Thank you. I think another member some time ago gave the link but... I forgot. Now the link is on my favorites.You can use this link to bypass the orwellian censorship: RT - Breaking News, Russia News, World News and Video
Thank you. I think another member some time ago gave the link but... I forgot. Now the link is on my favorites.You can use this link to bypass the orwellian censorship: RT - Breaking News, Russia News, World News and Video
People who were afraid to get on the bus because there was a chance that it will explode. And granted, the fears were justified.
But who was responsible? Who was responsible for the pervasive perception of the Israelis that they are the nation in constant war and against the world? Who was responsible for the Israelis being in a constant state of uncertainty and anxiety, and yet accepting it and saying that this is who we are. We are the victims and we have to be strong and make sure that it won't happen again?
I don't think one can remain neutral in such cases, especially if one is affected directly or indirectly, do you ?To see how crazy and absurd neutrality can get in highly pathological situations - imagine being neutral in nazi Germany. What does this mean in practice? It means you never actually see the end road of the Nazis, you don't see the "horror" of the situation and where it's leading to. One might argue against this but my counter argument would be, how can you claim to see the end road and remain neutral? If you see it, either you oppose it or you accept it...
Going back to nazi Germany, at the end, when you hear about all the Jews being exterminated in concentration camps you'll probably throw your hands up and probably look for reasons - surely not all Jews, I hear it's just the criminals... or perhaps, they've just been "temporarily" relocated... anything to avoid facing the situation.
In the end, in such a situation, it becomes obvious to those around you what your so-called neutrality actually means.
Don't shoot the messenger @BHelmet
I don't think one can remain neutral in such cases, especially if one is affected directly or indirectly, do you ?
But also, the fact that we cannot actually stop the murder and bloodshed sort of takes the bite out of taking a stand against it. A la- I can go to rallies against the Gaza masacre, but it does nothing to stop it, or other such aggressions.
I don't know. I think we can make small differences by resisting the propaganda from infesting us as individuals. By doing so, we can perhaps hold a certain frequency and allow it to take hold in the world.So are we just on Earth to be witnesses to endless madness ?
I take everything in the "news" to either be a lie, manipulation, or fear mongering. I do at times wonder what the exact nature of manipulation in a given case is.I don't know. I think we can make small differences by resisting the propaganda from infesting us as individuals. By doing so, we can perhaps hold a certain frequency and allow it to take hold in the world
It seems to me that thousands of people's efforts to oppose the tyrrany and genocide here has done, and is doing, absolutely nothing. On a similar note, hundreds of thousands of us rallied weekly for months against bibi- What has this done ? Other than triggerring the events of the past months ?Being a witness implies passivity and I don't think the situation we are in actually allows us to be passive given we are actual participants in the play going on around us due to our shared humanity.
Yeah, all agreed. Worth remembering though that we each have something unique to us that means we are in 3D, in the environment we live in, with the situation we were born into or find ourselves in.I take everything in the "news" to either be a lie, manipulation, or fear mongering. I do at times wonder what the exact nature of manipulation in a given case is.
I think this is true for most "news" around the world about anything important, and doubly for the news here.
It seems to me that thousands of people's efforts to oppose the tyrrany and genocide here has done, and is doing, absolutely nothing. On a similar note, hundreds of thousands of us rallied weekly for months against bibi- What has this done ? Other than triggerring the events of the past months ?
And so, if we cannot affect change that matters (prefferably also long lasting) then what is left but remaining witnesses ?
I can see how my posts might appear vague to some people. But I know what I stand for and I know that is the same as what the FOTCM does as well.
I cannot and will not defend a position that I never have taken.
Maybe that's because I take the obvious for granted- I don't believe anyone on the forum could be FOR genocide.
And I don't believe anyone here falls for the usual, corrupt lies either. Why should anyone have to state that they are against genocide ? Is it not obvious that we all here are ?
Fortunately and unfortunately, we know what the world is like currently. It's just beyond depressing.
I take everything in the "news" to either be a lie, manipulation, or fear mongering. I do at times wonder what the exact nature of manipulation in a given case is.
I think this is true for most "news" around the world about anything important, and doubly for the news here.
It seems to me that thousands of people's efforts to oppose the tyrrany and genocide here has done, and is doing, absolutely nothing. On a similar note, hundreds of thousands of us rallied weekly for months against bibi- What has this done ?
Maybe that's because I take the obvious for granted- I don't believe anyone on the forum could be FOR genocide.
And I don't believe anyone here falls for the usual, corrupt lies either. Why should anyone have to state that they are against genocide ? Is it not obvious that we all here are ?
I was wondering if you are quoting someone comments? Who, by the way? It is important because of the context.Not true, good propaganda is wrapped around the truth. It is hard work but every “truth seeking” individual is responsible for deciphering the truth from lies.
Right and after protesting they go back to their comfortable lives giving energy back to the very systems that requires human sacrifice.
Hum, that’s interesting way of putting it. kind of reminds me of the wife that tells her husband, “you don’t say I love you to me.” To which the husband replies, “well I work, I put food on the table, a roof over your head, why do I need to tell you? I show you every day by my actions”.
Yes, I can see the husband’s point of view, but you know what, sometimes it is necessary to tell your wife you love her. As we are learning here on the forum, sometimes we can choose to do certain actions as an external consideration to others.
FWIW
Get out of here with this nonsense. I know definitively that the Israeli propanganda you spread is false: "the soldiers who shot the shirtless three... Hamas has created similar scenarios to try and get closer to Israeli sodiers before attacking."
I wasn't there and I know the Israeli propanganda you spread is false.
The fact that you cannot differentiate between big obvious lies shows that you cannot relying on your own thinking when it comes to Palestine, Hamas, and Israel. So you face a choice of acknowledging that you cannot relying on your own thinking and accept what other forum members are saying, or you can continue relying on your own thinking.
Sorry my bad. I was quoting Ðekel.I was wondering if you are quoting someone comments? Who, by the way? It is important because of the context.