Is Coffee Good or Bad for you?

Laura said:
I also noticed that I actually do not LIKE coffee as much as I thought I did; I like my tea better taste-wise.

From an ex coffee drinker ;)

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I have for a long time had a kind of drive to get organized and on with the business of the day each morning. I noticed when I quit drinking coffee that a component of this was actually being caused by the coffee itself. I would only drink coffee in the morning and rarely more than a cup and a half, but I really noticed the absence of a very subtle type of tension after quitting it.

Since people have been experimenting, I decided to try a 1/4 cup of coffee the other morning and also discovered I don't like the taste as much as I thought I did. I like the taste of tea much better and there is none of the subtle tension effect.
 
My Mom, had to take two different types of eye drops, for glaucoma, one to help further reduce her high left eye pressure, this one caused her severe discomfort, she could hardly see, after using them.

Caffeine – was the only thing I found that had some evidence of effecting eye pressure, so I asked my mum since she drinks coffee, if she would give the caffeine a miss, for a while.

Though that meant her tea as well since it to contains caffeine, she said she wouldn’t, but would get decaffeinated tea and coffee, dirty water as my sister calls it.

A month later she had an appointment with the specialist, and her eye pressure was down, six months later, she’s still off the painful drops, and her eye pressure is still, o.k.

Caffeine was the only thing taken off the menu, it’s elimination seems to have made an improvement to my moms quality of life.

She was on the painful drops prior to that for a year, and no real improvement, eye pressure always on the high side.

Though I cant say the elimination of Caffeine cured the problem, but it seemed to help considerably, so far so good.

Edit: OMG errors
 
venusian said:
Since people have been experimenting, I decided to try a 1/4 cup of coffee the other morning and also discovered I don't like the taste as much as I thought I did. I like the taste of tea much better and there is none of the subtle tension effect.

I had 1 large coffee cup yesterday and noticed some of the negative effects people had reported. It was way too much coffee. So I'm going to cut back to twice a week of the small cup coffee kind which is like one or two thumbs of coffee to see if there is any difference.

I notice that coffee feels very thick on my palate.
 
I had more coffee, and after a few days felt like my body didn't fully like something about it, though it was subtle. I also pulled some all-nighters around this time to get things done for my studies. Now, though, reading the feedback from others on their coffee experiments, I think the raw nose I experienced at the end may have more to do with the coffee, the consumption of which I increased at the end.

During the last day or two of the coffee experiment and also for a few days afterwards, I also experienced nausea after eating (ie. after bone broth) - but no other symptom. Now, though, it's clear I've caught some stomach bug or virus; after several days of no other symptoms, it got worse - not horrible, simply reducing capacity to work and keeping me from eating any bone broth or proper amounts of fat (since that would make me nauseous).

Whether coffee was a factor in making me susceptible, I don't know. Too many all-nighters during a fairly brief period of time probably did their part, too - where, living on bone broth, I guess I was invigorated enough not to notice any ill effect at all until I stayed up one night too many. In short, I asked for it and got it.
 
I'm going to reduce coffee as well. I'm not done with experimenting so I'll have a cup in the morning once every 3-4 days and see how that goes. Reason is now fatigue has crippled in - the sleep is not smooth enough so fatigue has accumulated. Back to tea for the most part.
 
Laura said:
My report on the coffee experiment:

It's hard to tell if it was damaging in any way. What I noted was:

2) extra phelgm production

6) don't sleep as well even if only have coffee in morning

I seems to be observing these symptoms for sure. I seems to start enjoying coffee too. Time to go with caution,
 
I'm without coffee now for about 36hrs too and I'm not sure if it was all caused due to the coffee, but: tooth pain gone (sensible feeling), back ache gone, sensible stomach to fat gone.

So far I never found an article and this question is bothering me since a long time, but why are we addicted to things that harms us actually?
 
If you take Coffea with Homeopathy it is for: tooth pain, and also insomnia. They said if you take too much coffee you can have the symptoms of what Coffea is curing. Coffea, in homeopathy is good also for heart palpitations. Also good for headaches. So I think coffee is good but not too much. I love coffee. I am unable to stop to take coffee but next week I will buy the tea that Gandalf is talking, the Oolong tea... to see. For my part, when I stop to take coffee I have headaches and insomnia! :shock:
 
Psyche said:
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I had 1 large [mug] yesterday and noticed some of the negative effects people had reported. It was way too much coffee. So I'm going to cut back to twice a week ...
Ditto, my experimenting with quantity went over the top, and was compounded by eating some chocolate too. :) I ended up 'knocked out' in the evening with a mild form of vertigo, which is slowly disappearing today.

Edit: Bone broth came to the rescue. :)
 
Gawan said:
I'm without coffee now for about 36hrs too and I'm not sure if it was all caused due to the coffee, but: tooth pain gone (sensible feeling), back ache gone, sensible stomach to fat gone.

So far I never found an article and this question is bothering me since a long time, but why are we addicted to things that harms us actually?

I'm 48 hours along and boy, do I feel so much better! It's interesting that the reduction in feeling good can creep up on you so subtly.

Yeah, I had a headache yesterday from going cold turkey, but I cured it with tea and naproxen.

Also, I realized after reading other responses that I SHOULD have listed heartburn as well but I actually didn't think that it was related until now when it is completely gone even after having fatty bone broth and bacon for breakfast.

Like I said, the most amazing thing for me was to realize that I actually don't LIKE coffee even though, for years I declared that I LOVED it. What I loved was the lift it gave me that was a lift from an already abnormal state. Now, having been a couple years, and most especially since going keto, in a state of constant, stable energy where the brain is sharp and there are no wild fluctuations, I realize that the coffee was just boosting me only to let me crash until the next cup. Now, the "buzz" wasn't so pleasant because it came at the cost of destabilizing my now normal steady, sharp energy. So, there was a different kind of feedback loop over the past days of the experiment: drink coffee -> get buzz which actually feels unpleasant relative to normal energy state -> followed by slump and sleepiness ->difficulty sleeping -> feel mildly yucky in the morning -> drink coffee -> and so on. Only the feeling yucky in the morning kept getting more severe in increments.

I don't think that anybody can make a judgment about coffee in their diet until they have cut it out completely for a significant period of time and have established a truly stable energy/state of clarity based on proper human nutrition, i.e. protein and fat with minimal to no carbs.

Also, the cream has shown itself to be tolerable in occasional dishes, but not something that is good on a daily basis. That's good to know, but obviously, I know that if I eat it I will pay a small price.
 
Laura said:
I don't think that anybody can make a judgment about coffee in their diet until they have cut it out completely for a significant period of time and have established a truly stable energy/state of clarity based on proper human nutrition, i.e. protein and fat with minimal to no carbs.

I think your right, wishful as I was.. :rolleyes:
(my spineless personality has allowed me to not stop ever, even though I've been in ketosis for at least a year now, as I get so depressed and tired when I try, that I can only crawl up in bed and feel that life is not worth living without)

Laura said:
Also, the cream has shown itself to be tolerable in occasional dishes, but not something that is good on a daily basis. That's good to know, but obviously, I know that if I eat it I will pay a small price.

Creme is one of the very few foods I've been missing on the diet, so I've tried a few times, and have found that a little creme one day goes, but definitely not 2 or 3 days (and it is really hard not to eat the rest, once it's in the fridge, and really hard to throw out something so delicious)
It gives me inflated stomach, and swollen feet, that takes up to 3 weeks on pork only to cure, so for me it is a no go (or I find the prize I pay not worth it)

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Miss.K said:
I get so depressed and tired when I try, that I can only crawl up in bed and feel that life is not worth living without

That's probably how you know you have to stop drinking it (sorry! I know it's not easy, but your poor adrenals might need a chance to learn to stand on their own two feet again, so to speak?).

I had stopped drinking coffee for several years before recently experimenting with it again. While I got satisfaction from drinking it, and didn't become too excitable like I used to when going over a certain threshold, I look back at the fact that I came down with not one but two bouts of flu-y sickness (very raw nose, like Laura mentioned, heavy sneezing fits, and feeling stuffy and feverish) in the space of the ten days I was drinking it.

So I've decided at this point that coffee, certainly on a regular basis, is not for me. I wonder if the coffee very subtly compromised my immune system (even though I felt great) and that is how I came down with my first colds in ... well, a long time! In fact, my symptoms could simply have been part of an allergic reaction to the coffee.
 
Kniall said:
While I got satisfaction from drinking it, and didn't become too excitable like I used to when going over a certain threshold, I look back at the fact that I came down with not one but two bouts of flu-y sickness [...] I wonder if the coffee very subtly compromised my immune system (even though I felt great) and that is how I came down with my first colds in ... well, a long time! In fact, my symptoms could simply have been part of an allergic reaction to the coffee.

So that makes two who clearly got sick. And in my case, (stomach sickness) there's no doubt it's an infection rather than simply a reaction, given the way it's now progressing after the end of the experiment.
 
Miss.K said:
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Laura said:
Also, the cream has shown itself to be tolerable in occasional dishes, but not something that is good on a daily basis. That's good to know, but obviously, I know that if I eat it I will pay a small price.

Creme is one of the very few foods I've been missing on the diet, so I've tried a few times, and have found that a little creme one day goes, but definitely not 2 or 3 days (and it is really hard not to eat the rest, once it's in the fridge, and really hard to throw out something so delicious)
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I've found that clotted cream is very 'moreish' :), and so far, having it on a daily basis has led to no obvious, or discernable problems. As far as coffee is concerned, I think it's a matter of finding the right amount, and what frequency - for me.
 
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