I'm on the Medical Merry-Go-Round

Lisa Guliani said:
Upstairs tenants are up all night long making all kinds of racket, dragging furniture, dropping stuff on the floor above my head, stomping around like elephants, plain LOUD. Tonight, I think they were chopping wood IN the house. My sleep cycle is now completely upside down and intermittent. It's rotten to put up with and nobody will make the people upstairs quiet down. I've tried.
Not sure when the foot pain is worse: when I'm vertical, sitting or lying down. It's all the same. I'm hoping this improves soon.
I was using earplugs, but they started making my ears very tender, so I've had to stop that.

Do you use these earplugs?

http://www.noodzaken.nl/alpine-sleepsoft-geluiddempende-oordopjes-nachtrust-p-848.html

According to the website they adapt to the ear after a few minutes. And they breathe, so to speak, so no difference in air pressure.

Lisa Guliani said:
That there is some pain involved while doing the FIR sauna suggests that there is some changes going on. How long are you staying there and at what temperature?

I started out staying in the blanket for 20 minutes and increased the time to 30 after three days. I wear sweats and keep my socks on, as suggested to me by Laura. Temp is set to those recommended in the literature that came with the blanket except for the feet area.
38 - upper limbs
44 - waist and buttock
but for my feet, I lowered the setting to 38.
both Laura and the surgeon agreed to set that temp lower.

FWIW, Lisa. Last year I had some extra support from Marc from GetFitt, who sells FIR blankets.
He told me that people with serious conditions only use the blanket for a minute or so in the beginning. They can't do more. I have no serious condition that I am aware of and even for me 20, let alone 30 minutes, was too much (according to Marc). I started between 10 and 15 minutes and only after a month or so I could have a longer session of 40 minutes. I was too enthusiastic in the beginning (as many people are ;)), so I had two sessions of one hour for two days. The second day it felt as if I was coming down with a terrible flu! That is why I went back to 10 up to 15 minutes.

Did you listen to that podcast of the Crew and Marc about the FIR blanket?

http://www.get-fitt.com/videosandpodcasts.htm
 
Hi Lisa, with that kind of family history and your past history of the sympathetic reaction, I am certain you are consulting the wrong specialist. Talk to your primary physician to see if a referral for an integrative medicine doctor can be made, ideally an Internal Medicine doctor trained in functional/integrative medicine. I did a search in Pennsylvania and there are several, I just don't know if they work in a system that will be covered by your health insurance. You need some blood work testing other than the ANCAs. All autoimmune markers and immune system components should be tested. Also all virus markers, vitamin and mineral levels and ideally toxicity levels of several compounds. It is surprising how one gets a problematic virus without any significant past exposure. A dentist visit could do it. Vascular surgeons don't know how to interpret these tests correctly. When you tell them you are a smoker, this somehow arrests their thinking capability and they start to believe it is all due to the smoking part.

If you can't get hooked up with an integrative medicine doctor, at least get a referral for a doctor or someone who can test all virus, immune markers related with autoimmune diseases, other than the measurement of inflammatory markers, hormonal, vitamin and mineral levels. If the rheumatologist didn't do this, then prolly is best to see a "all body doctor", i.e. Internal Medicine. You would still be able to network about alternative therapies here, but at least you have a chance of working with someone who is not so stuck on the label of "smoking=vascular problems".

From what you are saying, I still get the impression that you are not typically those people who have a weird allergy to the tobacco plant and develop serious obstructions in their arteries among other clinical manifestations. I think you are self-medicating with tobacco. IF I where you, I would not say I'm a smoker to help them docs think out of the box. But I understand the situation you are in. Also, I don't know how it works in the US. Over here, once you are a smoker on the electronic medical history, any doctor will know it whether you like it or not.

If you are not able to increase your time in the FIR sauna, then the trick is as follows: do the time you tolerate, whether 15' or 30', but do it at least twice per day. If it goes alright, try 3 times per day. If not cut back. With time, you will be able to increase your time on the sauna.

I don't know about the oral DMSO, it can have some serious detox reactions in some. You could give it a try though, but I would be careful.

If you are taking C crystals 1/2 teaspoon 3 times per day, that is way too little. You should titrate to bowel tolerance. Just to give you an idea, I'm tolerating 6-8 full teaspoons these days for adrenal support ONLY.

If there is an autoimmune reaction or health problem related with your vessels, I would not be surprised if you tolerated 20 teaspoons (or more) throughout the whole day before the onset of tummy gurgling and/or diarrhea. If you don't take enough vitamin C, it would not be able to help you. And vitamin C is the one thing that can help you because Vitamin C also helps manufacture collagen, vital for the health of all our tissues and the repair of blood vessels, teeth, joints and bones. It also helps to normalize blood pressure. It is vital so our immune systems can fight viruses, bacteria and other microbes. Vitamin C is also important in the synthesis of brain chemicals such as our happy mood neurotransmitter - serotonin. From "The Experience of Robert F. Cathcart, M.D.- Oral Vitamin C, Titrating to Tolerance published on Medical Hypotheses, 7:1359-1376, 1981 and available here:

"The following problems should be expected with increased incidence with severe depletion of ascorbate: disorders of the immune system such as secondary infections, rheumatoid arthritis and other collagen diseases [blood vessels have collagen on them], allergic reactions to drugs, foods and other substances, chronic infections such as herpes, or sequelae of acute infections such as Guillain-Barre' and Reye's syndromes, rheumatic fever, or scarlet fever; disorders of the blood coagulation mechanisms such as hemorrhage, heart attacks, strokes, hemorrhoids, and other vascular thrombosis; failure to cope properly with stresses due to suppression of the adrenal functions such as phlebitis, other inflammatory disorders, asthma and other allergies; problems of disordered collagen formation such as impaired ability to heal, excessive scarring, bed sores, varicose veins, hernias, stretch marks, wrinkles, perhaps even wear of cartilage or degeneration of spinal discs; impaired function of the nervous system such as malaise, decreased pain tolerance, tendency to muscle spasms, even psychiatric disorders and senility; and cancer from the suppressed immune system and carcinogens not detoxified; etc. Note that I am not saying that ascorbate depletion is the only cause of these disorders, but I am pointing out that disorders of these systems would certainly predispose to these diseases and that these systems are known to be dependent upon ascorbate for their proper function."

This is something that the liposomal vitamin C should take care of. Around 35-40 grams of vitamin C in liposomal form will be the equivalent of getting a super duper megadose in IV vitamin C form. That is the kind of dose you need.

The sleeping part can be problematic due to pain, but it is essential. A good sleeping cycle goes a LONG way towards healing. Can you find a sleeping condition where you will feel comfy, but your feet will hang? In that way, blood is circulating by gravity and you will have less chance of waking up due to pain. How about those big fluffy chairs that are reclining. That way you can put it into a somewhat horizontal position, but your feet will hang down. Something like this, but more comfy:

reclining-chair-2401174.jpg


There are several tricks to prevent infection in your wounds and/or help them heal faster. One is to use a topical compound with silver on it. In pharmacies they have creams used for burns. But there are gels with colloidal silver on it. Another possibility is to make your own sprayed solution with the C crystals:

The experience of Fred R. Klenner, MD, Journal of Applied Nutrition Vol. 23, No's 3 & 4, Winter 1971.

http://www.orthomed.com/klenner.htm

There is an increase demand for ascorbic acid in burns especially when epithelization and formation of granulation tissue are taking place. Limited amounts of ascorbic acid to a dose range of 300 mg to 2000 mg daily, in divided doses, have been capable of hastening the healing of wounds by producing healthy granulation tissue and also by reducing local edema. It also made antibiotic therapy rarely necessary. A 3% ascorbic acid solution as a spray over the entire area of the burn can be used every 2 to 4 hours for a period of roughly five days.

Are you at 0 carbs or getting there? I thought I would mention that if you are still eating carbs for transitioning purposes, make sure they are as most neutral as possible, i.e. green beans seems to be fairly well tolerated. A lot of veggies have evil lectins on them that set off the immune system in a bad way, for instance, tomatoes and aubergines. Also, I'm not sure if you should be eating eggs or nuts at this stage. Are you doing well with the diet transition?
 
Lisa I just got caught up on this thread and wow, you are a warrior. I wish you the best and hope your financial situation isn't causing you any extra stress right now. I know that Laura said that FOTCM would be more than willing to help, so I hope you know that you're worth every single penny and more!!!!

:hug: :hug:
 
Lisa - what you're going through sound awful. In addition to everything else mentioned on this thread, I thought of tissue salts (they're known as cell salts in America). They're not a high strength medical 'sledge hammer' but they do work slowly and subtly over time. One of them improved significantly my circulation over a period of months after a nasty virus some time ago. They're in homeopathic dilutions. I did a google search for 'reynaud's tissue salts' which turned up some info you may find helpful.

This page suggests

Cell Salts to Help with Raynaud's

To make a cell salt solution, put up to 10 tablets of each cell salt in a 16- to 24-ounce bottle; fill with water and swirl to dissolve tablets. Sip throughout the day. Learn more about cell salts >

#1 Calc fluor 6X – connective tissue health
#4 Ferr phos 6X – inflammation, hands hot and swollen
#12 Silicea 6X – pain between toes, connective tissue strength

The same page also has suggestions for herbs and homeopathic remedies.

Here's a page with detailed info and links on the cell salts.

This page has several suggestions for alternative remedies for Raynaud's, including Gingko Biloba to boost circulation.

Hang in there! :hug:
 
I'm with Psyche on the doctor issue, with this caveat: when you are out of options and tolerance, its time to look very hard at what you have been refusing to do.

I'm a stubborn, contrary, mercurial Snark-monster. That means simply that I 'get it'. Psyche's hunch echoes the same one I'm getting, you've been self medicating with tobacco. It also sounds like you're body/mind connection is tight enough that any emotions that overwhelm you are dumped directly into corresponding body systems.

It looks like this to me: you're dealing with a reactionary medical system that quit trying to help you the second you confirmed you're a smoker. Once you said that, they shut off. You are convinced smoking is one of the only things that is helping you. (Just as I used to think life without coffee was unthinkable, which is something I still wrestle with. It is the same conviction.)

How angry does it make you when the doctors tell you to quit smoking? That could be a signpost leading you into the mind/body connection here.

Could it be time to try stopping smoking to find out for sure?

I'm not suggesting this for any reason than opening an option you may be refusing to see/try/experiment with. I've been where you are, Lisa, and I feel keenly for you.

:hug2: :hug2: :hug2:
 
Endymion said:
Lisa - what you're going through sound awful. In addition to everything else mentioned on this thread, I thought of tissue salts (they're known as cell salts in America). They're not a high strength medical 'sledge hammer' but they do work slowly and subtly over time.

Good point. Also, taking enough magnesium should be essential. People with low magnesium levels due to stress or other health problems have spasm in their vessels, so in that sense magnesium works to open up the vessels again. It is the relaxing mineral par excellence.

Magnesium malate sounds like a good one to me, because the malate part will give energy to the cells and it is readily absorbed. At least 850mg of magnesium malate per day spread throughout the day would be very helpful.
 
Psyche said:
Endymion said:
Lisa - what you're going through sound awful. In addition to everything else mentioned on this thread, I thought of tissue salts (they're known as cell salts in America). They're not a high strength medical 'sledge hammer' but they do work slowly and subtly over time.

Good point. Also, taking enough magnesium should be essential. People with low magnesium levels due to stress or other health problems have spasm in their vessels, so in that sense magnesium works to open up the vessels again. It is the relaxing mineral par excellence.

Magnesium malate sounds like a good one to me, because the malate part will give energy to the cells and it is readily absorbed. At least 850mg of magnesium malate per day spread throughout the day would be very helpful.


It should be good for circulation as well. Here's some info on magnesium, circulation and Raynaud's Disease:

http://www.livestrong.com/article/530120-magnesium-circulation/#ixzz2KQ9CVPYF
Benefits for Circulation
Magnesium relaxes and thus opens your blood vessels and arteries, helping your blood to circulate more efficiently than when blood vessels are constricted. This helps lower your blood pressure and allows your heart to work in a more relaxed and less strained manner. Nicola Reavley, a nutritionist, writes in her book, “The New Encyclopedia of Vitamins, Minerals, Supplements and Herbs,” that magnesium can help to break up blood clots. This allows more efficient flow through blood vessels. Reavley also notes that magnesium helps to make your heart muscle work better.


http://www.livestrong.com/article/545281-magnesium-raynauds-syndrome/
Effects of Magnesium on Raynaud's Syndrome
If you have Raynaud's syndrome, magnesium supplementation may benefit you. The University of Maryland Medical Center recommends taking 200 milligrams of magnesium three times daily with meals for Raynaud's syndrome. This can help the blood vessels dilate, allowing blood to flow to the fingers and toes. A 2008 article in "Rheumatology International" states that individuals with fibromyalgia, which can coincide with Raynaud's disease, were found to have lower serum magnesium levels than healthy subjects. There is an overall lack of research studies on the specific relationship between magnesium and Raynaud's disease, so consult your doctor before using it to see if it may benefit you.


http://www.drbriffa.com/2002/01/12/poor-circulation/

One of the most common causes of poor circulation is a condition known as Raynaud’s (pronounced ray-nodes) disease. Here, constriction in the blood vessels can stifle the circulation, which in turn can lead to coldness, numbness and discomfort in the fingers and toes. Typically, when first exposed to the cold, the affected digits turn white, then blue, and then finally red once they warm up again. As they warm, it is not uncommon for the fingers and toes to become excruciatingly painful for some minutes.

From a dietary perspective, sufferers of Raynaud’s disease would do well to avoid caffeine in their diets, as this substance is known to promote constriction of blood vessels. A useful alternative to caffeinated drinks is ginger tea. Ginger contains substances that ‘thin’ the blood and relax the blood vessels too. These combined effects mean that ginger may help provide relief from the symptoms of Raynaud’s disease. To make ginger tea, simmer about a one inch cube of grated or finely chopped root ginger in two pints of water for about 10 minutes. Many find drinking the resulting brew throughout the day will have a significant warming effect in their hands and feet.

Another natural approach to Raynaud’s disease is to take a supplement of the mineral magnesium. Magnesium may help to reduce spasm in the vessels of the fingers and toes and, in practice, can often reduce the frequency and severity of Raynaud’s attacks. 300 ” 500 mg of magnesium should be taken every day. Yet another natural substance renowned for its circulation-enhancing effects is the herb Ginkgo biloba. In my experience, many Raynaud’s disease sufferers find that taking Ginkgo biloba gives them tremendous relief from their symptoms throughout the winter. The normal recommended dose of Ginkgo biloba is 120 – 240 mg of standardised extract per day.

Vitamin B3 (in the form of niacin) is well known to enhance the circulation, but can also induce flushing in the skin that some people find quite unpleasant. An alternative to niacin is the nutrient inositol hexaniacinate. Actually a molecule of inositol (loosely classified as a B vitamin) complexed with six molecules of niacin, this compound appears to help enhance the circulation without the side-effects common with niacin. 500 mg of inositol hexaniacinate, taken 2 ” 4 times a day may help control the symptoms of a poor circulation, though it might take two months or so before improvement is seen. Experience shows that those suffering at the hands of the inclement weather may well be helped by one or more of these hot tips.

Here's a forum post about someone who eliminated her Raynaud's symptoms using transdermal magnesium:

http://www.city-data.com/forum/alternative-medicine/1180458-raynauds-cure.html

I have had Raynaud's for 20 years. That is where your fingers go white in temperatures under 70 degrees, and if you don't put them in hot water they can turn black. Well, I was reading online where someone said that magnesium oil cured hers. I have taken magnesium for over 2 years without help but decided to try it in oil form. You rub it on your wrists. I did this twice a day, and it took almost two weeks to cure the problem. If I don't use it, it comes back. Gloves, the suggested use, never worked for me. If any part of my body got cold, my fingers would turn white. Now I can even walk in the snow without gloves and without any problems. I even went into overkill at first and put the oil up and down the inside my arm to my elbow, but this perhaps was not needed. I also noticed that it works better after a shower when the pores are open.

Transdermal magnesium absorbs well into the body, and would be great for footbaths. You might also apply some to your body for a a sauna blanket session so it really gets absorbed into the body. Just be careful around any sores on your feet - probably best not to apply it to any wounds. Your body will deliver it to the tissues that need it most - particularly if it is applied to areas that have a lot of lymph nodes like under arm pits.

Magnesium Malate absorbs well too, and doing either before bed will also help with getting a solid nights rest.
 
Gimpy said:
It looks like this to me: you're dealing with a reactionary medical system that quit trying to help you the second you confirmed you're a smoker. Once you said that, they shut off.

Lisa, it is disheartening that you have to deal with that system in the condition you are in. The problem is compounded in that the specialty that you are consulting is not pro-humanitarian by any chance. Whether human or not, psychopathic traits are absorbed by doctors in certain fields because that is what the system encourages in order to be able to "make it". Vascular surgery, as is all the surgical fields are typical examples. I might have a clue or two since I was a heart surgeon :/

Ideally you should be with someone that is open minded and more a healing enabler, rather than "your doctor". Even then, don't hold your breathe over the smoking part. It takes more than an open mind to be able to get over it. Some serious deprogramming, nothing that will happen over night. But someone you can work with as an equal on your health journey would certainly make a lot of difference.

As far as I understand, the only test you had to see your vessels was a doppler and even though there was poor circulation it didn't say anything like a percentage obstruction in any one vessel. So I don't see how a vascular surgeon is the answer here. A mechanic will not give you any realistic solution when you have something more systemic/functional going on. In the off chance that you might need some steroids at some point, it is better if they are given by someone who understands more about the body's physiology and its immune and hormonal system.
 
Hi Lisa - I just found this thread (due to another notification failure or lost e-mail).

My mother (and I ) have been dealing with circulation issues in her legs since at least 2008. She was originally diagnosed with claudication/calcification of leg arteries resulting in peripheral artery disease and poor circulation to the feet. Interestingly, images of the arteries clearly showed streamers where they were regrowing paths around the blockages. Back in 08, a naturopathic MD did the heartbeat tests on her feet that showed the same results you got (in one foot you could barely detect the heartbeat). He used acupuncture with elec stimulation that produced no effect. He also conducted many EDTA chelation treatments - also to little effect. She has periodically suffered cold hands/feet with blue/purple toes.

With my help/direction she has been taking the enzymes nattokinase and serrapeptase for many years to thin the blood (without prescrips) and reduce the stroke risk (she is considered high risk for stroke - see this thread http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic,26324.msg315387.html#msg315387). This has also helped with her circulation. After years at daily high doses, there has been no detectable side effects - so this is one thing that might be good to try in your case [see purebulk.com for nattokinase in bulk]. Note: she also did many FIR treatments and a period of internal DMSO - 2 years ago.

Over the last 6 months she has transitioned to the full KD with me - amazingly smooth for her. She has become much more cold-tolerant with house ambient temps dropping at least 5 deg. About 2 weeks ago we noticed much swelling/edema in her feet/ankles and a return of purple toes. I ordered an electro-stimulation unit and began applying 4P-IF current (I'll get to that below) to her feet and upper legs (I avoid the lower legs due to varicose veins in one leg). Today, after about 5-6 days of treatment, the swelling is gone, the toes are pink, and her feet are warm! This really does seem to work well.

4P-IF stands for four pole interferential current - an electro-stim protocol that uses 2 sets of electrodes on each leg/foot to set up an interference (beat) pattern achieved by 2 slightly different frequencies centered around 4KHz. One set of electrodes runs at 4KHz - the other at 4KHz + f1, where f1 is the desired beat freq (usually set between 1 and 100Hz or swept over a narrow range in there). Treatment time is about 40 min per site.

4P-IF is selected for deep treatment, vasodilation, and nerve stimulation. Other stim protocols in this class are TENS and Russian pulsed. The unit I have will do all of them, but 4P-IF is what you want. These protocols are well-known and usually covered in health plans even though many docs are unaware of them (or they think they are just for sports injuries). See if your doc will refer you to a clinic that does the electro-stim.

The way it works is: you go to the clinic for the first few treatments where you learn electrode placement and how to operate the device. Then they send you home with it to use daily or twice daily at your own convenience.

This may be worth trying in parallel with suggestions already discussed.
 
I'm sorry to hear that you're going through all of this Lisa--it sounds awful! I mainly want to second the suggestion for acupuncture--not because I think it will be powerfully effective as a treatment, although with the right practitioner and enough time I'm sure it would help--but because they'll do a pulse diagnosis (taking your pulse at different points that tells them the state of your organs) on you and that might provide valuable hints as to what's going on. Plus it should be generally beneficial regardless of being totally corrective.

I think you might be in State College, PA--if you are, there are actually two "community" acupuncture clinics that you might want to check out. A "community" acupuncture clinic is one where you aren't secluded in your own room with a full hour dedicated to you (even though you're lying down with needles in you for most of the time)--you're usually in a room with some other people relaxing with needles in them (this is what I've read--I've never done it myself). This makes it much cheaper than more typical western acupuncture. Here's the two I found:

_http://upwrightchi.com

reviews for them:

_https://plus.google.com/100988614492635170253/about?gl=US&hl=en-US

_http://statecollegeacupuncture.com/

reviews for them:

_http://local.yahoo.com/info-73361828-community-acupuncture-center-state-college?tab=reviews

I've been to a 5-element balance method acupuncturist before, actually (though I think I prefer the Japanese-style acupuncturist I went to for some time) and he seemed to have some powerful techniques, though I can't say that 5-element theory is my preferred acupuncture style, but this may just be because it's the one that I understand the least. The second one isn't as clear about what techniques he uses. I personally feel better about the first one than the second, subjectively, but also because the first one is cheaper--if he doesn't really know what he's doing, you're only out $30-50 for the session, depending on what you choose for the sliding scale, and I think it's a really low chance that the session won't provide at least some benefit. Both are quite cheap for acupuncture, though.

I would suggest asking as many questions (what's your diagnosis? what's going on with my organs specifically? what does the diagnosis mean?--whatever else you can think of) about the practitioner's diagnosis as possible and letting us know here so we can try to cross reference it to a physical issue that can be corrected.

The other thing that came to mind, in the same vein as acupuncture since the Japanese-style acupuncturist I saw used this technique (but not on me), is if you can find a place or alternative practitioner that uses medical leeches to stimulate the blood flow to your feet. I've heard of leeches being used after severed body parts are reattached to stimulate the blood flowing into them again with good results. I recognize that this seems somewhat extreme and I've had a tendency to choose the more extreme option when searching for a treatment, so I could be way off base here--but if the alternative is some kind of amputation or surgery in two weeks, then anything that gets blood flowing to your feet should be a good thing, I think (and I could be wrong).

Also, have you gotten any blood work so far with all of these doctors (if they're not too busy blaming smoking to actually do some real research and testing, that is :rolleyes:)? It seems like they should do some basic blood work (CBC--with full differentials, if possible--maybe thyroid work, testing some nutrients that could be lacking and possibly causative for this, etc) and that may also provide some kind of clues as to what's causing the issue.

Do you have any other major symptoms, even if they're not related to your feet/circulation? Maybe cross referencing them all will make the picture clearer.

Have you also tried just having a heating pad on or under your feet for extended periods of time? If you're on the computer a lot, then it should be a good time to just be heating your feet. There are some small FIR heating pads that might also help, since they're heating and FIR. Here's one I'm thinking of:

http://www.amazon.com/Therasage-Healing-Black-grey-Small/dp/B003JK1TR6/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1360463999&sr=8-2&keywords=therasage+heating+pad

I also looked at warm socks for a while, and these seemed to be the warmest ones based on reviews:

http://www.amazon.com/Carhartt-Mens-Artic-Heavy-Socks/dp/B0051U15IU/ref=pd_sbs_sg_3

They're men's socks and the sizing thing says that the smallest size they have is 9-12 for women, so I'm not sure if they'll work for you. Unfortunately, I don't see an equivalent from them in smaller/women's sizing.

I'm sure that between all of us here, we can find a solution that's better than amputation. Take care Lisa and I hope you find something that works soon! :flowers:
 
I just wanted to give you moral support, Lisa. You've been given really great insights already, and I think you should try several of them at the same time to increase the circulation.

Hoping you get better soon. :hug2:
 
LQB said:
4P-IF stands for four pole interferential current - an electro-stim protocol that uses 2 sets of electrodes on each leg/foot to set up an interference (beat) pattern achieved by 2 slightly different frequencies centered around 4KHz. One set of electrodes runs at 4KHz - the other at 4KHz + f1, where f1 is the desired beat freq (usually set between 1 and 100Hz or swept over a narrow range in there). Treatment time is about 40 min per site.

4P-IF is selected for deep treatment, vasodilation, and nerve stimulation. Other stim protocols in this class are TENS and Russian pulsed. The unit I have will do all of them, but 4P-IF is what you want. These protocols are well-known and usually covered in health plans even though many docs are unaware of them (or they think they are just for sports injuries). See if your doc will refer you to a clinic that does the electro-stim.

LQB, does the electro-stimulation unit do something similar to what PEMF units are supposed to do in terms of increasing microcirculation? There are a couple of PEMF studies which indicate that this might be potentially useful:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14656663

PURPOSE: Pulsed electromagnetic fields (PEMF) are used clinically to expedite healing of fracture non-unions, however, the mechanism of action by which PEMF stimulation is effective is unknown. The current study examined the acute effects of PEMF stimulation on arteriolar microvessel diameters in the rat cremaster muscle. The study hypothesis was that PEMF would increase arteriolar diameters, a potential mechanism involved in the healing process.

METHODS: Local PEMF stimulation/sham stimulation of 2 or 60 min duration was delivered to the cremaster muscle of anesthetized rats. Arteriolar diameters were measured before and after stimulation/sham stimulation using intravital microscopy. Systemic hemodynamics also were monitored during PEMF stimulation.

RESULTS: Local PEMF stimulation produced significant (p<0.001) vasodilation, compared to pre-stimulation values, in cremasteric arterioles in anesthetized rats (n=24). This dilation occurred after 2 min of stimulation (9% diameter increase) and after 1 h of stimulation (8.7% diameter increase). Rats receiving "sham" stimulation (n=15) demonstrated no statistically significant change in arteriolar diameter following either "sham" stimulation period. PEMF stimulation of the cremaster (n=4 rats) did not affect systemic arterial pressure or heart rate, nor was it associated with a change in tissue environmental temperature.

CONCLUSIONS: These results support the hypothesis that local application of a specific PEMF waveform can elicit significant arteriolar vasodilation. Systemic hemodynamics and environmental temperature could not account for the observed microvascular responses.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22952041

Hindlimb ischemia is a major complication of diabetic patients due to poor neovascularization. Therapy with pulsed electromagnetic fields (PEMF) can promote angiogenesis in ischemic lesions. However, the efficacy and therapeutic mechanisms of PEMF in diabetes-related hindlimb ischemia are unclear. Sprague-Dawley rats were injected with streptozocin to induce diabetes, and 10 weeks later diabetic rats were subjected to surgical induction of acute hindlimb ischemia. The rats were randomized and treated with PEMF, and the blood perfusion of individual rats was determined longitudinally by laser Doppler perfusion imaging (LDPI). The neovascular density was examined using immunofluorescent analysis of CD31 expression and alkaline phosphatase (AP) staining. The levels of VEGF, VEGFR, FGF-2, and FGFR1 expression, and ERK 1/2 and P38 phosphorylation in the muscles were characterized using enzyme-linked immunosorbent assay (ELISA) and Western blot assays. The values of LDPI in the PEMF-treated rats at 14 and 28 days post surgery were significantly greater than those in the controls, accompanied by significantly elevated levels of anti-CD31 and AP staining. The relative levels of FGF-2 and FGFR1, but not VEGF and VEGFR expression, and ERK1/2, but not P38 phosphorylation, in the muscles of the PEMF-treated rats were significantly higher than those in the controls. Our data indicated that PEMF enhanced acute hindlimb ischemia-related perfusion and angiogenesis, associated with up-regulating FGF-2 expression and activating the ERK1/2 pathway in diabetic rats. Therefore, PEMF may be valuable for the treatment of diabetic patients with ischemic injury.

The drawback is that I'm not sure how easy it is to locate a PEMF unit that could be used regularly in a cost-efficient way. If an electro-stimulation unit can achieve the same effect, however, that might be a preferable and more convenient alternative. Doing a search on Google gives some examples of what is available.

Lisa, I wanted to offer my support as well -- it does sound really awful, and I hope that we're able to help you figure out workable protocol for you that helps turn this situation around.
 
Hi Lisa..I just wanted to voice my support for you as well. I don't have anything to add except you are in my thoughts as you go through these trying times. :hug:
 
Gimpy said:
I'm a stubborn, contrary, mercurial Snark-monster. That means simply that I 'get it'. Psyche's hunch echoes the same one I'm getting, you've been self medicating with tobacco. It also sounds like you're body/mind connection is tight enough that any emotions that overwhelm you are dumped directly into corresponding body systems.

It looks like this to me: you're dealing with a reactionary medical system that quit trying to help you the second you confirmed you're a smoker. Once you said that, they shut off. You are convinced smoking is one of the only things that is helping you. (Just as I used to think life without coffee was unthinkable, which is something I still wrestle with. It is the same conviction.)

How angry does it make you when the doctors tell you to quit smoking? That could be a signpost leading you into the mind/body connection here.

I listened to the SOTT radio show on psychopaths, where you called in. Although your contribution was beautiful, OSIT, I did wonder about the grief that you expressed (and I am not saying grief is bad). Are you suffering from PTSI? Because it seems to me that you have gone through quite an ordeal, not just health wise. Sorry, I haven't read all your posts. ;) But have you for instance read the books on trauma, like Peter Levine's? What other steps have you been taking to get your stress under control?

Take care, Lisa, I do so enjoy your articles and contributions to the radio shows. Hang in there.
 
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