People in the past were haunting and burning witches. We all know that witches do not exist. The same way today people are screaming about a non existent pedophilia ring which I'm very happy that they do because it brought to light the Epstein files.
@Mictotron how come you just signed up yesterday, at what appears as 3:27 PM, apparently skips the introduction and an introductory post in
Newbies & Important Notices to All Members and then makes five posts in this thread within 12 hours. What is the interest and intention?
Anyway, when you say "we all know that witches do not exist", you speak for yourself and those that agree with you on this point.
As a word, witch is defined in the dictionaries, like
Collins. For this occasion the
Oxford Learner's Dictionary will do:
1) a woman who is believed to have magic powers, especially to do evil things. In stories, she usually wears a black pointed hat and flies on a
broomstick.
- Many people believed her to be a witch.
- She sat astride the broomstick, just like a witch in a fairy tale.
- I have a pointy black hat for my Halloween witch costume.
In a materialist worldview, there are no magic powers. Good and evil have meanings according the what is useful, beneficial or alternatively harmful in a material sense. In such a perspective, there are no witches except as works of the imagination in fictional creations. This could then mean, that when "People in the past were haunting and burning witches.", they burned women who they thought were witches, but who couldn't be, simply because witches do not exist. (I am not arguing they were not falsely accused, but here we are talking about the possibility of such existing beyond fiction.) These two sentences. "People in the past ..." and "We all know ..." form an introduction to what follows: "The same way today people are screaming about a non existent pedophilia ring".
Next I will attempt to find out what that means:
"
ring" as a noun has several meanings, of which the following is the most appropriate:
6. countable noun [usually noun NOUN]
You can refer to an organized group of people who are involved in an illegal activity as a ring.
They exposed a smuggling ring trading in illegal elephants.
...an international spy ring.
When it comes to what Epstein and co were doing, they were organized and acted against the law, certainly a ring. Pedophilia rings exist:
On SOTT which has a repository of articles from many countries and their media, one finds so far
34 articles where pedophilia ring appears in the title, in
73 articles in the summary, and for
130 articles in the text. Moreover, if plural, rings, it is
six for title,
13 in the summary,
52 in the text. And then one can search for other words like
sex trafficking, some of which are of the child variety, where there are 151 articles sex trafficking in the title text.
Next are more words, and the issue of the child/adult boundary.
Pedophilia (mainly US) and in British English a variant spelling of
paedophilia which is about:
sexual desire felt by an adult for
children
Child; in this context:
A child is a human being who is not yet an
adult.
Adult
An adult is a mature, fully developed person. An adult has reached the age when they are legally responsible for their actions.
So much for the meaning of words, next some considerations regarding:
When is a person mature and fully developed?
Some angles:
1) Adult when a person can reproduce?
People can reproduce before they are fully grown, and it differs between girls and boys
For girls, there is the Wiki
Age and female fertility
In adolescence
The average age of a girl's first period (
menarche) is 12 to 13 with regional variations (12.5 years in the United States,6 12.72 in Canada,7 12.9 in the UK8).
In the first year post menarche, around 80% of cycles are
anovulatory. This declines to 50% in the third year, and to 10% by the sixth.9 Little is known about fertility in young adolescents, as early teenage pregnancies are uncommon in most societies.10
In adulthood
Female fertility generally peaks between the late teens and late twenties, after which it starts to decline.1 However, the probability of conception at a specific age varies between sources and is subject to debate.11
They have this image:
World Population Review has this illustration of the variations between countries.
For boys, the webpage Planned Parenthood introduced the key word:
when do boys start producing sperm
Guys start producing spermatozoa (or sperm, for short) at the onset of puberty. Puberty starts at different times for different people. Boys usually start puberty when they’re around 10 or 12 years old, though some start a little sooner and others a little later. There’s a cool word for when a guy first produces sperm — spermarche (SPERM-are-key).
Looking up spermarche, Grokpedia has an entry:
Spermarche refers to the onset of the first emission of spermatozoa in boys, typically through ejaculation but detectable in urine, marking the beginning of spermatogenesis and reproductive maturity during puberty.[1] It is considered the male counterpart to menarche, the first menstrual period in girls, as both represent key milestones in sexual maturation.[2]
In a 1986 study of Danish boys, the median age at spermarche was 13.4 years, with a typical range of 11.7 to 15.3 years, though individual variation is influenced by factors such as genetics, nutrition, and environmental conditions.[1] At the time of spermarche, boys generally had a median testicular volume of 11.5 ml (ranging from 4.7 to 19.6 ml) and were at a median pubic hair Tanner stage of 2.5 (ranging from 1 to 5).[1] This event often precedes the peak height velocity in puberty, which occurs at a median age of 13.8 years, and is associated with a median height of 160.4 cm and growth rate of 9.9 cm per year.[1]
Spermarche is an important but frequently overlooked indicator of pubertal progression in males, as the wide variation in secondary sex characteristics at the time of spermarche confirms the establishment of spermatogenesis more reliably than those characteristics alone.[1][3] Unlike menarche, which is a visible event, spermarche may go unnoticed initially and is often recalled retrospectively by individuals as a significant developmental milestone.[4] Studies have shown associations between the timing of spermarche and lifestyle factors, such as physical activity levels and sedentary behavior, with earlier onset linked to higher activity in some populations.[5] Secular trends indicate potential shifts in age at spermarche over time, possibly due to improving nutrition and health, though data vary by ethnicity and region; for example, in China, the median age declined from 13.38 years in 2000 to 13.00 years in 2019.[6][7]
There is more to being a child or an adult than sexual reproductive ability:
Adult when the brain is fully developed? The article from Verywellhealth has these points:
Key Takeaways
- The brain is usually fully developed and mature by age 30.
- Although the brain will approach its full size by early childhood, the physical structure and function will continue to be refined as nerve connections are expanded and strengthened.
- The rate of development can vary from person to person and may be hindered by things like an individual's genetics, early emotional trauma, malnutrition, and toxic exposure.
The Wiki for
Human brain development timeline
Cortical
white matter increases from childhood (~9 years) to adolescence (~14 years), most notably in the frontal and parietal cortices.23 Cortical
grey matter development peaks at ~12 years of age in the frontal and parietal cortices, and 14–16 years in the temporal lobes (with the superior temporal cortex being last to mature), peaking at about roughly the same age in both sexes according to reliable data. In terms of grey matter loss, the sensory and motor regions mature first, followed by other cortical regions.23 Though it is a controversial psychometric, adult IQ also begins to be tested around this age range, with the
Raven's Progressive Matrices test beginning at age 14 and the
Wechsler Adult Intelligence Scale test beginning at age 16, though scores between 14 and 16 on the Wechsler test have differences so small that they are considered unreliable. This may bring into question the effectiveness of brain development studies in treating and successfully rehabilitating criminal youth.24
In the 2010s and beyond, science has shown that the brain continues to develop until at least 30 years of age. 25
There seems then to be a difference between physical maturity as far as reproduction goes and the maturity of the brain, a difference of easily 15 years. In some countries, the laws try to navigate that space by setting the age of consent.
Adult when the law says so?
There is a Wiki for
age of consent by country that allows one to order the listing. I went to the column for Unrestricted/Female and made two screenshots, one showing the country with the higher age, the other that with the lower age ranges. The different values can then be compared with the average times for the onset of fertility in the countries, at least in the cases where such exist.
Other reflections:
There will also be differences between the average onset of physical maturity for the population of a country and the age of consent for a particular country. By comparing the data from the lists with the age of consent with the data for the average onset of sexual maturity, one could list the trends.
One can also go back in time, to track the changes in the laws and compare them with the changes that the age of reproductive ability has undergone. To do that one would need the history of the laws and some data of how the onset of reproductive ability has changed, as in this
example:
Using the case of Norway, if the age of consent was 16 in 1980, then there would be a difference of about two to three years. If in 1860 the age of consent was 18, then there would be a similar difference. These estimates are for showing the principle, as I did not look up what the age of consent were for these years.
In most most countries, the state and the law would be interested in people forming stable associations and families, but there are variations. The following representation shows
Countries Where Prostitution is Legal:
There are the laws of consent, and there are also Laws Regarding Sexual Abuse
Laws against child sexual abuse vary by country based on the local definition of who a child is and what constitutes child sexual abuse. Most countries in the world employ some form of age of consent, with sexual contact with an underage person being criminally penalized. As the age of consent to sexual behaviour varies from country to country, so too do definitions of child sexual abuse.1 An adult's sexual intercourse with a minor below the legal age of consent may sometimes be referred to as statutory rape,2 3 based on the principle that any apparent consent by a minor could not be considered legal consent.
The United Nations Convention on the Rights of the Child (CRC) is an international treaty that legally obligates nations to protect children's rights. Articles 34 and 35 of the CRC require states to protect children from all forms of sexual exploitation and sexual abuse. This includes outlawing the coercion of a child to perform sexual activity, the prostitution of children, and the exploitation of children in creating pornography. States are also required to prevent the abduction, sale, or trafficking of children. 4 As of January 23, 2015, 196 countries have ratified the Convention, including every member of the United Nations except the United States. 5 6
Apart from civil laws, there are also religious laws. Some religions show a surprising amount of flexibility and textual interpretation to suit as needed. Governments can also be flexible, declare one thing and allow their agents to do as they see fit.
After all this data, there is room for the interested to find out where the law is stricter, where less, where people mature earlier where later. From my perspective, there is a lot of abuse of children, adolescents, young adults and adults that stinks, call it what you want.
From the sessions, there is:
It is the duty and responsibility of the parent and all adults to not take advantage of the young
Session 9 June 2009
A: Sexual feelings are natural. It is the duty and responsibility of the parent and all adults to not take advantage of the young in this respect.
It is about power not sex. - We see this in the human world in pedophile rings. It's not about sex at all, it's not about love pleasure at all. It's about power.
Session 29 December 2018
Q: (L) And I would say it has been from the beginning. We're talking about long, slow, patient manipulation. The C's said it years ago. It's to get everybody programmed to be the way they want them to be when they come to take over so that we'll all be "worthy" subjects. It's creepy.
(Joe) Is that in any way connected to homosexuality?
A: Yes
Q: (Joe) Is homosexuality a deliberate tinkering with humanity that is a reflection of a 4D STS mindset?
A: Yes
Q: (Niall) Is 4D STS gay?
A: No. It is about power not sex.
Q: (Pierre) We see this in the human world in pedophile rings. It's not about sex at all, it's not about love pleasure at all. It's about power.
(Joe) And domination.
A: There is a small percentage of "normal" homosexuality.
Q: (L) So it is a normal variation like other variations in different human traits, most often due to things like karma or a difference in the order of imprinting, delivery of hormones, or whatever.
Are these human hybrid monsters, any of the people that are involved in this whole pedophile business? - Yes.
Session 24 June 2023
Q: (L) Are there going to be these human hybrid monsters that DeSouza depicts?
A: No! There are already human hybrid "monsters", but they look human.
Q: (L) Are these human hybrid monsters, any of the people that are involved in this whole pedophile business?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Are they also involved in the gender transitioning of our young people?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) And you can tell from their pedophilic tendencies and their destruction of young people their monstrous nature?
A: Yes.
At this time, I think it is unavoidable that there will be "people" who support the abuse, and some who don't.
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