I found a interesting "insider take" on the US 'intel' view of the Israeli conflict, true or not, it seems to my to hit many points that have been somewhat confirmed or are strongly suspected. I will try to format it as well as I can to make it more readable as the site its taken from is not the easiest in terms of layout.
Sorry for the language being what it is, but i have not edited it except a small part to add clarity in one place.
GovAnon here. Truth is that Israel has a stranglehold on all media leaving and entering Israel because of how dire the situation is there, hence why you aren't getting much info.
>Hezbollah is winning
>upwards of forty merkavas destroyed
>Israel claims only 10
>most people think it's only 20
>They're outdated garbage-tanks
>moving tombs
>we have eyes on and know this for a fact
>at least 200+ IDF dead and 1000 mangled in the north
>north Israel completely evacuated
>Hezbollah has held Israeli land for almost two weeks
>massive losses in Gaza
>Iranian generals on the ground
>IDF is absolute trash
>We've lost multiple Delta Force because of it
>IDF morale is nonexistent
>IDF deserting
>a dozen countries warships in the Med
>all monitoring the US
>our allies included
>all intel going to our enemies
>nothing we can do
>Houthi rockets are pounding Tel Aviv
>we had no idea that they even had these missiles
>actually forgot about them being a possible threat
>Iran is vastly more competent than we knew
>don't even know where Hamas tunnels are
>can't even prove they exist
>their intel is way too advanced
>US bases in Iraq/Syria getting pummeled daily
>someone might be feeding our enemies intel from the inside
>US troops no longer have loyalty
>US won't enter fully because of oil potentially being cut
>afraid Turkey will leave NATO
>US can't get Israel to stop genocide
>we're considering standing by and watching IDF get slaughtered
>waiting on a false flag
>will just feed them intel in the meantime
>"wish ya all the best!"
The whole thing is an insane cluster fuck and we have our hands tied right now. Israel is alone in this and all options are on the table, that includes leaving. I'm sitting here staring at a monitor wondering what the fuck in even doing with my life during this chaotic insanity. We really are about to see WWIII
"isn't this what yall were saying about Ukraine? That Ukraine was winning when it was clearly losing? shutup bro"
>We're saying Israel is winning.
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they are losing tanks trying to limit civilian casualties .. by going into close quarter terror dens to do surgical strikes
when tanks runout, they will drop collateral damage bombs using planes and undetectable F35s
they will only lose if they try to limit civilian deaths"
>The F35 isn't, has never been, and is never going to be combat capable. It was a scheme for politicians to siphon money.
"How are you holding up?
Think Israel would use nukes?
What future would you hope for?"
>I'm miserable. My contract is up soon and I'm financially set for life, so I'm going to escape to a plot of land I bought in nowhere, Alaska. Wife left with the kids a couple years ago, and that was all that kept me living life. I'm gonna watch WWIII unfold from a secluded cabin and enjoy my hot cocoa.
"Bump. Pretty obvious when they sent 2 carriers that this was bigger than Gaza. If it’s WW3 I’m volunteering to go. Anything better than sitting here…
Did we really move 10k troops into Saudi Arabia?" (
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>We have way more than 10k in KSA, but just irrelevant because we're losing troops left and right due to Mark Milley fagging up the military. No one's joining anymore. I mean, it's ten times worse than you can imagine.
"Any idea about Syrian involvement?"
>Syrian involvement is limited. They still have a lot to do in order to get Syria cleaned up. Syria is definitely being utilized by Iran to train soldiers and send weapons, but they have barely enough to hold off the jewish/American proxies fighting in Syria.
"Basically what a Marine Corps recruiter told me last week. Will it turn the corner, culturally, maybe with him gone now?"
>Absolutely not. The US is in freefall. Those that would have traditionally joined the military are joining other groups to get training, and are taking alternative routes to fill the void that the military would have filled as little as six or seven years ago. The issue is that the military attracted a specific type because of what it represented, now it's just a gay orgy, and no one wants to join anymore.
"The US has over a million active duty servicemen."
>This doesn't mean shit. The majority are fat now. Yes, as in more than half. A bunch are undeployable trannies. A bunch are undeployable due to past injuries. A bunch are meeting the end of their contracts and leaving. A bunch are foreigners who don't give a shit about the US. Most of all though, Mark Milley put almost every last bit of emphasis on suicide stand downs, sexual assault training, and faggot alliance events. Our military is a completely untrained force of homos and that's it. We're having a major competency crisis.
"well no surprises there, israel is only as strong as the USA and your country has been on self destruct mode for a while now
that being said, israel is still more then capable to destroy gaza and south lebanon, and hamas is not a real army but a soficticated militia, thats why they are managing to push in regardless, and 200+ dead and 1000+ wounded is not that much
"US troops no longer have loyalty"
no wonder there, your army was filled with patriotic white christians that stomped iraq and afganistan in two weeks, while now patriotic white christians are demonized in the us military on every turn.
The us army nowadays are dominated by joggers(
neologism for black person), fags and women, all three demographic groups that will surrender to the enemy or desert in any sort of real conflict, or even threat of conflict"
>The IDF of the 1960s has been gone for decades. After they lost in 2006, something happened and they never recovered. They've just never been able to regain any past momentum and their younger generation is all gay and liberal, so they don't want to fight anyway."
"no one's joining anymore
it's 10x worse than you imagine
Who the FUCK thought it was a good idea to turn one of the last bastions of masculinity in the west into the poster child for queers and drag-queens? It may be worse than reported, but it is definitely not worse than I imagine.
I'm seeing reports floated of a draft to combat the low voluntary enrollment numbers. What do you think the chances of that are?
"alaska"
Hoping to just keep your head low or are you going to privately build a bunker?
"wife left with kids"
My condolences. Feel like expounding on that any? Feel free to just ignore that if desired.
Just curious if it was something like you keep taking work home or just standard fare story due to modern times."
>Drafts are a thing of the past. There's no way to enforce one anymore because the US is no longer united. Yeah, we've discussed it, but only boomers live in that world anymore, and it's only in their minds. We know that a draft would result in complete chaos and might actually unite people for the sole purpose of saying no to the draft and we don't need that shit right now because everything is a mess as is.
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Do you think that the US has been subverted at the highest level?
I ask that with regards to China especially.
It is mindboggling in how many ways and dimensions the US is destabilized/divided.
Economically, culturally, politically, industrially, financially, morally, militarilly… and the list goes on and on. This can‘t be just by accident."
>The US is in a weird state right now. I don't know how to describe it, but it's been stripped completely bare and it's as if the people at the top left without turning off the lights because they realized there was nothing left to steal before the shit hit the fan, and we just haven't realized it yet. I could write a capstone thesis on it, but I ain't doing that right now.
"Lol, the vaccine thing probably didn't help and the marine commandant just had a vax attack Sunday. Fucking retards."
>That's what killed us. All our best troops fled the moment they were told they HAD to take the vaxx. Oh well! Not my fucking problem. When my supervisor told me I had to take it or I'd be fired, I looked at him and said no, then got back to work and it was never brought up again.
"I have a very strong anti-Jew bias, but if this were true Israel would agree to a cease fire"
>Israel realizes it has to finish off Palestine now, or never. That's it. They'll do whatever it takes, even if it kills them. They always fail as a people and empire and they're at the end of their life.
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>F35
Israel was using the F-35 to take out S-300 and maybe S-400. F-35 is the only plane proven to be operational in Russian AA range. These same AA systems are lethal to anything else."
>The F35 is an inoperable piece of shit. Israel takes out anti missile systems by flying a plane with a civilian call sign for cover, then flies an F15/F16 above it and bombs AA sites. It's an international crime, but no one will do anything.
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This guy gets it. The US is having one of the worst recruiting shortfalls in decades and IRR reserves are at their lowest since Vietnam, i.e. ~75,000. Meanwhile the military is hemorrhaging talent because of DADT being repealed, and you have the diversity hires remaining in key positions. This puts Biden or any future president in a massive dilemma because it all but guarantees that getting into a hot war would require the draft, and that would be political suicide and you'd have a national mutiny on your hands in the form of riots and protests. And rightly so--- the era of young americans obediently lining up to serve in wars in some far away shithole for the economic ambitions of the ruling class are long gone. Gen Z will absolutely revolt if there is a draft implemented to send them to fight for Israel, which the overwhelming majority of them hate. Same with if they were sent to Taiwan/China or Ukraine/Russia. These wars make for great political rallying points and culture war slogans, but that falls apart quickly when the reality sets in of actually going over there to kill and die. People today don't drink the koolaid with propaganda and nationalist manufacturing of consent.
FYI, the periodical that the US Army War College puts out (which just had an issue weeks before this war) had an article estimating that based on how Ukraine has gone, a US war with another advanced power would cost 3600 casualties per day, absolutely necessitating a draft to replace dead or injured troops.
Biden and the next president will have to play a tricky game of chess to avoid having to go into a hot war, where they will fund and arm proxies or resort to bombing campaigns and surgical strikes. It's over for the next US leader who declares real war"
>The issue is that during eras like Korea and Vietnam, we could just pull up to a young boomers house and he had nowhere to run. If he wasn't at home, he was at work. Gen Y is now too old, and Gen Z doesn't work or have homes, so we can't do anything to find them or punish them if their family/friends decide to hide them.
"they are not the same army and their capabilities are severely depleted, that being said the IDF is still more powerful then all of their neighbors combined, and that includes egypt, the only real military in the middle east at this point is iran"
>They're not, and never have been a competent military. Read their history and you'll see that the US/UK/France always did the legwork for them, and they used mercenaries to do their fighting on the ground. People forget that their first real war was the Yom Kippur war. They lost so badly that Golda Meir resigned. The US had to intervene and save them. The first and only war they ever fought unilaterally was against Hezbollah in 2006 and they got CRUSHED!
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Well written, that‘s also my impression from across the Atlantic.
I remember the reputation and status the US had in the 90s, and comparing it‘s current state to it is insane.
It‘s as if China weaponized capitalism, fully understanding that if your country‘s/society‘s main goal is essentially „male money“, then this is a major achilles heel open for exploitation for an adversary.
The US as they are now are severely weakened and demoralizedin so many ways, that I doubt even an expert in subversion would be capable of imagining all the ways your country has gone down the shitter.
Here in Germany, it‘s not different: ruli g politicians here are fucking everything (literally EVERYTHING) up to such a degree, that it‘s becoming increasingly harder by the day to believe that it‘s not intentional.
I wonder how the lastdays of Rome must have been."
>What's bizarre about our case, is that our enemies never had to lift a finger. They just sat by and watched as we destroyed ourselves. We left the door wide open, and they walked right in because no one was ever going to stop them. A prime example was the Shia Crescent. We fought tooth and nail to prevent it from happening, but destroyed Saddam, the only person capable of keeping it from forming, then we left Iraq and naturally the only regional power capable of keeping stability, Iran, stepped right in and created the Shia Crescent over night.
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Sir, I have a few questions.
If the hezb has claimed 200 idf soldiers and destroyed 40 merkavas, wouldn’t that info be readily available?
Are you saying the number of casualties is kept secret by both the idf, Hamas and the hezb ?
Is there any prior history of the idf hiding its casualties and deaths ?
Why is there no escalation by the idf in Lebanon ?
the us has a massive fleet parked near by, wouldn’t they engage Lebanese targets if that’s the case ?
How is the us losing elite army personal over there, wouldn’t their role be mainly supportive rather than an active engagement role ?
Lastly, how is gov personal with this much valuable intel posting on 4chan, are you not in danger to post this ? What are you getting out of this ?
I would really appreciate your answers"
>There's no real way for Hezbollah to get information to the west, as well, they're extremely tight lipped about everything and always have been. In fact, after 2006, the only reason anyone knew how many soldiers they lost, was because Hezbollah orders the exact number of caskets needed for their dead and they aren't secretive about it. Israel won't say because a) they don't actually know how many Hez have died, and b) they don't want the world to know they're losing. Israel will keep the media on lock and do whatever they can to lie about their losses forever if at all possible.
"Saying a draft is impossible is akin to rich people saying the economy is great right now.
The lens through which you analyze the situation is scratched irreparably."
>There isn't an apparatus for drafting young people anymore. They don't work, so we can't take their money. They aren't static, so we don't know where to find them. They don't have hard addresses, so they can just deny ever getting a draft letter. We really fucked ourselves.
"How many casualties has the Ukraine really taken? No-one buys the 70k KIA figure."
>Lol, 700k. Ukraine is done. Not a single Ukrainian fighter from the beginning of the war is still alive, or fighting. At this point we're just using slave armies. I won't go into detail too much, but we just cruise around the globe kidnapping people and cutting them deals; fight and gain possible freedom, or be indefinitely detained and beaten 24/7
""we can't do anything to find them"
You say that as if each of them weren’t carrying a GPS equipped tracking device on them."
>That would be a civil right disaster that we wouldn't win. I think you know this.
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i knew about the debacle of the 2006 war but have not read up in detail on their previous wars and i definitely will
i think in the modern context their only saving grace is that their enemies in the form of hamas are absolute trash, and that they have unlimited toys from the USA to just carpet bomb whatever
hezbollah on the other hand is something else, much more competent since it is directly controlled by the quds force and armed to the teeth, we also saw in the yemen war that iranian drones en mass are more then capable, but hezbollah also has a tricky situation at home
>Hamas used to be trash. Keep in mind that Iran watched us from 2001 onward and copied our methods of building proxy armies. Believe me when I say that we were blown away when we left Afghanistan and we saw a bunch of well equipped, highly trained Taliban appear out of absolutely nowhere. We also know Spetznas is training proxies. The days of silly ragheads in diaper-hats and blankets is over.
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I understand that the hezb and idf might be tight lipped about their respective losses, but I don’t understand why the hezb would not divulge their victories if they have managed to off 200idf operators.
Would you be so kind as to answer some of my other questions if possible.
Appreciate it wether larp or real"
>Sorry, this thread exploded. That being said, Hezbollah doesn't care about victories because they're not as the media depicts, aka an army of proud terrorists. They're solely a defense force that formed to protect Lebanon and have never had any intention of invading Israel. They are also very vulnerable to Jewish infiltration, like any actor in the region, and they know that any bit of information needs to be kept secret unless ordered otherwise.
Hezbollah aren't a bunch of incompetent Sunni herdsmen with rags and busted AKs. They're a legitimate defense force run by college educated Shias and Christians.
"bullshit
actual gov anon here
heres whats happening
hamas is a hebrew word, it means iirc, something like violence, and is specified in the jew scriptures related to the world to come. hamas works for jews. hezbollah works for jews. all terrorist activity you see is engineered by the cia and israel. they "steer" certain individuals of particularly vulnerable mind to working towards the benefit of jews.
whats happening in a gaza is a full blown genocide. there is no resistance. merely women and children, very few men trying not to die. they hide underground to take refuge from bombs and scurry back to the surface before jews try to come in, which they arent even attempting to do. they have no interest in the land at present, they want to genocide the people there, and thats it. this is part of their zog governance, its known as gradualism, as they slowly move the needle trying to make it acceptable for them to do, but not you."
>You're not wrong, but Iran and Hezbollah have taken over the show and have turned Hamas (which is an umbrella term for anyone who shoots back at jews) into a formidable proxy of Hezbollah.
">we're considering standing by and watching IDF get slaughtered
if you real GovAnon - You're a traitor.
>Lol, the jew called me a traitor for not fighting for kikes. Also, your shitty Iron Dump is out of missiles.
"iran literally has nothing to do with anything
its just a scapegoat they use
what are they gonna do, release a statement saying no its not us thatll be in farsi or some language nobody speaks that nobody in the west will ever hear? whats the point. its all jews, its all engineered."
>Iran doesn't do anything because a) they don't want to and b) they don't have to. They've taken no direct action since 9/11, save for passive training of proxies to defend their interests, and the US has successfully demolished itself every step of the way.
">their intel is way too advanced
Bunch of kikes use tiktok which is an extension of the chinks and mudslime bloc. And TKD."
>That's another issue the US and Israel are having. Israeli soldiers bring smart phones into battle and post shit online while having a giant, moving target in their pocket.
arab.news
t.me
www.amnesty.org
US Senator Lindsey Graham said in an interview with CNN that the US government has no restrictions on civilian casualties in the Gaza Strip.
