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If most UFOs are 4D STS, which is basically demonic, then contacting them is indeed akin to contacting demonic forces.
Imminent Alien Disclosure?
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That link returns a blank, but this one seems to work. I had to go to @digustipated42's direct feed to get it. X is weird that way sometimes.
According to John Blitch, who appeared in Coulthart's special, Dave Grusch is the one who put him in contact with Jake Barber and his team, specifically with the goal of giving them some support to go public.
I can't remember which podcast it was on, but one of the hosts reached out to Grusch, who clarified that Barber wasn't one of his 40 witnesses during the UAPTF investigation, so Grusch only met him after that. This suggests at the very least that Grusch doesn't find Barber's claims outlandish - probably matches with stuff he already knows.
I can't remember which podcast it was on, but one of the hosts reached out to Grusch, who clarified that Barber wasn't one of his 40 witnesses during the UAPTF investigation, so Grusch only met him after that. This suggests at the very least that Grusch doesn't find Barber's claims outlandish - probably matches with stuff he already knows.
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I think this info fits into this context because it repeats the methodology they are using with respect to the ‘UFO measuring’ phenomenon and how governments, in this case the French government, cover them up.
Following this, aircraft have been seen mapping the area with methodical precision in night flight, which has raised many questions, reportedly with a very specific mission: to conduct thermographic studies to identify thermal losses of public buildings.
These low altitude “sweep” overflights allow very high resolution photos to be taken and precise topographic and geographic data to be collected.
Pourquoi un avion a-t-il fait de mystérieux allers-retours dans le ciel du Havre et de son agglo ?
Plane been making strange zigzags in the skies over the Pyrénées-Orientales
On Thursday, January 9, some residents in the area of Perpignan and the Roussillon plain between France and Catalonia, captured on video a “luminous ball” that crossed the sky for almost a minute,Following this, aircraft have been seen mapping the area with methodical precision in night flight, which has raised many questions, reportedly with a very specific mission: to conduct thermographic studies to identify thermal losses of public buildings.
These low altitude “sweep” overflights allow very high resolution photos to be taken and precise topographic and geographic data to be collected.
Pourquoi un avion a fait d'étranges zigzags dans le ciel des Pyrénées-Orientales ?
Pourquoi un avion a-t-il fait de mystérieux allers-retours dans le ciel du Havre et de son agglo ?
I would like to gather video materials from whistleblowers who have been popping up like mushrooms lately. The current that is pushing the truth to the surface is strong. Whether someone is consciously letting them do this to carry out a fake invasion or something similar is hard to say at this moment from my perspective. Here is a list of what I wanted to post here and hear your opinion on:
Luis Elizondo:
David Grush:
Jacob Barber:
This show of Steven Greer's contains 3 whistleblowers.
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Here is Bob Lazar's appearance on Joe Rogan's show.
Steven Greer's opinion on the topic of UFOs recently across the United States.
Is Steven Greer mentioned in any transcripts and why does he always think that all kinds of extraterrestrials are good for humans? At first, I thought he was inserted to spread disinformation and stir the pot, but maybe he just truly believes all of this.
If this has been discussed anywhere on the forum, please transfer me there :) Thank you!
Luis Elizondo:
Battle For Disclosure (2024) (Hardcoded Subtitle).mp4
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Is Steven Greer mentioned in any transcripts and why does he always think that all kinds of extraterrestrials are good for humans? At first, I thought he was inserted to spread disinformation and stir the pot, but maybe he just truly believes all of this.
If this has been discussed anywhere on the forum, please transfer me there :) Thank you!
Hello, I know it's a big ask but if you read through this thread of 96 pages, you'll see it contains discussions of all those whistleblowers, including Greer. And, because it is somewhat unique - at least in terms of its 'intensity', and the publicity it received - there's another thread here on the 'New Jersey drones'. And no, I don't think Greer is specifically named in any of the transcripts. That may just simply be because, to us, he's so transparently wrong on so much of the topic that we've never felt the need to ask about him.
A Republican congressman, Tim Burchett again, casually discussing the presence of alien bases underwater - and their having come here from light years away - with recently-hired One America News anchor, Matt Gaetz.
Does this count as 'disclosure'?!
Does this count as 'disclosure'?!
At this point it's pretty clear that disclosure is a process of drip feeding information into the public sphere in order to slowly, very slowly, acclimatize the population to the 'reality' of some kind of NHI. So no one event or statement can ever be called "disclosure".
We should also remember that most of this information is NOT reaching the average person, except indirectly, perhaps even by something akin to the "collective unconscious".
SOTTREADER
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Two that have stood out to me recently:
Arrival - I'm sure everyone has seen this. If you haven't, you should!
Midnight special - not necessarily "invasion" more along the lines of first contact.
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Yup, none of this information is reaching the average person. Most ppl around me only remain concerned about day-to-day life, and pursuing things to improve their own individual lives and live as society says. Very few are concerned about any of these other stuff or care much about it.
Barber's full interview is up. I'm half way through, and it's much better watching it unedited like this. You get an idea of the limits of his knowledge - e.g. there are certain things he just doesn't know, or wasn't told, so he is left to come to his own conclusions on certain things. It's also an interesting look into the world of "non-official cover," front companies, etc.
His colleague Fred Baker's will go live tonight:
His colleague Fred Baker's will go live tonight:
Tim Alberino gives his Christian interpretation of Barber's claims. (He also interviewed Elizondo recently, sharing his views that the Grays are evil.)
He makes some good points, re: the emotion of the experience, pointing out the obvious: you cannot judge the intentions of another being based on the feelings they produce in you.
Now, in the full interview, Barber makes it clear that he doesn't even know if the craft was occupied. It may not have been. So here what I think the options might be in this case (broadly speaking - I can think of several more variations):
1) He encountered a negative entity that made him feel these emotions.
2) He encountered a positive entity that made him feel these emotions.
3) His proximity to the craft simply opened up his higher emotional center, and the emotions were a secondary effect not directly tied to the craft or its "pilots."
I lean towards option #1. He says repeatedly that the connection he felt is still with him, that he feels the NHI themselves want "disclosure," and that he and his team will facilitate this.
If that happens, I hope Trump will establish a UAP czar (the rumor in the UFO community is that this is a very real possibility), and that he puts someone like Grusch or Elizondo in charge. Barber sounds like he is being used by beings for purposes he does not fully understand. Guys like Grusch and Elizondo seem to have enough objectivity to be cautious about NHI intentions.
Alberino also throws out some interesting speculation on the Nordics: that they are "angels" of the bible (good and bad), or that they are a human antediluvian race that either survived underground or went off-planet. He shares stories he's heard from the villagers of the Andes mountains who describe Nordics arriving in flying saucers, healing the sick, and taking off. He points out that it can be difficult to tell whether an angel or Nordic is good or bad, thus the biblical advice to "test the spirits."
He makes some good points, re: the emotion of the experience, pointing out the obvious: you cannot judge the intentions of another being based on the feelings they produce in you.
Now, in the full interview, Barber makes it clear that he doesn't even know if the craft was occupied. It may not have been. So here what I think the options might be in this case (broadly speaking - I can think of several more variations):
1) He encountered a negative entity that made him feel these emotions.
2) He encountered a positive entity that made him feel these emotions.
3) His proximity to the craft simply opened up his higher emotional center, and the emotions were a secondary effect not directly tied to the craft or its "pilots."
I lean towards option #1. He says repeatedly that the connection he felt is still with him, that he feels the NHI themselves want "disclosure," and that he and his team will facilitate this.
If that happens, I hope Trump will establish a UAP czar (the rumor in the UFO community is that this is a very real possibility), and that he puts someone like Grusch or Elizondo in charge. Barber sounds like he is being used by beings for purposes he does not fully understand. Guys like Grusch and Elizondo seem to have enough objectivity to be cautious about NHI intentions.
Alberino also throws out some interesting speculation on the Nordics: that they are "angels" of the bible (good and bad), or that they are a human antediluvian race that either survived underground or went off-planet. He shares stories he's heard from the villagers of the Andes mountains who describe Nordics arriving in flying saucers, healing the sick, and taking off. He points out that it can be difficult to tell whether an angel or Nordic is good or bad, thus the biblical advice to "test the spirits."
I couldn't manage to read everything that evening when I decided to join; it's incredible how many topics are covered here, I didn't even suspect it :). Thank you so much for such a clear and precise statement.
Agreed. I listened to the extended interview and I believe Barber is sincere - that is, he believes what he is saying and as far as he knows, the facts he presents are correct. But clearly, he leans towards aliens being angelic and knows nothing of evil aliens. He even had praise for Greer and his CE-5 attempts to contact them! Also, he thinks that the military get such a bad rep that they don't deserve, that generally military types love their country and that's why they do what they do.
Btw, I've always thought Greer is mind-controlled or brainwashed for the role he's been playing. Who the mind-controller is, I don't know, but my bet is 4D STS. (I can't stand him).
Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if practically all of the events he related were factually true. It's his interpretations I don't trust.
Technically, I agreed with him on that. Some people rag on Greer because they think CE-5 doesn't work. For me, yes, of course it works. The beings just aren't what Greer thinks they are. He's basically a traitor to the human race, in my opinion.
I think that is generally true, so no disagreement from me there.
Same here. He's actually done a lot of good work as part of the Disclosure Project. As an example: getting Donna Ware's testimony, without which Gary McKinnon would never have found those UFO pictures on NASA's computers. But his interpretations of the phenomenon are completely backwards. I can't stand him for that reason, either.
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