Israel-Palestine War: Hamas Breaks Out of Gaza, Israel Responds With Genocide

Adobe said:
Israel’s parliamentary Constitution Committee has approved in second and third readings a bill that would make it illegal to read the publications of organizations designated as terrorist in the country, including Hamas and the Islamic State.

Those who systematically consume such materials containing “words of praise, sympathy or encouragement for acts of terrorism” could face a year in prison. However, the legislation makes an exception for those who read such publications incidentally, in good faith, or for a legitimate purpose.
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What a great idea!
Express it to the entire West!
Fantasize about information lockdowns—we haven't had those in a looooong time! :thup:
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RFK: The Jews have been in Israel for 3,700 years. The Palestinians are newbies from the 20th century. New arrivals.
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Joe said:
He's no history buff then.
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I was going to comment on the same thing. It's a common argument among Israel supporters: 'But the Jews have been on this land for thousands of years!' Sure, and so have been several other groups of people, except their myths are not in the Bible, so they don't figure in people's minds. There is much weight in terms of mythology about the kingdom of David and the temple of Solomon and so on. But that's because we see those things through the lens of that particular tribe due to religion, so they are huge in people's eyes. In reality, David and Solomon, their palace and temple, if they even existed, were most likely relevant only to the tribe members and the immediate area surrounding it.

As I remember it, by the time of the foundation of Israel, local Jews were living peacefully with their Palestinian Arab neighbours - and the Jews were the minorty. I can't remember the percentage but it was like 10% of the population or less before European immigration.
 
Was wondering when this was going to happen:

www.bbc.com

Hamas leader refuses to acknowledge killing of civilians in Israel

Deputy political leader Moussa Abu Marzouk says Hamas will release hostages only if Israel stops fighting.
www.bbc.com www.bbc.com

A senior Hamas leader has refused to acknowledge that his group killed civilians in Israel, claiming only conscripts were targeted.

Moussa Abu Marzouk told the BBC that "women, children and civilians were exempt" from Hamas's attacks.

His claims are in stark contrast to the wealth of video evidence of Hamas men shooting unarmed adults and children.
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Makes ya wonder where those video images came from, to whom they were sent and who uploaded them.
 
Paul Craig Roberts:

Haaretz Declares Netanyahu to be an Existential Threat to Israels Survival

Haaretz Declares Netanyahu to be “an Existential Threat to Israel’s Survival”

Netanyahu is an existential threat to Israel's survival | Opinion

Haaretz on Netanyahu:

“Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, who is meant to be leading the country, is a haunted politician facing the end of his career, with the present troubles compounding the serious criminal entanglement into which he maneuvered himself with his own hands. Netanyahu does not enjoy the public’s confidence, and most of his efforts are invested in his personal survival.”

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2023-11-03/ty-article/.premium/nasrallahs-long-awaited-speech-could-dictate-the-course-of-the-war-and-lebanons-future/0000018b-9185-db71-a7df-fdcd1cda0000?utm_source=mailchimp&utm_medium=Content&utm_campaign=daily-brief&utm_content=48df5d8f08

Keep in mind that this is the opinion of an important Israeli newspaper of the man who holds the strings on Israel’s puppets in Washington.
 
Jacques said:
https://twitter.com/x/status/1721644159419797635
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Yeah, I saw that, too. I don't think Hezbollah attacked any US ships. Based on their leader's recent video release, that would seem to go against their military doctrine.

Keith Woods also wrote 'google USS Liberty incident' below the announcement. I think his point was that the US forces may sink one of their own ships (maybe using some of their Islamic proxies). They'd do this to justify a spread of the conflict - as was the case with the Liberty, hence his mention of the incident.

It's a pretty cryptic way to make a simple point if you ask me!
 
The US is ready to start a nuclear war on Iran
The US military announces an Ohio-class nuclear-powered submarine has arrived in the Middle East. Most likely with nuclear missiles.
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The director of the CIA is visiting Tel Aviv. It is clear that the US is threatening Iran even with nuclear weapons. Something that Russia was warned not to do for 5 months and that it was terrorism. Russia didn't care, but it had no need to use nukes.
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Iran already has nuclear bombs, but the question is whether it has long-range missiles that can reach the surface of the United States. If they don't have it, maybe they can borrow it from Russia, or they have it and will show it now. However, the possibility of nuclear war is now more real than in the situation in Ukraine.
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The USA does not care about the Ukrainians, because they are a Slavic people and the goal was to use their "stupidity", but they do care about Israel and are ready to make a nuclear catastrophe in the world.
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https://twitter.com/x/status/1721502807981777044
 
Joe said:
Makes ya wonder where those video images came from, to whom they were sent and who uploaded them.
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I did notice that when it all started to unravel, the amount of footage and I was wondering why would hamas bother to prepare an operation and include, as part of this operation, the necessity that it be broadcasted online. It always felt like an intelligence operation meant to showcase the "indiscriminate killing" perpetrated, and who would want to do that as part of their operation?

Like Hamas rules Gaza, and they barely have electricity and medicine, but they sure invested hundreds of thousands in GoPro cameras and great internet connections? It always smelled fishy to me.
 
I also wanted to highlight the interview that the queen of Jordan just had with CNN:

Queen of Jordan: "Anti-Semitism becomes a weapon to silence any criticism of Israel"

"Israel is a state and it is solely responsible for its own crimes," said Rania al-Abdullah, who recalled that the Hebrew country does not represent all the Jewish people of the world.

Jordan's Queen Rania al-Abdullah believes that being pro-Palestine is not the same as being anti-Semitic or a supporter of the Islamic Resistance Movement (Hamas), she told CNN on Sunday.

"Let me be very clear. Being pro-Palestinian is not being anti-Semitic, being pro-Palestinian does not mean being pro-Hamas or pro-terrorism," said the monarch, the daughter of Palestinians born in Kuwait."

What we have seen in recent years is that the accusation of anti-Semitism has become a weapon to silence any criticism of Israel," he added. In that regard, he indicated that he "absolutely and sincerely" condemns both Anisemitism and Islamophobia, and stressed that the Hebrew country does not represent the entire Jewish people of the world. "Israel is a state and is solely responsible for its own crimes," she said.

Call for a ceasefire

She also called for a ceasefire, saying that those who oppose this measure, arguing that it would help Hamas, "support and justify the death of thousands of civilians," which he calls "morally reprehensible."

"When 1.1 million people are asked to leave their homes or risk death, that's not protection of civilians, it's forced displacement," she continued, noting that Tel Aviv's claim that they are trying to protect civilians is an "insult to their own intelligence" and an attempt to "legitimize their actions" in the Palestinian enclave.

Asked about the skepticism expressed by U.S. President Joe Biden about the death toll provided by Gaza's Ministry of Health, Al Abdullah said that "by trying to minimize the horrific consequences of their actions, to further dehumanize Palestinians and desensitize people to their suffering [...] they're trying to exonerate themselves and the viewer."
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It's not that difficult of a reasoning to arrive at.
 
Windmill knight said:
You guys probably remember Ahed Tamimi, the Palestinian girl who achieved some fame and became a symbol of resistance for confronting the Israeli army even when she was a little girl. Well, she and her father have been arrested.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1721363986145534321
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Yes, I do remember her however I'd been trying to remember her name, thanks for that. From what I recall, it won't be the first time she has been arrested.

A stand for Palestine in the parliament leads to a bunch of MP's who support Palestine walking out.


Oh, and then two disgraced former Prime Ministers talk at their visit to Gaza.


The national horse race, the Melbourne Cup is being held in Australia today and has been invaded by protestors calling for a cease-fire in Gaza.

https://www.news.com.au/sport/flare...ne-cup/video/b17f49922639f3e7d2532d4fb26f49d1
Pro-Palestine activists have clashed with cops outside Flemington Racecourse after staging a protest near an entrance to the Melbourne Cup.
Dramatic vision from the scene showed at least one vehicle and dozens of activists blocking a road while police and other crews attempted to tow a vehicle.

The demonstration began at 11am and “approximately 100 pro-Palestine protesters” attended, according to Victoria Police.

Activists could be heard chanting “free Palestine” and “ceasefire now”.

Dozens of pro-Palestine protesters have descended on the 2023 Melbourne Cup. Picture: X/ @MattH093

Dozens of pro-Palestine protesters have descended on the 2023 Melbourne Cup. Picture: X/ @MattH093
Police carried one away. Picture: X/ @MattH093

Police carried one away. Picture: X/ @MattH093
There were tense scenes. Picture: X/ @MattH093

There were tense scenes. Picture: X/ @MattH093
Matt Hrkac took to X to share footage of the heated scenes.

“Cops trying desperately to clear the road, people continue to walk on,” he wrote.

The road was “completely blocked” before protesters were “dragged aggressively,” threatened with OC spray, and even arrested during the demonstration, according to Mr Hrkac.

Victoria Police told news.com.au a female protester arrived in a white van and climbed onto the roof where she stayed for some time.

They confirmed she and two others were arrested, but not before they were sprayed.

Pro-Palestine protesters are surrounded by police at the perimeter of the Flemington Racecourse on Melbourne Cup Day. Picture: AAP Image/Con Chronis

Pro-Palestine protesters are surrounded by police at the perimeter of the Flemington Racecourse on Melbourne Cup Day. Picture: AAP Image/Con Chronis
According to reports from the scene, some protesters were ‘aggressively dragged’. Picture: AAP Image/Con Chronis

According to reports from the scene, some protesters were ‘aggressively dragged’. Picture: AAP Image/Con Chronis
Police confirmed some protesters were sprayed and arrested. Picture: AAP Image/Con Chronis

Police confirmed some protesters were sprayed and arrested. Picture: AAP Image/Con Chronis
“In the course of managing the non-compliant protesters, police sprayed two of them before they were successfully arrested,” they said.

“The female who was on top of the white van has also since been arrested.

“Police have arranged for the van to be towed away.”

Victoria Police claimed the incident caused traffic issues at an important intersection on Melbourne Cup Day.

“The incident is ongoing and police are still dealing with about 80 protesters,” they said.

Gaza protest erupted at Flemington Racecourse prior to the Melbourne Cup. Picture: Facebook/ Whistleblowers, Activists and Communities Alliance

Gaza protest erupted at Flemington Racecourse prior to the Melbourne Cup. Picture: Facebook/ Whistleblowers, Activists and Communities Alliance
Gaza protest erupts at Melbourne Cup. Picture: X/ @MattH093

Gaza protest erupts at Melbourne Cup. Picture: X/ @MattH093
It’s understood the gathering dispersed shortly after 1pm.

Last year saw dramatic displays of activism in the hours leading into the Melbourne Cup.

An anti-gambling environmentalist caused a major scare when, at the crack of dawn, he unloaded “1000 litres of oily sludge” onto the Flemington track in protest.

Later that morning, a building site near Flemington was the first target, with a “SOS: Evacuate Manus Now” being dangled from a crane.

And another caused commuter chaos for racegoers 90 minutes before the race that stops the nation, blocking a train track at Ascot Vale with a car emblazoned with what appeared to be pro-refugee slogans.
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