John DeSouza and "The Extra-Dimensionals"

[T.C.]

So I am in process of reading his book, when I read:
" By way of partial-full disclosure I must
reveal that I spent many years as a rabid Carpet Stain Monitor in the secret
National Security structure of the Western nations. "
I was asking myself it is partial or full (not probably) disclosure ?
As english is not my native language: I not familiar with this syntax (or is a typo in my copy of the book).

I’ve found that all the way through, the book is littered with strange word usage and unconventional punctuation usage. The book doesn’t really read like a book. It reads like he made a lot of notes on different subjects, possibly even using voice to txt software, and then just titled the notes as chapters, and then it was published without any editors looking at it for him. There are a lot of redundant words, repetitions, sections that should have been gathered together, sections where he has a simple concept that could have been conveyed in a couple of sentences that he’s fleshed out into full chapters.

It’s all a bit messy.

 

[Niall]

Are these efforts to drip "disclosure" about the alien phenomenon, and the allowance of certain individuals to publish and spread details about it from official sources, the PTB's attempt to anticipate the aforementioned thinning of the veil caused by the wave?

Yes, is it 'circumstances compelling them to reveal something of the reality of UFOs', or is it, as Joe suggested on NewsReal yesterday, that they are choosing to do so for more mundane, 3D reasons of power and control.

 

[Keit]

I reached the following point in the book, where DeSouza says:

The Persistent Consciousness Corollary—Since the basis of all reality is actually consciousness—not time, space and matter, then this truth shifts the priorities of all things. Things come into existence and remain in existence because we give them our energy in the form of attention, belief and our consciousness.

This is a switching of the chicken and the egg. We do not give them our energy because they exist. They exist because someone, somewhere has given them energy in the form of consciousness. Investment of physical energy into a system is a cause often mistaken for merely a symptom. Physical energy invested is a reflection of the high amount of human belief and human consciousness devoted into that particular system. We are spiritual creatures first and physical second.[...]

Therefore, if any spiritual or paranormal subject has persisted in human consciousness for decades, centuries or eons, that is the best evidence that it is real, that it truly exists and that its existence is incontrovertible. Otherwise, that subject would have just disappeared from human memory shortly after it was suggested. That is especially so in light of debunkery, secular cynicism and culturally conditioned responses.

The moment we understand this truth, the fruitless search for scientific minutiae becomes irrelevant. We know it exists because we believe it exists. Whether we are relating the tales of King Arthur or those of Bigfoot, these are real because they have persisted in human consciousness for centuries and even eons, regardless of what modern technical equipment does or doesn’t reveal on those topics.

Yes, is it 'circumstances compelling them to reveal something of the reality of UFOs', or is it, as Joe suggested on NewsReal yesterday, that they are choosing to do so for more mundane, 3D reasons of power and control.

It reminded me of what Niall said above and what Joe said in yesterday's show that whoever is behind the recent whistleblower revelations, etc., the intent may be to create a paradigm/perception shift.

And this reminded me of the following excerpts and made me wonder about additional potential reasons for the paradigm/perception shift.

A: Now, some more information about Flight 19. Do you remember a few years ago that a team of researchers claimed to have found the planes, then retracted?

Q: (L) Yes, I remember. {All agree.}

A: Did you find this to be curious?

Q: (S) Yes, because the planes that they found were never reported missing. (T) Yes. (L) Is that why it was so curious? (J) Why did they retract? (S) Where did the planes come from that they found?

A: Yes, if only you knew the details, and how three of the team have required massive psychiatric aid.

Q: (L) Well, tell us the details!

A: Patience, we are, but must do so slowly so you have some hope of grasping it.

Q: (T) Three of the recovery team needed psychiatric treatment?

A: What they found were five planes matching the description, and "arranged" in a perfect geometric pattern on the bottom of the ocean, but the serial numbers did not match.

Q: (L) Is the geometric pattern itself significant?

A: Now, first mystery: There were no other instances of five Avengers disappearing at once. Second: Two of the planes had strange glowing panels with unknown "hieroglyphics" where there should have been numbers. Third: When they tried to raise one of the planes, it vanished, then reappeared, then vanished again then reappeared while attached to the guide-wire, then finally slipped off and fell to the bottom. Fourth: In one of the planes, on the bottom, live human apparitions in WWII uniforms were temporarily seen by three exploratory divers and videotaped by a guide camera. Lastly: Three of the planes have since disappeared. All of this is, naturally, being kept secret!

Q: (S) I wonder where the planes came from. (L) That is the obvious question!

A: Parallel reality, you see, when something crosses into another reality, it accesses something called, for lack of a better term, the "thought plane", and as long as that reality is misunderstood, the window remains open, thus all perceptions of possibility may manifest concretely, though only temporarily, as thought plane material is constantly fluid.

Q: (L) Does this mean that this was a "Flight 19" of a parallel reality that went through a window into our reality?

A: Close.

Q: (L) Was this part of or connected to the loss of our "Flight 19?" Did we exchange realities here?

A: It is the thought patterns that effect the reality, when that window is opened, all thought can become physical reality, though only temporarily.

Q: (L) Does this mean that the divers' and searchers' thoughts about this became reality?

A: And all others.

Q: (T) All others involved in the search?

A: All others on the planet.

Q: (T) Even those that did not believe that the searchers were going to find them?

A: Yes. Researchers found what they expected to find, but when others heard the news, other things started to happen according to which thought patterns dominated.

Q: (L) So, in other words, if somebody believed that it was Flight 19, it appeared, and if somebody did not believe it was Flight 19, it disappeared?

A: Yes.

Why is it that the Loch Ness monster and other similar creatures that are said to exist - and which the Cs said exist - have never been seen and documented like other animals that live on this planet?

(Artemis) Didn't they say like they're out of phase with our reality or something?

A: Transdimensional.

Q: (Artemis) They're here but they're not here.

(L) Is it something about the creatures own frequency that causes it to blink in and out of our reality?

A: Yes

Q: (L) Is it living in kind of like a time warp or something like that?

A: Yes

Q: (Joe) Does it have to do with the belief of the observer as well?

A: Yes

Q: (L) Kind of like Flight 19, I guess.

It made me think about a shift to a reality where more people would think or accept the existence of "aliens", and this in turn would provide "aliens" with a more "solidified" existence here. But then Joe also said the following in the session thread where the topic of "invasion" was discussed:

That sounds like aliens being revealed as aliens, which I assumed was not going to happen. The central problem here is the idea that there will be a generalized awareness of "aliens" but no overt appearance of "aliens".

Was thinking about how to resolve this and one possible way would be for there to be an announcement of some kind of 'remote contact' with an "extra-terrestrial intelligent source" via SETI or similar. That, if presented as legit by govts. etc., would allow for the generalized awareness of the existence of "aliens" without any *actual* aliens. After that, I suppose more 'contact' could be established and govts. or WEF type people might get some really great ideas from this "contact" to solve lots of problems. Still sounds loopy, but hey! things are already pretty loopy!

Ok, so no overt appearance, but maybe still a very good reason to make sure that all the people on the planet will be aware of the existence of aliens, and that it will become an officially accepted paradigm. But for what exactly? The C's said:

A: Main prep should be psychological and spiritual. As to appearance, nothing like what you would expect. Most will be done via proxies as invaders do not fit earth's FRV. [Review of answer] Some dramatic displays of power and control are possible.

Q: (Joe) Who are the proxies most likely to be from our perspective?

A: Heads of government who are "plugged in" or replacements.

Q: (Joe) The dramatic displays of power and control that are possible, who would they come from? I mean, who would be giving these dramatic displays of power and control?

(L) Dramatic displays coming from UFOs?

A: Yes

Q: (Joe) They said most of it will be done by proxies, i.e. human beings, and there'll be dramatic displays of power and control.

(L) Yeah, but then we read the answer and then they threw that last part in afterwards. So, it was like an additional note on the topic. Well, people who've researched it know that they've turned off all the missiles at some place in Montana or somewhere years and years ago.

(Joe) Does that imply a generalized awareness of aliens among the human population at some point?

A: Yes

(Joe) But they said as well that it would be nothing like what you would expect. So, what we're expecting is like Hollywood: Independence Day, the mothership in the sky, that kind of thing. Probably it's not going to be like that. So, how would it manifest?

(L) Why would it not be like that?

A: Overt violation of free will thus generating sharp and inclusive opposition.

Who knows, maybe the "generalized awareness of aliens among the human population" would give the aliens the ability to perform those displays of power and control. Or other things that would require a "greater punch" of awareness and belief.

Don't know what kind of displays we are talking about, since we are not going to get invasion style Independence Day, and we need to consider that they already demonstated an ability to influence from afar when they disarmed nuclear missiles, for example. Maybe they already have all the necessary "power", don't know.

But the whole idea of making everyone on the planet aware does make me wonder "why". There's obviously a good reason. Maybe from the perspective of 3D controllers it is indeed about power and control, or making sure to appear in control if they know that things are coming that may interfer with that. And from the 4D STS perspective there could be additional or other reasons. Maybe something that would make their interaction with our reality more comfortable.

 

[Ina]

I have watched the interview and I noticed a very submissive attitude towards the 'guys that approve his books'. That together with his dubious 'please everyone' smile, killed any interest in his soft landing disclosure narrative.

 

[Neil]

But the whole idea of making everyone on the planet aware does make me wonder "why". There's obviously a good reason. Maybe from the perspective of 3D controllers it is indeed about power and control, or making sure to appear in control if they know that things are coming that may interfer with that. And from the 4D STS perspective there could be additional or other reasons. Maybe something that would make their interaction with our reality more comfortable.

I've been wondering about that as well. If 4D STS desired a less ephemeral presence in our reality it would be less taxing for them if people welcomed them or even asked for their assistance. The government could then position itself as the liaison between the wise and enlightened aliens and the people similar to the divine right of the kings of old. This process could be used to create an egregore, but a real one of 4D construction.

 

[heinrich]

Here he establishes his associations with Dr. Greer and Michael E. Salla. It's like they're all in bed together with the same agenda.

Then his claim of being a paranormal investigator three years ago.

thank you. so much to see...

 

[BHelmet]

“Former FBI”, “former CIA” and “former Navy Seal” have become almost a total cliche/meme at this point in US culture used to garner credibility and attention in various targeted demographics. These interviews strike me as another garden variety dog and pony show. Imminent alien disclosure and earth shaking revelation has been going on how long? Since the Art Bell days?

The beat goes on. Wake me up when the aliens get off their butts and finally get here. (I am being facetious of course)

 

[Michael B-C]

The government could then position itself as the liaison between the wise and enlightened aliens and the people similar to the divine right of the kings of old.

Very astute and on point sentence summary of what may be up ahead Neil.

or even asked for their assistance

Ah!...and the ever present hyper-dimensional need for permission!

Makes one again consider 'the programing is complete' and the manner in which the power system became the sacred intermediary between the 'alien' virus COVID and the people - a form of divine right authority exercised through 'the Science' and dogmatic, uncritical trust in the experts. We see from the general response of the populous that this land is well tilled and primed for mass obedience in the light of uniformly applied authority dictated from on high. All the absurdities, contradictions and outright lies that people gratefully swallowed makes accepting a line about alien super-heroes come to help us get out of this mess (thank you oh benevolent government) just a small extra step on the road.

Very helpful aliens will, for example, no doubt declare through approved government sources that yes Co2 abuse by humans is definitely destroying the planet and hey presto, climate change-deniers will be out gunned and declared as outcasts in the way anti-vaxers were. No more protests or public concerns about AI or trans-humanism etc to be allowed- if its good enough for alien tech-Gods, its good enough for the chosen race of special human elites and their Holy Great Reset flock - and if we learned anything from COVID it’s that so many people are secretly just dying to get down on bended knee and be allowed to worship the irrational once again. And as Keit said:

Who knows, maybe the "generalized awareness of aliens among the human population" would give the aliens the ability to perform those displays of power and control. Or other things that would require a "greater punch" of awareness and belief.

The perfect self-affirming feedback loop (think again how belief in the story of COVID as sold led inexorably to the sting in the tail; acceptance and worship of the corrupted and disastrously dangerous vaccine) but always presented from the perspective that our human bosses are still in charge of the rules. How long they can keep that masquerade up of course depends entirely on whatever the true manipulators from beyond the density veil intend and allow, for once they truly let the genie out of the bottle, there's no turning back...

Underneath it all they really must be getting really desperate for them to be edging ever closer to playing the final Joker left in the pack.

 

[SOTTREADER]

I've only watched his redacted interview and looked into a few of the cases he mentioned there. My general impression was that the information he presented did not pose a threat. Other than saying there was a hyperdimensional element to the UFO phenomenon he didn't say much else that I'd consider to be controversial. The thing that actually caught my attention was the story he told about that Miami shoot out where multiple FBI agents died and it was almost like the perps were possessed.

I'm also not sure if the current spurt of UFO information counts as an acceleration in disclosure or making more people aware of aliens. I think there was wider knowledge of UFOs in the 50s - 90s which was reinforced by all the abduction style movies e.g. from Spielberg. Whilst these were not of a hyperdimensional nature, I get the impression from all I've read that the awareness of "aliens" was more widespread then.

Assuming DeSouza does his own research, I wonder why he hasn't come across some of the more weirder works of people like John Keel or even come across the Ra material which isn't hard to find via search engines (most of the STS / STO stuff would be there). I think the stuff in this forum and Laura's works are a bit more difficult to find.

In short, I think there is a plethora of stuff that can easily be found if one had a thread to pull on and one thing would lead to the next e.g. hyperdimensional could then lead to more and more findings.

 

[T.C.]

Assuming DeSouza does his own research, I wonder why he hasn't come across some of the more weirder works of people like John Keel or even come across the Ra material which isn't hard to find via search engines (most of the STS / STO stuff would be there). I think the stuff in this forum and Laura's works are a bit more difficult to find.

He mentions Keel a couple of times in chapter 24 while talking about the UFO phenomenon being hyperdimensional or spiritualistic.

Judging by his exposition of how humans came about, what we're doing here, and what our relationship is to greater and lesser 'aliens', it reads like something straight out of non-critical channelling. I suspect he's read some channelled material.

 

[Wandering Star]

I just can't deal with this categorical statement he makes:


The shift will be ours as we release each other from the Mind-Trap of believing everything begins and ends with the physical. This entire, physical, known universe, all of time and space, was created by Creator-Source solely for humanity and for the Earth. Yet despite that, Extra-Dimensional life from Multi-Verses across the unknown have always and continue to use Earth as a gateway by which to transit into and out of our universe. Not only is the Earth the center of this universe (sort of) but we are the Universal Gateway by which all Extra-Dimensional life passes.
No one comes unto the souls except by us.

 

[SlipNet]

I'm a little ambivalent about De Souza at this point. Considering he's come from a pretty odd and ill-defined family, he's tentatively finding his way to understanding the mechanics of the phenomenon, but he has some flaws. He's not cognisant of the density idea for one. But his thinking is going along good lines, if he's been gifted Laura's High Strangeness book then he'll have a great jolt. The last few chapters talking about 4d STS, underground bases and the process of human/alien amalgamation were sobering to read. He's not there yet, but I think he's on the way.

Just to go full weird for a moment, it interests me that a false UFO invasion is still mooted in conspiracy circles. I've got to be honest I haven't paid the idea much attention, and how such a thing may be attempted intrigues me. As we've been invaded for aeons via abduction and programming I think the scenario is a bit moot in my book. This isn't "Independence Day", it's more like "Invasion of the Body Snatchers" for me. And, finally, I am very interested in how much knowledge is held by those at the apex of the 3d STS pyramid. That's unknowable at this point, and will probably remain so. I'll continue to watch and listen to De Souza, and I'll give the book a going over come pay day.

 

[T.C.]

I just can't deal with this categorical statement he makes:


The shift will be ours as we release each other from the Mind-Trap of believing everything begins and ends with the physical. This entire, physical, known universe, all of time and space, was created by Creator-Source solely for humanity and for the Earth. Yet despite that, Extra-Dimensional life from Multi-Verses across the unknown have always and continue to use Earth as a gateway by which to transit into and out of our universe. Not only is the Earth the center of this universe (sort of) but we are the Universal Gateway by which all Extra-Dimensional life passes.
No one comes unto the souls except by us.

As I was reading that chapter, I couldn’t help but think that his egocentric view of the universe is a result of his religious upbringing. And then, in that very chapter, he equates the scientific physical model of everything to organised religion, and ends the chapter with the above, biblical sounding sentence.

There’s so many questions that his ideas raise. For example:

He says that the reason the Extra-Dimensionals are here is because they have to use Earth as the portal from their dimension into our physical dimension. Well, why do they want to be here, in our physical dimension?

We might come up with any number of answers to this, but based on his cosmology, the aliens don’t have souls or a connection to God. Humans do, and physicality, with its time and space, was set up by God to protect us from the Extra-Dimensionals, so that our souls can evolve and we can go onto bigger and better things (what those are, he hasn’t said yet).

So again, what use is it for the EDs to come to our reality. He’s already said a couple of times that we are slaves. He then suggests that due to the EDs lacking the etheric thread that connects them to God, they want to ‘attach’ to humans via abductions and mutilations in order to fill a longing inside them (never mind that they cut the thread in the first place because they equate themselves with God) even though he has said previously that those things are basically a smoke screen to promote the ‘aliens are physical’ agenda.

Well, he also says that the EDs come through Earth and spread out into the physical universe from here, and that there are structures on the Moon and Mars that they built. Why did they go to the Moon and Mars when there’s no humans there? I thought we’re the reason they come?

Question after question, logical inconsistency after logical inconsistency.

The notion that we are the only intelligent life in our entire physical universe is one of the most absurd ideas humans ever came up with, IMO.

 

[mkrnhr]

Judging by his exposition of how humans came about, what we're doing here, and what our relationship is to greater and lesser 'aliens', it reads like something straight out of non-critical channelling. I suspect he's read some channelled material.

On couple of occasions, he says "It has been revealed to me blah blah". It can be interpreted in various ways but given his "christian" leanings, there is a slight possibility that what he describes is some sort of contact. Maybe a clue is in his "smoking gun" chapter where he presents a supposedly declassified document where someone describes the nature of the UFO phenomenon. I haven't found that document yet, but from a quick reading, I think attributing the information to an Alien contact is some projection on his part.
The whole thing about the book is that these information are arrived at from the perspective of FBI-informed investigative techniques. Sometimes it is, but sometimes it isn't. He emphasizes the necessity of relying on one's intuition (if one is "awakened") but at the same time in the end of the book he says that extra-dimensionals can wage a dream-war (manipulate thoughts and behaviors) as if it's something that only happen in the future.

Funny enough, he comes rather close to the notion of density in that same chapter (smoking gun) where he interprets the points of the memorandum. In it he writes "The place they come from and go back to is not the commonly known Astral Plane... It is the Lokas. Ancient Vedic philosophy recognizes the Lokas as numerous levels of parallel universes that exist on distinct levels at different vibrations so that these never intersect with each other under any circumstances."
Okay, so they are levels at different vibrations (could be interpreted as densities), which is different from parallel universes, but then he adds that these levels do no intersect under any circumstances... unless they are UFOs, hence they intersect?

The shift will be ours as we release each other from the Mind-Trap of believing everything begins and ends with the physical. This entire, physical, known universe, all of time and space, was created by Creator-Source solely for humanity and for the Earth. Yet despite that, Extra-Dimensional life from Multi-Verses across the unknown have always and continue to use Earth as a gateway by which to transit into and out of our universe. Not only is the Earth the center of this universe (sort of) but we are the Universal Gateway by which all Extra-Dimensional life passes.
No one comes unto the souls except by us.

Yes, this is one of those things that have been "revealed" to him according to his wordings. Instead of presenting things that are hypothetical as possibilities or working hypotheses, the tone of certainty is rather annoying, just like the self-congratulatory instances as well (the whole awakened stuff).

 

[Bluegazer]

Question after question, logical inconsistency after logical inconsistency.

Therein lies the germ of disinformation. The ontological contradictions in what he writes, lies wrapped in truths generating false knowledge is what makes the dark forces turn a blind eye to a supposed disclosure. Intentional on the part of these forces and perhaps unintentional on the part of DeSouza, but we note even by his investigative capacity, that his sacred cows are still mooing.