Jeff Rense EXPOSED!!

[Cyre2067]

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Damn, im glad i stumbled onto SOTT before i ever heard of Rense or Jones.

OPM... yeesh....

 

[Laura]

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As I mentioned somewhere above, it sure looks like the whole Alternative News and 911 Truth movement is being subjected to the Ponerization process, so perhaps now would be a good time to take a look at how that process develops:

We shall give the name "ponerogenic association" to any group of people characterized by ponerogenic processes of above-average social intensity, wherein the carriers of various pathological factors function as inspirers, spellbinders, and leaders, and where a proper pathological social structure generates.

Smaller, less permanent associations may be called "groups" or "unions".

Such an association gives birth to evil which hurts other people as well as its own members. We could list various names ascribed to such organizations by linguistic tradition: gangs, criminal mobs, mafias, cliques, and coteries, which cunningly avoid collision with the law while seeking to gain their own advantage. Such unions frequently aspire to political power in order to impose their expedient legislation upon societies in the name of a suitably prepared ideology, deriving advantages in the form of disproportionate prosperity and the satisfaction of their craving for power.

A description and classification of such associations with a view of their numbers, goals, officially promulgated ideologies, and internal organizations would of course be scientifically valuable. Such a description, effected by a perceptive observer, could help a ponerologist determine some of the properties of such unions, which cannot be determined by means of natural conceptual language.

A description of this kind, however, ought not to cloak the more factual phenomena and psychological dependencies operating within these unions. Failure to heed this warning can easily cause such a sociological description to indicate properties which are of secondary importance, or even made "for show" to impress the uninitiated, thereby overshadowing the actual phenomena which decide the quality, role, and fate of the union. Particularly if such a description is colorful literature, it can furnish merely illusory or ersatz knowledge, thus rendering a naturalistic perception and causative comprehension of phenomena more difficult.

One phenomenon all ponerogenic groups and associations have in common is the fact that their members lose (or have already lost) the capacity to perceive pathological individuals as such, interpreting their behavior in a fascinated, heroic, or melodramatic ways. The opinions, ideas, and judgments of people carrying various psychological deficits are endowed with an importance at least equal to that of outstanding individuals among normal people.

The atrophy of natural critical faculties with respect to pathological individuals becomes an opening to their activities, and, at the same time, a criterion for recognizing the association in concern as ponerogenic. Let us call this the first criterion of ponerogenesis.

Another phenomenon all ponerogenic associations have in common is their statistically high concentration of individuals with various psychological anomalies. Their qualitative composition is crucially important in the formation of the entire union's character, activities, development, or extinction.

Groups dominated by various kinds of characteropathic individuals will develop relatively primitive activities, proving rather easy for a society of normal people to break. However, things are quite different when such unions are inspired by psychopathic individuals. [...]

Two basic types of the above-mentioned unions should be differentiated: Primary ponerogenic and secondary ponerogenic. Let us describe as primarily ponerogenic a union whose abnormal members were active from the very beginning, playing the role of crystallizing catalysts as early as the process of creation of the group occurred. We shall call secondarily ponerogenic a union which was founded in the name of some idea with an independent social meaning, generally comprehensible within the categories of the natural world view, but which later succumbed to a certain moral degeneration. This in turn opened the door to infection and activation of the pathological factors within, and later to a ponerization of the group as a whole, or often of its fraction.

From the very outset, a primarily ponerogenic union is a foreign body within the organism of society, its character colliding with the moral values held or respected by the majority. The activities of such groups provoke opposition and disgust and are considered immoral; as a rule, therefore, such groups do not spread large, nor do they metastasize into numerous unions; they finally lose their battle with society.

This is why such groups USE other groups to achieve their goals. They infiltrate, find weak individuals to target, begin the process of moral degeneration, etc. That is to say, just because a group operates under the banner of "communism" or "socialism" or "democracy" or "conservatism" or "republicanism", doesn't mean that, in practice, their functions are anything close to the original ideology. As we can see in the present day, the republican party (and the democrats as well, they are just pretending to be different) have been taken over by what amounts to Nazis. These Nazis use the ideology of the political parties to motivate large masses of people who still believe that the rulership of the party is aligned with the original ideology.

The same is being done with alternative news and the 911 truth movement. It is being infiltrated and turned around because it is way too dangerous to the Nazis that have taken over the U.S. political scene under the guise of being republicans or democrats or neo-conservatives, or whatever names they have created to bamboozle the public.

In order to have a chance to develop into a large ponerogenic association, however, it suffices that some human organization, characterized by social or political goals and an ideology with some creative value, be accepted by a larger number of normal people before it succumbs to a process of ponerogenic malignancy. The primary tradition and ideological values of such a society may then, for a long time, protect a union which has succumbed to the ponerization process from the awareness of society, especially its less critical components.

When the ponerogenic process touches such a human organization, which originally emerged and acted in the name of political or social goals, and whose causes were conditioned in history and the social situation, the original group's primary values will nourish and protect such a union, in spite of the fact that those primary values succumb to characteristic degeneration, the practical function becoming completely different from the primary one, because the names and symbols are retained.

This is where the weaknesses of individual and social "common sense" are revealed.

That is why Sartre and Judy Andreas and others decrying the "name calling" in the 911 Truth Movement are either agents themselves or woefully naive and will never survive the nazification/ponerization of the movement. The so-called "commonsense" that they subscribe to is NO DEFENSE against psychological deviants! But such "commonsensical" sayings and motifs will be brought up and flung around with great abandon by agents seeking to put the more critical members of the public back to sleep.

Ponerogenic unions of the primary variety are mainly of interest to criminology; our main concern will be associations that succumb to a secondary process of poneric malignancy. First, however, let us sketch a few properties of such associations which have already surrendered to this process.

Within each ponerogenic union, a psychological structure is created which can be considered a counterpart or caricature of the normal structure of society or a normal societal organization. In a normal social organization, individuals with various psychological strengths and weaknesses complement each other's talents and characteristics. This structure is subjected to diachronic modification with regard to changes in the character of the association as whole. The same is true of a ponerogenic union. Individuals with various psychological aberrations also complement each other's talents and characteristics.

The earlier phase of a ponerogenic union's activity is usually dominated by characteropathic, particularly paranoid, individuals, who often play an inspirational or spellbinding role in the ponerization process. Recall here the power of the paranoid characteropath lies in the fact that they easily enslave less critical minds, e.g. people with other kinds of psychological deficiencies, or who have been victims of individuals with character disorders, and, in particular, a large segment of young people.

At this point in time, the union still exhibits certain romantic features and is not yet characterized by excessively brutal behavior. Soon, however, the more normal members are pushed into fringe functions and are excluded from organizational secrets; some of them thereupon leave such a union.

An example would be a paranoid character who believes himself to be a Robin Hood type character with a "mission" to "rob from the rich and give to the poor." This can easily transform to "rob from anyone to gain for the self" under the cover of "social injustice against us makes it right."

Individuals with inherited deviations then progressively take over the inspirational and leadership positions. The role of essential psychopaths gradually grows, although they like to remain ostensibly in the shadows (e.g. directing small groups), setting the pace as an

 

[Mr. Premise]

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This helps explain the C's remark that Luke was one of the "Greek enforcers" in early Christianity.

The Roman Empire, including its legal system and paucity of psychological concepts, similarly contaminated the primary homogeneous idea of Christianity. Christianity had to adapt to coexistence with a social system wherein "dura lex sed lex" , rather than an understanding of human beings, decided a person's fate; this then led to the corruption of attempting to reach the goals of the "Kingdom of God" by means of Roman imperialistic methods.

...The example of the Roman legal system vis a vis early Christianity mentioned above, is a case in point. The Roman imperial and legal civilization was overly attached to matter and law, and created a legal system that was too rigid to accommodate any real aspects of psychological and spiritual life. This "earthy" foreign element infiltrated Christianity resulting in the Catholic church adopting Imperial strategies to enforce its system on others by violence.

 

[Laura]

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Since the discussion will never resolve itself when people from entirely different realities try to communicate, we made the decision to terminate it so as to give ourselve more time for creative activity. Dimitris Yannopoulos of Lambrakis Press has persisted in trying to post his disinfo on our forum even after writing to us and bidding us farewell. Everytime we block one IP, he uses another. What is interesting is the ones he uses:

217.28.152.148 Hospital in Poland
193.188.73.129 Government offices in Lebanon or Jordan
193.188.73. Greece
193.218.90.23 Greece
84.254. Greece
82.114.69. Kosovo

The only people we know of who can do that kind of stuff, that have that kind of list of proxies available are either serious hackers or intell agents.

I guess we know the answer to that one.

The question then becomes: why is it so important to these people to preserve the sanctity of Jeff Rense?

I guess they've invested a lot of money in him...

Added later: Thought I ought to include Dimitris parting shot:

This is the present danger to the 911 Truth Movement and Alternative Media. Such claims as those made by Sartre, Judy Andreas, Dimitris, etc, that weeding out the cointelpro factors amounts to "infighting" and "backstabbing" and "petty differences" and so on, amount to nothing more that simplistic and doctrinaire concepts that do not take into account the complexity of human nature and most especially the existence of deviant psychopathologies... What we can know is that taking their simplistic and doctrinaire paramoralisms as truth is setting a dangerous example.

I wouldn't bother to post a single word on this forum if my 'simplistic and doctrinaire paramoralisms' didn't take into account 'the existence of deviant psychopathologies' already taking a heavy toll on its existing membership. But in my 'paramoralistic' fervour, I saw it as my duty to help what remained to be rescued in this deviant vortex. Obviously, there wasn't much left after 14 years and a 'small fortune spent on medical bills to deal with the stress'.

Time to give up and wish you all, a Happy (orthodox) Easter!

 

[efields]

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It's truely spooky. Orwelian barely covers it. I see it but its hard to believe that so much is SPIN? The Whole world seems just Spin? Yikes alive!

On one hand it, makes me weak in my knees. On the other the anger swells inside me. I do of course see the problem. When I saw a Beamship ZigZagging through the sky from my Beachside home several years ago and watched 2 'conveyances' of some sort of Tech cover thousands of miles in seconds and my hair was standing up on end and my heart pounding so hard I could hear it...

Then to recount the experience to , first my Family, who didn't believe me, then to Friends who likewise laughed it off, well it broke, and daily, breaks my heart... And so here we stand at the tail end of that experience, as a supossedly Counter Coulture News Source - just a puppet for the power base, that controls the atmosphere with a precision that I feel, has the feel, of Off World control. Perhaps, They pull the strings, from on high and this truly is a large sample or Petri dish that 'they' run thier experiments with impunity, as no one thinks they are here (save us), we are between a rock and a hard place. The probem is that They run the show with or without our help. They just allow our intervention to keep the major damage 'in check'. But really, they don't need our help or permission, as they seem able to control our memories and more or less 'wind us up' any way they choose. Unless of course, on the off chance, one us awakens, for some unexplainable, to them, reason. Then its, Usually easier, to let thier Human handlers run damage control, rather then Them having to completly erase us. It just serves them better with the least disruption possible, so we stay asleep, deep asleep.

The rescources used to keep this all in check well it just boggles the mind. Sometimes I wish for the simple times BEFORE I knew all this was ocurring. whats that about, Ignorance is Bliss? It would be easier on one hand to be asleep with the collective and have an artificially controlled life. Just care about the next 'Robb Report' and my next Mercedes, and what color tie to wear. But once you see the light, there is no easy way back. I for one who spent a lifetime in pursuit of Truth will always pick Truth, no matter how it hurts.

Whats shocking, is how many will not care, and not respond, to anything, that will take them away from thier 'Walter Middy' existence. So hypnotized! are they brain dead? To see my own Family (and on a planetary scale Humanity), not make the cut, is the hardest bit of business I live with. I've resigned to let them be. And let them be happy in thier ignorance. Thier false Peace seems almost a gift at times.. so simple it is to just Be Happy etc...Well good for them we are here. Maybe there is One in every family who hears a Different Drum, thank God. Peace be with you, and us all.

 

[Guest]

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I guess they've invested a lot of money in him...

I always got an uncomfortable feeling from this person. Initially, I thought he just had a personal agenda. The feeling increased when he became persistent in insisting on the importance Cryptocratic variables. When the Rense scratch occured it felt like it went way beyond his own personality.

During Easter week here the churches are full of dead man on a stick worshippers, and the church is highly ritualized here, insense, an ancient liturgy in practically a different language than people speak on the street, icons staring at you, a lot of glitter and fanfare and no substance. And it strikes me as interesting that that the pervasive atmosphere with all these people participating in these rituals every night is similar to what I felt coming from this person.

The agenda of CoIntelPro is the same agenda as the official Christian religion: control, and that is an energy with a distinct and discomforting feel. Especially when the concepts of sacrifice and unquestioning devotion are involved.

What matters here, however, is that Ponerization for once is not allowed to proceed unaddressed or without a precedence in prior knowledge. Ponerization is an obvious transition state of an ideal from truth affirming self-organization to Pathocratic entropy. And it is also an opportunity, because until it completes its intended purpose the poneric transition is still a transition, and hence an unstable state, with the potential for greater self-organization if enough energy and the right kind of energy is adequately pumped into the system during its unstable period.

Usually ponerization occurs so smoothly that it is practically imperceptable to normal people. It goes smoothly when it is allowed to do so and when it is left unobserved and unaddressed. This smoothness has generated the illusion that ponerization is a powerful process. The thing is, there was really never any organized and coherent interference with the process in past historic examples to my knowledge, so we really don't know how powerful the process really is. It has never been consistently challenged until it was too late.

Well, now it is being challenged, and in the specified domain where information is the means to power and not physical violence (at least not overtly). So it is a challenge to confront ponerization, and to learn to be able to confront it effectively in this domain of information exchange, so that it can be correspondingly confronted in the world beyond the Internet.

Effectively confronting ponerization is one of the purposes of networking IMO. Here we are watching that confrontation, during its transition period when it is most vulnerable (although very well attempting to conceal the fact), in action.

 

[j0da]

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Laura, only small info regarding proxies. There is no need to be an agent or a hacker to use different proxies. There are lists of working proxies updated everyday/every couple hours on the web and simple programs which scan those servers if they are still valid. Then those programs spit out a list of working proxies which can be pasted directly to something like proxomitron working together with a browser - what enables one even to switch proxy every time one reloads web-page. Even kids can do it.

Of course, that doesn't exclude the possibility of Dimitris' 'connections'...

 

[Anders]

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Well, now it is being challenged, and in the specified domain where information is the means to power and not physical violence (at least not overtly). So it is a challenge to confront ponerization, and to learn to be able to confront it effectively in this domain of information exchange, so that it can be correspondingly confronted in the world beyond the Internet.

Effectively confronting ponerization is one of the purposes of networking IMO. Here we are watching that confrontation, during its transition period when it is most vulnerable (although very well attempting to conceal the fact), in action.

I would just like to add, that I have realised how big a task it is to put up a public forum like this one and how much responsibility goes with that. There has been no room for the lies, smears and paramoralism to stand unanswered. This requires a tremendous amount of dedication, but also knowledge on the subject. The Forum and the people behind the forum has shown how to put that Knowledge into action for the benefit of all willing to learn. I am not aware of anything like it anywhere. Thanks.
Anders

 

[efields]

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Laura wrote:

"So, are they "useful idiots" or conscious agents?

We don't know. What we can know is that taking their simplistic and doctrinaire paramoralisms as truth is setting a dangerous example."



I would prefer to think he's unaware. But then probably near 100% of the 'media' are unware of the fact they are all useful idiots. As I scan the TV and Print organs were are the uncontrolled? Are any? save a few outlets such as this forum? You are very very Brave to go against the machine in such a conspicuous fashion. I both applaud and tremble for you. I remember my own run in with the House Organ, I had a Hair Salon in California, Eugene Champs, we became a distibution point for the Meier and other New Age material and recieved a LA Times article were I spouted off about ET, in the 80's at one point 4 agents were in the store together, they were easy to spot as they all looked like linebackers compared to normal people. These guys were big, except one, a crusty middle aged women who said she was a Teacher. They all arived with minutes of each other and were scopeing the whole place out. The women got her hair cut with me. I started getting on my Soap Box telling her about the material I had. Well I loaned her my Video tapes of Meier's Beamship movies and when she took the Tapes she stared into my eyes, it was the coldest stare, I felt a chill, she told me I might not get them back. At the time I just took it for granted that Sure I'll get them back. It wasn't till they all left that I relaized I would never see them again. After that encounter Life got alot harder professionally and personally and I know it sounds paranoid but my wife and I knew we were under some sort of bubble, as if being discussed and monitored. 3 yrs later we left California and came back East to deal with my Fathers passing. No doubt we are still checked to make sure we are under thier radar...

It was not a comfortable moment when we were dealing with that enforecement episode. It took a toll on us as it seemed, till then, we were on Easy street. After, It seemed a nightmare, that no one else could see. Im glad to be out from under the looking glass, somewhat. I wish you all safety and peace as you are one of the Bright Beacons they will never give up, until they feel, they have marginalized you enough, that they have 'done their job', that you no longer pose a significant threat to the Staus Quo.

Best to you, and us all

 

[Godot]

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"Pamela Icke is the wife of one of the most popular regular guests on News
for the Soul -- David Icke -- and she too has quite the story to tell. And
find out about enlightened relationship from someone who is in one... Don't
miss this raveling hour of enlightening talk radio ..."

As it happens, David Icke was recently assimilated by abovetopsecret.com. Since we now have hard evidence that abovetopsecret.com is hooked up with Wayne Jaeschke and that they claim Morrison and Foerster as their legal reps, and Jaeschke has been implicated as participating in the creation of the "Project Serpo" hoax,
this connection between Judy Andreas and the Icke people is highly suggestive.

Eeyew What a messy and smelly can of worms this all is!
Without in any way defending David Icke's daft ideas or the person himself, my impression is that he is being dragged into all this for some indefinable reason.
I've only flicked onto ATS a couple of times to check it out once -never heard of it before the recent articles.On ATS I noticed that David Icke was given his own forum where you can discuss his ideas with the man himself. Trouble is he's never posted.
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread199883/pg1
and may not even be aware of what's happening .LOL that may not be such a new thing!
Last night when I looked in there was a link to a site with davidicke included that lead to some new agey health product with no apparent connection to the man himself, but it's not there tonight.
Is there really a connection between Judy Andreas and the Icke people or is that part of a guilt by association campaign?
It seems to me that she is throwing John (Kaminsky) and Cindy Sheehan together with Rense as collaborators in the satisfied customer quote.It looks like the buyer of the book is saying all these people have foreworded it and Icke's wife has an article in it so they're all together in "something".
And is there really, still, a connection between Icke and Rense, apart from the fact that Icke sometimes uses Rense links.I only saw one link in Ickes Links , it may be , like the rest of the site being rebuilt, but it doesn't mention Rense (only one link in fact)

Funnily Icke actually put a link to one of the SOTT podcasts on his site recently. It may be that cointelpro are gunning for you both as well as John K, or trying to draw false coonections so that crediblity is lost.? So that you make false allegations.
You have my sympathies in trying to untangle this spider's web-been through it myself Sheeeesh!!!!

 

[Laura]

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It seems to me that she is throwing John (Kaminsky) and Cindy Sheehan together with Rense as collaborators in the satisfied customer quote.It looks like the buyer of the book is saying all these people have foreworded it and Icke's wife has an article in it so they're all together in "something".

Good observations, Godot. At present, it's hard to know anything for sure. I know things that are factual that I have been told in confidence and I've hinted at some of them above without revealing the sources. Other things I've said outright.

 

[Mark]

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Laura, only small info regarding proxies. There is no need to be an agent or a hacker to use different proxies.

That depends on how a person defines "hacker." In the broad sense he IS a hacker and not just of computer technology.

Him using assorted IP addresses points out that he has some level of knowledge of using the Internet that the vast majority of people do not have. It also points out that he's willing to use someone else's resources without their permission and to do that requires a certain type of mindset; and that he's forceful in a manner where is willing to inflict himself on people where he's worn out his welcome, which goes hand in hand with being willing to abuse someone else's resources -- same thing basically. So Dimitri made himself known at several levels. He is a manipulator with an agenda. Of course he could start his own forum and spew there but no, he has some degree of the messiah complex and doesn't remotely understand the meaning of free will. With the alleged 14 years of reading even some of the most important understandings fail to become part of who he is, so that too says plenty about Dimitri.

 

[Fifth Way]

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Since "hacking" came up...

Looking at the possibilities of a potential high-tech angle to ponerology:

I notice that during the recent weeks and being involved with this forum and others like this (on this web-site) the "topic-subscriptions" stops working from time to time. Meaning; even though I am subscribed to i.e. this topic, notifications just stop. Sometimes I wonder why I do not get any notification in a few days and so I go on the forum to check only to find dozen new posts!?

Is that happening to others as well? Is it a website problem? Or is somebody disrupting the process of this work by the means of hacking? If yes, could that be traced?

 

[Lucy]

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From: http://www.enlighteneddating.com/softbi ... .php?id=21
"Pamela Icke is the wife of one of the most popular regular guests on News
for the Soul -- David Icke -- and she too has quite the story to tell. And
find out about enlightened relationship from someone who is in one... Don't
miss this raveling hour of enlightening talk radio ...".

I tried to listen to this "hour of enlightening talk radio" and couldn't quite manage to finish out the whole hour...Pamela rambled a lot and didn't seem to have anything very interesting to say...basically it was boring. In my opinion it certainly wasn't an inspiring story of an enlightened relationship.
I did listen long enough to find out that:
*Pamela is an Air Force brat and moved from base to base as a child.
*She was born on January 3.
*After a traumatic event she "lost Pamela" (she likes to talk about herself in the third person) for a few years.
*It seems "Pamela came back" (her wording) when she "found the truth" through the Jehovah's Witnesses. She didn't make it plain when or if she figured out the JW's don't have "the truth." This was back in the 80's, and, although she didn't want to "do that whole Kingdom Hall thing, she did "hold that truth to her." It was confusing.
*Before she met David she had already decided her next 'love' would be British; would have an English accent.
*When she first met David she 'considered' whether or not she was attracted to him and the answer was, "Naah!" It was sometime later that "their energies became entertwined." I didn't understand just how this happened. (But then I didn't listen to the whole interview.)

As it happens, David Icke was recently assimilated by abovetopsecret.com. Since we now have hard evidence that abovetopsecret.com is hooked up with Wayne Jaeschke and that they claim Morrison and Foerster as their legal reps, and Jaeschke has been implicated as participating in the creation of the "Project Serpo" hoax, this connection between Judy Andreas and the Icke people is highly suggestive.

I seem to recall that Rense and Icke were good buddies at one point and then either drifted apart or had a falling out. Well, maybe that was just for public consumption. This association of Pamela Icke with the gang suggests otherwise.

It seems to me that she is throwing John (Kaminsky) and Cindy Sheehan together with Rense as collaborators in the satisfied customer quote.It looks like the buyer of the book is saying all these people have foreworded it and Icke's wife has an article in it so they're all together in "something".

Good observations, Godot. At present, it's hard to know anything for sure. I know things that are factual that I have been told in confidence and I've hinted at some of them above without revealing the sources. Other things I've said outright.

At a David Icke seminar in 2003 (not long after his ayahuasca experience) I briefly met Pamela in person (just a quick hello thing), and spent several hours observing her durng the daylong seminar. She was wearing a fringed cowgirl outfit and was impossible to ignore. I'd noticed her bopping around, and remember being surprised when I realized she was David's wife; I guess I was expecting a more serious looking type of person. While David had little to no personal interaction with the guests (he appeared tired), Pamela was very energetic, running around a lot and personally talking to people during the breaks. I can see why she has been described as "vivacious."

Pamela was the person one had to 'go through' to have access to David to get a book signed. She stood at a door and decided who was allowed to go through it (and how long they were allowed to talk to him), like the doorman at an exclusive club. Only one person in my group bothered to get a book signed when it became obvious the situation was difficult.

During the seminar she sat in the middle of the front row and gave David signals of some sort. I couldn't see what they were, but I could see him acknowledging them. Not necessarily unusual, I suppose. However, twice he actually stopped talking and just gazed at her in silence. Both times when he 'came back' he made a joke about being captivated by his "lovely wife" and she responded with a girlish giggle.

BTW- during a break I was sitting in the lobby and heard a man go up to the reception/sign-in desk and present his ticket, identifying himself as an associate of Alex Jones. He said that Alex woudn't be able to make it after all, but that he was there to represent him. This didn't particularly surprise me as I'd heard Alex do a long phone interview over the radio with David and they seemed to know one another, and this seminar was only a few hours driving distance of Alex's base in Austin, Texas.

Just a few of my personal Pamela Icke observations (and opinions)
....for what they're worth. :)

 

[Anders]

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I notice that during the recent weeks and being involved with this forum and others like this (on this web-site) the "topic-subscriptions" stops working from time to time. Meaning; even though I am subscribed to i.e. this topic, notifications just stop. Sometimes I wonder why I do not get any notification in a few days and so I go on the forum to check only to find dozen new posts!?

Is that happening to others as well?

It has happened to me too, mainly with casschat but occasionally with the SOTT Forum as well.