Jeffrey Epstein arrested: Israeli-American pedo ring to be exposed?

More thoughts and to clarify. This doesn't mean certain people would be protected/given a pass indefinitely. It could be a matter of letting things develop over time to allow for the best outcome. Sometimes the best method for success is not to push aggressively ahead on a straight line where many difficulties result but to follow a more zig zag like pattern over time allowing for a more easy success and avoiding conflict. There must be an I Ching hexagram in there somewhere :-).

All speculation of course.
I don't think Trump is capable of that level of planning—of seeing things that way (although I kind of like the idea, not really that much; the matter is delicate and needs a more practical approach, or else many could get away with it). I'm more inclined to believe he's just clumsily trying to contain all of this as much as possible because, in his view, he needs to maintain influence on his side to carry out his agenda, which doesn't prevent him from falling further and further into disrepute. He's helping to cover up for pedophiles! There's only one way the public will interpret that.

Just to give an example, he might unleash this whole affair when his term is about to end, if he even makes it that far and if he dares to confront the threats hanging over him.
 
The picture forming I think is that the files is more than just a collection of kompromat, it is a window into how psychopaths bond together, they are sickos and are thrilled by the power, torture and control of the most vulnerable and innocent. The limited hangout being sold to the public that don’t want face reality is that it’s just honey traps and elaborate spy games. I heard Joe Rogan comment “hand jobs by 14 year olds”. Really Joe, how naive are you.
 
Although is possible that underage prostitution was used to blackmail people I don't believe that this was the case.

The evidence suggests it WAS the case, regardless of what you believe.

Most likely Epstein was simply a fixer and facilitator. By providing a secure place where famous people could indulge in activities that would have cause scrutiny elsewhere he created loyalty and a feeling of obligation.

And you don't think that abuse of children was included in "activities that would have cause scrutiny elsewhere"???

Straightforward blackmail would have quickly created bad name and potential retributions.

Here you seem to be missing a proper understanding of what the whole Epstein 'system' was designed to do. It was not designed to maliciously 'trap' people and in that way gather blackmailable information and then use it. It was designed to first gain the confidence of many 'important' people, to the point where they would see Epstein as a close friend and divulge personal information to him, including about their sexual proclivities. All this occurred in a very natural way as far as the 'important' people were concerned.

This information, collected and passed 'upwards' by Epstein was never intended to be used in the sense of immediately sending it to the media. The point was that when Epstein was 'outed' as a child abuse trafficker, every single one of the people he had courted over the years were now on notice that the information they had shared with him, the 'services' they had accepted from him, too now be exposed because Epstein had been exposed. IMO, by design.

And of course, they all wondered, and are still wondering, who has the information that Epstein had. The threat of that alone is enough to have a chilling effect on them all, and make sure that all of them toe the line. There is, and never was, any need to 'expose' any of them, with the exception of Prince Andrew, who was used to set an example of what could happen, and also to trash the image of the British royal family.

The only person that we know that had sex with a underage girl was prince Andrew. This doesn't doesn't indicate that similar things were the norm.

It almost certainly does. With him used to set an example to the others.

To claim that Giuffrey was trafficked and rapped is an overkill. She was almost 18, payed $15000, slept with a very famous person and she was very happy to do so. She was sending pictures to her mother and bragging about it. I wish I had gotten paid $15,000 when I was 17 to have sex with a famous 45yo woman and to travel to an exotic island. Would have done it even without money... I feel sorry for Giuffrey because of her difficult upbringing and family the same way I feel sorry for every other person in her position. I don't feel sorry for her for having sex with a famous 45yo in an exotic island while getting payed $15000.

Again with this "legal age" bullshit. You talk about children as if they are just sacks of meat. CLEARLY, the most important point is not the physical age of a child/teenager but their psychological and emotional development, and the extent to which they are able to understand and defend themselves against psychological and emotional manipulation by predatory adults. The vast majority of teenagers are NOT adults in that sense, and therefore wide open to being psychologically and emotionally manipulated and abused by predatory adults. And that's precisely what happened, eventually leading to them being physically abused also. But all you focus on is the physical abuse and assume that, if they "went along with it" and "bragged about it" then it must have been fine. Talk about clueless! :headbash:
 
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