. Whether it relates to somebody from the forum, I do not know. Many things that I wrote before I would not write now or would put them differently, I was acting emotional. And this statement was over generalization. Perhaps some forum members do experience something similar, to lesser or bigger degree, because I know from experience, that intensity can vary a lot. But if somebody felt what I feel in my head at the moment, he/she would have no doubt, what I am talking about.
So my description as ‘electric currents’ still does not help much. You either know what red looks like, or not. The same with the word pain. There are many different pains. If I say I have a toothache and if somebody experienced it, he will know what I mean. If not, how would you explain the toothache.

What you feel in your palms, I do not know. From what I know from sessions, I had (still have) big devices on my crown chakra (and my experience seems to prove it) and on solar plexus and small devices/implants in other places. Whether they use some devises in somebody’s palms, I do not know. According to Cs many of us have implants for different purposes.

During the 2 last sessions with Patrick (especially the last one) I came into the possession of information/knowledge, that others might find interesting and helpful. At least they can provide some food for thought, taken together with other knowledge gathered her. So the thing for me to do was to post it here, but it is not my intention any longer to try to convince anybody to anything.

Hi jasminum, sorry if I've missed it, but how are you doing recently with the diet changes? I ask because I used to suffer from a feeling of electrical currents described in this thread, and the experiences went away after my long experiences in figuring out how to eat properly.

I've had three recurrences (lasting about 2-3 nights each) of this phenomena. One was early last year, when I slipped up and ate some gluten. Another one was also early last year, where I ate gluten. And the latest one was over this Christmas just gone, where I ate some stuff at a restaurant that I didn't thoroughly check (probably gluten).

It also seems that you are placing a lot of focus onto the implants and attachments narrative. Although these things may be objectively real in some sense, we can't always be sure. We experience things (feelings, sensations, dramas) and our knowledge is what gives us our narratives to explain our experiences. The more knowledge we have, the wider and more encompassing our life-narratives are, the more power we have to move ourselves forward by coming at our problems for different angles. So while pursuing spirit release and alternate explanations for things in our lives is good, in my opinion doing everything we possibly can to fix our machines physiologically is the first and most important step.

I've found there is much more power for change to be found in healing dietary and emotional issues, and following this path may lead to the removal of what you perceive to be implants and devices in your current narrative (which they may well be, and by raising your FRV via other avenues you create an environment that is not habitable for them).

Just my two cents/something to think about, hope it helps in some way :).
 
Carlisle said:
jasminum said:
No, I do not know that. Rather I cannot be isolated in my experience. If something like this happens to me, it surly happens to others. Whether it relates to somebody from the forum, I do not know. Many things that I wrote before I would not write now or would put them differently, I was acting emotional. And this statement was over generalization. Perhaps some forum members do experience something similar, to lesser or bigger degree, because I know from experience, that intensity can vary a lot. But if somebody felt what I feel in my head at the moment, he/she would have no doubt, what I am talking about.
So my description as ‘electric currents’ still does not help much. You either know what red looks like, or not. The same with the word pain. There are many different pains. If I say I have a toothache and if somebody experienced it, he will know what I mean. If not, how would you explain the toothache.

What you feel in your palms, I do not know. From what I know from sessions, I had (still have) big devices on my crown chakra (and my experience seems to prove it) and on solar plexus and small devices/implants in other places. Whether they use some devises in somebody’s palms, I do not know. According to Cs many of us have implants for different purposes.

During the 2 last sessions with Patrick (especially the last one) I came into the possession of information/knowledge, that others might find interesting and helpful. At least they can provide some food for thought, taken together with other knowledge gathered her. So the thing for me to do was to post it here, but it is not my intention any longer to try to convince anybody to anything.

Hi jasminum, sorry if I've missed it, but how are you doing recently with the diet changes? I ask because I used to suffer from a feeling of electrical currents described in this thread, and the experiences went away after my long experiences in figuring out how to eat properly.

I've had three recurrences (lasting about 2-3 nights each) of this phenomena. One was early last year, when I slipped up and ate some gluten. Another one was also early last year, where I ate gluten. And the latest one was over this Christmas just gone, where I ate some stuff at a restaurant that I didn't thoroughly check (probably gluten).

It also seems that you are placing a lot of focus onto the implants and attachments narrative. Although these things may be objectively real in some sense, we can't always be sure. We experience things (feelings, sensations, dramas) and our knowledge is what gives us our narratives to explain our experiences. The more knowledge we have, the wider and more encompassing our life-narratives are, the more power we have to move ourselves forward by coming at our problems for different angles. So while pursuing spirit release and alternate explanations for things in our lives is good, in my opinion doing everything we possibly can to fix our machines physiologically is the first and most important step.

I've found there is much more power for change to be found in healing dietary and emotional issues, and following this path may lead to the removal of what you perceive to be implants and devices in your current narrative (which they may well be, and by raising your FRV via other avenues you create an environment that is not habitable for them).

Just my two cents/something to think about, hope it helps in some way :).

Thank you Carlisle for your reply.
What I would say is that, there is a lot of knowledge talking about aliens, abductions, devices, implants, Laura has written books about it. William Baldwin for example, wrote about big devices with antennas placed on people’s heads, being described by many people under hypnosis, not knowing each other, not having any knowledge. And here we can perhaps see it being applied in practice, why not to accept, that it can be true. Because it does not happen in real life? So what is all the knowledge about? Just theory? And what if it is true? What if I am being worked upon be groups of aliens for a purpose, whatever it is? Then the group misses the possibility to learn something, and also the group misses the possibility to help somebody, who is asking for help.
Right before I read your post I was sitting and giving myself Reiki and something came into my head, that just frozen me, scared me to death, so I changed my mind and I try again to convince you. :) At least please give me you view on what scared me so much.

I keep asking you for help for few months now, adding more and more info about my situation, hoping you will consider them all together, but I myself did not know, what help I could possibly expect from you, just this is the only place I can look for help. When I remembered that quote, I realized, that by mere intention to understand and to want to help by such a powerful group, the universe would answer. AND what, if I say the truth and such a powerful group does not take into account, that it may be true, and thus treats it as untrue (as false, as a lie?). I wonder, though, what are the cosmic consequences for denying the truth by such a powerful group? What are the consequences for me? Would there be any consequences for me? Would that not empower entropic forces against me?

What I experience is extremely hard for me to bear, my only hope is Patrick. Before the first session with Patrick I was virtually on verge of extinction. It is not something that can be changed by changing the diet. Perhaps it can make it a bit more tolerable.

The session I posted lately was very interesting, if somebody else would post it, there would be a discussion about it. But since it was me and it is a continuation of my story, it was generally ignored. It was not a material, that was not worth considering, but the person who posted it. But that is not objectivity.

Carlisle, would you be so kind as to carefully read three posts of mine, the initial post, then the post with my 2-nd session with Patrick and the last session, look at all these together, bearing in mind, that when I wrote the first post, I did not have any knowledge from the sessions. Please look at the facts and connections, and what transpired during the sessions, also bearing in mind, that Patrick did not know, what I have posted before.
Will you do it for me?

Mod note: removed quote from private board
 
Jasminium, you keep saying that people on the forum think what you're saying is not true. That is not true. When people suggest that diet plays a part that doesn't mean they are discounting your story. It's black and white thinking to say that. You seem to think people aren't helping you when it seems to me that people are trying to help you as best they can. What kind of help do you expect? That people on the forum can remotely remove alien implants? Since you are getting help from Patrick and Heather now that seems like a good thing to try. Outside of that, dietary changes can only help even if they can't solve your problem all by themselves.
 
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