Israel-Palestine War: Hamas Breaks Out of Gaza, Israel Responds With Genocide

We still don't know precisely how many people were killed in the strike. I've seen the number 500 repeated, as well as numbers up to 800. Larry says the video evidence suggests it could have been much less. I guess his point is that there's no reason to assume that the media reporting 500 dead in the hospital bombing is accurate. If all media is prone to inflate numbers, this also applies to media coverage of this strike.

But then - does the number of bodies really matter? Bombing a hospital is still a war crime.
Agreed. I've seen pro-Israelis use the same argument regarding the 40 dead babies. "What does the number or manner of their death matter, Hamas still killed babies." Personally, I try to be just interested in the truth, if that's ever possible. So, numbers are somewhat important from that perspective, even if hard to verify. Almost everyone lies about casualties, unfortunately.
An aside, I've found "4" seems to be a "warning/"forewarning" indicator. Similar to how a lot of people will flag article that have the number 33 being tied to freemasons. Scale, itself, seem to be irrelevant but matched what ever story that's getting forwarded (40 babies is more reasonable than 400 babies). Mind you, this is not 4 as in a esoteric symbolic kind of meaning but two covert cells taking to one another over mass media...

This is not to say that is what the story actually is but more of something to keep in mind on WHY stories might not line up well. The message may not have been for us.
 
This tweet does a pretty good job for making the case of an air burst bomb. Not sure about the thermobaric part. Seems like there would be more extensive damage had it been the case:

This reminds me that I sometimes read stories about how Zionists/Mossad or whomever, like to test weapons and tactics of war/control on people in Palestine from time to time in service of the military industrial complex. So it came to mind, that someone may have decided to see what an "air burst bomb" or similar ordinance can do in an urban location and that is how we got this explosion, maybe? Just a thought.
 
An aside, I've found "4" seems to be a "warning/"forewarning" indicator. Similar to how a lot of people will flag article that have the number 33 being tied to freemasons. Scale, itself, seem to be irrelevant but matched what ever story that's getting forwarded (40 babies is more reasonable than 400 babies). Mind you, this is not 4 as in a esoteric symbolic kind of meaning but two covert cells taking to one another over mass media...

This is not to say that is what the story actually is but more of something to keep in mind on WHY stories might not line up well. The message may not have been for us.
Something about this rings true to me

Because why isn't it 39 ? or 42 ?

I think you definitely on to something about some of these messages meant to have various meanings for various layers of "society"

Yet we need also to be vigilant and not allow this perhaps true understanding lead us into the realm of "pattern recognition run amok"
 
Good day to all,

I'm debating if I should post this here or in the Orwellian world section (or somewhere else I have not noticed for this topic, move it or link it if needed).
On the 17 Oct, NaturalNews newsletter's podcast headline from Mike Adams.

I did not listen to the podcast for lack of time, I just thought the headline was food for thought...
I have not done much research on this subject yet, but from the little I've read, his text resonated with me this morning, and what came to mind was what happened during WW2, when they moved the Jews (Palestinians) into ghettos (15 min cities). And the C's answer in one session: WW2 was just a practice run.

He often has very good insight, although he often has a wrong timeline or is too dramatic (for the purpose of entertaining his audience maybe).

The Gaza open air prison is a pilot program for globalist extermination of us all
Mike Adams
Over many years, Israel has perfected the human enslavement and extermination model that will power "15-minute cities" and human extermination camps that will be pushed by depopulation globalists as the next phase of human extermination gets under way.
The Gaza Strip is a massive experiment in human enslavement and behavioral engineering involving 2.3 million civilians who have now been dubbed "animals" and are being systematically displaced and / or exterminated. Everything learned from this pilot program will next be deployed against all of us. (edited)
Get the (shocking) full details in today's broadcast here :
Brighteon Broadcast News, Oct 17, 2023 - The Gaza open air prison is a PILOT PROGRAM for globalist ENSLAVEMENT and EXTERMINATION of us all


For the rest, the first thing that came to mind regarding this event was :
- Russia/Ukraine war lost people's interest, not enough negative support or incentive anymore, and did not escalate to their taste.
- Israel/Palestin conflict stirs much more negativity, terrorization (as per C's sept 2023 session), and psychological warfare (the public gets emotional and riots, same way as Floyd event)
- They prepared for that event for at least 20-30 years: all the wars in the Middle East that created migrants, it was a way to move/transfer paperless "terror agents" (male 20-40 years old) all over the world, and they just got activated.

As a side note regarding this whole scheme
Remember Truckers's protest in Canada? Trudeau invoked Martial Law in order to be able to unlock extreme Dictatorship powers, such as freezing bank accounts. Well, just a few days ago, Canada's motion is now into LAW: they can freeze anyone's bank account, anytime, for any reason, without a court order.
That is also linked with the new bill passed into law regarding internet regulation (censorship), and hate speech (which is not defined, and the agency CRTC has 100% powers granted to "define" what is hate speech).

Mod's note: The Brighteon's link has been replaced as asked.
 
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Worldwide Caution

Looks like things are get VERY interesting..

Probably something to do with this


Yoav Gallant urged the forces to "get organised, be ready", according to the AP news agency.

“Whoever sees Gaza from afar now, will see it from the inside,” he said. “I promise you.”

The meetings with Biden (plus vassals like Scholz ,Sunak, etc.) are concluded. Allegiance has been pledged.
 
They call this War!!!! Unfortunately the Palestinians do not have an army nor any form of defence.
Our Western leaders have shown exactly who and what they are supporting this. They sicken me and it's very difficult to continue to watch this. Sooner rather than later were going to pay a heavy price for our actions.
God help us, all those innocents been slaughtered.
 
- I think there are several factors for why that might be happening, the most prominent being, that Russia
deployed warships MiG-31 fighter jets with Kinzhal‘s missiles as safeguard. I think this probably allows the muslim world a free hand to deal with Israel with little risk of the empire intervening. Russia is making sure that whatever they themselves do will accord to international law, thereby formally not risking a direct confrontation between the US and Russia. Russia basically levels the playing field by forcing Israel to fight conventionally and on its own should muslim states decide to go at war against them. No big brother anymore to fight for them and no nuclear option to use either!

Russia's stance sure has Likud party member Amir Weitmann riled up, feeling threatened, and speaking threateningly in reaction. Weitmann is also quite probably reflecting what many in his party are feeling right now: a seething hatred of Russia for effectively blocking Netanyahu's gang from moving forward with its genocidal agenda with greater ease.

Wouldn't be surprised if our favorite intelligence agency and/or affiliated groups sends a god-awful "message" to Russia in the coming days and weeks.

 
Another, IMO, disappointing Tucker Carlson (#31.)
With Vivek Ramaswamy

A couple of points from the interview: (paraphrased, but not much)

First of all, NOT ONE WORD of Palestine, Gaza, Palestinians…nothing. Completely avoided words and subjects.

Ramaswamy: The top 100 Hamas leaders should have their heads cut off and posted on stakes, at the boarder of Israel for all to see. Israel is 100% morally justified in doing this.

To the above statement Tucker said: “That seems like a pretty obvious solution.”

Maximum pressure should be put on Iran to not have nuclear ability, and we should “drive” Saudi Arabia back to the negotiation table with Israel.

While these things are being done, the US should run interference for Israel and keep the world at bay.

Tucker makes a point of his own: The capital just got invaded by Hamas Lunatics, and people are taking sides, but as for me, I’m for America. (Hamas Lunatics at the capital yesterday? Not Jews for peace in Gaza?)

The points that I have posted above start at minute 10: and are done at minute :22 (12 minutes)

 
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Russia's stance sure has Likud party member Amir Weitmann riled up, feeling threatened, and speaking threateningly in reaction. Weitmann is also quite probably reflecting what many in his party are feeling right now: a seething hatred of Russia for effectively blocking Netanyahu's gang from moving forward with its genocidal agenda with greater ease.

Wouldn't be surprised if our favorite intelligence agency and/or affiliated groups sends a god-awful "message" to Russia in the coming days and weeks.

What a pscho ! Guy sounds like he's possessed by demons.
 
Looks like things are get VERY interesting..

The Israeli army has received the green light to enter the Gaza Strip

The Israeli army has received the green light to enter the Gaza Strip, Israeli Minister of Economy and Industry Nir Barkat said.
Barkat, who is a member of the National Security Council of the country, said that the Israeli government made a decision and gave the army the green light. The military will do it when they are ready, reports TASS.

Earlier, Israeli Defense Minister Yoav Galant said that the Israeli military, located on the border with the Gaza Strip, will soon be on its territory.
Армия Израиля получила зеленый свет на вход в сектор Газа

Israel has begun demobilizing reservists - the military operation has been postponed for weeks
13 days after the declaration of war and the mobilization of reservists, the Israeli army begins to send them home. The start of the ground operation in Gaza has already been postponed several times for a number of reasons. Wallanews war correspondent Amir Bukhbut reports that the main reason is external pressure, in particular, the visits of US President Joe Biden and British Prime Minister Rishi Sunak.

The journalist claims that Israel needs international support to carry out a large-scale ground operation. The international community calls for the resolution of humanitarian issues in Gaza before the outbreak of hostilities.

In addition, the army faced losses: hundreds of conscripts died in the first days of the war, thousands were wounded. Time is needed for additional training of military personnel.

Reservists sent home expressed their dissatisfaction. They must remain on a certain degree of combat readiness and, if necessary, report to military bases in a short time. Many complain about the uncertainty of their status, which prevents them from returning to a peaceful life.

Government officials say the war could drag on for months or even years. Such a prospect can negatively affect the economy and social condition of the country. However, a prolonged conflict will be in the hands of the current government, since in conditions of war the opposition is unlikely to demand his resignation.
Израиль начал демобилизацию резервистов - военная операция отложена на недели
 
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