Inside the Laurel Canyon...

[sankara]

Re: Inside the LC(Laurel Canyon):.........

In 1972, the photographer Robert Franck made a documentary on the Rolling Stones called Cocksucker Blues.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cocksucker_Blues

It used to be on the internet recently but they say it has been deleted. The band had wished that it remained hidden for decades.
This document, if you can find it is revealing of the period Dave writes about.

 

[NormaRegula]

Re: Inside the LC(Laurel Canyon):.........

Just another bit of depravity from John Phillips of The Mamas and Papas fame: His daughter MacKenzie Phillips recently claimed that her father raped her as a teenager...then the sexual relationship turned consensual. Sick.


_http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090923/ap_on_en_tv/us_people_mackenzie_phillips;_ylt=AnT_i9qLuCPqRDVppV7L0sa2GL8C;_ylu=X3oDMTE1ZzdhaHI5BHBvcwMxBHNlYwN5bi1jaGFubmVsBHNsawNtYWNrZW56aWVwaGk-

 

[anart]

Re: Inside the LC(Laurel Canyon):.........

He also taught her how to shoot up. What an evil, evil man. Here is a shorter link use, I couldn't get the yahoo one to load: http://www.cnn.com/2009/SHOWBIZ/TV/09/23/mackenzie.phillips.oprah/

 

[NormaRegula]

Re: Inside the LC(Laurel Canyon):.........

Yeah, introducing an eleven-year-old girl...be she a daughter or someone else's child...to progressively worse and worse drugs is totally evil. No wonder Mackenzie is so messed up. Hope bringing it out into the open helps her to heal.

From the CNN article:

She said that her father shot her up for the first time in her teens and that he was the one to give her step-by-step instructions on how to shoot cocaine. A few years later, just after she turned 18, Phillips was arrested when she was found collapsed on quaaludes on an L.A. street.

Phillips said her father's response was, "Congratulations! Now you're a real Phillips. Now you know that even though they caught you, the rules don't apply."

Spoken like a pathological. Think next time I hear California Dreamin, I'm going to shudder.

I was literally raised on rock n roll of the sixties/early seventies as my dad was a Top 40 DJ along with his TV gig. What a weird, sick world we live in. A lot of stuff is just not what it seems.

 

[Kel]

Re: Inside the LC(Laurel Canyon):.........

I heard Mackenzie Phillips yesnterday in a interview on the Oprah show.

She said she still loves her dad. She said he was not a bad person, just a really sick person.

I wanted to scream out at her: HE WAS A BAD PERSON! Sick and Bad. Evil. Horrible. Horrible. He did drugs in front of her since she could remember and encouraged her to do the same. He taught her how to shoot up. He raped her while she was high and then when she asked him about it later to see if she had dreamt that it occurred, he said, OH, you mean when we made love? Then proceded to have sex with her numerous times when she was high. Then she said she just sort of fell into this consentual sexual relationship with him that lasted a long time. This ended when she found out she was pregnant and she didn't know if the father was her husband or her Dad. She had an abortion and told him that was the end.

This is just so horrifying to me--how someone could do this to their own daughter AND still maintain this loving family-man, folk singer out to change the world persona. Total sociopath/psychopath.

BTW, her sister Chyna believes her, but her step-mother, Michelle Phillips, thinks she's making it up.

This is just another indication of the evil that oozes from the L.C.

 

[Be Like Water]

When reading this LC series, and comments here, one of the things popping into my mind is the idea of "psychic projectors"http://www.cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=11824.0, and a 4D induction process towards STS. Culture management, if you will.

Also, in relation to the idea of impressions as a form of food, and music being one of the most influential impressions, it can be as addictive as television and less obvious. And it can be just as addictive to be the food giver, priest, superstar or author, osit.
So, how much identification has Dave with his status as truth giver? Enough to assume he knows without checking his premise? I do not think he is being deliberately misleading, but he could be being deliberately mislead.

Either way, I know know a lot more about the early rock scene than I suspected.....next time I hear the mama's and the papa's in a social context, what reactions do you think I'd get if I just told it how it was? :( :O

Funny, in that I have been building a (very simple) metal detector, and a main component is an oscillator made from an inductor (L) and a capacitor (C), abreaviated as LC, fwiw.

 

[manitoban]

This is just so horrifying to me--how someone could do this to their own daughter AND still maintain this loving family-man, folk singer out to change the world persona. Total sociopath/psychopath.

BTW, her sister Chyna believes her, but her step-mother, Michelle Phillips, thinks she's making it up.

Ugh!!! This is truly horrifying all right. And to think this man has been a hero to so many music fans around the world all the while being a depraved monster.

I read somewhere that Mackenzie's response to Michelle Phillips statement that she made it all up was - She's either in denial or protecting the Mamas and Papas brand.

Talk about pyschopaths getting themselves into positions of power over other people, this evil man influenced millions!

 

[NormaRegula]

Part XVII of the "Inside the Laurel Canyon" series posted on SOTT today: http://www.sott.net/articles/show/209194-Inside-The-LC-The-Strange-but-Mostly-True-Story-of-Laurel-Canyon-and-the-Birth-of-the-Hippie-Generation-Part-XVII

Sheesh, only Dave McGowen could write a paragraph like this one:

Of course, just because Clark's inner circle seems to have been drawn from various nefarious occult groups doesn't mean that we should leap to any conclusions about Gene himself, even if his wife was an avid occultist, and even if he was the product of a multi-generational cult town, and even if his sibling was sacrificed stillborn on a major occult holiday, and even if his first home was right across the street from a body drop funeral home.

Still, a very interesting...and creepy...read.

Hollywood and the music industry do have a lot of skeletons - and pentagrams - in their closets.

 

[cholas]

I agree with you, NormaRegula, definitely creepy. There were a few things mentioned that caught my attention.

She(Terri Messina) and Gene moved in together in the summer of 1977. According to Einarson, Messina "laterally work[ed] in film editing, [but] she was better known in exclusive circles as a supplier of cocaine." And heroin. As has been previously discussed, during that time period the "entire Laurel Canyon lifestyle revolved around cocaine," and "Gene fell into line, becoming a legendary partier."

The Wonderland Gang mainly trafficked in the burgeoning cocaine trade of the era, but despite its role as being the most influential and feared cocaine distributorship of its time in Los Angeles, most of its members were actually heroin addicts. Drugs were regularly dealt from a residence at 8763 Wonderland Avenue in the Laurel Canyon area of Los Angeles.

Reminds me of the movies Wonderland and Blow, which are loosely based on actual events.

Days later, David Carradine caused quite a stir at Gene's open-casket memorial service. Former bandmate Pat Robinson remembered it well: "When Carradine came up, he wasn't as much drunk as he was on acid, I think, and his girlfriend and business manager at the time was there with him. And we're standing there and Carradine says, 'You cocksucker ...' and grabs Gene by the lapels. When you pull somebody up from a coffin and they have nothing inside for guts they bend higher up. It was really shocking to see that. And Carradine goes, 'You pissed on my daughter when she was thirteen.' And he said it pretty loud and then he says, 'I saw him snicker, boys, heh heh.' Oh, man, that was weird.

And of course David Carradine was an actor and talented musician with quite a similarly turbulent life. And death......surprise, surprise.

His death occurred in June 2009, under unusual circumstances.

Imho, it's always interesting to read Mr. McGowan's writings, especially this series and also good to see his apparent increased usage of references, footnotes and/or quotes.

 

[JEEP]

A decade or so later, in the 1840s, a group of German immigrant families arrived in the area - the Nieuffers, the Lutzs, the Kammerichs, the Schmidts, the Hoens, the Shrecks and the Sommerhausers.

My family's name is Lutz. I checked with my mother (82), who's done a lot of family genealogy, but my dad's line apparently never was in Tipton, Mo. Growing up, we rarely encountered the name Lutz outside of our own relatives, but nowadays, I see it fairly often.

It does boggle the mind just how depraved the lives of famous musicians, rockers, and other performers of our youth were and still are (the ones still alive). Exposure of their sordid sides might have derailed careers in the past, but today such perceived behaviors expressed through music videos seemingly adds to popularity with today's youth lapping it up (think Lady GaGa). It's a mad, mad, mad, mad world!

 

[Mrs.Tigersoap]

This series is really great and, I must add, was really necessary for me. My parents used to listen to all these bands and I was myself a huge Doors fan when I was a teenager. And I had a soft spot for Zappa (oh my...). So this series really sobered me and shocked me.

For those who like Punk/Punk rock music, a great book to read is Please Kill Me by Legs Mc Neill. It's like the LC series but for the Punk scene. I had always liked Lou Reed, Patti Smith, etc. and although this book is not as provocative as the LC series, it sure gives an insight into these people and who they really were. Jeez, Lou Reed was (is?) sick! And Patti Smith, Bowie and Iggy Pop were (are?) real narcissits. When I began reading it, I had no idea it would kill so many sacred cows, and I damned the book several times!

I have a question I've been meaning to ask for the longest time: how can these really disturbed characters (and sometimes full-on psychos) as those of the LC or in the Punk movement write such beautiful songs? For example, 'Just a Perfect Day' by Lou Reed is a gorgeous song (and God knows Lou Reed is some shady character), and there are many wonderful songs in the LC movement as well.

 

[Al Today]

I'm a little uncomfortable about comments like the Byrds, (and many many others) were just krappy bands. I take that back, I've seen a lot of krappy bands... The crowd I hung out with from the late 60's & early 70's were trying to be in perfect tune. And I gotta say, for all those krapped up gigs where the band sucks just screams out at me that the audience must have been in as bad or worse (intoxicated) than the bands themselves. I just think if my buds and me were at those gigs, we woulda thrown stuff at them. Wait, that;s punk rock, yes? Anyway, just boggles the imagination that such success can he had when you're krappy. I definitely didn't hang around the "right" crowds... Then again, be happy with what you have...

 

[rs]

I don't know any more about this whole series. I found it very interesting up until the author went on this digression about how the moon landings were faked. I know that there has been a great deal of overall discussion amongst "conspiracy theorists" about this, but most of the objections have long been laid to rest. The problem I had with the "moon landings were faked" series (or at least as much of it as I could stomach reading...) was that his point seemed to be "I don't understand how they could have done this, therefore they didn't." It wasn't just that he was claiming to "debunk" the moon landings, it was that he did such an incredibly bad job of it.

I have no way to independently substantiate or prove any of what Dave writes about Laurel Canyon, so after the moon landing rantings, I am even more suspicious than I might normally be.

 

[JEEP]

The problem I had with the "moon landings were faked" series (or at least as much of it as I could stomach reading...) was that his point seemed to be "I don't understand how they could have done this, therefore they didn't." It wasn't just that he was claiming to "debunk" the moon landings, it was that he did such an incredibly bad job of it.

Geez, I thought he did a credible job, especially with the correlation between the launches and the progress of the Vietnam war - that made a lot of sense to me. I now think we really did go to the moon, but most if not all of the televised scenes and photo ops were staged. I really doubt that the space program that was supposedly utilized for these missions actually was capable of accomplishing them. Maybe the secret space program was really what got the job done - or I could be totally wrong along with McGowan.

 

[anart]

I don't know any more about this whole series.

I get your point, in general. He really does take small pieces of information and just run full speed with them. I also find the LC series not completely credible. I do find it interesting, to a point, though. If even 1/10th of what he puts together is true, it's a pretty damning picture in general and gives a good glimpse into the wholesale control and manipulation of the public mind through entertainment - that it's all 'created' and controlled.