Israel-Palestine War: Hamas Breaks Out of Gaza, Israel Responds With Genocide

Nice to see more in the mainstream countering the narrative, which at least from my perspective does not seem to be taking hold of as many people as I thought it might).

As much as they are likely on to something here, I suspect that this is more another example of the left vs right narrative conflict. Channel 4 News is notoriously leftist/liberal as far as UK mainstream media goes (far more so than say, the BBC) and will almost always take the side of the perceived 'oppressed' (which of course in this case is the actual oppressed).

Yes, that kind of fits with my prediction that if they really are trying to switch the narrative from Wokeness to "Muslim terrerists", this won't go 100% smoothly. The woke have been conditioned to see everything through the group-oppression lense, and while many will no doubt switch without blinking, NPC-style, some might actually cling to it and be right in this case. However, these (few!) examples of the MSM getting things right will then be seen by the right-wingers as proof that Israel good. But what can you do...

My overall sense is that whatever is going on, many in the power structure are taken by surprise by all that, and that there are probably different factions and agendas at play here. The fact that Israeli society is deeply divided between Western-style liberals and religious/settler fanatics plays a role too, as does the changed geopolitical landscape. It's all a big mess.
 
After Blinken and Biden's Middle East tour which further proved that the US is losing respect in this region, the humiliation of US/NATO/EU "bringers of democracy and freedom" is continuing elsewhere: NATO envoys hold ‘emergency meeting’ over Putin-Orban talks – media

Orban’s chief of staff, Gergely Gulyas, told ATV channel on Wednesday that the US ambassador is not competent to determine Hungarian foreign policy because that is the job of the Hungarian government.

:lol:
 
Since so many ambiguities, absurdities and contradictions are been spitted through msm concerning THE "solution" that will put a decisive stop to the threats Israel is purportedly now facing, I couldn't resist putting a link showing the Egyptian comedian, writer, producer, surgeon, physician, media critic, and television host named Bassem Youssef making ironic comments on Israel's invencible war games with Palestinians, broadcasted at Piers Morgan Uncensored tv show.

I find it quite comic -within the perspective of the uncredible human sufferings raging there- the way Youssef is making himself understood between lines first only to later end up exposing the crude reality, but without losing the sense of sarcastic humor since he obviously knows how Israel's elite is intouchable:

 
I'm bothered a lot by JBPs stance like others here, also read what he had to say on the conflict too.

It seems he's got a good heart and has done a lot of good work in the past though which I won't forget, and looks to have been duped for whatever reason and/or is lying to himself. Hope one day he's able to get past this..

But what he is saying is really very frustrating.
Especially about the blame, it seems to be the default setting of many to blame Iran.

Although my knowledge isn't great either but over the years a picture does seem to emerge.
The regime there wasn't good when it was taken over by Islamic hardliners in the 1970's after (from what I know), the Shah of Iran was removed with help from the American government and then takenover by extreme Islamists which destabilised the country forcing many many people to leave for fear of persecution, splitting whole families apart, ruining lives.
I'm not too sure what the current government is like though.

American government got rid of the more forward thinking Shah with help via alphabet agents.
This allowed the extremists/dictatorship to take power, so the situation in Iran was result of American gov meddling.

But who is likely really behind the evil inside the American gov, Israeli group who have been manipulating the ME and world?

The Rockefellas, Rothschilds.. Ruthlessly manipulating everything from behind the scenes.

These intellectuals are not blaming them, when the R's were behind the whole banking system responsible for financing wars on all sides, and more, since way back when to maximise their profits and cause chaos, and have destroyed the lives, caused suffering to countless good people.

I don't know that much so please correct me if I'm wrong, but did some research many years ago and it's pretty apparent how these 2 "families" they have managed to infiltrate so many layers of society worldwide by buying people with the vast amounts of wealth they have somehow always had.

Rockefellas, Rothschilds. Seems to be big problem.
(Apologies if I'm going off topic but am weary of people in the media pointing the finger and putting blame, people fighting each other they are the ones to be named and shamed. .imo)
 
I'm bothered a lot by JBPs stance like others here, also read what he had to say on the conflict too.

It seems he's got a good heart and has done a lot of good work in the past though which I won't forget, and looks to have been duped for whatever reason and/or is lying to himself. Hope one day he's able to get past this..

But what he is saying is really very frustrating.
Especially about the blame, it seems to be the default setting of many to blame Iran.

Although my knowledge isn't great either but over the years a picture does seem to emerge.
The regime there wasn't good when it was taken over by Islamic hardliners in the 1970's after (from what I know), the Shah of Iran was removed with help from the American government and then takenover by extreme Islamists which destabilised the country forcing many many people to leave for fear of persecution, splitting whole families apart, ruining lives.
I'm not too sure what the current government is like though.

American government got rid of the more forward thinking Shah with help via alphabet agents.
This allowed the extremists/dictatorship to take power, so the situation in Iran was result of American gov meddling.

But who is likely really behind the evil inside the American gov, Israeli group who have been manipulating the ME and world?

The Rockefellas, Rothschilds.. Ruthlessly manipulating everything from behind the scenes.

These intellectuals are not blaming them, when the R's were behind the whole banking system responsible for financing wars on all sides, and more, since way back when to maximise their profits and cause chaos, and have destroyed the lives, caused suffering to countless good people.

I don't know that much so please correct me if I'm wrong, but did some research many years ago and it's pretty apparent how these 2 "families" they have managed to infiltrate so many layers of society worldwide by buying people with the vast amounts of wealth they have somehow always had.

Rockefellas, Rothschilds. Seems to be big problem.
(Apologies if I'm going off topic but am weary of people in the media pointing the finger and putting blame, people fighting each other they are the ones to be named and shamed. .imo)
According to many conspiracy theorists, it isn't just the Rockefellers and Rothschilds, since there are meant to be 13 bloodline families of the Illuminati who sit on top of the NWO cabal. Here is one purported list of these bloodline families (I am not convinced about the Kennedys though and JFK was clearly a maverick, which is why he was killed): The 13 Main Families of the Illuminati

As for the Rockefellers and their plans for a New World Order, here it is direct from the horse's mouth:

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Bad news for Ukraine - USA in shocking turn around​


U.S. Reroutes Artillery from Ukraine to Israel Amidst Middle East Tensions

In an unexpected move, the Pentagon is diverting a sizable cache of 155mm artillery shells, originally meant for Ukraine, to Israel.

This comes as Israel intensifies its preparations for potential confrontations in the Gaza Strip and along the Israeli-Lebanese frontier.

Inside sources have revealed to Axios that these artillery shells, part of a bilateral agreement, have been stored in Israel but were being shifted to Ukraine earlier this year.

Adding another layer, Israel is rumoured to be requesting $10 billion in emergency military aid from the U.S., signifying a heightened regional alertness.

U.S. officials, however, remain confident, stating that their country can adequately back both Ukraine and Israel without compromising global defence capabilities. This decision's ramifications on international dynamics remain to be seen.
 
I find it quite comic -within the perspective of the uncredible human sufferings raging there- the way Youssef is making himself understood between lines first only to later end up exposing the crude reality, but without losing the sense of sarcastic humor since he obviously knows how Israel's elite is intouchable:

Brilliant, funny, and profoundly sad. I mean, it's so insane that he has to revert to excuisite sarcasm just to make the most blatantly obvious of points. And even that isn't enough to get through to those programmed zombies.
And that Daily Wire guy at the end :barf:
 
According to many conspiracy theorists, it isn't just the Rockefellers and Rothschilds, since there are meant to be 13 bloodline families of the Illuminati who sit on top of the NWO cabal. Here is one purported list of these bloodline families (I am not convinced about the Kennedys though and JFK was clearly a maverick, which is why he was killed): The 13 Main Families of the Illuminati

As for the Rockefellers and their plans for a New World Order, here it is direct from the horse's mouth:

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Hi just having a read interesting. Agreed about the Kennedys, that seems to be the opposite of what is true from what I know, after reading the work here. Anyway thanks for that MJF.
 
I'm bothered a lot by JBPs stance like others here, also read what he had to say on the conflict too.

It seems he's got a good heart and has done a lot of good work in the past though which I won't forget, and looks to have been duped for whatever reason and/or is lying to himself. Hope one day he's able to get past this..

But what he is saying is really very frustrating.
Especially about the blame, it seems to be the default setting of many to blame Iran.

Although my knowledge isn't great either but over the years a picture does seem to emerge.
The regime there wasn't good when it was taken over by Islamic hardliners in the 1970's after (from what I know), the Shah of Iran was removed with help from the American government and then takenover by extreme Islamists which destabilised the country forcing many many people to leave for fear of persecution, splitting whole families apart, ruining lives.
I'm not too sure what the current government is like though.

American government got rid of the more forward thinking Shah with help via alphabet agents.
This allowed the extremists/dictatorship to take power, so the situation in Iran was result of American gov meddling.

The Shah wasn't taken out by alphabet agencies, he was installed by them. He came to power after the CIA and MI6 toppled the government of the popular nationalist prime minister, Mohammad Mossadegh who nationalized Iran's oil industry:


Known as Operation Ajax, the CIA plot was ultimately about oil. Western firms had for decades controlled the region’s oil wealth, whether Arabian-American Oil Company in Saudi Arabia, or the Anglo-Iranian Oil Company in Iran. When the U.S. firm in Saudi Arabia bowed to pressure in late 1950 and agreed to share oil revenues evenly with Riyadh, the British concession in Iran came under intense pressure to follow suit. But London adamantly refused.

So in early 1951, amid great popular acclaim, Mossadegh nationalized Iran’s oil industry. A fuming United Kingdom began conspiring with U.S. intelligence services to overthrow Mossadegh and restore the monarchy under the shah. (Though some in the U.S. State Department, the newly released cables show, blamed British intransigence for the tensions and sought to work with Mossadegh.)

The coup attempt began on August 15 but was swiftly thwarted. Mossadegh made dozens of arrests. Gen. Fazlollah Zahedi, a top conspirator, went into hiding, and the shah fled the country.

The CIA, believing the coup to have failed, called it off.

“Operation has been tried and failed and we should not participate in any operation against Mossadegh which could be traced back to US,” CIA headquarters wrote to its station chief in Iran in a newly declassified cable sent on Aug. 18, 1953. “Operations against Mossadegh should be discontinued.”

That is the cable which Kermit Roosevelt, top CIA officer in Iran, purportedly and famously ignored, according to Malcolm Byrne, who directs the U.S.-Iran Relations Project at the National Security Archive at George Washington University.

At least “one guy was in the room with Kermit Roosevelt when he got this cable,” Byrne told Foreign Policy. “[Roosevelt] said no — we’re not done here.” It was already known that Roosevelt had not carried out an order from Langley to cease and desist. But the cable itself and its contents were not previously published.

The consequences of his decision were momentous. The next day, on August 19, 1953, with the aid of “rented” crowds widely believed to have been arranged with CIA assistance, the coup succeeded. Iran’s nationalist hero was jailed, the monarchy restored under the Western-friendly shah, and Anglo-Iranian oil — renamed British Petroleum — tried to get its fields back. (But didn’t really: Despite the coup, nationalist pushback against a return to foreign control of oil was too much, leaving BP and other majors to share Iran’s oil wealth with Tehran.)

Operation Ajax has long been a bogeyman for conservatives in Iran — but also for liberals. The coup fanned the flames of anti-Western sentiment, which reached a crescendo in 1979 with the U.S. hostage crisis, the final overthrow of the shah, and the creation of the Islamic Republic to counter the “Great Satan.”

The coup alienated liberals in Iran as well. Mossadegh is widely considered to be the closest thing Iran has ever had to a democratic leader. He openly championed democratic values and hoped to establish a democracy in Iran. The elected parliament selected him as prime minister, a position he used to reduce the power of the shah, thus bringing Iran closer in line with the political traditions that had developed in Europe. But any further democratic development was stymied on Aug. 19.
 
I have nothing to back up what I write.
It seems to me that the whole issue with Israel and Palestine is being played out to tie up another part of Russia's power.
On the psychopathic principle of "the end justifies the means".
Russia (like everyone) has limited conventional means of defense. If they prove insufficient then the nuclear option comes in. The raising of Mig-31s with kindles can attest to this. Tying Russia down in several places also eliminates possible Chinese assistance.
And China is the biggest threat, because a few more years and they will swallow the U.S. for breakfast in relative peace and especially militarily.
Luckily there is [in theory] a lot going on in between "conventional" and "nuclear"
and a lot of it is said to be much more subtle than both
 
The Shah wasn't taken out by alphabet agencies, he was installed by them. He came to power after the CIA and MI6 toppled the government of the popular nationalist prime minister, Mohammad Mossadegh who nationalized Iran's oil industry:

Known as Operation Ajax, the CIA plot was ultimately about oil. Western firms had for decades controlled the region’s oil wealth, whether Arabian-American Oil Company in Saudi Arabia, or the Anglo-Iranian Oil Company in Iran. When the U.S. firm in Saudi Arabia bowed to pressure in late 1950 and agreed to share oil revenues evenly with Riyadh, the British concession in Iran came under intense pressure to follow suit. But London adamantly refused.

And I wonder who was controlling MI6 and the Anglo-Iranian Oil Company in Iran? Step forward the Rothschilds again.
 
The Shah wasn't taken out by alphabet agencies, he was installed by them. He came to power after the CIA and MI6 toppled the government of the popular nationalist prime minister, Mohammad Mossadegh who nationalized Iran's oil industry:
Gosh sounds complicated. From what I heard about it from family in Iran, (a long time ago), who left after the revolution, the Shah didn't want to be a puppet of the western powers anymore, which led to them removing him osit. The Shah was a popular leader at the time.. But I'm def no political expert lol not sure of any details and looks like there's much more to it than what I know ..
Either way the west have been meddling for a long time from what I can see, with these famous families in the background pulling strings, which was the main thing I'm trying to highlight i guess.
 
I originally posted this extract in another thread (see: Krzysztof Jackowski - Polish Clairvoyant). However, I thought I would also post it here for the purposes of showing an ulterior geopolitical reason for the current Israeli Government's drive to push the Palestinians out of Gaza.

I set out below a link to a recent article by Dr Joseph Farrell on the strategic importance of this discovery of gas deposits and its possible implications: GAZA HAS GAS

In turn, Farrell's article refers to an earlier article written in January 2009 by Prof Michel Chossudovsky with the title War and Natural Gas: The Israeli Invasion and Gaza’s Offshore Gas Fields - see: War and Natural Gas: The Israeli Invasion and Gaza's Offshore Gas Fields - Global Research. Professor Chossudovsky has recently updated the article since the Hamas attack on 7th October. Here are two brief quotes from it:

It should also be understood that Netanyahu’s October 7, 2023 illegal declaration of war against Gaza is a continuation of its 2008-2009 invasion of Gaza under “Operation Cast Lead.” The underlying objective is the outright military occupation of Gaza by Israel’s IDF forces and the expulsion of Palestinians from their homeland.

Gaza and Energy Geopolitics

The military occupation of Gaza is intent upon transferring the sovereignty of the gas fields to Israel in violation of international law.

What can we expect in the wake of the invasion?

What is the intent of Israel with regard to Palestine’s Natural Gas reserves?

A new territorial arrangement, with the stationing of Israeli and/or “peacekeeping” troops?

The militarization of the entire Gaza coastline, which is strategic for Israel?

The outright confiscation of Palestinian gas fields and the unilateral declaration of Israeli sovereignty over Gaza’s maritime areas?

If this were to occur, the Gaza gas fields would be integrated into Israel’s offshore installations, which are contiguous to those of the Gaza Strip
 
Brilliant, funny, and profoundly sad. I mean, it's so insane that he has to revert to excuisite sarcasm just to make the most blatantly obvious of points. And even that isn't enough to get through to those programmed zombies.
And that Daily Wire guy at the end :barf:
That's exactly what I was strugling to express here, good job luc.
 
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